at somebody based upon the color of their skin? >> color of the skin and the way they dress and actions and places they go, the way they speak. i could see how the police would want to do what is correct, but they're not going to be able to do it, because law enforcement generally for immigration has been in hands of the federal government for a reason. it's a national issue. if we start having arizona, and we battled these lawsuits in new jersey and oklahoma. >> i wanted to ask. did you have success? >> we had success in new jersey. turned out great. in that new jersey decided to withdraw the application of the law. but by the time that happened, there were so many people that fled the area, because they were afraid they were going to be subject to discrimination. many of the small businesses that were helping the town of riverside, there were ethnic, hispanic, asian businesses no longer were receiving the support they needed.

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