now, we are starting to get in and take a look at the books of american banks and try to figure out, how much exposure do american banks have. most people aren't too concerned about american banks being hurt. they focused on exxonmobil earnings. those were very, very good. jobless claims why not as bad as people had feared. 448,000 people filed for first-time jobless benefits. it is not a disaster. that's what people were looking for. we are going to have gdp later today, which is likely to show some growth again. >> is this for the quarter? >> this is fort mo the most rec quarter. stocks rise when investors think companies are going to make money. the question is, how many of us are still investors and how many have missed the big, long ride. there are people who swear to me that the dow has got to go to 14,000. there are others who swear it