that happened to be rufus hannah and told me i was ruining his route. i got them to leave and they started moving. as i got closer to my office an older gentleman named mr. harkins who is 90 years old like an old baptist minister had me come over there and sit by him. and during this time, i told him about the homeless guys i just removed from my property. he told me no no uncertain terms that jesuswouldn't likete me an i'd better cnge my ways and i better hire them immediately. >> wow! >> not knowing i was jewish. as they got closer, i offered both rufus and donny employment. asong as you're there at 10:00 tomorrow, you have a job. and to my surprise at 10:00 the next day -- >> there was rufus. >> rufus and donny was there. >> hey, rufus, you've been working for a long time. you were a carpenter, i believe. were you a construction worker. you went off into the army. you got injured in the army. you came back and things started to go wrong for you.