friends over the years. you know, being friends with wendy, you end up doing a lot of benefits. i'm sure you knee. you knee. she's always getting you to sing or show up somewhere for somebody. >> larry: in three words, you don't want to hear from wendy, by the way -- >> exactly. or -- or breaking news. sorry. it's usually when you're in there all made up and they go, sorry. have to cancel. >> larry: is that the -- it's hard to bump a guest? >> oh, it's it's worst. >> larry: we almost bump ud tonight. >> we almost did. exactly. yes. >> larry: is that hard? >> it was great having it happen to me so i know how it feels. >> i remember maybe 15 years or so ago, were you still in washington, d.c. i was doing a john waters film "serial mom" in baltimore. >> larry: funny movie. >> funny movie. i was in the car with makeup on and get a call from you. suzie -- >> larry: the book is "producer" author wendy walker. one of the reasons viewers