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show, congress has gone down to the wire many times like this and averted a shutdown in most cases. what does a deal need to look like to keep the lights on in washington beyond friday? >> you're right. in most cases the doomsday scenario is averted, but you remember 1995, 1996 when we did have a government shutdown and that was that famous budget standoff between bill clinton and newt gingrich. it could happen, and nobody wants it to happen, though neither side is taking steps to avoid it from happening. if it happens, it means that virtually all the -- what we call the nonessential functions of government stop operating. >> and the one thing a lot of people have been asking us about is social security. those checks will still go out. but a lot of things won't happen. most people don't think about how tied in they are to the federal government until something like this happens. harold myerson is editor at large for the american prospect, op-ed columnist with "the washington post," also tends to disagree with pretty much anything stephen moore says. harold, look at this.

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