and she said yes, you can do it. despite everybody saying no, it's over with. everybody said it was over with. when i was 20, 21 years old, had just gotten married, you know, put yourself in my wife's shoes. all these fans all across the world that have donnie osmond record burning parties -- >> and i remember girls having donnie osmond wife burning parties. like linda mccartney. >> if anybody could write a book, my wife could. but she never would. >> we talked about marie's life, but how important to you has it been to have the love of a steady wife of 30-odd years. >> 33 years. it was the only thing that kept me sane because, you know, i'm not saying this because -- i'm going to sound ego maniacal, but point to another teeny bopper star who didn't go through the drugs, the alcohol, the women, and things like that and i'd