should he said and no, let them stay will they're a worthy adversary. she is always looking for the next fight. >> and another season. >> exactly. >> larry: when you read this, were you offered it right away? >> yeah. >> larry: you did not have to audition. >> no, no. >> larry: did you like her? >> i did. i loved it. one of the first things ryan murphy who also won an emy. he created the show with a couple other guys. it said sue sylvester may or may not have posed for pent house and may or may not be on horse estrogen. i said i'm in. i loved it. i knew it would be great. >> larry: did you know that it would, despite this long and what would call successful career as a character actress, that's what we would call it. you would have this blossom? >> i know. it's one of those things. there are so many great actors out there and that i know i'm breathing rare identified air. i found a character and a writer, ian brennan is the guy who basically writes everything i say. where we just work really well together.