Day at all three locations here, and our new union market. We are excited about the offers that will be speaking for the next month so i encourage everyone to grab the Event Calendar to see who will be here in february. Before we get started i would like to remind everyone to silence your cell phones and devices. We are filming today and dont want any interruptions. We also ask you to make sure to use one of the microphones at the end to ask questions. If you dont speak into the microphone, your question will not be picked up on the recording. If you havent purchased a book yet and would like to do so, they are available you can ask a staff member and they will grab a copy. After the event is over there will be a signing blind to the right of the table and if youve been here before you know we ask everyone to fold up chair pull up a chair after the event and make resetting the store easier for the staff. Dr. Hill is an accomplished author and scholar. She has written two previous books. Is an assistant professor creative writing and African Studies at the university of kentucky. She is here to talk about her most recent work a bound woman is a dangerous thing. Inspired by the works of tony morrison, and drawing on the anxieties of temporary existence and the fluid nature of time and history, dr. Hill honors the time and suffering of African American women throughout history. While providing a detail insight into their personalities, she simultaneously delves into the forms of incarceration and the dehumanizing effects they have had on the women she writes about. A bound woman is a dangerous thing made it into the list of most anticipated books of 2019. We are excited and honored to have her here tonight so help welcome toery warm dr. Damaris hill. [applause] damaris i want to thank everybody for coming out. It is treacherous outside, and so i am so impressed that you all are here. If i do not begin to read immediately, i will burst into flames because im so anxious. All right, well let me try something new. What i would like to try for this reading is i would like everybody to close their eyes for a second. And remind yourself that you are human. That you make mistakes and that you are forgiven, that violence is not a currency, and that humanity is your culture, your tribe, and your people and your family. Thank you. My grandmothers picture opens this book, as far as i know she was never formally incarcerated. I choose to honor her because the jane crow styles of oppression that were prevalent during her lifetime included violence and threats for accessing civil liberties. These oppressions were rooted in false ideas of social superiority that can make one feel imprisoned. Jane crow types of oppression could affect mental health, mania, mental illness, fracture a wise womans intellect as they did with so many other black women in america. These forms of love letters the opening of this book explored how i am bound, beholden to others. I stand here bound in the legacy of love in the midst of the ricochet in solidarity with the hurt and wounded, whether they occupy this life or the next. Like sandra bland, freddie gray, ms. Susie jackson, and her cousin ethyl lance. Senator reverend pinkny, daniel simmons, sr. , pastor myra thompson, eric gardner, trayvon martin, eric harris, walter scott, jonathan furel, and others. The afflicted place for healing just as the hungry prey for bread. The wind has ever sent bread. In my recollection of the scriptures god has always sent a woman. A woman like eve, a woman like mosess mother, and the woman that raised him to be a king. A woman like debra, maybe sumanna, the wind as god ever sent bread. The poet advises me to study the masters and in this way my work reflects that historical lineage of resistance in my deep study of writers such as phyllis wheatly, anna julia cooper, francis harper, tony morrison, ms. Hill clifton. Lucille clifton. And in kind my work does not ignore the history of other writers using history as inspiration, my work is immersed in a profoundly literary american tradition which explored the realities of the american tradition in dialogue with the ideas of democracy. Like history, i am older than i look, my white ancestors immigrated to this country in the 1780s, my african and inditchinginous ancestors were already here before them. My mother is in labor with me in 1974. She and my father wish for a son to unite them. I came a woman in the body of a girl, 3. 5 weeks late, breaking my mother in too many ways. She had an energy to name me, my father is too lazy to be original. He scribbled my mothers name on the certificate and wrote his mothers name behind the wifes name. This ritual of naming is one way we learn to love and bind with people who are no longer sharing this planet with us. In these poems the legacy of these womens lives chased me like a strong wind. This book is a love letter to women that have been denied or erased. Every time i call a name in this book, presume that the person who bears the name is loved. If you are brave, imagine that women congealing on my tongue, giving the name, breath, and memory. Let these women dance among your days and with your nights dream better lives. So that was a portion from the preface. This book is a hybrid book, part memoir, part poetry. So im going to attempt to read a couple of poems, and ill see how much time i actually have. So, what ive been thinking about doing for the reading is actually calling the name of the women that are from the Geographic Area where im standing. So since this is the maryland, virginia, dc area, today im going to honor lucille clifton, zorra hursten, Harriet Tubman, another unnamed woman that was imprisoned in the eastern state penitentiary in philadelphia but she was actually from cambridge. And so i want to honor the women who were actually from this space because thats important to me. Lets begin with an echo poem from mrs. Clinton, in the garden. In the garden of marvel and men, i swivel slowly in. I am some clay faced janest following the drums of your tongue. Did you know, these halls are prone to echo. God is dead, yet the walls are greedy for confessions. Your words mirror my truth. Forgive me, my voice is a tapestry of tax trying to wither the skin. Lucille clifton is important because shes from the space and also because she was generous to me when i was very young, and very brash, and i thank her for this time and place. All right so the poem is divided into seven groups and they are all multiples of being entendres of being bound. And so i talk about being bound in a form of kinship, being bound in the form of being fettered, and as being imprisoned, being bound in terms of demarcation, and in terms of archival history. Being bound like a hinge and i also talk about being bound as a word that we use to talk about springing forth and going into new directions. So, the second the first chapter in the book is dedicated , well, the entire book is deadtated to my ancestors, blood relative, or otherwise. But in the Second Chapter in the book, i focus on a piece of research or book that she is the researcher of black women in prison. She did a wonderful book called colored amazons, and when i finished the book i couldnt stop scribbling poems about the case studies she unearthed in the book. So the Second Chapter in the book is very related to her work. So the poem im about to read to blackwhite criminality in withsane asylum, has to do a woman who could racially pass but chose not to. And once she was imprisoned she was encouraged to racially path. Pass. So that she can go into an insane asylum. The warden told her she didnt have to be here. Why would you choose to be here. So prison records describe the violent disorderly black female prisoner. Asylum records for a triple white female patient, criminality lay largely in the up i of the beholder, and those individuals most likely to be gazing, did so through a distorted lens. And thats from caly ann grosss book, colored amazons. This is titled black bird melody. Number one, blue veins line my wrists. Rosaries stitch in my palms. I pass through eastern a yellow canary. My voice, and have any tongue, hail mary, no grace, black soul in the middle of the psalms. My mother bibles songs, a broken heart bomb. By lips carry her cello harmony. Light skin cant hide what the ears can clearly see, a voice that gullies and studies your qualms. White stains my skin, and ripples in my hair, bears witness to a father i dare not love. Each strand a dusty track, an an eyelash, a prayer layered in cobblestones. To be white, drifting, each face that passed refuses to grieve. Number two, not a white woman nor do i wither. Darkness, i bloom between brick do i quiver, not a white woman nor do i wither. This lips trail away my woes. Not a white woman nor do i wit wither, in darkness i bruise a blue rose. Number three, silence. No song, beat me, bid, quiet, gag me, dead. Number four. Something has died there. Silence where a song once lived. Ironcuffed neck, wrists, no heaven, no one forgives, persecute me. An ice water baptism wakes my soul for refuse agnew boss man, first day on patrol. This warden cassidy wants me to waltz wrong, turn right, whispering to me life is better if crazy and white. You solo dance the cracks between alabaster tile. You live in the black, you gleamed white all the while. Number five, blackbird oriole. You can do anything but sing alone. She needs sisters, blackwinged melodies the southland contraltos of dark angels. Am i going to make you guys really, really sad . I do that in class. All the time. [laughter] yeah. I teach sometimes i teach African American studies or i teach american studies but what ineally teaches like horrors American History. And i sit there and i talk to them, and when it gets really bad i put a little inflection in the voice and i threatened class and say, go home and watch stand up. Try to heal a little bit. The next one is about hursten. We all know zora as being brass and outspoken and a brilliant writer. But, and some of us know about her being an anthropologist. But she was equally brilliant p at the sciences. And so, what ive been thinking a lot about with the book and the women in this book is how historically we limit them, and we dont talk about their greatness and fullness and their brilliance. And in all of the ways that they were dynamic, and so i thought a lot about zora and shes is definitely an inspiration to me. But this poem kind of talks about a younger zora, so with zora being black and a woman she enters the field of anthropology , which is dominated at this time by Eugenic Sciences and a guy named Madison Grant who definitely believes if youre male and youre white and you have money that youre at the top of the social and evolutionary hierarchy. And somebody like zora would be at the bottom of that hierarchy. But this poem is set at a cooktail party in new york. Where zora used to be a graduate student, meeting him. And so ill read it from there,. You should know one other person in the poem. Odebanga, he was taken from africa and he lived in the bronx zoo among the chimpanzees. So you should know their lives overlapped. Before the bronx zoo, odebanga boarded a ship, flipping a fish scale like a coin. The first shiny thing hes seen since his family had been murdered. Leopolds soldier still carries the finger of odebangas daughter to ward away evil in his pocket. Remember him, the man in with the monkeys . Who can forget the way he grit his teeth. They resemble clause. He is caged in the zoo, the same year her mother becomes a ghost. Thick and wet with memories, zora has a hard time keeping still. For morgan and baltimore to howard in the district to bernard near the bronx, he haunts her, folding the news clippings in with her lunch, reading the creases, mysteries draped in her palms. This odd chameleon, the cradles of hell always take the shape of a womans lips. Using a Looking Glass made from a martini, Madison Grant traces zoras square jaw. When she whispers to him about ann spencer and this border, his throat burns with curiosity. He considers this zoa and all that is alchemy. Is she the prophecy of stones . The fire within the Dark Sciences he ponders . Ok. So, lets go to this superhero right here, Harriet Tubman. You know ecologist, spy, ward nurse, soldier, freedom fighter, ship commander, john browns general tubman, lets talk about that. And people are silly enough to believe she couldnt read. [laughter] figure that, right . All right harriet is holey. So this poem is written in a peculiar way because we know that craft and content go together. So this poem can be read in any direction and hopefully it will make sense. And i did that purposely because you werent going to find Harriet Tubman in one spot. You can never locate her, and so i felt like a poem that would honor her would also have the same continuity. So im going to read it twice in two different ways. Hold it to the wind, what is it about water, women, take me ms. Tubman in toe, her instructions make my mark x. A river be as faithful as the daughter of eve, the mother of cane, her face a rainbow wonder, her smile a collection of stars and springs between water, between women, be no mysteries. I know of no man that stands waist deep in these crossings. This woman needs. Like braille. Bold in her feet, this woman needs these sweet waters in her palms, thousands call her. Moses. Ask the stars, even jesus needed a john the baptist. With arms wide, her, she in the intersections she be revolver and rescue. Ok. So that we get a little bit of water. So i just read this left to right, up and down traditionally. Now im going to read it up column, down column, up column. Ok . She be revolver and rescues with arms wide ask the stars thousands, this woman needs mossy river beds stands between water, between women, her smile of cane, a river, her intersections make what is it about, shy and these intersections, a june the baptist, her a moses, and her palms folded into the feet. These crossings, i know of no man, of stars and of springs, a rainbow wonder, a daughter of eve, x marks the spot, take me ms. Tubman in toe, hold hands to the wind, her even jesus needed. Call these sweet waters like braille. Waist deep in wet ministries. A collection her face is as faithful as any mark, water, woman, look at them. So [applause] thanks. I like to play. You cant really tell right now, but i like to play, particularly on the page. So let me look at my time. I am going to read one poem of a woman thats not from here, but shes tied to here so this poem is about ruby mcculm, and was a victim of paramore rights. Mostlye rights were emancipation, when usually an affluent white male in the community would seek out a black woman to have a family with. But it didnt matter what her choices for the family were, because the social and cultural constraints would just make her accessible. And so Ruby Mccallum was a victim of this to a man who was a doctor who was later elected senator before she shot him. But its important to also say, when we talk about her decision , well, yeah, yeah, the decision that resulted in his death, that she was a mother of three children that belonged to her husband, an affluent black businessman in the community, but her fourth child was fathered by dr. Adams. Prison, she was in miscarried a fifth child that we assume was also dr. Adams child. So, oh, this is important because zora covered her case. So thats why its connected to here. So we talk about zora her being a writer and an anthropologist, but she was working for the pittsburgh courier, and doing Anthropological Research on paramore rights. She said, girl, i got you. Come in now and we will do this. So thats what a lot of this book has taught me that these women were not operating in silos. They were operating in solidarity before we had words for it. So zora showed up and covering the case, and the pittsburgh carrier stopped paying her and if you know her shes all about her money. Which camino, i love. You know, i love. This is a capitalist society. Even though she stopped covering the case for the pittsburgh courier, what she did as soon as the case was over is that she published a story in a major outlet that reflected rubys experiences. So she never abandoned ruby or her story. So im going to read ruby mcculm. Ruby is from florida. It will make sense when i read the poem. They lie, some say that ruby and her husband sam are live oaks black bonnie and collide, but make no mention of her fine house with a pool and the ring of policemen swimming and her and sams pockets. I swear, between alabama and the gulf, its hard to keep anything anything out of the gators mouth, out of a raccoons grip. Some are buttery as the devil, crawling into your yard reaching. Greedy bandits treat an open window as an invitation. You findthet set and slayed, salten kings crisscross. They reach drawing you close, whispering paramour, threatening to tear any black man to pieces. Shes are the ways hes going to disrobe you come get you 2 a raccoon never retreats. Not for threat of bait or broom. They run you ragged, race, ever wait to find yourself on adams floor, dressed for church . Praying for a precipitation with some poison, ruby needed something to rid her of the little rascal scratching inside. No, who else would you call when a critter insists on living in your walls . So thats ruby mcculm, and im going to give the crowd a choice. Ok. Sandra bland or junia mclellan. Sandra bland. Damaris sandra bland. Ok. I must warn you after i read this poem i usually have a hard time, but im going to read it. I mean the whole book is a hard time, a hard time writing it, editing it. I was like give me page numbers, i cant go all the way back. Yeah, but im grateful, the ancestors are pleased. Again, thank you to everyone who bought the book. The book went through three printings before the book was released, so the ancestors are pleased. So thank you so much for purchasing the book. Its in its fourth printing, over 8500 copies are in circulation right now, and its a poetry book. You know . [laughter] we usually get about 500 in circulation, so thank you. Refrain. Aks, a choral it could have been me. Three degrees creased into the bits of the constitution in my veins like braille. The declarations tattooed inside my eyelids. How many times did sally hemmens have to hear about them . And affirm the tiny ego of time. Before he bears himself to his brothers collecting their postings, forgiving his debt. It could have been me. Like sandy, i would have missed them dashes in the road. The ways i skirt around corners under the cover of sun, i fleeing an interview, happy to have some means, pockets fluffy with promises, it could have been me. Listening to gospel, the lilts in my throat, running at a marlboro fog above my lips. My car would be all clouds, a heaven shaved with blue and red lights. It could have been me. My eyebrows high, my voice low, questioning about his bidding, it could have been me. A black woman, the color of oklahoma clay. A police man pretending to be some cowboy. Sandy had been in texas but a day. How long had he been hunting for one like her . He had seen this scene in his mind. It was a means of forgetting the man who refused to love him. And the black man she clung to. In this vision, he is a rodeostyle hero. Sandy is a rogue rascal. He holds out his tongue to shout to the coins and praises. A black woman without a job owns her dignity. Did he fancy excuse me, did his fantasy desire that too . He minded out of her back with his knees. History told him he could squeeze gold from a black womans wrists. Is that why he braided the noose to resemble a lasso . So yeah, im finished now. [laughter] [applause] thank you so much for listening. Ok, so any questions you have to come to the mic. You have to know also that one of the people that helped me write this book is here. We have nicole porter, an advocate from the sentencing project here. And her hard work [applause] helped to remind us how many of our citizens are incarcerated and engaged in what is seemingly free labor. Thank you. Hi. Good evening. Talk louder. Good evening. So thank you for your great work. Thank you. I loved how you opened up having us all close our eyes, that was different but i enjoyed it. So two things, if you can expound on the title of your book. So a bound woman is a dangerous thing, so if you can explain how so. Ok. And then secondly, you mention in one of your poems, i dont remember the title but you mentioned the concept of passing. So, for those of us who dont know what that means, if you can explain what it means. And then for some of the generations that may not know , then that would provide for somewhat of a History Lesson for them. Ok, so i will start with racial passing. Apparently its talking about blackness like this has gone out of style. But when i was younger i grew up in the ame church and there were lots of people that could pass for white, but were culturally black, and theres no such thing as biologically black, but culturally black and considered themselves to be African Americans but very much looked white. And so, theyre looking white, and claiming to be white, even if you had african ancestry, provided some benefits in a white supremacist culture. And many people did claim to be white that actually have african ancestry. Like its believed white people in the south possess at least 20 african ancestry. So, it is a real kind of tool to navigate power. To be affiliated with the dominant culture. Thats what racially passing is. Did i say that correctly . O heady, too academic . Ok, so the title a bound woman is a dangerous thing. So this is my third verse poetry group. And what i mean by that is that in 2003, i started writing a poetry manuscript and it was unnamed. In 2012 i rewrote it and some of those poems were in here, but not many, and it was entitled , bound. There is a lot of experimental poetry in that second draft of the manuscript, and so bound allowed me to talk about my concerns with the rising rates of women in incarceration, but hole so put me in a position where i can talk about springing forth out of certain constraints and legacies. And you know, i spent a lot of time reading. And particulary at this time i have a ritual called my little spiritual cultural vitamin. When i hear something nasty on tv or twitter, i go to youtube or ill type james baldwin, or i will type any other black women scholar that i respect, in. I will get five minutes that was like my smoothie. I can go out into the world. And so, with that said, alice walker has a quote, and i think she was referring to her daughter when she said it. But the quote is a grown child is a dangerous thing. And then as i was creating the third manuscript, i was like if you ever see a woman bound up, you know that woman has already proven that she is dangerous. If you ever see a woman in shackles, shes demonstrated that she will run. Right . Shes demonstrated that shes committed to freeing herself. And then again, thinking about the meaning of springing forth. What does it mean to neglect the that areheritances associated with oppression . That is considered dangerous. And a lot of women in the book , particularly area tubman, and any references that i make to madame , which is like a mythological american figure but based upon a real person, marie lavoe in new orleans, i think of those as being the ultimate people to spring forth. They were elijah figures. Elijah in the bible is a person who didnt die. He just ascended to heaven. And what is unique about these three people is that they did not die in bondage. These were the most resistant black women, the women most committed to freeing all black people. And none of them died in bondage. So everyone that tried to work with the system somehow found themselves bound by the system. One person is probably dancing right now in cuba, sipping a drink. Harriet tubman got to die in a nursing home that she found because she liberated her parents. Talk about that. Again, so we still believe Harriet Tubman couldnt read, right . Like she freed over a thousand people, she started a nursing home, or an Old Folks Home in upstate new york, close to canada, freed her parents, put them there, and when she got ready to die, she went in there. But we still believe she was illiterate. I bet. I bet. And then finally, the mythology lavoe is that she died in a hurricane praying for the people of her community. Why was odebanga in the poem . Damaris because he was in the bronx zoo, and thats where bar he is, and he had the geographic locale to be in the presence of zora. Because ann spencer was a poet, it was with the harlem renaissance, so her living in virginia, i cant imagine zora hung out at everybodys house, had not met odebanga. If he was living with ann spencer. So thats why. As opposed to sara bartman. But in the original manuscript i do mention sara bartman. Because in 1974, sara bartman was still on display at the museum. Thats the year i was born. Still on display, her vagina in a jar, her brain in a jar, her as the cass, and labeled missing link between human beings and animals. She was still on display, that washed out in the edit, but when i teach about medical racism, i begin with sara bartman. I dont begin in the United States. All right, who is going to go . Youre supposed to be at the mic. Cspan wants to say hi. Thank you very much for your reading. Can you speak about the archival work you did for the collection . Damaris yes. So, i dont know if theres any particular methodology with archives, but i treat archives like a sand box. Its my favorite place to be. So, because i believe the history lies. History lies. You want to know a place, go to the archives. You have to sift through the sand. Find the glitches. Weight . Weight . Wait . Wait . This place isnt wonderful . So, and that was probably the beginning of like archival research, but i just love it. Its not really a methodology, its more like a craving. Yeah. So thats it. You have a lot of fascinating people in that book and im looking forward to getting to know them better some of them that i dont know well. Ok. You also talked about something not making it through the editing. Who is somebody that wants desperately or wanted to be in the book that didnt make it through the editing . Damaris there are lots of people. Jarina lee was a pastor in the 1700s in the ame church who walked over 1000 miles to give her sermons, but she was denied being in the pulpit. I just couldnt manipulate the poem the way i wanted to. And so, i didnt put it in between the pages. There are lots of people that i couldnt do honor to, like angela davis. I felt the poem i was creating wasnt ready yet. If i couldnt give them a praise song that pleased my ear and my heart, then that poem just needs more time. Im glad to hear you say it that way because as a grayhaired lady i know that things come later sometimes. Yeah. And i look forward to your future books. Damaris thank you so much. Thank you so much. Congratulations. Im so happy for you. And im so happy to see young women in the audience tonight. I wonder what you hope the book will do and what conversations you hope the book will spark for young women and black women in particular. Damaris number one, it was nicoles research that allowed me to come in contact with the statistic that over a decade the incarceration rate for women increased over 700 . And if im not mistaken, for women it was like 814 . And if you love black women, that needs to be a concern for you. If you love freedom and democracy, as i love democracy , it needs to be a concern for you. If you are an abolitionists and against free labor systems, that needs to be a concern for you. I hope that the conversation about mass incarceration will broaden from being almost exclusively about black men, into including the way that black women are victimized by the criminal justice system, but also by poverty. I believe one of your statistics says that 80 of the women incarcerated make less than 20,000 a year, and they are head of household. Right . So what kind of choices are being made to maintain the health and the wellbeing of children . Yeah. I hope that answers the question. How are you doing dr. Hill . Damaris how are you doing . Thats my brother in law guys. The poem you read, the one that goes up and down, that was brilliant, by the way. Thank you. What inspired you to write that the way you did . Damaris i had several poems from Harriet Tubman, like i did to others in the book. But none of them did her justice. Like the poem not only has to have the content of their life, but it has to craft wise reflect their personality. So my poem to ida b wells is written in linguistic narratives, but also in numbers, because everybody talks about ida b. Wells being a journalists , but thats what she did on the side. She was at the forefront of Statistical Research in her day, and she had all the stats for lynching across the country. And she began this again, in solidarity with her best friend because her best friends husband was snatched from the bed and lynched. And from that point on she was recording every lynching. You know, so it was an act of love that turned into a great intellectual endeavor, but she put it in the newspaper so other people would know. So when i began to write her poem, you have to read the poem out loud. You cannot read the symbols in the poem because they wont give you the narrative structure of the poem. You have to read the poem out loud because i use symbols, so right under the title of the ida b. Wells, it says all in symbol, love comes quick no the speed of light is almost equivalent to love coming in a hurry. And what i was playing in the background when i was writing that is princes thieves in the temple. Because it talks about the stealing of a lover. And it was around the time when he passed. So that poem definitely kept me in a trance. I was in it for like days. Meditating on what would be ida b. Wells. The same thing happened for Harriet Tubman. I was trying to get it right, and, you know, i am shameless, kind of but Harriet Tubman came to me in a dream. And a lot of the imagery in that poem is the imagery from the dream. But when i started to structure the poem i knew i couldnt pin her down because she could never be found. She was elusive, so what, 90 something years . So how could i put her in one structure . That wouldnt do her justice. Right. Damaris so the other poems are somewhere. Thank you. Good evening dr. Hill. Damaris good evening sister in law. Also fellow writer. Thank you for choosing black women as a central theme for your book. Its really inspirational. Thanks. Well, i wanted to know if you could go deeper into your Creative Process, because you know, you mention something about that you started it in 2003, and then in 2012. Damaris its a different book, yeah. And so is it fair to say it took you about 15something years. Damaris absolutely its fair to say. So if you could go deeper into your Creative Process because as youre an inspiration, and i hope someday i could be in your position, but i find sometimes im aiming for like it will never happen. Ill never come out with a book, and ive been writing and writing and not sure just if you could describe your selection process, your editing process damaris i have a team. Demystify it. Damaris so the thing is im obsessive about revisions too. Writing is the most insecure aspect of my life. Im extremely insecure and anybody that knows me doesnt believe that, but when it comes to writing im extremely insecure. So i never believe anything is finished, so my revision process is about 25 times for each work. I revise for sounds, for content. When i was younger i used to read a lot of latino literature, and im still obsessed with trying to get the musicality that i find in latino literature , because it is a romance whichge, in english, doesnt work because its too clamry, but i still want it, i want it to be good to the ear. But, i was given timelines and dates so i just met the dates. There are things in this book i want to change right now. I want to change it right now. But, it is just in the world. I have to let it go. So, set deadlines and adhere to them, because youll continue to revise. And then my team, which is my editor at bloombsbury, who by the way is a wonderful person, she said if you dont change one thing in the book im still taking it. She had probably ten pages she wanted me to look at. But my agent, and my agents daughter worked with me on this book for about a year. There were times when i was cautious. Im a person who served in the military, and i have a lot of friends that have served in the military. And whose livelihoods depend on it. I wanted to be careful. You know, being in some of these peoples topfive, i was very cautious about not trying to jeopardize them. You know . And, just knowing just having that intimate knowledge of the way the military and the United States government work in tandem, right . And so, there were some places i was soft and cautious, and i needed encouragement to be more specific. And there were some spaces where i really, really went hard in the paint, like another person whose poem was good, but didnt go in a book because the editing was condoleezza rice. If you are in solidarity, youre in solidarity, right . So imagining what kind of negotiations she might have had to make, even in a position of power that she occupied. Or what she had to tolerate. But that didnt make the book. You know . You have to take that out . That is one of my favorites. So i took it out, you know . You are welcome. So we are, unfortunately, running out of time. If you havent bought the book , it is available at the register. We will be forming a signing line to the right of the table. I am sure dr. Hill would be happy to sign your books. Thank you for coming. And lets give dr. Hill a round of applause. Damaris thank you everybody. [applause] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. 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