party doesn't like them, that in a sense it's going to affect them? >> well, i think the tea party movement is going to put pressure on republicans and on democrats. now at the same time, some of the things that the tea party movement is asking for are unachievable and i'm not sure it's right. it's not do-able to say we want to cut spending. we want to reduce the deficit. but we don't want to increase revenue. this algebraic equation will not work. >> larry: can't have it both ways. >> you can't have it every way. when i hear people say, well we're going to cut spending and moderators or interrogators such as you say, how are you going to do it? they say we'll freeze spending. we'll freeze spending doesn't tell you anything. they never do it. don't tell me you're going to freeze spending. tell me what you're going to cut. what service are you not going to provide to the american people that they are now expecting? when you look at the growth of government in the last 10 or 15