the right content, you're not going to get it. >> some say the solution is more charter schools which have done well -- >> i'm not a fan of charter school, i'm a fan of good charter schools. there are charters in the middle and charter school that is need to be closed. but the best are doing a great job particularly in underserved communities. our country needs more great school. does my teacher care about me? am i safe going to school? we need more great schools, great traditional schools. we need to replicate great charters. >> we don't hear a a lot of talk about vouchers. good catholic school, for example. you would support that? >> yes, it is. it's been agreeable. one note of discord, eliminating the scholarship program in washington was a really bad thing to do. these kids had opportunity and they were learning a lot. but charters are a very good thing.