that's all negotiable. you can't talk about this stuff on television. then why did you? i don't know, he's on crack. where's dr. drew when you need him. >> funny enough, we had a clip from dr. drew. i did interview dr. drew actually. he was quite interesting. >> there's no way to get that time back. >> i think a lot of these guys who are involved in treating addicts -- >> are they addicts themselves? what are his credentials? >> let's take a with quick listen to dr. drew. let's hear what he said to me. >> two separate conditions. there's the addiction, which gets triggered, which is the biological disorder of the brain. and then there are the underlying environmental and psychological issues that push somebody over into addiction in the first place. the issue of dealing with the so-called demons. if you have a bad enough addiction you need to see me, 100% probability you've had childhood trauma. so, we're really talking about childhood trauma. and that takes years to sort through. >> you're not taking that very seriously. are you? >> here are my notes. please. >> what do you think when you