May come to order . I consent that military can call resources, i ask unanimous chant that they recognized for ten minutes each during the question rounds, and without objection, so ordered. Before i begin and similar to the previous hearing on the 737 max, with the ceo of boeing testifying in october i want to explain that administrative manners regarding some documents we may use, i will be making two unanimous consent requests and reference to to document lists, list a, list be. First the documents contained on this to be our marked export controlled, apparently they stamp everything. We have been advised by house general counsel that they provide ample authority for us to release these documents. However, with regard to documents i will be making unanimous consent requests regarding the release of these documents, pursuant to the control act. Second, i will be making unanimous consent request to enter the documents on a list day into the hearing record. This includes additional documents, we have made at the Ranking Member of staff aware of the documents from both lists. The documents have been available to them, and with that i would ask unanimous consent that the documents on lots to be, from a four eight because of withholding such information is contrary to the national interest. Hearing no objection, so dordered. In addition, i ask unanimous consent to enter all documents on lets day into the hearing record. Without objection, so ordered. I now recognize myself for opening remarks. And in response to two to catastrophic crashes that claimed 346 lives in a span of five months, i would like to recognize the family members up those killed, some of whom are here today, and our thoughts are with you as always. We are here to ensure the lives of your family members were not lost in vain, and without response. You can be short this committee will continue to be aggressive in our oversight efforts to determine what went so horribly wrong, lie, and we will not rest until we have enacted legislation to prevent future an where the airplanes. In November November 2018, a few days after a powerful system running in the background of the 737 max, called mcas, blitzed lion air flight 610 into an uncomfortable dive. The faa issued and Emergency Airworthiness Directive that reported to inform pilots on how to respond to erroneous activation of mcas, well, it never mention the system by name. In fact, during the certification of the 737 max, boeing forced the faa to remove references from mcas from the operating manual as revealed in the emails and instant messages from boeing executive mark forkner, which boeing failed to provide to the committee. The faa except to the boeings push for men on went on to both but he was deadeye mine trucking, in quote, other Civil Aviation regulators around the world to adapt the faas faulty decision. Perhaps most chillingly we have learned that shortly after the influence of the air worthiness directive, the faa performed and analysis that if left and correct it, it could result in as many as 15 future fatal crashes over the life of the fleet, with the assumption, which is questionable that 99 go to comply with the airworthiness directive where within ten seconds. So today some said it is wrong. Despite his own calculations, the faa rolled the dice and let them continue until boeing could overhaul its software. Tragically, the faa never saw the light of day beyond the closed doors. In the next crash, taking more lives five months later, Ethiopian Airlines flight 300 into, march 2019. A communities investigation was launched desk days after the second accident, we received more than half 1 million pages of documents from boeing. The faa and other parties continues to analyze, and that does not include numerous emails from the faa that we have requested. We just received another large blotch on monday night, in response to our april request and others have yet to be provided. We have interviewed and spoken with employees, going whistleblowers, among others, these documents, emails interviews are crucial to our investigation, which has uncovered a broken Safety Culture within boeing and an faa that was unknowing, or unwilling to step, up regulate and provide appropriate oversight of boeing. The faa failed to ask the right questions, the answers that agency staff received from boeing our investigation, revealing that many faas own technical experts believe faas management often side with boeing, rather than standing up for the safety of the public. Ive read your testimony, i appreciate the tenor and the substance of your remarks, i commend your commitment to cultivating ageist culture among faa employees and ensuring they have the analysis and tools necessary to make the right decisions in the name of safety. But our investigation today it has established that faa employees did not have the analysis and tools necessary to make decisions. The safety theres no situation that is they should be subjected. I suspect you and your subordinates will back them up, defended their decisions based on technical evidence, and mandated compliance. But wing made egregious errors, including the implementation of mcas, while knowing it could prevent present a catastrophic risk, and failed to do its job without providing the Regulatory Oversight to ensure the safety of the flying public. They trusted put did not verify Key Information and assumptions boeing presented about the max and this was at a time when boeings own employees, as we learned reported they perceived undue pressure from management. Were trying to figure out what went wrong here to fix it legislatively and not ever allowed Something Like this to happen again, in that spirit, on this panel we will hear from administrator steve nixon, and a member of their panel that is assessing remedial changes. Mr. Dixon, as i said i appreciate what i read in your testimony about the approach, but i will still have some tough questions for you, and i hope to hear from you about they have identified as false failures, in the certification of the max, what concrete steps you are taking to prevent them, and i appreciate your commitment to ensuring it will not take flight again until they certify it is 100 confident and safe. We will hear from two former faa and boring employees, as well as two respected experts in the field of aviation and human safety factors for their perspectives on the faulty design, and we will hear from a boeing whistle blower and a former employee of boeing. Therefore i want to be certain that, i worked for a number of years and it was only after people died that i stripped faa up its promotional responsibility. And they want to be certain that has not crept back in. The Industry Needs promotion congress can do it or they can do it themselves. You and your people are there for one reason only, to assure the safety of the flying public and i look forward to your testimony today. With that, i will yield to the Ranking Member. Thank you. I want to add my comments and recognized the families and the friends of the victims. We have not forgotten your losses and i ensure that we all share the same goal to ensure our system remains the number one system in the world and the safest system in the world this is the fifth hearing on boeing and the tragic accidents that the committee has held in eight months. There are at least a dozen other reviews and investigations that are ongoing some have been completed recently and we are fortunate to have one of the representatives from the technical adviser that will be with us today and im pleased th committee is going to hear from him on the ongoing work to independently evaluate the boeing software fix. I am confident that these export reviews are going to provide us with the insights that we need to keep our Aviation System the safe this and the world. The majority has divided the current faa leaders to testify and while they can address the faas efforts since two accidents they werent in charge for that five years between 2012 and 2017 when the max certification process took place. Until we hear from the officials, the in investigation is in complete his incomplete at best. Should the investigations revealed problems and the certification process, congress should act accordingly. We have to ensure that we have the benefit of all export reviews and investigations are still underway to focus on the facts and data from those reviews. When it comes to aviation safety we have to leave out the partisanship and the gotcha moments and i know his team and thousands of faa professionals are all dedicated to aviation safety and a proven any process that needs improvement and i look forward to what the administrator is doing with recommendations that have already been received within the last year, taking leadership at the faa i am committed to addressing any problems discovered in the process and working with the process on a bipartisan effort. Ive said this before two and it bears repeating as a professional pilot myself i still believe that the faa is the Gold Standard in the world for safety. Air travel if the safety is mad of transport in history. And when it is clear to fly it again, it will be safe to fly, no doubt in my mind. We are working to ensure the Safety System improves and we have a responsibility to do that together. With that, i look forward to todays hearing, and i yield back the balance. Thank you. Thank you my comments will be relatively brief as i released a video statement yesterday, and i refer folks to that for my full comments, but i will summarize it. The committee reaches a new milestone in this investigation. Its clear the process by which the faa evaluates is in repair. We must ensure the safety of the flying public. As this work continues 346 lives have been lost in the lion air and Ethiopian Airlines crash as. Will remain at the forefront of these efforts. Several of the film members are here today and i extend my deepest condolences to you and your loved ones. Youre advocacy makes a difference. The faa must fix its credibility problem. Desk as i asked communities last hearing they expect to hear from the faa a two write mistakes they had, made and the specific stakes they are taking to restore public confidence. Ill look forward to hearing about the tap process as it looks over faa soldier as they return the decision. The two former employees are providing an important perspective on questionable management decisionmaking. They seem to prioritize economic interests. Im interested in learning more from Safety Experts on the panel about the integration of Human Factors as Aviation Technology becomes increasingly automated. Airplanes are changing, but the federal government and certification does not seem to be changing with those airplanes. And 2019 is coming to an end, committees investigation is far from over. The committee will continue to maintain safety as its guiding principle and use all available tools to ensure the safety of the traveling public. I yield back. I now recognize Ranking Member of the subcommittee mr. Graved from louisiana. Thank you, i like to thank the family for being at the hearing today, our fifth hearing on the max as ive said at every previous hearing your efforts remind us that this is about people, not government bureaucracy process, its about people and safety so i want to thank you for your advocacy efforts throughout this process. Mister chairman, we are on our fifth hearing today and there are extraordinary efforts underway to ensure that were able to extract every single lesson that we can from the 7 37 Max Disasters. As some have noted the ongoing investigations that have completed the special committee of the safety oversight certification advisory committee, or the technical Advisory Board the boeing board of directors as a committee the National Transportation safety board, the very committee that the majority has underway. We have the Inspector General, department of justice criminal investigation, securities and Exchange Commission and others, the indonesian and the ethiopian authorities as well, so multiple investigations with a lot going on. We have the administrator of the faa, so thanks for being here. As i recall youve been on the job for four months so you are here to talk right now about a path forward. Where we are, what weve learned and the path forward. In the second panel, we have a number of folks including, quasiwhistleblowers. They have not sought official was deplore status but folks that play that role of whistleblowers so we have folks that were there intimately involved in the process and theyre able to shed some light on what was going on on the ground, so we have someone who is the current administrator who has been there for four months, we have folks that were involved in the process on the ground that are somewhat whistleblower status. But what we have not hadnt any of these hearings are the people that actually made the decisions, back when this process was being certified, there is a gap in this hearing and Ranking Member graves and i have requested over and over again that we fill the void. I can say all these acronyms and talk about the investigations but if we dont have the full slate of understanding of whats going on then we are at risk of making decisions that dont have the full view. I have no desire to rub someones face in the ground, but i do, and it made a commitment to those folks and i will fulfill it. I do want to make sure that we understand everything that happened and we dont allow mistakes to be made again. We need to learn from the mistakes and to learn from the successes, and build upon both of. Those so i do hope, as we continue this process, as we move forward in the investigation, that we fill the void and understand what has happened every step of the way, and that we are able to make decisions that truly eased the safest Aviation System possible, and that we are able to ensure that passengers on airlines, domestic and foreign will continue to be flying on the safeties means of transport available. So i want to thank you for being here, i want to thank you and many folks behind you for all of the work that you have done to get us to where we are. I think everyone knows what our end goal is and that is to ensure that we prevent absolute perfection. Im looking forward to hearing your testimony as well as that of the second panel. Before i begin my questions, i would observe that weve been asking since we received our first emails from faa in boeing, to interview career staff, and the people that made the decisions. And until recently, with the new administrator, we were being stonewalled and being told that we cant talk to the employees that raise concerns. We can only talk to managers, that has changed with this administrator and we have interviews is scheduled with people making decisions. If we find that it went higher than that, we will call those people. But we just spent seven hours jointly, republican and democratic staff questioning the current head of safety who was there when this document was issued about the probability of another crash, and says he was not aware of that or anything that went on, so i dont know how high up this went, and i think thats one of the problems. We have to look at. That most of these decisions were made by captive regulator managers in the seattle offices and no one knew about it. So we are going to get to the bottom of this, and if it goes any higher than that we will have those people, so with that, i will recognize myself for questions. I forgot. Thank you. I got carried away,. Good morning members of the committee, thank you for inviting me here today to speak with you about the federal aviation administrations approach to safety oversight and to provide you with an update concerning the boeing 737 max. With me today is the executive director of the faas Aircraft Certification Service when we fly anywhere in the, world we enjoy safety that is on arrival in the modern transportation era. Thats because the faa in the world understand that the success of the global Aviation System rests squarely on our shared commitment to safety, and our common understanding of what it takes to achieve it. Together, we build a Safety Record that is the envy of other transportation modes, the Health Care Field and others. But we are humble we are our best efforts fail. On behalf of the United States department, i would like to once again extend our deepest sympathy and condolences to the families of the victims of the Ethiopian Airlines and lion air accidents, and we thank you for being here today, we have met with the family members and friends of those on board, seeing their pain, loss and a reaffirms the seriousness with which we must approach safety every single day, thats why were working tirelessly to ensure the Lessons Learned from these terrible losses will result in a higher margin of safety globally. For the 737 max return to service the faa fully controls the approvals process and is not delegating anything to boeing. We will retain authority for all new 737 Max Airplanes manufactured since the grounding. On the 737 max is return to service, it will be because the safety issues have been addressed, pilots have received all the training they need to safely operate the aircraft. This process is not guided by a calendar or schedule. Actions that might still take place include a certification flight test, and completion of work by the joint operations evaluations board, which will include Pilot Training needs. Additionally, the faa and the technical Advisory Board will reveal the final designed documentation. Finally, i am not going to sign off