but their body language tells you what they were really thinking. here to discuss is chris your lick, lead instructor at the body language institute. what is this saying? >> this means you're in a sprint per's pose. you're on the front of the stage. >> before we talk about last night on debate stage, let's talk about tonight and the al smith dinner because there were some uncomfortable and awkward moments. what did you make of their body language? >> when they come into the room a lot of times they weren't facing each other, a lot of times giving each other their backs most of the time. they were buffeted by cardinal dolan a lot. they were able to kind of engage the room without having to deal with each other, but in an awkward sense they kind of danced around each other from a good part of the encounter. >> let's look at hillary clinton now as she was speaking. what do you think? >> well, with hillary when she is watching here, when trump is up there, there are moments that he says some stuff where he says some stuff which he will laugh, at times she puts her head up