in espn zone in times square in new york. richard, as the pga commissioner was saying, it was not sort of a big triumphant comeback and it had a kind of sad, somber note to it, and what was the reaction at espn zone? >> well, people knew an apology was coming and kevin here i have been dining with, what do you think, kevin? is it over? >> he made mistakes and held himself accountable. i don't know, i think it is over. that is what he did. he made some mistakes, and he owned up to it. i respect him more today than i did yesterday. >> all right. kevin, thank you. you will take care of the check, right? >> right. >> there are other people that we talked to a lot of people here in the espn zone and supportive of tiger woods and they feel that the apology was handled correctly, and they are accepting even if they weren't before, and some of the men felt that he was not contrite enough,