northwestern university. he taught with elena kagan and president obama at the university of chicago. thanks to all of you for coming n i want to pick your brain on what she's like, what she's all b josh, let me start with you. you worked with her in the clinton white house. what's she like? >> smart as a whip. fair. aggressive. and, you know, we worked closely together on tobacco and tobacco legislation. how to keep it out of the hands of kids and standing up against hate crimes. she is incredibly fair and at harvard where she was my dean, continued to show can you build consensus and do the right thing. >> you mean a liberal? >> no, i would say on a whole host of issues. >> professor stone, you were with her at the university of chicago. what impressed you? >> well, elena is smart. she is tough minded,