I am dean of Georgetown University and i am delighted to be here to introduce her to afternoon panels. In keeping with the objective of the conference which is to connect leading thinkers of the global south and north, i am particularly delighted Georgetown University is a proud cosponsor of this event. You heard earlier this week from one of our students road scholar she is many respects representative almost 500 students for more than 70 countries to enroll in her bachelors in Foreign Service part of the discussion on georgetown discussions are urgently needed. The divisions were witnessing globally are more pronounced and disconcerting than any. At least in my lifetime. We are beset by wars and bear witness to unspeakable atrocities in the gaza, the west bank, ukraine, yemen, institutions included many elite universities in this country are on the receiving end of sustained and im sad to say effective attacks. Some problems facing humanity cannot and will not be sold by anything single state actor to many of the people we most urgently need to come to the table often do not show up. Or if they do they talk down to others or ask others. Ironically at the same time not enough people are seriously communicating we live in a world that avalanche of words. They cloak our screens words it often empty or toxic. The Communication Technology of today make it possible for people on opposite sides of the world to connect instantly. It we are more fractured, polarized and disconnected than ever. The midst of all the ceaseless talking of one another we lost the ability to listen. Desperately need either to learn or relearn that still we just dostart listening to people who historically have been denied a voice such as the palestinians the struggle for liberation has become synonymous with the imperative to feed the people of the world this is why we are here today. Not to rehash what is wrong but to figure out how to get things right. How to put things back on track or in track for the first time. We are here to foster what pope francis calls a culture of encounter. Constructive conversation peaceful equitable world for which we yearn become a reality unless and until we embrace a new framework for engagement and discussion. Its built in 1990s not with the rest of the world and not for the entire world. Lift up of the conversation now has our attention which is why we must create new spaces for Global Dialogue. Spaces that accommodate rising powers and the voices of the global south who is you will hear shortly may be able to help avert escalating tensions between the u. S. And china for example. Assuming the superpowers begin to value the perspective of course but we need new frameworks to spaces in more inclusive conversations but spaces that also accommodate people whose idealism is on but anxiety over the political economic, social and environmental futures are understandably accused. We need to give greater voice to each of its students and encourage them to Work Together across borders that have positive change which is exactly what were doing at georgetown. To engage with the world from within the world to study global phenomena in history for the global perspective. The liberal world class education to future leaders who otherwise would not access it. The exchange of ideas between the faculty and students indo hot in washington d. C. Encompasses both campuses enables truly globally minded mission thats consistent with the universities just what values of caring for each other and for the world we inhabit. Our campus in delhi expanding global initiatives which include establishing a presence in indonesia is more difficult today than it perhaps ever was. I am honored to join our faculty and students as we seek to learn from more attentively listen to each other. And now to our panels this afternoon for our first panel with solidarity will examine search of nationalism around the world. How under cuts efforts to forge a vibrant society the new approaches that must be adopted to foster transnational solidarity and action. Our second panel cold or 2. 0 the view from the rest of the world will explore disastrous implications for the International Community of the cold war between the u. S. And china escalates good panel will consider how other countries that National Institutions advance National Movements might attempt to avert a u. S. china confrontation. So at this point i would like to invite who will be in a conversation with our moderator New York Times opinion columnist to come to the stage and kick off our first panel. Thank you very much. Great crowd. Thank you so much for coming out. When incredibly esteemed group. Their heart out at 3 15 p. M. So absolutely ruthless tutorial moderator. Keep the trains running on time. Already down one. [laughter] it is incredibly fitting were having this conversation about Global Solidarity at a moment when the entire country is seized with astonishingly powerful protest movement led by young people in solidarity with the nation in the global south i would argue is the most unique of our solidarity and that is palestine. I spent much of last week on campus with the students attending protests. Hanging out with them while they are waiting for their classmates to get out of jail. It has been a really extraordinary thing to witness. I definitely want to hear what you will have to say about that. But to step back a little bit the early years of the millennium, they promised and some might say threatens, a moment of global convergence the technological age that is going to accelerate the borders and globalization was going to make assault richer and happier. This technological can do spirit. This relied on a continuation of the trajectory that was set by the global north and the global south had little say in. And in many ways it not work for the global south even as the global south was condescendingly being ushered upward on quote unquote development and prosperity supposedly more modern a vision of how the global north had grown rich. We all know because youve written so eloquently in various ways about it, what actually happened and how it all came crashing down. There are couple themes im going to introduce each of your couple big themes on every inch of top of mind in this conversation. One that i sense and all of your work is a brief report refusal of binaries. Ideas of hardin separation. The idea that things can be both and that the theme i would really like to explore. The other is an abiding belief in the privacy of human agency. That are emergent all trite in our various fields to keep these places of interconnectedness. Might real hope is we can focus on what is the glue that we can emphasize that brings us to greater solidarity and what are the solvents that are dissolving the bonds between us had a weak pushback against them . So next to me i do not to lose a minute of our conversational time. Professor of social sciences at the university of buenos aires shes a fabulous, political activist of political theorist. She has written many books on many topics including liberalism, feminism, and so on. And very excited to talk with you about your work. Sit in the boat hes a polyp map a and Ranjit Hoskote is a theorist and the curator who has worked, deeply influential and centers on complex presence of cultural pluralism. He has written many books, i wont bore you by naming all of them but im very excited to talk about our relationship to history among many other things. Kohei saito is a contemporary marxist thinker, his work centers on questions of growth, questions of climate and how we can start to think about what a future beyond growth might look like. His influential book slowdown, the degrowth manifesto was published earlier this year in english. A huge bestseller in japan. Peter beinart is a professor of journalism and Political Science at a colleague whose work i am proud to appear alongside from time to time. It is fair to say that peter, whether as a teacher or editor at large, a commentator, has emerged as a really essential voice to explore ideas and paths forward in a situation that feels utterly hopeless and someone ive turned too many times. Then we have joel hellman of the school of Foreign Service at georgetown. More importantly, he is also someone who has worked all across the globe, in poverty alleviation, the world bank, conflict moderation, resolution in kenya. We have neighbors in delhi and rubber ducks together and someone who has a lot of really fascinating things to say about the crucial role america can play, a role not of domination but of collaboration. I really need to shut up now. Ive talked for a long time. Lets dive in. I want to start with you, veronica. I would love to hear you reflect on what we are seeing on University Campuses today. You obviously helped, were a major part of the protests in 2019, half a Million People came out. Walk us through what is required to build those coalitions for Movement Like that who have that size and power and what are your reflections for the students who are out there marching today . Thank you for the presentation. It is important for us. Its very powerful, that image of the students in the campus protesting. It is a powerful call against the genocide, a powerful image and also i think nowadays the universities, political activism in argentina, a huge manifestation for Public Education against the current government, and he wants to defend and catch all those for public universities and in france there are other protests at the universities so the youth activism at the universities, it is an antiintellectual protest. For me, very interesting issue to see a politicization, and how we empower our universities and how we build and expand our alliance because in argentina it is very important how political activism at universities and the main issue is how to build alliances with other sectors and to produce a very inclusive political movement. I think that is also a challenge. All the calculations, you have your protests, your demand, and the political challenge is to produce a political translation of our struggles and try to connect and try to produce a dimension of political demands so for me it is a vital thing to see the uprising in the campus here and a way to rethink what is knowledge nowadays, what is the function of knowledge, what is the function of social media to translate those images in political messages in other places and how we produce a connection between very different landscapes. This idea of thinking about linkages and ways to bring people together, feminism has that global dimension. What of one of the things about your work, you work a lot with the past and we are living in a time of deep obsession with in the past. We have revenge movements on the right in india, really in most of these cases a fictionalized past that never really existed and it strikes me that at the core of your work is an effort to recast our relationship with the past and use it to help us understand the present but also loosen the bonds that the past might hold on us. Talk a little bit about that and how it might apply to the struggles we are talking about today. Thank you for that. I would like to say how amazed and excited i am to be here in the us at this particular time. I never thought i would see anything like this. I belong to a generation that regretted not having been around in 1968. Sdf, students were democratic society, we inherited from the generation that preceded us. And to see the scene of revolution playing out in this way here in the hearts of the world order has been so you story in many ways. Among many other things it reminds us, crafting a political location is not only thinking about how we belong but also about, very importantly what we stand against. And to do it in this transnational, trans regional way to me is truly hopeful. It reminds me for instance of the kinds of worldviews we grew up with in south asia that have to do with nonalignment but i will get to that an amendment. I want to say what we are seeing around the world today in terms of the rise of fascism, or refer we see these autocratic totalitarian regimes that want to work from a very narrow and monopolistic view, singular view of the past to my mind only plays up and dramatizes a fundamental apology in any nationstate, the modern nation state as we all know this and sometimes forget it, the modern nationstate stand on the ground of exclusion. Exclusion and expulsion and i think rather than work with negative, destructive, working out of effective notion of what tradition is i found it very useful, how do you bear witness, how do you expressly retreat memories that complicate your sense of who you are, complicate your sense of what your past is. In our own case in india because weve inherited a particular colonial cartography, we cut ourselves off from replenishing connections we had through indian net networks through east africa and all of that, this is one example, to seek these connections out because it helps us to get away from historical narratives. That is part, this leads me to think about figures like a border crosser, crucial figures we need to keep in mind but i also want to think of a more proximate temporal horizon. Thinking of postcolonial visions of collaboration across borders that had a much more optimistic and redemptive narrative to offer us, thinking of all these events of the 1950s, the affirmation of Solidarity Congress in cairo and the emergence of the nonaligned difference. This was characterized particularly here as giving up of the responsibility of standing with the free world against the soviet bloc. It was really about not losing the hard won freedom of the anticolonial struggle and make our own way in the world and seek out our own destiny. We have to draw on those histories too and strikes me as im speaking that speaking of the global south as postcolonial. Empires that have lost their colonies live both conceptually and in material terms for the outcomes of loss of empire, equally involved in this enterprise. I would like us all to think together about this common predicament and to see how they process this. I am getting to the point of anecdotes as you can see, when i think of my generation which came of age in the 18th and 19th drew on. We were inspired and informed by replenishing forms of pedagogy that came to us from latin america. Thinking strongly of the oppressed and Critical Society so i want us to think of how these circulations from below, if you will, are still important, how do we recover them, continue with them . I will leave it there but take up an experimental radical redemptive pedagogy as a way of dealing with many of our present questions. I would love to come to that and to the Nuclear Fallout of that imperial experience. I would love to hear you talk about, all of us have a fantasy of limitless growth. Help us understand why it is a fantasy and how protectionist marxism and late capitalism running around in this particular moment, one of the most exciting and challenging ideas in your work is the decoupling of abundance from growth. Talk about how we move beyond the 0sum of the neoliberal models . I talk about it in the last few days and you will be bored to hear the same thing over and over and thank you for people coming to this Global Dialogue because it is George Washington day and i would love to sorry. Georgetown day. Georgetown day today. I would love to join but i had to come today because i didnt come here today. Because i actually participated in demonstrations with the students for the palestinian people, and these students at George Washington university and stayed for a couple hours, changed my perception of the dubai which is the topic of our discussion. I want to talk about it. When i talk about the context of this, global north is always associated with the cost of people in global south which leads to part of the divide and that is why the global north needs a different idea of abandonment and so on and so on which kind of affirms the divide is between global north and south or allocated in the divide between the us and russia, the us and china, the divide is outside or projected somewhere outside but that perception of the divide functions like ideology in the sense of hiding the true divide within the us and this divide within the us is associated with republicans and democracy and right wing fascism might come to the us. It is not particular to the us. It is everywhere in europe. Yesterday, the student protests and arresting those students, came to my conclusion that the divide is actually within our own groups because after the president of columbia university, ordering to arrest their own students which is a very different kind of accident that is going on, white woman professor of the university, getting arrested, this is really different kind of police action, not like black people getting arrested by the order of donald trump. Those people with whom i usually have Great Respect ordering to arrest students and do something against those students who are in a peaceful manner arguing, demanding a ceasefire or Something Like that. These are the basic ideas of democracy, human rights, diversity, these are ideas i really endorse and that is why i came to the us as an undergraduate student, to study those ideas because i thought the us was much better place than japan where things are more comparative. I wanted to come to the us to study about all things but after 20 years it seems democracy in the us is in crisis but not because of trump. This is something really new that we have to think about because otherwise countries like russia and china, say this is a double standard, democracy doesnt exist and so on. This is not something that we want to do. The insufficiency of democracy and diversity and other kinds of concepts like justice and human rights. This is universal ideas must be preserved. We cannot have some sort of cynicism so in order to do this we need to see it in a different way. In this sense, i wanted yesterday to express my solidarity with those students who are drawing to bring out a true universality instead of rejecting that kind of idea of universal freedom or simply being satisfie