committed, nothing happened. she doesn't want to be involved. lindsey is a good person, she's praying for her. sounds like a payoff to me, fred, i don't know. >> avery, what's with the change of heart? >> no evidence of that. i see the chain reaction. i agree with the series of events. what's interesting is dawn holland, the employee who got fired for going public by betty ford center said we're going to go after lindsey, changes her mind and says she's going to bring a civil rights case, believe it or not, against betty ford because she went public. how she comes up with that theory, fredricka, is baffling to me. it makes absolutely no sense. >> it is never ending. >> you know, what i have to tell you. richard's theory is this is just a mean girl. i thought, looks maybe she's just really sick. but you know what, i'm starting to inch over to the other side, because it never ends. >> it is never ending. this is just unbelievable.