altitude and exactly what they tell you not to do from almost day one in fly. >> you know, just as a passenger and not knowing much, i know you would answer this sensitively. in that three minutes, as they are going down at a very fast speed, would passengers -- you know, would they be knocked out in some way? were they aware that whole time? >> it would have been a very wild ride. i don't think they would have had any perception it was 10,000 per feet per minute but obvious something was very wrong with that aircraft. >> would have had the falling feeling. >> yes. >> nothing would have caused them to lose consciousness? >> not necessarily. >> an awful thing. nobody knows it like you. thank you so much for come. >> good to be here. >> a writing machine raises serious constitutional questions. is a law still a law if the president himself doesn't sign it? building our wiress network all across america. we're adding new cell sites...