Transcripts For CSPAN3 Anti-Semitism And Muslim Supremacy Di

That is quite funny that song was playing, because that is my goto karaoke song. So what a great start to the panel. So, as jennifer so kindly mentioned, i am very honored to be here as one of the newest Tony Blankley fellows and to moderate this conversation which is so important right now. Conservatives often disagree with, you know, the left and other political factions about the role of government in todays society, but i think that the one thing that we all do agree on is that the governments most important responsibility is protecting its citizens from all threats both foreign and domestic. We have seen a rise in antisemitism, and in radical islamic terror as well as domestic terror, and so it is only harder for the government over the years to take care of this very important responsibility, but luckily, we have two great panelists with us here today to help to break it down. First the cofounder of the Muslim Reform Movement, and she has dedicated her life to promoting peace and human rights and womens rights within the Muslim Community, and she has an illustrious resume including being a report forewall street journal and teaching at my alma mater George Washington journal. And joining us via skype is sarah carter from fox. She has written for the Washington Examiner and the washington times, but now she publishes the exclusive original reporting on sarahacarter. Com. She has covered everything from the war in afghanistan and iraq to the security crisis on our southern border. So please, give a big round of applause for our wonderful panelists. So, if anyone knows how to keep america safe which is of course the topic of this panel, it is definitely azra and sarah. So i want to start with something important because i was 7 years old when the 9 11 terror attacks occurred and it is one of the biggest news events in the United States that i remember, and was really affected by, and so for a vast majority of my life, we have been fighting the wars against islamic terror in afghanistan and iraq and of course theres been the attempts of the nation building by the bush administration, and id like you all to start to just speak about how this threat has grown over the years, because the Muslim Community didnt used to be such a radical, and didnt have such radical sects and quite welcoming to the women, and freer than they are now, and so what are the pivotal moments in the Muslim Community to lead us to this point. Thank you so much for having me here. I am so honored to be amongst you, and the invitation to come here. And so my experience i was a little older on september 11th, 2001, but it was and a ha moment like so many. I am a muslim born in india to a theologically conservative family, and so share a lot of values with many of you in the room. I wasnt allowed to go to the dance when i was in junior high school, when the senior class president asked me to go to the senior prom and i said that i cant, because i was not allowed the date. You know, we had the arranged marriage, and so there are many ideas religiously that align with the religious conservatives in america, but the great departure for my family and for me is this interpretation of the islam that preached violence. And this is going to be an interpretation that has been exported to our world over my lifetime as 1979 brought sunni and shia leaders to compete for the hearts and minds of muslims. So sarah will speak to you about what she has witnessed, but on that day on september 11th, 2001, i knew as a journalist and muslim i had to get on a plane and go to pakistan to speak about the war that is about to unleash. It is there that i had the critical moment, and my colleague at the wall street journal was the journalist danny pearl. Yeah. You all can feel just in that reaction, you know, the tragedy that had happened to danny. For some of the younger ones here, he was a journalist who was reporting, like all journalists, and he came to visit me in my home in karachi, pakistan, and from there he was kidnapped. He was beheaded by men who laid out their prayer rug after they had slain him, because they believed that they were doing something divine. My journey has been to stand up to that interpretation of islam that led to the killing of danny, because he was jewish and supported the right for israel to exist. And that is how the muslim reform was born in the United States to try to put forward an interpretation of islam that believes in peace, womens rights and another really important principle of secular governance, because so many of the muslim extremists want their theocracy and the idea of the muslim supremacy to be the idea of governments, and so, yeah. And sarah, you lived in the middle east for some time, and you have seen a lot of this first hand, and how has this radical element ip filtrated what were once peaceful muslims . Well, first, thank you so much for having me here and being able to speak to the Steamboat Institute. I wish that i could be there with the audience and azra who is a great friend and i have so much adoration for, because she is speaking a truth that we are not hearing enough from muslim women. I grew up in saudi arabia and i spent my formidable years in the kingdom from the time i was 6 years old until i started high school in the United States. My father worked there as an american. I remember a kingdom of strict islamic law wahhabiism, and i remember traveling throughout, and like azra and in egypt and lebanon and the persian gulf, things were different. It was not this strict wahhabi law or the strict interpretation of the islamism that we were facing. Now, today, and i remember september 11th like i am sure that everybody else who lived through it, and it changed my life. Because at that point, just like azra, but that is when i decided to dedicate my life to journalism and to covering the war and to covering terrorism, and to covering the things that are the National Security issues that affect our nation. I believed that because i had the experience that is what led me to it. So it changed my life completely, and changed my life forever, because, i spent so many of the last years of my life in the middle east and in south asia covering the war like azra. Look, what we are seeing today, and we have to understand this, these islamists are trying to divide us, and pit us against one another. And we need to listen to the reformers and people like azra and people like dr. Conta ahmed and women who are out there and others who are out there speaking about what is truly the essence of muslim, and being of muslim and it is certainly not that. And i want to wrap it up, because i want to get back to azra, but i have had the most extraordinary experiences with beautiful friends and warm and welcoming peoplek and i have also seen the face of pure evil. I dont know if people have seen the news today, but the press release has been released that two women in brooklyn and actually from queens, they pleaded guilty today in brooklyn to basically preparing and planning to build a bomb and distribute bombmaking instructions to followers. They are extremists. They are radicals, and they follow groups like al qaeda and Islamic State and they actually had the intention of using a weapon of mass destruction or a woman in the United States, and these are two women, two american women, and muslim women who have been radicalized, and so this is a very important discussion. I am happy to be here. I am hoping that azra and i can dispel some of the inaccurate information out there and get to the root of what is causing this rise in radicalism among some in the muse sim community, and w me can stop this and communicate and make a difference. How has radicalism made its way to the u. S. . We are seeing a rise in the domestic terrorism and in White Supremacy and islamism, and i wonder how you see that making its way to the u. S. , and how is that ideology taking root where we value things like democracy and freedom and liberty. For me, i came from india and lived first in new jersey and lived in morgantown, West Virginia, in the foothills of the appalachian mountains, and my father was a professor at West Virginia university. So when it was a teen, i went for the annual ede party that marks the the end of ramadan, and normally we would all sit together in a room, and husbands and wives and families together. And then one year we were told as we were walking into the front, the women over there. And we were sent as women and girls into the little studio apartment that the graduate students lived in, and there, the men would bring the food that all of the women had cooked and leave it at the door, and knock on the door and run away. As if they were to look at us and turn to stone, because saudi students had come to campus, and they had brought with them suitcases of their korans, and their interpretation of is lam, and this wahhabiism that sarah is talking about. And so what has happened in america that is of such importance to all of you who are interested in the political system is that first the saudis and now the government of qatar and now the current government of turkey have funded muslim organizations in the United States that believe in this islamism which is the ideology of political islam, and the idea of the muslim supremacy, and this is organizations that you might be familiar with like the council of American Islamic relations and activists like linda swarsoir. And so they have taken it and brought it forward as an agenda item. And what comes to that is that any of you who care about pluralism is antisemitism. A very clear agenda to destroy the state of israel, and as the last Panel Discussed now what we are seeing is the unmasking of ideas, right . We now know where people are espousing socialist ideas and saying it straight up, and now with the rise of rashid and representative tlaib, we are seeing the propaganda tour canceled by the Prime Minister of israel. Because he knew in the agenda is destruction of israel. So that is the alarm bells that we want to raise with many of you that i know that you are aware of, but what has happened is that they have inserted themselves into the Democratic Party platform. They have decided that liberal america and the left is the way that they are going to enter into american politics. This weekend, it is going to be a big muslim vote drive by all of the organizations. Their interest is to have rashid omar and tlaib to succeed. And the womens march which is found by linda sarzoar was supposed to bring awareness to the shariah law, and so how is this a government platform when it is antithetical to what they believe . Well, i could not have said it much more clearer. How does it happen . It happens slowly and with the ability of someone like ilhan omar or representative Rashida Tlaib coming out to making statements, and you know, it is very difficult for people on the left and many on the right to stand up to them. Because the one thing that they are afraid of is the one thing that they will automatically throw back at anyone who criticizes them. You are antimuslim, and antiwoman, and you dont understand culture, and you dont understand where i come from, and you must be a racist and people are terrified of that. Especially in the age of political correctness. Right. So, a lot of times people hold back. They are afraid of asking question, and with this party, we saw what happened with nancy pelosi. She challenged them. You see what happens when anybody challenges Rashida Tlaib and ilhan omar, but you can see what israel did. They said no way. You are not going to bring that here, and we know why you are here, and you support that movement that is so divisive and actually working closely with the palestinian terror organizations early on. You are not coming into israel. It was very difficult decision, i am sure, because they felt the wrath of that from other people across the globe, but israel understands where these two women were coming from. I interviewed the former ms. Iraq who is muslim and lives in the United States now. At the age of 18, she actually volunteer and took on a job as interpreter for u. S. Forces in iraq, and became enamored by the United States and what it stood for, and eventually came to the u. S. She was a refugee as well in syria for a period of time. She went straight out after ilhan omar saying that you do not represent me as a muslim woman, and i dont know if any of you saw the stories out there, but they had a really back and forth battle going on publicly, because she is trying to dispel what ilhan omar and Rashida Tlaib are putting out there. They are saying they are the representation of the muslim women all across the globe, and they are not. There are muslim women all across the globe who are heroes and who are fighting this type of, i would say antiwoman movement that has been pushed forward so strongly within is lam, and just thinking of m lushgs malalla who stood up for freedom. And i know that azra has thought about this, because she was in the same region, but we as americans need to stand up for these women. And we need to stand up for people across the globe to fight for the same liberties and freedoms that we fought for the establish the country, and unfortunately the left does not do that. Instead of uplifting women they are not for omar ilhan or Rashida Tlaib, and so we have to question them, and ask them what they believe and then stand up for the women all over the world who can back up the shift of the tide when it comes to the rise of islamism and terror. One of the things that you speak of a lot, azra, is what is the alternative of what is happening with islamism, and that is what your group seeks to do is to provide that alternative. What i was reminded of when sarah was talking about so eloquently of how israel reacted. I come from the muslim society, and we are an honor shame culture which is oftentimes the lever to intimidate people into silence, and so that is the goto for this Muslim Movement wahhabi as i call them. They try to shame you into silence, so if you dare to question them, they will call you an islamophobe, but at some point we have to be shameless and stand with courage and conviction. I want to gently say that it is really important to allow in islam and muslim the same progress and reformation that has had happened in judeochristianism and other religion where is you go back to tradition and see with the clear eye what is working for the present day and what doesnt. So, islam is born in the 7th century, and so we are 700 years behind and give us a little bit of, you know, slack for the fact that we have all of the theocratic governments basically with the club over the heads of so many muslims, but what we are offering is a vision in the Muslim Reform Movement for an interpretation of islam that is called the methuselahites who believed in Critical Thinking, and the critical principle of Education System in america. They believed in rational thought. Just like philosophical movements through history have been crushed and then reborn, they were crushed. That was when the gates of i ishtahad or Critical Thinking were broken, and so now we are bursting therethe gates and we are so grateful that through a country like this that we can do this with relative safety and security. So, please, look at islam not as a monolithic interpretation, but one that has a continuum and we are not trying to, to do anything except bring principles with which islam was born that are the most progressive and able to live in the 21st century. I want to sneak in one more question before we turn it over to the audience for your questions. And this ties so much into immigration and the immigration policy, because when you are looking at what has happened in europe with the refugee crisis, and sweden for example, and attempted rain eed rape of gir to 20 up 20 , and other rapes up 25 , and men convicted of rape were foreign nationals and not native of sweden and so what can we learn of the policies that we are trying to craft to try to protect our borders. Sarah . This is a subject that means so much to me. I spent so much of my career in the u. S. mexico border and inside of mexico and Central America and guatemala twice in the last year, and plan to returning shortly. There are so many lessons that we can learn. Lessons that we can learn over decades of having this same problem in crisis repeated over and over again. I could tell the audience, i listened back to some of my work in 2006 was on the radio or whether it was the stories i wrote in 2014 when there was a flood of undocumented children in the u. S. It sounded like i was talking today. The same crisis. This is a National Security crisis at the border. It is not just about immigration, but the border is wide open and not just to people that we see coming from Central America which we have not properly vetted or cant properly vet in time, because they dont have identifiers or any type of identification on them, but people from all over the world, and we have seen the increases of the people coming from as far as away as bangladesh, and congo, and while i was in guatemala there were a number of people who had come through basically from bangladesh as well as from africa, north africa through brazil up through colombia, and then eventually through guatemala. We dont know who these people are. We dont know what their intentions are. And unless they are in a database, we will have no idea what their intentions are, and i think that this is why the Trump Administration, and in fact, i know this is why the Tony Blankley<\/a> fellows and to moderate this conversation which is so important right now. Conservatives often disagree with, you know, the left and other political factions about the role of government in todays society, but i think that the one thing that we all do agree on is that the governments most important responsibility is protecting its citizens from all threats both foreign and domestic. We have seen a rise in antisemitism, and in radical islamic terror as well as domestic terror, and so it is only harder for the government over the years to take care of this very important responsibility, but luckily, we have two great panelists with us here today to help to break it down. First the cofounder of the Muslim Reform Movement<\/a>, and she has dedicated her life to promoting peace and human rights and womens rights within the Muslim Community<\/a>, and she has an illustrious resume including being a report forewall street journal and teaching at my alma mater George Washington<\/a> journal. And joining us via skype is sarah carter from fox. She has written for the Washington Examiner<\/a> and the washington times, but now she publishes the exclusive original reporting on sarahacarter. Com. She has covered everything from the war in afghanistan and iraq to the security crisis on our southern border. So please, give a big round of applause for our wonderful panelists. So, if anyone knows how to keep america safe which is of course the topic of this panel, it is definitely azra and sarah. So i want to start with something important because i was 7 years old when the 9 11 terror attacks occurred and it is one of the biggest news events in the United States<\/a> that i remember, and was really affected by, and so for a vast majority of my life, we have been fighting the wars against islamic terror in afghanistan and iraq and of course theres been the attempts of the nation building by the bush administration, and id like you all to start to just speak about how this threat has grown over the years, because the Muslim Community<\/a> didnt used to be such a radical, and didnt have such radical sects and quite welcoming to the women, and freer than they are now, and so what are the pivotal moments in the Muslim Community<\/a> to lead us to this point. Thank you so much for having me here. I am so honored to be amongst you, and the invitation to come here. And so my experience i was a little older on september 11th, 2001, but it was and a ha moment like so many. I am a muslim born in india to a theologically conservative family, and so share a lot of values with many of you in the room. I wasnt allowed to go to the dance when i was in junior high school, when the senior class president asked me to go to the senior prom and i said that i cant, because i was not allowed the date. You know, we had the arranged marriage, and so there are many ideas religiously that align with the religious conservatives in america, but the great departure for my family and for me is this interpretation of the islam that preached violence. And this is going to be an interpretation that has been exported to our world over my lifetime as 1979 brought sunni and shia leaders to compete for the hearts and minds of muslims. So sarah will speak to you about what she has witnessed, but on that day on september 11th, 2001, i knew as a journalist and muslim i had to get on a plane and go to pakistan to speak about the war that is about to unleash. It is there that i had the critical moment, and my colleague at the wall street journal was the journalist danny pearl. Yeah. You all can feel just in that reaction, you know, the tragedy that had happened to danny. For some of the younger ones here, he was a journalist who was reporting, like all journalists, and he came to visit me in my home in karachi, pakistan, and from there he was kidnapped. He was beheaded by men who laid out their prayer rug after they had slain him, because they believed that they were doing something divine. My journey has been to stand up to that interpretation of islam that led to the killing of danny, because he was jewish and supported the right for israel to exist. And that is how the muslim reform was born in the United States<\/a> to try to put forward an interpretation of islam that believes in peace, womens rights and another really important principle of secular governance, because so many of the muslim extremists want their theocracy and the idea of the muslim supremacy to be the idea of governments, and so, yeah. And sarah, you lived in the middle east for some time, and you have seen a lot of this first hand, and how has this radical element ip filtrated what were once peaceful muslims . Well, first, thank you so much for having me here and being able to speak to the Steamboat Institute<\/a>. I wish that i could be there with the audience and azra who is a great friend and i have so much adoration for, because she is speaking a truth that we are not hearing enough from muslim women. I grew up in saudi arabia and i spent my formidable years in the kingdom from the time i was 6 years old until i started high school in the United States<\/a>. My father worked there as an american. I remember a kingdom of strict islamic law wahhabiism, and i remember traveling throughout, and like azra and in egypt and lebanon and the persian gulf, things were different. It was not this strict wahhabi law or the strict interpretation of the islamism that we were facing. Now, today, and i remember september 11th like i am sure that everybody else who lived through it, and it changed my life. Because at that point, just like azra, but that is when i decided to dedicate my life to journalism and to covering the war and to covering terrorism, and to covering the things that are the National Security<\/a> issues that affect our nation. I believed that because i had the experience that is what led me to it. So it changed my life completely, and changed my life forever, because, i spent so many of the last years of my life in the middle east and in south asia covering the war like azra. Look, what we are seeing today, and we have to understand this, these islamists are trying to divide us, and pit us against one another. And we need to listen to the reformers and people like azra and people like dr. Conta ahmed and women who are out there and others who are out there speaking about what is truly the essence of muslim, and being of muslim and it is certainly not that. And i want to wrap it up, because i want to get back to azra, but i have had the most extraordinary experiences with beautiful friends and warm and welcoming peoplek and i have also seen the face of pure evil. I dont know if people have seen the news today, but the press release has been released that two women in brooklyn and actually from queens, they pleaded guilty today in brooklyn to basically preparing and planning to build a bomb and distribute bombmaking instructions to followers. They are extremists. They are radicals, and they follow groups like al qaeda and Islamic State<\/a> and they actually had the intention of using a weapon of mass destruction or a woman in the United States<\/a>, and these are two women, two american women, and muslim women who have been radicalized, and so this is a very important discussion. I am happy to be here. I am hoping that azra and i can dispel some of the inaccurate information out there and get to the root of what is causing this rise in radicalism among some in the muse sim community, and w me can stop this and communicate and make a difference. How has radicalism made its way to the u. S. . We are seeing a rise in the domestic terrorism and in White Supremacy<\/a> and islamism, and i wonder how you see that making its way to the u. S. , and how is that ideology taking root where we value things like democracy and freedom and liberty. For me, i came from india and lived first in new jersey and lived in morgantown, West Virginia<\/a>, in the foothills of the appalachian mountains, and my father was a professor at West Virginia<\/a> university. So when it was a teen, i went for the annual ede party that marks the the end of ramadan, and normally we would all sit together in a room, and husbands and wives and families together. And then one year we were told as we were walking into the front, the women over there. And we were sent as women and girls into the little studio apartment that the graduate students lived in, and there, the men would bring the food that all of the women had cooked and leave it at the door, and knock on the door and run away. As if they were to look at us and turn to stone, because saudi students had come to campus, and they had brought with them suitcases of their korans, and their interpretation of is lam, and this wahhabiism that sarah is talking about. And so what has happened in america that is of such importance to all of you who are interested in the political system is that first the saudis and now the government of qatar and now the current government of turkey have funded muslim organizations in the United States<\/a> that believe in this islamism which is the ideology of political islam, and the idea of the muslim supremacy, and this is organizations that you might be familiar with like the council of American Islamic<\/a> relations and activists like linda swarsoir. And so they have taken it and brought it forward as an agenda item. And what comes to that is that any of you who care about pluralism is antisemitism. A very clear agenda to destroy the state of israel, and as the last Panel Discussed<\/a> now what we are seeing is the unmasking of ideas, right . We now know where people are espousing socialist ideas and saying it straight up, and now with the rise of rashid and representative tlaib, we are seeing the propaganda tour canceled by the Prime Minister<\/a> of israel. Because he knew in the agenda is destruction of israel. So that is the alarm bells that we want to raise with many of you that i know that you are aware of, but what has happened is that they have inserted themselves into the Democratic Party<\/a> platform. They have decided that liberal america and the left is the way that they are going to enter into american politics. This weekend, it is going to be a big muslim vote drive by all of the organizations. Their interest is to have rashid omar and tlaib to succeed. And the womens march which is found by linda sarzoar was supposed to bring awareness to the shariah law, and so how is this a government platform when it is antithetical to what they believe . Well, i could not have said it much more clearer. How does it happen . It happens slowly and with the ability of someone like ilhan omar or representative Rashida Tlaib<\/a> coming out to making statements, and you know, it is very difficult for people on the left and many on the right to stand up to them. Because the one thing that they are afraid of is the one thing that they will automatically throw back at anyone who criticizes them. You are antimuslim, and antiwoman, and you dont understand culture, and you dont understand where i come from, and you must be a racist and people are terrified of that. Especially in the age of political correctness. Right. So, a lot of times people hold back. They are afraid of asking question, and with this party, we saw what happened with nancy pelosi. She challenged them. You see what happens when anybody challenges Rashida Tlaib<\/a> and ilhan omar, but you can see what israel did. They said no way. You are not going to bring that here, and we know why you are here, and you support that movement that is so divisive and actually working closely with the palestinian terror organizations early on. You are not coming into israel. It was very difficult decision, i am sure, because they felt the wrath of that from other people across the globe, but israel understands where these two women were coming from. I interviewed the former ms. Iraq who is muslim and lives in the United States<\/a> now. At the age of 18, she actually volunteer and took on a job as interpreter for u. S. Forces in iraq, and became enamored by the United States<\/a> and what it stood for, and eventually came to the u. S. She was a refugee as well in syria for a period of time. She went straight out after ilhan omar saying that you do not represent me as a muslim woman, and i dont know if any of you saw the stories out there, but they had a really back and forth battle going on publicly, because she is trying to dispel what ilhan omar and Rashida Tlaib<\/a> are putting out there. They are saying they are the representation of the muslim women all across the globe, and they are not. There are muslim women all across the globe who are heroes and who are fighting this type of, i would say antiwoman movement that has been pushed forward so strongly within is lam, and just thinking of m lushgs malalla who stood up for freedom. And i know that azra has thought about this, because she was in the same region, but we as americans need to stand up for these women. And we need to stand up for people across the globe to fight for the same liberties and freedoms that we fought for the establish the country, and unfortunately the left does not do that. Instead of uplifting women they are not for omar ilhan or Rashida Tlaib<\/a>, and so we have to question them, and ask them what they believe and then stand up for the women all over the world who can back up the shift of the tide when it comes to the rise of islamism and terror. One of the things that you speak of a lot, azra, is what is the alternative of what is happening with islamism, and that is what your group seeks to do is to provide that alternative. What i was reminded of when sarah was talking about so eloquently of how israel reacted. I come from the muslim society, and we are an honor shame culture which is oftentimes the lever to intimidate people into silence, and so that is the goto for this Muslim Movement<\/a> wahhabi as i call them. They try to shame you into silence, so if you dare to question them, they will call you an islamophobe, but at some point we have to be shameless and stand with courage and conviction. I want to gently say that it is really important to allow in islam and muslim the same progress and reformation that has had happened in judeochristianism and other religion where is you go back to tradition and see with the clear eye what is working for the present day and what doesnt. So, islam is born in the 7th century, and so we are 700 years behind and give us a little bit of, you know, slack for the fact that we have all of the theocratic governments basically with the club over the heads of so many muslims, but what we are offering is a vision in the Muslim Reform Movement<\/a> for an interpretation of islam that is called the methuselahites who believed in Critical Thinking<\/a>, and the critical principle of Education System<\/a> in america. They believed in rational thought. Just like philosophical movements through history have been crushed and then reborn, they were crushed. That was when the gates of i ishtahad or Critical Thinking<\/a> were broken, and so now we are bursting therethe gates and we are so grateful that through a country like this that we can do this with relative safety and security. So, please, look at islam not as a monolithic interpretation, but one that has a continuum and we are not trying to, to do anything except bring principles with which islam was born that are the most progressive and able to live in the 21st century. I want to sneak in one more question before we turn it over to the audience for your questions. And this ties so much into immigration and the immigration policy, because when you are looking at what has happened in europe with the refugee crisis, and sweden for example, and attempted rain eed rape of gir to 20 up 20 , and other rapes up 25 , and men convicted of rape were foreign nationals and not native of sweden and so what can we learn of the policies that we are trying to craft to try to protect our borders. Sarah . This is a subject that means so much to me. I spent so much of my career in the u. S. mexico border and inside of mexico and Central America<\/a> and guatemala twice in the last year, and plan to returning shortly. There are so many lessons that we can learn. Lessons that we can learn over decades of having this same problem in crisis repeated over and over again. I could tell the audience, i listened back to some of my work in 2006 was on the radio or whether it was the stories i wrote in 2014 when there was a flood of undocumented children in the u. S. It sounded like i was talking today. The same crisis. This is a National Security<\/a> crisis at the border. It is not just about immigration, but the border is wide open and not just to people that we see coming from Central America<\/a> which we have not properly vetted or cant properly vet in time, because they dont have identifiers or any type of identification on them, but people from all over the world, and we have seen the increases of the people coming from as far as away as bangladesh, and congo, and while i was in guatemala there were a number of people who had come through basically from bangladesh as well as from africa, north africa through brazil up through colombia, and then eventually through guatemala. We dont know who these people are. We dont know what their intentions are. And unless they are in a database, we will have no idea what their intentions are, and i think that this is why the Trump Administration<\/a>, and in fact, i know this is why the Trump Administration<\/a> has made this such a top priority. Shut down the loophole and make sure that the people are properly vetted. It is a really difficult challenge, however, when the focus from the left or from others is to say that, well, this is antiimmigrant. This is a racist action or you are not appropriately taking care of children, and we should let them go, and we should end the settlement agreement, and we should release them after 20 days. We have a serious crisis on our hand, because that border has been broken for decades. The time i have spent with intelligence officers, people are terrified. They even say that if the American People<\/a> really understood what was happening down here, i think that all of them would want something to happen. But we are not getting that information and there is rhetoric out there, and for me, it is a major priority and a major part of my work, and also looking at how that border is actually a National Security<\/a> risk for us. We know that people have attempted to cross the border before that are wanted, people who have been identified as belonging to a terrorist organization, and we know that the dea and the department of defense, that our border patrol, and the department of home lala security and they are all working cohesively with the partners to the south are trying to together to stop the flow of people coming into the country to do us harm. But it is almost impossible, because tluz ahere are so many people, and we miss so many. And apprehensions, and those are the people that we have thave s, but what about all of the people that we didnt catch . What about the contraband that came through that we did not catch or inspect . That is what the people have to realize. As for europe and ill make it very quick, as for europe, we can see what is happening in the european union, and what is happening to european nation with the flow and it is becoming very difficult. It is difficult for countries like italy as well and other nations which economically cant sustain it, but they have to take in so many, so many people flooding into their nation. We have to look at this as a comprehensive solution. It is not just one thing, and it is not just building a wall. It is not negotiating a third world country issue, but it is comprehensive issue, and ensuringing that the democrats are involved. People can politicize this all they want. But what is going to happen if something or someone comes across that border and conducts a terrorist attack in the country, and who is going to be sitting at that september 11th commission, right, hearing, and how are they going to explain themselves when for decades we have been reporting and crying out that there is a National Security<\/a> threat at the u. S. Mexican Border<\/a> . That is the question. Thank you, sarah. I would add that when we talk about the radical muslim wahhabi and the immigration issue, they have made themselves a key part of this coalition to have open borders, to pick president trumps policies as a muslim ban, and they are intent on promoting the democratic agenda when it comes to immigration. What they are not interested in doing is forming the expectations that have been surrendered in fact in europe that have created the kind of the situations that you have talked about related to crime and sexual assaults, and that is the simple process of integration. I came to this country when i was 4 years old, and it was nancy drew who was my best friend. I, too, love country music. Because what mountaineer wouldnt. Right. And so that is i think that the challenge for all of us. I met some immigrants that were Asylum Seekers<\/a> in greece this summer and i introduced them to an exhibit that i had done related to my friend danny pearls story, and one of them literally wore a baseball cap with an ak47 on it, and that is like a trigger for me, because it is the gun of the militants in south asia and pakistan and i told them the story of to dannys kidnapping and murder, and this young man who i had suspicion about initially had tears in his ice, because this tragedy spoke to him also. And this is the group that we need to integrate. People are coming into the country, and it is on all of our shoulders then to find a way that the pathway to american identity is in sync with our values. My father was most moved when he was a student at kansas state, because he went to a church and he watched the car wash, and at the car wash the pastor was there with the teenager to wash cars to raise money for the church. It is in those simple values that we can preserve the incredible fabric that is america. Great. So we will go ahead to turn it over to the audience for questions. I see the young man back here raising his hand very quickly, so we will let him go first. Good afternoon. Hello. Thank you for the young man. I appreciate it and i thought that you were talking to somebody behind me. Phyllis chezler was one of the founders of the modern feminist movement with Gloria Steinham<\/a> and that group. For the last decade to two, she has been ostracized of the feminist community because of two issues, the support of the only Democratic State<\/a> in the middle east israel, and secondly, because she is speak pg out against the treatment of women in so many islamic countries. Could you both speak to the deafening silence of the american feminist community about what is happening to their sisters in islamic countries. Yes. I am very well familiar with phyllis and her contributions to important issues from the honor killings that are, again, a reflection of the honor shame culture in which i was born. What has happened with the feminist movement is exactly what has happened with the womens march, because it has been hijacked by women Muslim Leaders<\/a> who want absolutely no conversation about the womens rights issue in islam, because they know it is our achilles heel. They know that if you dare to touch that issue, you are going to end up with an indefensible argument related to segregation and lack of equal rights, andda they have, and they have completely abandoned to me women and in so many muslim countries like the women in iran who want to simply have the right to feel the wind in their hair. Such a simple idea and when you are going outside as women, and when you are going outside as men and see a woman being able to just walk freely, this is the feeling that i have is, wow, do you know how amazing an experience this is, because it is denied millions of women, and unfortunately the feminist Movement Today<\/a> wants to say that you are an islamophobe if you discuss these issue, but i say stand up with moral courage, and challenge them and feel no shame raising these important issues. Exactly, azra, and thank you for such an important question. It is look, this is not about churl. This is about human rights and dignity. If any of the women actually cared enough about their fellow women they would be outraged and stand up against it. So there is strength in numbers and when i hear someone like ilhan omar say that i come from a different cultural place than you, and i know, because i have traveled through the region, and like azra, i spent my childhood in countries completely different with cultures completely different than my own, but this is not about churlchur culture, but it is about human rights and dignity. In afghanistan, i spent so much time with young girls in villages or covering stories and i will never forget that there was one little girl whose mother actually had an opioid addiction. And there was an affluent female doctor, and she saw me and she saw this doctor and she saw us and then tears started to come out of her eyes, and she was 11 or 12 years old. I asked the doctor to ask why she is crying. And she said, because i will never have a chance to be a doctor or somebody like you. And i said, what do you mean. She said, because my father is forcing me to marry an elder in the village, and ill never ever go to school. And my heart just broke. She wasnt happy about that. This wasntthat. This was not a cultural great moment for her. Her village had been dominated by the taliban for a long time. This little girl felt she had no one to defend her. And when you think about this and you think about even what misty rock did when when he stood beside and took a picture and defiantly said to sir okays government and i stand by israeli neighbor and i will be israels friend and hopefully to both of our nations. Nasa really brave thing to do. That is saying that each one of us can do. We shouldnt turn our heads when people are suffering. And because we come from an extraordinary nation we should make sure that that light shines everywhere so that women get the courage like in iran and other places like saudi arabia to stand up and fight for their own dignity. Another question. We have one here. Asra youre a cofounder of the Muslim Reform Movement<\/a>. Due to chronic abrogation of the peaceful messages from the koran on mohammads live the sunna replaced with the later messages of hatred and disgust for all muslims. If all the things many see about muslim were removed nothing would be left. How can we reform islam if getting rid of all the bad, like female genital mutilate las vegas, rape, pedophilia, all the divide laws in the sharia, getting rid of all that leaves nothing left of islam. Thank you for that great question. It just reminds me of a tour we want to start. Because when ilhan omar was asked by a muslim activist about her position on female genital mutilatation, which is the cutting of a girls clitoris so she dont feel orgasm, its appropriate to talk about here she yelled at the woman and said, thats an appalling question. And i refuse to answer it. And we want to start a tour in the Muslim Reform Movement<\/a> of honoring islam by asking the appalling questions. This is a really critical question that you raise about the violent verses and the violent chapters. So, you know, when the question was asked, it startwood the assumption of abrogation which abrogation which most you understand which means a later verse usurps, right an earlier verse. And so when islam was founded it was in the city of mecca. And there were more peaceful verses is the argument. And then later when the profit mohamed moved to medina and was at war there were the violent verses. There is a couple of fundamental ideas, that fancy word named hermann utices, the study of sacred texts. Aftd day in the Muslim Reform Movement<\/a> is that we do not we do not agree that abrogation is the the kind of analysis with which we approach the chapters and verses in the koran. Thats a critical idea. And so we we deny the fundamental premises of that, like, shuffle that youve got to do. And the second one is that we deny the idea that you have to take each chapter and verse literally. And so this is something that christians have had to deal with also related to the chapter and verse in the bible. And so sometimes we might look at a verse more metaphorically. And so ill give one example is that in the seventh century one of the sexist interpretations was that a girl got less inheritance than her brother. So it was considered progressive because a girl was a daughter was finally getting inheritance that she was otherwise denied. But in that spirit of progressiveness then we say okay now its the 21st century and a daughter receives equal to a son. Women were never witnesses to men. And so then it became that two women equal one man as a witness. Which is not fair, right . But in the seventh century it was progressive. What we say then is moving with the progressive spirit, today one woman equals one man as as witness in crime. So on the violent verses, what we also do is we say that they were revealed at that time when mohamed was fighting with the tribes and it was basically the battle plan for the war at the time. But its not for all time. And so essentially it means, yes, ripping pages out of the koran, which could put a target on backs if we put that forward as an idea. But thats the but having that kind of Critical Thinking<\/a> is essential to having progress. And thats how we handle what we will be left with in terms of the text and the teachings. So unfortunately were about out of time now. But i know wed love to dig into this there is so much more to cover in terms of making sure we are protecting American Values<\/a> and our citizens. But i just want to thank you to our wonderful panelists and the Steamboat Institute<\/a> for putting on this important panel. Thank you. 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