Night, the light was on. Americas in the war. Speculated that touches so much . Because we knew we were going to lose it. Stomach what did that mean for you in hungary . I did not cry then. How old are you . Eighteen . I was 18 yes. With that interview the late author john lucas in depth it was born 20 years ago. Since 2000, over 230 leading nonfiction and fiction authors of our time have appeared on in depth. Alice walker, Colson Whitehead, bob woodward, Neil Degrasse tyson, george will, just to name a few. So over the next three hours our goal is to review the last 20 years of indepth. But also to ask you a couple of questions, here they are. Whos your favorite indepth gas . What book are you reading now . And who is your favorite non fiction author . And then as we will be talking about her will be showing a video from the past 20 years as well. Heres how you can dial in on this 20th anniversary of indepth. 202 theory code 7488200 for those of you in the mountains and east and central time zones. 202 7488201 if you live in the mountain and pacific time zones. And you can text in what your thoughts are as well. 202 7488903. Again text number only 202 7488903. Please include your name and your city if you would. Also, on social media booktv for facebook, twitter an instagram you could also make a comment on those platforms. So well begin taking those calls and just a minutes. Now john lucas was the first gasper that was february 6th of 2000 per that same year in 2000, richard rhodes, William F Buckley junior, joan didion milton freedman, steven ambrose, and arthurs lessons are junior, all appeared. Corvo dolls were the guests, here was a portion. The heart of an aristocracy are the schools. And use the example of your daughter in the example of bush who went over to andover and yale. I wouldve gone to harvard if id not chosen the army instead. The schools are what control the opinion off the children of the rich and or powerful. I had a stepbrother who is going to inherit a lot of money. And he was sent to groton. That is where groton st. Marks in solon schools. And then for those who will be rich to make them into not only gentlemen scholars the best values. Its how and opinion is formed they know if you send to groton but they are going to get in the way of political training. Their view of the t world, i belong to the ruling class. I have a stepbrother. But im not going to inherit anybody. So i am sent to ecuador which is for the bright boys of the ruling class who eventually work for the rich boys and who will become judges, senators, editors of the New York Times. Many fields are open to us, bankers. We are the apparatchiks, not properly speaking except by birth. A member of the ultimate class. Thats how they continue it. Theres always been a move in england where as you point out , they know about the upper classes and were not told, we are the most intelligent upperclass ive ever seen or at least overall they are. Nobody knows were there. They own the newspapers, the newspapers are not going to give the gameer away. Who really owns what, who really controls what . Who controls opinion . And to be there and never be named, they have done marvelous works. But nothing really gets through to the people at large. And so they go on and on. And there are others by and large is a close corporation. Corbett all passed away in 2012 rated books include the United States and lincoln. For the next three hours were taking your calls on these topics. What you reading . What is your favorite indepth and who is your favorite Nonfiction Author question or 202 is area code 7488200 for those of in the east and central time zones. 202 7488201 if you live in the mountain pacific time zones. You can text in your answer as well include your first name and the city 202 7488903. While it was in 2001 that fiction author Toni Morrison appeared. She is Pulitzer Prize winning author of beloved. Here is a little bit from Toni Morrison. How do you get inside the psyches of these people . Difficult. But the actors and actresses use if you have a make it specific before you realized you want to be ander that persons head if you are on stage. To wear the clothes, where the shoes, the way that person would. So you have to enter or project and know the way they parked their hair, what kind of soap they would wear, what food they dont like. They tried to imagine all of those things. And that works for me. I can suspend the characters that way. Whether going to have lunch with them or not is something very different. But you have to love them for the moment of their portrayal. Whether they are women, old, young, children what have you. Think they know what theyre supposed to answer. Or in paradise to hear about the people who walked all that difference to get to town summer turned away by black people, who it also enslaves like them them. And they were not welcome e there. I feel i can know what that story is about pretty sort of know the journey. Now i have to find out who iso going to work that out for me. Margaret garner i did not to know too much about her, what she looked like et cetera. I wanted to inventor. And then i sort of put them together. They are never fully realized immediately. Coddling and stroking, personal introductions. Anything i can do to get them to speak and trust me. And along with Toni Morrison in 2001, norman also. Toni morrison was on in february. James mcpherson, shelby foote, Richard Brook heiser, David Halberstam and David Mccullough also appeared in 2001. Now just one note when it came to Richard Brook heiser we started the show. But the war in afghanistan started that day. So we had to cut it short. We brought him back for a later date. He is one of the few that have ever appeared on the program twice. Mark in kansas city, missouri. Which of those three questions a joint answer . Favorite author . Favorite indepth guest . My favorite authors mary roach. Ive got most of her books. Is water and juice on indepth . Yes. Ive also replayed it on your website a couple of times. I like the way that a lot of her books have the one word title. But i have even emailed her and she emailed me back. She was a very good guest. Very good author. Alright thank you for calling and peerless talked to david in louisville, kentucky. David good afternoon. Good afternoon. Thank you for indepth. I went to answer the question about one of my readings. I am reading a book called twilight of the gods by ian w told. It talks about the conclusion of the american effort against japanese in world war ii. We recently had the 75th anniversary of the j day. I find it to be an excellent book. We have covered him on book tv. Did you see when he appeared . Yes i have, yes. It was anxiously awaiting the third volume of his trilogy. Now argue, is it world war ii that attracts you . Yes. Specifically these pacific theater. Why . Well because of the notoriety of the pearl harbor attack. The surprise that it garnered. And just the story, how it was a difficult task, the japanese had all of the advantages early on. It took quite an effort for us to become victorious. Thank you for calling and david, louisville, kentucky. Sometimes we take indepth on the road. In september 2016 that we went to Hillsdale College and author, is right before president ial election at that point. From an audience of students as part of his presentation but. Is there any way we can combat this socialism is a utopia that the left is promoting and people of my generation. Because you and i both know they are systematically disestablishing the america we love. To back thank you such a nice thing to hear from a millennial. Its exactly what is happening read that is factual, not opinion. They are on doing what the founders meant to do. But there is one simple answer across side from all the other arguments i gave. Socialism bankrupts country sprayed this country will be bankrupt. And the bill will follow you. Frankly i have no pity for you. Because your generation votes democrat. So therefore, since i am a big believer in consequences, that is what children should learn. Hi ive zero pity for millennials who vote democrat. For when the tab for the debt that they believe in by voting democrat comes to their generation. I will perhaps be gone. Ill have my fine attire mark recounts. It has no effect on me. But it will go bankrupt, just like greece, just like portugal, just like italy, just like spain, just like venezuela. And we will too. I we will be a borderless country. The borderless country just the schengen rules ofe the European Unions they dont believe in boarders because they dont believe a National Identity per therell be country called the United States between canada and mexico and it will not be any different from canada or mexico. That is the leftic stream. And so this will all happen to youn. You read about a country that existed but you helped dismantle because you, thanks to the indoctrination you got in high school and in college, voted for. That is my message to millennials. A non pixie message. And that was Dennis Prager in september of 2016 on indepth. By the way all these programs are available to watch in their entirety. Lets talk to carol and prince george, virginia. Carol good afternoon, which of those three questions you and to answer . The one i went to answer is about my favorite interview on indepth. It was the year that indepth did the year of fiction. I am a super fan of his. I thought it was such an engaging, involved interview. I just appreciate it so much. And you still read him of the Washington Post . I do. Every time i get a little lonel lonely, i go on the archives and watch the interview on indepth again. I have read, all but one of his books. I follow him wherever i can. I think he is such an amazing, careful, precise fellow author. Whether it is fiction or reporting. Stomach is that the topic of National Security that interests you . Yes. Particularly interested in intelligence and the work of the cia. I dont have any professional background in it. I am a retired lawyer, i have always been fascinated by it. He does a job dispassionately, but respectfully relating with the work of the cia and other intelligence agencies are in terms of protecting as nationally. In checking your Foreign Policy pursued back thank you for calling in. We will look at some of those fiction authors that we did, i believe it was in 2018, that we did a full year of fiction authors purdue look at some of those as we go. If you cant get on the phone lines into text in your message or social media at your message, text number 202748, 8903. Please include your first name and your city. And just remember booktv is or handle for facebook, twitter, an instagram. Shelby phone was one of the authors who appeared in 2001. In fact we visited his home in memphis. E on that desk there you use that pen we talked about before. That is the kind that used to be imposed offices. And absolute nightmare. But its an odd thing to do. I dont worry about that. I was lucky, i found a whole bunch of dusty old stationary shop just down. And i bought myself a lifetime supply. What kind of paper to write on . That is a big problem. I dont type right paper. It doesnt have ink the weight used to. What is this i have in my hand . That is the menus good for shiloh. And at the end ofre each day i do the final corrective draft and put ithe on the stack and then type it up for printer prints back is this the original or copy . Thats a final days copy each day i would do it i done that day and end the day my making that final copy. You got up on the shelf there, how many other of your original . Shiloh, county is not up yet, its my sixth novel. You have any idea how valuable those are . No. Spare equity going to do with them . Cynically them to my son. One of the things you have there on the back of your desk . They are favorites of mine. Myself as an old confederate scout, was when i was about 11 years old all of my friends, doesnt force, robert e lee, grant, tobin. Somewhere i read he was when your favorites. Absolutely. Who was it . An irish immigrant. And i was interested in the military because he had done a hitch in the british army as a corporal. He was killed in franklin in the last year of the war. A really good close up there on the board so folks can see it not from such a distance. You mentioned him even earlier. He was born four years into ithe century. He says modern today is when he was writing. He had a tremendous influence on writing a short story. All short story writers influence for the good. He had, you cannot explain it. We used to try to figure how he does these things. We could never figure out how they did it he is so good. And shelby foote passed away four years after that interview in 2005. Gayle text in from dubuque, iowa. Im currently reading cast the origin of our discontent by isabel wilkerson. I highly recommend it she write writes. Isabel wilkerson has now appeared on our q a program on sunday night. All available booktv. Org. Just type in her name in the search function at the top of the page. Hued from ashland, virginia. Good afternoon hugh welcome to book tv. Thank you so much for taking my call. I was prompted to call in by the earlier call from the woman who was looking at the Government Agencies like the cia. Ive had quite a bizarre life and would love to share my name if i can because i am a vietnam era veteran changing the world for my dining room table as its proclaimed to the heartbeat of america printed also a whistleblower to wall street article that can be seen on the internet present written up it triggered an investigation that eventually led to the resignation of the speaker of the house. I also had some interaction highlevel cia operative who offered a book, the kgb the eyes of russia from harry rasinski and had some very interesting synchronicitys that i had discovered with him and a lot of other things but even share common background with the president , it will support a president in office that unite the people of the country properly. But im not going on the ego trip the president is on. I will screech reach out to the last day to unite the people of this country properly. The secret Government Agencies have to be more transparent and empower the people with the freedoms we have base effect are it was anywhere that book you wanted to recommend . Titled the kgb, the eyes of russia. Offered by harry rosinski. Sven okay is sir. John and hutchinson, kansas good afternoon. Yes. I have got a question. That you or somebody can answer. On tv i watch and in the newspapers everywhere they talk about russia interfering in our elections. China interfering with our elections. And this goes on and on and on. But no one says a word. They all say foreign governments should not interfere in any way, shape, form pretty go to channel eight which is our local. Host john going to interrupt you here. Return that book today in the 2h anniversary of indepth. Anything along in the book world you want to comment on . Caller no, no i listened to Television Read the newspaper. Host thank you so we appreciate your call. Brent in new york, good afternoon fred what are you reading . Who is your favorite author . Jeff a favorite indepth program of the past 20 years . Caller ive been reading this book by, cant review the authors name. Dooey beats truman, it is a really good book. See what is at the new one the a. J. Bain . Is that the author . Yes thats the one. Has a good one out on dooey defeats truman. This question is about the favorite author have to be nonfiction . What if youve got a favorite fiction author you like to bring up goahead. It will be thomas berger. Hes not real well known but he wrote one novel he wrote 18 or 20 novels. Hes only known really is not so wellknown because he has worked in different genres. It is there all fiction. He also wrote a takeoff on the king arthur legend. Hes known for his grasp of the english language. Nobody writes like the guy. Host where you get your books to mark library . Online . Books or online . Online and in the library. Thomas berger they said his staff is proves that fiction is stranger than truth. Im simply that writes the guy like him pretty godly site when said thats if you like this author ac thomas berger, tom dileos name cannot buy think that was his name. So i got a book by tom and skolnick white noise, and a couple of other books. Host is in a specific genre . Caller you mean. [inaudible] stuart intelligence, National Security, suspense . Caller i dont even know. I started to read and it is unreadable. The point is nobody writes this like this guy, thomas berger. Host alright thanks for calling in. In 2000 to our guests included cornell west, tom clancy, peggy noonan, robert carroll, dell hooks, David Herbert donald, edwin morris, george will, and bob woodward. In our first guest of 2003 was Phyllis Schlafly and here is a portion of her talk. Well, you remember kennedy was assassinated in late november of 63. And i was at that time the president of an Illinois Federation of republican women. I had a whole series of republican speeches scheduled beginning in december. And it just seemed inappropriate to give the standard anti Democratic Party speech. So i worked up a new speech called how politicale conventions are stolen. Starting with the first week in december of 1963. And then i gave that speech all january and february. And it told the story of how the rockefeller establishment have outmaneuvered the conservatives considered the domination to lead tours like thomas dooey. And by march i realized i could put it in a book and influence the convention. So it was a whirlwind that year. Yp words you write it . On my typewriter at home. And then of course i published it. Go to a publisher takes them two years to get their act together. And we needed it and 64. That is a little publisher i set up to produce this book. And so i sent it off to the printer in march. And 25000 copies arrived in my garage on april the 30th. And i typed out a one page letter that said dear friends, please read this book today. And by enough copies to send to your delegates to the 1964 Republican National convention. And i typed it on my typewriter. I typed a stencil in those days. I had at mimeograph machine in the basement. I went down the basement, put the stencil on the round thing and ground out 100 letters. I sent 100 letters out its the only advertising i ever did. One of those letters was read by a friend in california who called up and said, i read it. I am going to a convention this weekend, thats united republicans of california, airfreight me out 5000 copies. And so it loaded them up in my station wagon, took them downn to the airport, sent them out ther there. And that we can bid statewide distribution california. In the california primary was the first week in june. And we sold over a half million copies between the first of may in the first of june in california. Steven accorded the title come from . Barry goldwater use the title. The minute i heard it i knew that was it. Host and guss calling in from chicago, good afternoon gus. Boy do you reading . Who is your favorite author . Your favorite indepth program of the past 20 years . Caller hi peter good to be on the program. Technically and reading two books. Im reading an illustrated guide to the Mueller Report from idw publishing, Shannon Wheeler and steve do and are the authors. And illustrators but am also reading a fiction novel at a snails pace called raptor from gary its basically the life and times of an orphan during the early viking barbarian. Paid its fiction a really good. Our favorite author regarding nonfiction is maxim blumenthal. Ive met him personally he has a nice gentleman. His books have sort of a narrative that is similar to reading fiction or anything sensational. That kind of nice case thats not boring. He is probably one of the best authors regarding criticism of government insiders and the middle east. I highly recommend to anybody. My favorite indepth, its like asking about your favorite child. I would say my favorite is chris hedges, a great journalist, great author, i love his show. I forgot the name right now but he is a good interview show. In a close hartman is with a lot of knowledge. i decided to do everything in my power to make trump a one term potus, i dealt with a lot of advocacy and worked on the Editorial Campaign and the current tax assessor for the county, he beat the incumbent job areas, im a member of chicago, a member of moms demand action, moms rising of the parent of a respect, and indivisible chapters and most groups ive gotten involved in and what im not doing im walking my dog about 50 miles a day which is why 100 pounds lighter. That is in chicago, thank you for your time, it was in 2021 of our fiction authors appeared, this is tom. How often does an author, with his first book and have a bestseller. I really dont know, im not the only person to tap into, i suppose its reasonably rare, im not the first person to tell you got extremely lucky, you running upholstery how it happened, the book came out in october of 1984 and november of that year in washington times, at the post a retired marine colonel and he is sense deceased unfortunately. He wanted to get a copy of the book, he was too cheap to buy one, frank ortiz with a certain lady heading down to argentina her name was nancy parke reynolds who is a Public Affair people who does know everybody, he asked if nancy would take the book down to argentina, its a long flight from bueno miami tos aires, anyways Christmas Eve and she comes home and she buys a whole case of books, 20 copies to give to her friends for christmas, one of her friends was president reagan, president reagan would read two or three books a week when he was president. And he liked the book and he started talking on the white house, reporter with Time Magazine with alexandria staley heard the talk and there is a book about me and the president and , it really makes me run for president reagan. That was tom clancy who passed away in 2013. In 2003 here were the guest on indepth, bill who arity looked at martin gilberts, bernard lewis, harold bloom, carlo deste, jeff star, stanley krause, john keegan and Doug Brinkley were all our guests that year, mike is in lakeside california, you are on booktv hi. How are you doing. Im doing pretty good, i was calling to recommend for our fellow citizens a couple of books you had on a couple times in the first one, they both share book, the one is imperial america and the second one is dreamy war. Go ahead. I like the author and his writing style because he comes from a list of political families, he has a bold world stoicism with the humor and he kinda tells us the truth about a lot of pleasant things with the stoicism in the humor and its a nice way to get information. Host new york city you are on booktv. Caller good morning, i will start from the top the biography from churchill from Andrew Roberts and my favorite Nonfiction Book with the two authors is the wiseman by kevin thomas, now will get to the two authors, both of these gentlemen, i knew them a little bit and written interesting books or the years since they wrote the wiseman, the wiseman i talk about all the time with people because the six subjects of the book had a huge influence on american Foreign Policy and only one of them was april. Host rb how do you know walter i walter isaacson. Personally she knows adele smith. Host she wrote about queen elizabeth. Caller not long then your self flooded come i do the Nonfiction Book, sally has been there as kevin thomas. Host Sally Bedell Smith has roden several books on the english monarchy and other topics. And is well known to the book tv audience as well, rb thank you for calling in, the prosecutor in the 1969 manson murder cases in his very famous book, crime book helterskelter. He appeared on our program in 2007 and heres a little bit from him. Whodunit. Absolutely you list at the end of the book all the conspiracy people who think its a conspiracy, you list all the groups that can be involved basically saying the whole world had to conspire to kill president kennedy. If you listen to the conspiracy theorist every president ial administration has been trying to cover up, you cannot believe all of our stone for instance, it was one continuous life, i have to qualify that, to be fair to all of our, he headed correct date of 1963, the correct city but other than that it was one continuous life, the thinking cap turned very tightly to the opposition and he came up with ten groups that were involved and had a motive and even the cia bitter enemies but they got together on this one. You asked me who did it, let me try to summarize like a different Time Magazine a couple months ago, they gave me a page on oswalds guilt, i can summarize if youre interested in why theres no conspiracy. Every gated individual conspiracy theories and you ask me about the kgb and i ask you and somebody says what about casper, what about the right wing, ill try to summarize it. I learned as a prosecutor, you do not have to be a prosecutor, common sense, if youre innocent of a crime, chances are there will not be any evidence at all playing torture get. Why . Because you are innocent. Because of the nature of life, the honor kill ability of certain things, now and then a piece of evidence will point to your enter toward your guilt even though youre innocent. An extremely unusual rare situation maybe two or three pieces of evidence point toward your guilt even though youre innocent because you asked me whodunit. Everything points toward lee harvey aulds waltz guilt. In the book i set forth 53 separate pieces of evidence supporting towards oswalds guilt and under the circumstances it would not be humanly possible for oswald to be innocent at least not in the world that we live, im talking to you now and you can hear me there will be a dawn tomorrow, only in aan fantasy world can yu have 53 pieces of evidence pointing toward your guilt and still be innocent. That was vince from 2007, he passed away in 2015, and 2004 heres our list of guest, thomas fleming, victor david hanson, margaret mcmillan, neil ferguson, it simon winchester, then on september 5 we went to the strand bookstore under the profile the stand, angela davis was our guest, David Hackett fisher november in the late tom wolf in december. About 30 of the authors that we showed you are still active and writing, mike texted, my favorite indepth author, interview was David Mccullough a former pittsburgh native and it was special to hear about his career and learn how he writes in a purchase is subject, best which wishes for another year indepth, we appreciate that. In 2007 it was Newt Gingrich who was our author, he is a prolific author, he has written several books, this program, section that we will show you from 2007 is a little different and we will explain after words. There is a continuum when you start with a soundbite and you build it up and then you end up with a book over the dvd and i make in the continuum were in one of the fascinating careers of dramatic change where we could potentially have an enormous dialogue in the country if you have something from second life that we did, this is an example of how i will see this evolve in the next five or ten years. The whole process of an avatar will be a new one, lets watch a molex plane how this works. Let me just say these are some of the teething things of learning a new technology, second voice and second life of the beginning of a very different kind of system, thats exactly what you see happening in front of us people all over the world come together and share ideas and i think its very important to look at how the technologies will evolve. Second, the First Successful manifestation of a meta verse, the meta verse that is a Virtual World inhabited by real people was pioneered in Science Fiction novels and the 1984 snow crash, the first intellectual treatment came in the form of the 1992 book, as a teacher by trait i am delighted to teach a workshop but i am actually not the first to do so, professor Charles Meston taught a class last year inside second knife about the court ofni Public Opinion i think you will find more people engaged in study groups and workgroups in this kind of second life and other kind of environment because are so effective. Host that was 13 years ago, an early version of an avatar, you can see how far technology has come in the last 13 years. Sarah from mississippi. Caller hi i am calling from mississippi. Host yes, maam. Caller peter i look forward to watching cspan every weekend and especially the first sunday of the month to see who the latest author will be. I will tell you right now i am reading. Host before we go any further can you hit mute on your tv. I am sorry may turn the volume down. Caller here we go. Okay my Favorite Book of nonfiction is comingofage in mississippi by and moody, i think she wrote her memoir in 1968 and is the only book that i read twice, my Favorite Book of fiction is solomon by Toni Morrison, i know you had tony on several times but i dont you recall having and moody on you recall if she was ever on. Host if you her book came out in 1968 you say. Caller yes, sir. Host booktv started in 1998 and perhaps she had passed by that point or was not active. Caller ethic she passed two years ago, i thought you may have had her on your show. Host the producer is located up but i dont think and moody rings a bell. We stayed with nonfiction that wouldve been a very appropriate book given the title. Caller its required reading in mississippi for Junior High School students. Host are you a teacher. Caller no, sir, im just a book person, i love books. Host what book is sitting on your table. Caller have a lot of books sitting on my table, i just finished reading claudias book, just as in im currently reading her other book citizen and im also reading right now wondering in strange lands she reclaimed her roots and ive seen her on your program. Host and they have been on as well recently. I think she was on last week or the week before. Did you pick up those books prior to seeing them or because a book tv. I was a bookseller years ago but i still get the new york revealed books and when i see new authors on your program and it sounds interesting i will order and i believe in patronizing independent bookstores and the one that i usually order my books from is square books in oxford mississippi im sure youre familiar with it but that is it for now. Host a lot of history in vicksburg mississippi. You read any Historical Books about the civil war especially the attack on vicksburg in the battle that happened here. Host right now im trying to think of the authors name, he did do a book on vicksburg, the gentleman who wrote mississippi and africa. Host theres another guy who passed away and he did a book on vicksburg and i apologize i am blinking on his name but he passed away recently. He wrote a book on vicksburg as well. Thank you for your time this afternoon, we really appreciate it, thank you for watching. Janet bear delaware, hi janet. Caller janet you have to hit the volume on your tv, turn it off. I turned down the volume. Janet what you reading, hoosier favor author and what you enjoy on book tv indepth program. The book that im presently reading is not the book that im calling about the book that im presently reading is cashed, she does not address in this book, she did the one of her sons the subject that im reading about and three other books, that is the ghetto and i wanted to mention my Favorite Book, im africanamerican and i was born, i am 80 years old and i lived in the ghetto until i was able to escape because you have to escape the ghetto but the first book that i read that was like a bible to me and explaining to me the construction and persistence of the ghetto and that was a book that was written in 1993, the segregation in the making of the under cross, ill never forget one of the sentences, one of the statements that they made in the book and it was about when black people moved into predominantly white communities, he said when that happens white people must have somewhere that they can go where they cannot follow. After that happened and i experienced it the powers will make a community that you move into, they will make that a ghetto but the other two books i wanted to mention, the second one was written in 2009 by a professor at princeton university, she wrote a book called Family Properties and what struck me in that book was the idea when blacks the fda would not give the fha blacks mortgages we had to buy houses on contract in the contract was held by the owner of the house and the stipulations of the contract were such you never could pay off the contract so you lost the house and then they sold it to another black under the same kind of circumstances and then the third book is one written in 2016 ghetto, the history of an idea, another princeton professor and in the subject of the ghetto, i have seen a pillar of race in america in a pillar of the idea the ghetto is where blacks belong and they can only get out of the ghetto if we manage to escape through Educational Opportunities that we might be able to access. Host what is your comparison. In the warmth of other sons, isabel were concerned talked about the ghetto, she talked a lot about the ghetto, and past i just started reading it and i dont believe she talks about the ghetto so much in this book the word ghetto for instance is not in the indexed but she talked a lot about the ghetto the people with the great migration where they left the sharecropping farms, the former plantation of the south and they came north, even though initially blacks did not live in what is called the ghetto certainly by the 1940s they did. Host where did your parents begin their life and where did they end up. Caller excuse me. Host where did your parents begin their life and where they end up in where were you raised. Caller i was born in chester, pennsylvania and i lived in the village projects which are no longer there, they were torn down 20 years ago. But the ghetto is where i lived until i was 16 years old when my parents managed to buy a house, my mother and father came to North Carolina and virginia and they had a fourth and eighth grade education. The ghetto was the place where it was designated that we should live and even to this day that pillar of race persist. Host janet and bear delaware, we appreciate your time, brian in michigan, hi. Caller good morning, good afternoon, i was reading woodwards book and i gotta be honest i wasnt thrilled but i think about woodward, we know the history but he does the same thing that is going on a lot over the past decade or two, its all these socalled sources and they really dont have sources, i wonder how we allow this to happen continually. Host have you read any other of Bob Woodwards 20 or so other books . This is the first one ive seen ive seen them around for decades and we know the history going all the way back but the thing of it is how do we keep allowing this to go on and how do guys like woodward benefit from him when they really dont have sources or this anonymous, he certainly was not a high level source but yet we allow that to go one and they profit from him, you see and the news all the time, im wondering when we will get back to real journalism instead of calling people journalist. Shouldnt they have training in journalism and understanding the theory of journalism. Host what made you pick up this book. Caller i kept seeing it so much and him profiting off of it, i had him take a look at it and its the same thing that goes on and i didnt want this to be about me but i worked in Naval Intelligence and when i see things like this so blatantly going on, i feel like im back in europe where they have blatant propaganda and its internet into america, thats what were dealing with now, thats why were fighting all the time with each other. Were not making these writers whether woodward and many others without having sources that they can verify and prove to you that they have verified them, they should not be able to cite these people, it is hurting our country. Host we are going to leave it there, in 2005 indepth was in its fifth year, heres the authors, historian gary, ellen, robert, thomas friedman, father richard, hwb reasons, harvey mansfield, Doris Kearns Goodwin and a fiction writer john updike was our guest, it was in 2013 when a caller referenced this author a little bit earlier that mary roach who often is humorous in her writing appeared on the program, heres a portion of that. I tried to find, i did not really care if somebody done in space technically i just wondered if anybody had done itt ngo gravity so i thought there was all these commercial flights, gravity corporations and i called them and they guy said hes a contractor of ours and if that got out. We spend a lotot of money, he sd no but of course hes going to say no, im guessing maybe one of the staff at thehe 0 gravity core mightve done that after hours, one of the early flights where they were working out the kinks, nobody is owning up to it. The research on the topic including locating a porn star. Sylvia saint, there was supposedly a trilogy called the uranus experiment and what i heard there was a scene shot in 0 gravity, not in space but on a 0 gravity stimulator of playing that does a flight coming up 20 seconds and 0 gravity, conceivably you could but i called and tracked down the producer of the uranus experiment who lives in spain and we had and conversation abot this and he said we did, we did that shot in 0g, all send you the link and you can check it out, he went on and on and he said i have a timeshare on a Corporate Jet and we got the pilot to do the flight and i said you got the pilot to do a 0 gravity strike, thats extreme. He said we had to c check the planes really thoroughly and then i download the uranus experiment and i fastforward, im the only person fastforward through the porn, i got to the scene in 0 gravity and right away if you know anything about 0 gravity, you could tell that this is fake because her ponytail is hanging down, her ponytail would be floating, 0 gravity would be like this and is hanging down and other parts of her anatomy are not buoyed by 0 gravity, there should be no hanging down in 0 gravity, there would be no hanging down and there was in these experiments and the legs were a there standg behind the sofa and trying to look like they were, as for oneshot the money shot they flipped it sideways so it looked like they were floating. Host that was mary roach in 2013. Tom and paul harbor florida. Caller hi. Host ready reading hoosier favorite guest. Caller my favorite author, historian is howards in and i read all of his books, peoples history in the United States and the obedience of the markers they in the noncore dating committee, his first book was his phd thesis on governor laguardia new york, certainly a runnerup for great history books is your recent guest jill, i read a couple of her books and i think these truths is a really fantastic book. Right now im reading a book and i dont know if hes been on his name is larry, its called demagogue, hes written many books and i read another of his books, this book demagogue is about joe mccarthy its a fantastic book. Host i think it just came out in the last month or two, i believe we have covered it or he is going to be on shortly and thats what i think we have covered. Hes also been interviewed on judy woodward. Host if you go to booktv. Org you could type it at the top of the page a search function. Caller i do that all the time. Host if you type in ty e, it should appear, im quite sure hes been on, thank you for watching and thank you for calling in, curtis vancouver washington. Caller hello steve i wanted to remind you the name you are overlooking is forest gumps winston grove and irs would recommend his 1942 about the history of the world behind the scene things going on. Host night a chance to meet him at the southern festival of books in nashville, is very delightful person to meet but it was a lot of fun. Caller i enjoyed your clips of the interview have you ever had david samson. Caller hes my favorite historian. Host what is it about mr. Hanson or doctor hansen that attracts w you. Caller his classical education and history from the greek and roman era like one of his books had, what the impact was longterm like the battle where socrates managed to survive which had a big influencera on history or the battle where the americans learned to be just as brutal as the japanese or theor battle of shiloh where the author had to backtrack back and forth part of the first day and umade up for by writing the bo. Host he is still very active author and columnist he has a weekly column. Caller i look forward to seeing him on tv. Host he was on her after rdwords program a couple of months ago and its a book in support of President Trump that he wrote, i do not know what that does to your opinion. Ccaller i concur. Host a couple of books tod recommend that im currently reading a biography called a third phase which has a lot of very nice insight of his original career as a copy boy at the newspaperne in new york and then onto his career as a documentary and a filmmaker, he was really very good in another book to recommend is twilight of the god in the trilogy about the war in the pacific. Host you know youre the Second College to recommend that. Caller James Horn Fisher is good on his books and rick atkinsonur at his trilogy on the european war were really good. The favorite author growing up was isaac, he passed on a long time ago and for books to recommend, ive got some books from reading murder mysteries from stout, the way he kept his place in the book if you use the special bookmark that was when i looked up t and read and that covers the treasure over time of the english language by lincoln burnett and African Genesis about the development of humanity from primitive precivilization by Robert Ardrey who retired from writing scripts for movies he wrote the book the script for cartoon but then he decided he specializes in researching anthropology. Host we spent a lot of time with books, you have a lot of free time or is this your hobby. Caller its what i enjoy doing more than anything else, i had one whole room dedicated to a library that i had to tear out because my daughter moved in with us, the books are boxed up in the garage i get about 8000 books boxed in the garage. Caller i always have a few on hand like the third phase in the twilight of the gods and i wanted to recommend for the civil war the trilogy about u. S. Grant starting with captain sam grant by willie lewis who passed away from taking the note in writing that book and he passed them on to a subsequent biographer who everybody in civil war knows him and there was one great antidote when he came back from vancouver and he had a time at the post when he is not very happy because his family was away and he came back to galena illinois and he came into the store of galena and the middle of a rainstorm and one of the guys sitting around, you look like hell. The guy said whats it like angry and said same as here, lawyers closest to the fire. Host curtis are you a lawyer by profession . Caller im in engineer but now im substitute schoolteacher semi retired and a lot of times i read books. Host we appreciate your time on the tv today, carolyn and sac city iowa is reading janets book, there is a couple 90 east park pace and the irregulars in the british bicycle in washington, she has appeared on book tv several times and you can watch her online. Caller i wanted to call attention to the book grant by ron by alexander hamilton, a lot of people today, i find his books hard to put down what you start. They are so well documented and i appreciate that in the current climate of people playing fast and loose. The other writer i really enjoy inward recommend to anybody as richard door kaiser in his most recent book give me liberty, its an excellent thing for people to readop right now, it goes back to a time. That has been under attack and follows ari real origins of the founders early belief and is not a long book, it is so worth your time. Host thank you for calling in, he has appeared on book tv several times and in fact a year or so back we did an interview with a history of richard he writes for National Review and his wife jeannie who is a psychotherapist and she had written a book called how to get along with your friends and neighbors politically if you dont agreepo on politics and we interviewed them in theirwe apartment in new york and you can watch the online booktv. It was in 2002 on one ye one ofs many appearances on book tv and cspan that this gentleman appeared on indepth, here is a portion. As i matured. Again they seem to be here and here, how do they intersect . John is a love supreme that brings together the spirituality and the spirituality is genuine giving and serving in the credit questioning and the profound love, compassion and lovingkindness you get out of the tradition in the christian tradition is brought together and takes us to a high level in terms of the musical genius and with the check off you simply do not have a poet of such profound compassion resting with death, disappointment, wrestling with misery, the constant heartbreak of daily life but trying to convince us to keep on, trying to rest is not our business, that is check off, how do you keep keeping on, and dont worry me anymore thats why i keep keeping on, and the wonderful poem not all there, this is late at night and still im losing and still im steady and unaccusing pushing no matter what, thats a level of compassion and love that you just dont find into many other, you would have to go to Toni Morrison to get the fusion of sweetness of mind and toughness of temper in one figure. When did you first read it. When i was 17 and a blue my mind. Host 18 years later joining us now is doctor cornell west, doctor west listening to that is anything you would like to add. Caller i want to congratulate you my brother, you have been with the force for good for 20 years and it is been in the midst of a very grim in so many ways bleak time, you will have been a light, you been so kind to me and so many other voices and i hope your loved ones are strongng and safe but im blessd to be breathing, each breath iss a breakthrough in each day is a blessing almost 20 years later but imre still tied and still revolutionary christian tied to palestinian you name jesus. Host cornell west how many books are you up to now. Caller i dont even count, i guess maybeet 20 21 or somethg like that but as you know its not a matter of the quantity its a matter of the quality and you hope those words can help somebody unsettle sums minds and try to heal hearts and the best way that we can in the actions that we do in the lies that we live. Host your work it out a book now . Caller ive got these lectures in scotland, its on catastrophe and public intellectuals, both of his parents died in the bubonic plague and made his way through the various monasteries but the brother and sister became the first public intellectual tied to the press and it goes all the way to Toni Morrison, a lot of figures in between and the arnolds and the edwards and the abraham joshua, culminating with tony and cold dr. Slaoui that. In the voice to, its in the making i have about two years to work on these lectures and that will be the next big book but at the moment as we try to get through its going to be left, even reading american empire, a global history the university of cambridge the treatment of american empire and the military veerreach, elites across the board and the feeling among everyday people that they dont have a power required to turn othis thing around more hope rumor on the titanic and the confidence, all of those ships that were going under because we lost access to the best of our past unable to mobilize the resources and sources spiritual, moral as well as political and civic that can keep a fragile experiment in democracy alive, i think thats where we are now my brother but thank god the life of the mind is still at work, the life of the mind is indispensable, we have to have courageous citizens and loving human beings but its indispensable because all of us in some way that are laboring under certain frameworks, certain limbs to which w we look at the world comes from the poets, thinkers, writers and musicians, shelley is right the poets are the unknowledged legislative world, thoughts of unapprehended inspiration of the mears of the shadow cast on the president , that is a brilliant genius shelley right before he dies 29 years old and hes appropriating dante in the trampled life, his last great poem he understood we had to be connected in our past our ideas, or emotion, or visions, or narrative, to intervene on the president and we hope to focus on the least of the poor working classes but all around the world all colors, all genders, all sexual orientations and for me it begins with the hebrew scripture and what i talked about 18 years ago, the lovingkindness and persecuted those who have been rendered invisible, that is the covenant that god makes with israel with jews that set the standard for everybody including israel and including jews, what are you doing for the least, what are alu doing for the poor, what are you doing for those s dominated occupied at the moral and spiritual standard that is created in all of us and no one of us ever has that truth that we can be an quest by that truth and i know whatte youre talking about because at your own formation, your own family in your own community the intellectual humanity that we see in socrates and unbelievable compassion in jeremiah or a weeping jesus or deeply concerned mohammed trying to bring together different people who are at each others throats and is trying to create a piece requiring a mercy thatt goes beyond justice, absolutely but 18 years later he looked back and wondered, im lucky to be alive. Host three years ago your on indepth again i dont know if you remember that or not. My brother robbie, yes, robbie george, absolutely, we had a great time, we didnt have a book so, we had jointly written reflections on truth seeking at that time that we put out we put another one for honesty encourage but we had a magnificent time on your show, trying to hold up to the best of our ability and integrity, honesty, and any time you talk about your identity, racial identity, gender identity, whatever identity you have it has to be rooted in integrity and solidarity with those across various nations and colors, the moral and the spiritual standards that we all fall short of but they must always be highlighted are you going to end up with massive spiritual decree and crab into, i think that is part of what were dealing with right now my brother. Host by the way just to tell her audience if theyre not as familiar Robert George is a professor at princeton and an author and cornell west best friends and he happens to fall on the conservative side of the political spectrum, is that a Fair Assessment . Hes a big conservative, we wrestle and engage each other given our disagreements that we have a love that is not reduced by politics we have a deep profile friendship that is not reducible to agreement on Public Policy but just an acknowledgment of how we can revel in each others humanity even when we have political disagreement and thats also an understanding of the difference between deep love and narrow justice, any justice soon degenerates into something less than justice if its not grounding is something more profound, he is right about that but you can love somebody and also have deep political disagreements but if its only about justice and you end up with a narrow selfrighteousness and end up living in your own silo and not able to makend the humane and human contact that you have disagreement with, we already understand this in terms of her own family, you know what i mean, thanksgiving dating you sit around the table, you have some disagreements with aunts and uncles and even moms and dads and brothers and sisters but you still take a bullet for them, thats the love with any serious talk about justice, doesnt mean we have political folds, of course we do there is no doubt about it, donald trump for me is a political flow but i dont want to lose site of his humanity and of an image of god the same way i have an image for god and if he did not consent to his gangster like activity and change his life and acted with integrity, he has the capacity and could do it if he really wanted to but he chooses not to as long as theres an image of god in person and the choice that we have to be different and go another way and be better you dont ever want to lose sight of that when youre engaging human beings, i learned this in shallow baptist church, you can still try to stay in contact with humanity of the sinner and yes in fact as i also learned the baptist church, the kingdom of god is in you everywhere that youea go and you only leave a little half behind and the question becomes what kinda have them behind arerm we leaving in terms of our relations with others, are concerns with poor people and working people and are concerns with Indigenous People and black people import white people, our concern with those in libya, somalia, ethiopia, nigeria, thailand, japan, and gotta be global, international, thats part of the greatness of the prophetic legacy of drew luce alum, for christians it ought to be under cross, every flag for juice to be under the unnameable that god of justice, thou shalt per zug, not just for the group where the ego but all of those who suffered, these are some of the great moral truths of the species if we lose sight of that, we end up losing the planet, we end up losing american democracy, we end up losing the best of ourselves, they probably wrote the greatest heace and what does it profit the nation to gain the whole world and lose its soul. That is on the irish side of town, in his literary genius. Host doctor west it is a pleasure to see you virtually we look forward to seeing you again in person, thank you for your time on indepth today and take care. Caller congratulations, stay strong. Host the text message from wesley inbu pittsburgh, favorite guest was Colson Whitehead on our year in fiction which was in 2018 we did 12 fiction authors and Colson Whitehead was our guest. It was in 2006 that are guest were ron powers, taylor, francis, shelby steele, robert remedy, joyce appleby, gary gallagher, tammy bruce, John Hope Franklin, and president jimmy carter, it was in march that francis was on in 2006, here is a portion. Youre also interested in photography. Thats been a much more alarmist running hobby of mine when i was a kid and i gave it up for about 15 or 20 years but the digital age hit and ill be doing it for about ten, i travel a lot so i always take the camera wherever i go but i got interested in being able toe control lighting in doing more studio type work, ive now gotten set up i have this ritual with my kids and we have a very clear record of what they look like in intervals, one of these days i would like to take pictures of all of my friends because i know some pretty interesting people and got them to pose in front of my camera but importantly ive been too do that. Host is this where you do your portrait work . Yes i said in the basement but i can set it up with all my lights to do portraits. Host what kinda cameras this. I love this camera it is a 67 medium format produces a big six by 77meter, it is bigger than, it produces the most beautiful highresolution picture that i stand into the computer and produces 500 megabytes stand and when youre done with it ive taken this all the way to australia, its not an easy camera to use but its incredibly flexible and produces beautiful pictures. Host how long have you been using this camera. Ive had it for years i also have another medium format that is a little bit lighter than that that i use for travel photography and then i have a collection and other things im afraid the digital revolution will make thesere cameras obsole because the resolution you can get now on pro digital list is getting up to this level but im going to be very sad because the films that they make from our cameras are just beautiful just the moment that they perfected and all of that will end. How does the processing work you get a negative and manipulate the digital. I have a medium format scanner so i scan the slider or negative intond my computer and then its photoshopped from their, used to have a website from when i was a kid and i did black and white in the computer makes it so much easier these days, you feel kinda bad all the skills of people developed like atoms, there is one. That adams got printed repeatedly and it took him 25 years to finally get the. That he felt happy with and unfortunately all about effort and the craftsmanship you lose when you move to computers and digital. Host one of m frances bestknn books the end of history and the last man, he is still in the. Virginia area, he is still writing. That was a visit we took to his house, he did that for many years for booktv traveling to the office, to wreak in tucson, thank you for holding your booktv, Favorite Book Nonfiction Author, woody reading and have you had a favor indepth . Im host my Favorite Book is autobiography of malcolm x and because i read that when i was a kid when i was nine or ten years old was my First Library book that inspired me too continue to read but listening to cspan and the wonderful authors that you had acrosstheboard i had a very diverse background of reading by my career ive been in education this is my 40th year and ive been assistant principal for 22 years and it really moved me when youou are talking because im originally from wilmington, delaware and i went to high school and graduated and played College Football when i was in tucson and she was talking about the ghetto and im also reading the book called the color of law by richard and thats an interesting book and it was talking about the things that she talked about, and the pleasure of meeting doctor cornell west in the early 90s when i was working for my school t. District and africanamerican studies department i was one that was selected to ask them a question and i was reading his book at the time,of democracy matters its one of my Favorite Books and doctor cornell west was trying to get me inspired to go to princeton to finish my doctorate which i never finished and im reading the book one of your favorites beginning again by professor eddie, he is a princeton guy and one of my favorite historians, president ial historian he is one of my favorites. I have a crosssection of things, one of the things that i like aboutut cornell west is how he talks about the news today as a form of entertainment that they present and you have to read between the lines but all the people that you had on the day admire everyone that you had that her deep readers and one thing about cspan im so glad you have this program because it gives us a chance to broaden our horizon intellectually, one of the people you had him before was a book by Michele Sullivan looking up, i read her book and im reading a new book in search of the voices redefining the identity by paul romos, im reading her book and they go back and forth in one of myon favorite people was doctor mike oyson, and several of his books so i enjoy that reading too. Host with cornell west, what you see is what you get with h him. Caller yes. Host hes ways been consistent. But ill tell you, we sure missed going down to tucson for the wonderful books festival for the university of arizona the sheer, have you been to that in the past . I go every year. Host we covered in the past ten years or so but it didnt happen and we look forward to going back down march is a nice time to be back in tucson. Caller a beautiful place. Host thank you for your time we sure appreciate it. To wreak mentioned a couple of historians who appeared and is still working today, this is from 2001 and this is bestselling author and poet surprise winner david mccullou mccullough. We have video of your home in writing shed. First of all its not a shed its the headquarters. That their home on music street in massachusetts and in the center of the island, the house is part of the 18th century, part of the 19th century, part of the 20th century, thats a back porch looking over the acre that we own where wert have gardens in a nicein reach back to boarding oa neighboring farm which is been the same family since the island was first settled, this is where i work right there that measures 12 by 8 feet as windows on all four sides, absolutely love it about 800 books in my typewriter which i have worked there is nothing wrong with it, example of a beautifully made american machine. It probably has 750,000 miles and it runs perfectly. Host have you written every word that then john adams in this room. Caller part written in charlottesville when we lived there for a year end the better part of the year when i was doing research at the library at the university of virginia, but wasntially all of it written in that room. Host macrina dated you write. Caller im not writing all day reading or correcting what i wrote the day before or im going over notes, there is no telephone. Host is there music . Caller no, there is a nice view but i had my back to the view so i will not be tempted by it. It is far enough from the house, enough to see b general washingn and with his soldiers marching along, i hope they show the end of it because theres a guy at the end identify and is always a little slow catching up, he is not quite youre going to see him and they look at him and hes my example there he is, that is the one, hes always a little behind. Host David Mccullough is published by Simon Schuster and the president is on your screen now, Jonathan Karp, what has david, mccullough met. David mccullough is a franchise, percival happy anniversary and ive been hearing his voice, he fills me with such admiration if david is watching, we hear you, we love you and we will be reading forever. He has been with us for over 50 years and hes one of the great writers at work today and every time ive had the privilege of reading the thing that struck me the most he is not a wasted word, he is a careful writer and also the way he is able to find the inspiration in american history, it is distinctive, i dont think theres anybody. Quite like david. Host mr. Karp is he writing his new book now. I sure hope so youd have to ask is editor. Host have you been to a shed . In fact he is hard to reach on the telephone as he said in the interview he does not answer the phone. Host 20 years indepth has been on the air, peggy, bob, jodi, naomi, david, simon and authors who have appeared on the progr program, how has the world of publishing in the last 20 years changed and you only have two minutes to enter that question. First of all a lot of the authors are still around for bestsellers in writing books of the have ath best influence. It had a tremendous impact on the way people are receiving the president ial campaign but the short answer is i think there is obvious he more books beings sd online, i think the case of publishing just like the news cycle hasyc accelerated and the third thing i would say, maybe the nonfiction culture at least in recent years has taken a little bit of attention away from fiction. Those of the big points i would think. Host when you planned Bob Woodwards most recent book ra rage. You talked about the timing, what went into that decision to release in Early September . We thought that is when attention would be the most focused on the question of how the triple administration has behaved and conducted itself, a lot of it depends upon bobs reporting his own timing and is on schedule, we werent really sure, bob said it could be earlier or later we had hoped it would be september, nothing was certain until bob was done, when bob was done we moved. Host what is been the effect of the pandemic on the Publishing Industry specifically Simon Schuster. It is been unusual for several months we did not publish that many books when the pandemic began in march we postpone several titles that were coming out in april, may, june and then we started to publish more really going into july and then ultimately book sales were up, the industry book sales have been up about 6 in july to many publishers and people were home and had time to read, it is turned out and through all the hardship and suffering for readers, it is been allad right. Host Jonathan Karp, to wellknown in the Publishing Industry figures at Simon Schuster have passed, allison and carolyn. It is been a really tragic year for people in the book Publishing Industry, they are not the only ones who died in just the other day it seems that theres a lot of major people who passed away this year, carolyn was our ceo who worked for Simon Schuster at a decade and she was a great leader and one of the greatest editors over time and one of the leading editors over time. She was working her final days and she told me before she died she wanted to sign off two more books in her work with her life and she loved her authors and she made an immense contribution publishing as they carolyn. Host did alice leave a manuscript behind, that is the book everybody would like to read. Alice was a deeply private person that we did publish a book about alice and we asked them, bunch of her authors tot contribute memories of her and we publish that and its actually at tickets free to the public and its a wonderful book of memories and is reviewed quite favorably by the Washington Post. Host what books are coming out by Simon Schuster this Christmas Season we should be alerted to . Sent you asked i have one out right now, i dont know if you can see this, this is an accountant with his years working with john mccain and i was in tears by the end of this book, it is a story that you would not be able to get any other way and mark was senator mccains chief of staff for many years and worked with him on his president ial campaign, his chief speechwriter, coauthored sevenh books. You arere seen mccain from the most intimate perspective that any politician or political leader can be seen from and it is a story even if you dont agree with s mccains politics, this is an honorable man and a man who cared deeply about the country and i think its a story regardless of your political ideology, you can appreciate. That is one, i think other books we had for the holidays the biography of jimmy carter at his very best which is a terrific account of president carters life it took jonathan about six years to write, we have a book by evan that just came out on joe biden, evan won the National Book award on china he is a new yorker staff writer and he is gone to cover hes been covering biden for many years and we think we hope this will be the book that everybody turned to to understand joe biden. Host jonathan, president and ceo of Simon Schuster, a couple of years ago book tv wenp into the Headquarters Building in new york city of Simon Schuster and did a tour, if you would like to watch that you can type in Jonathan Karp in the search function at booktv. Org, thank you for spending a few minutes with us. Thank you. Host in 2007 on book tv indepth program these authors appeared, bj or work the political humorist, Barbara Aaron wright, luke, michael, edward, Christopher Hitchens, david horowitz, vince and Newt Gingrich, dan in massachusetts, good afternoon. Who are you reading and who is your favorite indepth guest, who is an author you would like to recommend. I would be glad to tell you, first of all i want to compliment you on the wonderful job of book tv, it was very interesting and educational and i been promoting it to other people and they tell people, ive been telling them how your authors complement librarians of a couple a buddy of mine the librarian of the boston public librarian and i told him that these authors say they could not achieve these books without the assistance from some of the librarians and i was in the situation also, i dont want to take too much time but i h wanto answer your question also, i have a number of authors that i have listened to with intensity and all lead off by telling you i enjoyed the replay of William F Buckley im sure you remember that it was a phenomenal interview and you wrote so many books i think you said 41, how can you beat that and i also enjoyed listening to doctor, he wrote the fractured republic and the great debate i thought that was interesting most people think the great debate lincoln and douglas but also you cannot forget thomas paine and edmund burke and i mentioned doctor ross who was on a few minutes ago i really wanted to talk to him i think is a well educated man and i i really enjoyed his presentation that he wanted to convey to us, charlotte simmons, i thought that book was fascinating, tom is an interesting guy and im sure you would agree i think you enjoyed having them as your guest he brought up an interesting subject how we went under College Campuses to observe the behavior of students and what is going on in College Campuses today which i fortunately went to duke to the Alliance College and it was in the 70s and things have changed, it was interesting hearing the view of tom wolf i think is very fascinating and a wonderful writer. Host what you do in tsmassachusetts. Caller woodway do. Host yes. Caller through college i ended up getting a degree in sociology and i worked with the commonwealth and a counselor for years in my family has a Small Business and i did retail work with them, i lectured at a College Campus and lecture to clergy and lectured at the house of correction ive been involved in Community Service and thats why some of the information gives me great background when i talk to other people, the one question i want to ask you if you dont mind, i hope your listeners will probably get something outut of this did you find any central theme of various authors, to me it was a variety but i would like to see the number of your authors with the point ofth a decline in morality in this country and i think thats part of the clause that goes back to the republic, i think part of the problem if our country would improve its morality and if more people would get into the secular life it would cause less of a pluralism going on in our society which i think some of your authors refer to that we might have to face in the futu future. Host that is dan in pittsfield massachusetts. Bob from detroit text in that indepth should go back to three hours, that is why its called owindepth. This last year we put it down to two hours 202 7488200 if you live in eastern time zone 202 7488201 per mountain pacific and if you want to text in a thought include your first name and city 202 7488903 is the number for you mike in massachusetts, you were on book tv, please go ahead. Good afternoon, i would just like to mention the greatest Nonfiction Book ever written, the author is long gone its a history of the peloponnesian war, probably the first Nonfiction Book written, the greatest nonfiction. The most important fiction bookk ive ever read was 1984, you can read that book and you can see what is going on today. It is the most important book ive ever read, you had paul johnson on who was very influential with me and finally thomas soul, i dont know if youve ever had him on but he is fantastic. Host paul johnson joined us from london i remember that interview and we appreciate you calling in, it was in 2009 that a woman named temple, she is somebody with autism who designs livestock holders and a big bestselling author and heres a portion of what she had to say. What you mean when you say you think inn the pictures. All my thoughts come up as pictures so i googled for images and instead of asking me the abstract question and a cover of my book why dontt you pretend im Google Images and give me a keyword, most people can visualize that and dont give me something i see in the tv stud studio, and a control room or Something Like that, give me a noun and ill tell you how my mind searches the database. Cspan. Cspan i see my hotel room, the tv on and i was watching cspan, the tv would not turn off and i had other work i had to do now im seeing a Remote Control pushing all the buttons and thats how i got cspan the tv Remote Control and i had to call the helpdesk to get the Remote Control to work and now im in the hotel hassell file. Tocorral. Im starting to see many of the facilities, they come up, corral tends to be real facilities, if you ask master to see things i designed, if you say meet plant i start seeing facilities are designed at the meat plant, that is something that is my business, im going to tend to see my own stuff why dont you ask me something that would not bess my business. Book. Im seeing them in there in the wrong youre not being very creative. I did not know what is going to be put on the spot. The only way i can explain how i think is ive got to show you how to associate the thinking, get off the subject the same way a search does on the internet even when he drove verbal search, many of the first two pages you hit the wrong subject and then he gets off the subject but its associative. How many in the u. S. Think like that. Theres other people that are visual thinkers that are not necessarily autistic, a lot of good Graphic Design art people but one thing, when i Design Equipment and i draw it i cash run in my head like a Virtual Reality Computer System i thought any other designer could do that but i found that they could not and when i wrote thinking of pictures i interview people about how they think and i was shocked to find out most of the people did not think the way that i do like what they think aboutut Church People i think specific ones, they talk specific, and put them in the Church People file another people get in a vague generals image i dont have a vague generalized image i only have specific. Host that was Temple Grandin back in 2009 booktv, this is lisa and toms river new jersey i just finished reading terrible of the solar by Octavia Butler it was recommended in the Facebook College alumni group it is very well written and i recommend it. Next call is benjamin in alabama. Good afternoon what is on yournj reading list, who is your favorite indepth offer. Caller my favorite indepth author is christian american, i dont know whether youve heard ofow him. Host what has he written . Caller my Favorite Book of his is called the first and the last freedom, he has been written about by August Huxley and huxley statement about his writing is that the reader will contemporary statement of the fundamental human problem, problem singular together with an invitation to solve it and the only way in which it can be solved and for himself. He looks at the fundamental problems as basically agreed, fear and the search for securi security. Host spell his last name for us please. Caller his last name is kate ri sh in a him you rti. Host thank you, sir, ames, iowa, please go ahead. Caller my name is ed im from ames and i read a book not long ago as a result of watching cspan, i dont think it was book tv i think it was a q a with brian lamb called clandestine relationships a black mans odyssey and the ku klux klan and it was a very illuminating book written in 1998, im not so sure, you may have interviewed him about tv but its a very interesting book that he called ignorant he called those ignorant andnd thoe stupid and he goes on to relate the people who are ignorant tend to do stupid things. But it was very illuminating book and i enjoyed it and it was amazing how a black man was able to become very Close Friends with members of the ku klux klan to the point where they not only trusted each other but they became very Close Friends at theh point at the end of book he realizes his best friend in the ku klux klan has a daughter that he wants Terrell Davis to become his daughters godfather. Host andy and ames, iowa, andy go ahead please. Caller to answer your question of myon favorite authors, it out to be David Mccullough, the reason i like mccullough is because he was one of the first to put you there, i am in my 60s so i remember the tv show called you are there and i remember mccullough talking about what it was like to be a revolutionary war soldier and trying to get home after the war or if you got wounded and what kind of care would you get and how did you put on your shoes and did you even have matching shoes, he was one of the first to introduce me to the line of thought and argues that to tailor my reading, the reading list im pretty much reading Rick Ackerson and i just finished victor david hanson, hansen the first one ever saw that can make the interesting and i read a war like no other and i first heard that on a replay of 2000 book tv thing, i wouldnt call myself a cspan groupie, also it up at 330 at night and watch it but all my friends are pretty tired of me telling that they auto flip over to cspan and downloaded all your mp3s, communicators, q a, after words and stuff like that. Host im going to go out and say you are groupie. I willte say this you made me feel better about this years election basically from the contenders that you displayed or the other when the president first ladies in landmark cases and i consider myself history and it Defense Department but basically there was always a big issue forth every year, every election, al smith in the 1920s, every year there has noise been some big deal and if you were only the to listen to the propaganda on other channels you would not get that picture so im kind of thinking even though this is a big election,an trump invited, whoever wins or loses as long as the machinery of our system staying in place we will be okay and ive cspan2 think for them. Host andy thank you for calling and watching, over the years, several authors have appeared including ann coulter, david hurwitz, Newt Gingrich, michelle, mark stein, what do they have in common, i think its fair to say they are all conservatives in including this gentleman who was in her first year. Here it is. Old and musty, 49 years old, it came on 1951 and to suppose that i had calculated for it to come out on the 250th anniversary of the founding in fact it was quincy dental, the picture on the back, doba you remember those guys. Not conceivably. Whats in the n book. The book is an examination of a lifeat at el for the undergraduate which that was given to the impulses into which he was exposed having to do with government was in enthusiasm for the government or enthusiasm for Less Government and also in respect to religion and what was encouraged and in which religion touched of faith or skepticism. , i concluded in those days there was a collective list in respect to the other, should i route along or do you want to stop me . As recently as four years ago, someone who is not ab reminded me that i have volunteered to read out loud the section that bore on christianity to the white hold, dwight called is the paternity is it does have the appearance the strong christian that was accurately predicted of what went on. Published by redner he and thomas is the new president and publisher of regularly. I then the publisher since january of this year i just completed ten months. Prior to that . I was an editor made 12 through this year at regnery we have senior editors who take the raw manuscript and rathen develop with big picture editing and then copy editors and i was one of the senior editors. One visit i picked up a copy of god and man. Good feel. What has he meant to the company . Him and regnery started the company in 1947. And as we just heard in that clip is another important book in the conservative intellectual tradition of the conservative mind roughly the same time. And really established. So are the authors that have been published this year at regnery . Its quite a variety. We usually have bigname conservative figures mentioning Dinesh Desousa and and coulter one and coulter and dinesh being a classmate of mine and we have politicians and it is one vote away by senator ted cruz and the supreme court. That came out right at thehe same time called supreme disorder and we have another book by another academic called the parasitic mind a youtube and podcast celebrity and the epidemic in the response of the pandemic as the economist and a statistician and a biologist. And to cover the spectrum. From your perspective is itay better to have republican or Democratic Administration when it comes to book sales . [laughter] thats a good question. The joker burglary what is bad for america is good for regnery. The clinton years were very good for regnery. With a conservative is in the w white house people in our market are less willing to have a good outlook so generally the opposition is good for regnery. So we have been done well in the trump years and whats good for our business. The new ceo and publisher of ordinary thank you for spending some time with us today. Tell us you are reading. Caller im a big fan the tv it might be a Favorite Program in the favorite Nonfiction Author and Favorite Booktv guest thinks the call a few minutes ago and jason in an author who still living i dont think hes been on booktv yet he writes about the spectrum of content on developments called graded one americas greatest philosopher and husband and talked about by the likes of bill clinton. Thank you for calling in. In 2000 for a couple of worse so this portion of the program. And that is for purposes of what happens. It happened by accident but i realized pretty soon it was in to a good thing. I finally got a job in new york as a reporter i got this job june 1962 summer was coming on i had to wear a jacket and a tie and i only had two jackets to my name so into the store which is in Richmond Virginia that was made of heavy material i can war in the summer so it. This time of year. And it annoyed people to no end. It made getting dressed in the morning a lot more fun than it had been. And then to publish a collection of those magazine pieces i discovered i wasnt used to being interviewed and i was speechless and i didnt say very much for all would say what an interesting man he always wears white suits. It took the place of a personality for many years. How many do you have . Now have aboutut 22. I can get by with it. How long can you get by without it being clean . About six hours when you want to trip you make people thank you have one that you have to have three. I have three suits i brought along to come here all made of the same material you cant really tell the difference but simply it doesnt hurt. He passed away 2018 and in 2008 Nell Irvin Painter and then talking about the election that year. It wasnt me that booktv went to alice walkers home and the berkeley hills. And about bob marley, i never met him while he was alive. I feel that i met his spirit every year that i discovered him he has meant a great deal to me and to get the energy thats what we do and its free. Is not like it is a commercial thing ever but before we do is just give energy. And then people can keep going so i feel that it has kept millions of us going so when you see him and just the purity and i think millions of people around the world have connected with that and that is why he is so beloved and completely free and giving the transmission of deep caring about eachca other. Caller hi peter thank you for taking my call. This is a difficult question on who is my favorite guest harold bloom and john a quarter. Nicholas bass maine. And i got through to talk to lynn cheney. She has a new wind out to. I know. I just love her with her husband interviewing her i thought that was neat but i love you all so much. Its the greatest thing in the world, booktv. We sure you are watching whats go to washington. Caller Great Program like usual. My favorite author is Christopher Hitchens and Victor Davis Hanson realized hes not with us but nobody left to lie to everything hansen does it is a genius as far as that goes. I love your show tell everybody you dont have to read the books and just get the cliff notes. This is along with other gentle man just said my favorite indepth author Christopher Hitchens although ironically have not read any of hisvo book. Now finishing his book titled america. The farewell tour laramie wyoming go ahead. Caller thanks for your service and those to be on indepth hav anybody those authors . I think sebastian has been who else john meacham and james webb. John meacham not yet we have been trying. We did a couple years ago from the new york studio he owns a bar up there. We went up to new york to visit with him there. With the name of the bar . I will find it. His book, war, it is excellent and what a great writer. And james webb that authoritative literature on vietnam i believe. I dont think he has been on and i apologize i am not as familiar with that. Thats a right you have a lot on your plate. We had john meacham at the National Book festival. Caller a great sense off humor. There is a girl who said its you its really usual to grab a book and brought it back to him and it was a john grisham novel. [laughter] we also interviewed john grisham by the way a couple times here which was always entertaining. We like our local authors and i prefer nonfiction. Head secretary carson is the author of several books and appeared on this program in 2013. I was extraordinarily selfish young person as an adolescent. And a person who thought i had a lot of rights of our rights you thank you have the more likely someone is to infringe on my rights once i even tried to stab another youngster with a knife and the scene is well depicted in the movie but after that incident i locked myself in the bathroom and i started to contemplate my life and i realize trying to kill somebody over nothing, that i was seriously deranged. And i prayed and i to provide with the bathroom. And it was about fools and i said that sounds like me but had a lot of verses about anger theres no point in getting angry i just get right back into trouble. But proverbs 16 32. In verse after verse and chapter after chapter seems they were written for me and while i remained in the bathroom for three hoursba i came to an understanding its not a sign of strength to punch somebody or kick down the door but a sign of weakness and you can be controlled by othergn people that i didnt want to be controlled but also understand selfishness because somebody was in my space are doing something to me it was always about me and mine and i said step outside the center of the circle and let it be about somebodye be else and maye that will change things and i started trying that, that day and he never had another angry outburst since that time. Secretary carson prior to being head secretary. Hr Christopher Buckley, bill ayers, Juan Williams Temple Grandin had been our guests. Several callers have brought up mr. Hitchens and 2007 he was on indepth. Like somebody like billy graham somebody that doesnt leave any of this at all but it with those attempts with those contemporary affairs and James Templeton and what he was talking was complete nonsense is really can you go on saying this stuff . Is a lot of people expected to me i dont want to sell and forget about it. And then to try to from it. Some more racket and scientology. But the Spiritual Life and then to believe that that was a virgin birth or resurrection. And that they have to know that it didnt take place. And without arguing. If they want to do that then i will. And then to do themselves in injustice. Its like a disorder but some kind of prejudice and nothing that can fix me that is unsanitary its about a person. Its horrible conspiratorially meanspirited and eventually lethal and then at the Nixon Library once you got over the revelation from what nixon was. And then he was outmatched by the way. But thats not anything private but its enough to make you sic sick. Pa he passed away four years after the interview 2011. And in 2010 pat buchanan ralph nader and Salman Rushdie were on all johnson was one of our guest as the british historian. We are living in the age of this is v comforting and considerable now where your email correspondence and have them while condition and of the world we have expanded in the material sense that morality appears to be no better than ever. Everything that is true you look at the time of George Washington or go further back to the time of into the middle ages of the crusades we have to admit the public morals on the whole are not substantially improved there are a large number of dreadful things that occur in anyone who has lived through the middle of the 20th century as i di did, must take a pessimistic view to on improve the moral standard nevertheless im not without hope that this can be done crystal take the view on the whole the world is a good place and its getting to be a better place but we must work our hardest to improve the standard because that is what is required. Favorite author and guest and what you reading . L did you ever have on oliver sacks . He is british for very famous what im reading right now is a good question i read newspapers and magazines. I so enjoy your program and i feel that books are so worked is rare to see someone reading a book i love when people are waiting to vote but i feel the country is at a loss especially young people not to be exposed to the great literature. Will book is on your table right now . Actually i have a table full of stuff im staying in a vacation condo sometimes there are books laying around. May be the author of the Bourne Identity . Are you staying down there on vacation or because of the pandemic . Its as long story. My parents have a place here i back and forth from kansas city now that parents are gone we still have the house that its being worked on so im lucky enough to stay on the beach. My sister is here but its a beautiful place and really the best beach in texas and not as crowded as anyone would imagine they have for the trip and you have to social distance only two people 15 feet apart with an impeller but this is the last stop if you look on a map you will most in mexico and we have a gorgeous day today. Thank you so much. I learned so much and i feel like im part of a a community because you just of fine people to read books much anymore thanks again. Thank you and tv is pretty active on social media our facebook and twitter page and instagram just remember that booktv is the best handle for that also go online booktv. Org every episode is you can click on a tab and watch any programs we are talking about. In 2018 booktv we had fiction one Nonfiction Authors but in 2018 we had only fiction authors go certain types of fiction authors that had issues and here was the list we had one david ignatius, colson whitehea whitehead, walter mosley, brad thor, brad meltzer, those where the health we had on and jody wears a bestselling author and here is part of the program in 2018. I do love the concept of a novel to educate about social justice. Because example when i wrote this book i had studies of reproductivetu rights and abortions people usually dont sit down and do that on a daily basis but they might pick up a novel and just picking up to be entertained you think that will rescue away for a few hours but if ive done my job right by the end of the book you think very hard about a topic you may otherwise not have approached. In that way i think fiction is so wonderful because it gets peoples minds to crack wide open. Host in pennsylvania go ahead. Caller i want to say my favorite Nonfiction Author was Christopher Hitchens by far and away also sebastian younger and michelle malkin. Host thats quite a range of people. Yes. [laughter] is there a connecting fiber to those for . Just the different topics they covered you couldnt get that from anyone else like Christopher Hitchens i dont know anyone else. Would you do in pennsylvania . Caller right now im off because of an injury but i was in radio. Host thank you for calling me appreciate it next we have South Carolina good afternoon. Caller hello how are you . Host what would you like to say . Caller im new to the whole concept before he went into the election only year but robert caro has been on he certainly has been my favorite i think brian lamb has spoke to him a number of times and you probably have he is a wonderful interview wee found many different respects because he knows what he reports on so intimately like Lyndon Johnson we are on tender folks waiting for him to complete the final installment. Host maybe over a year ago conan obrien who is a big fan of robert caros got him out to california to interview him and we cover that on booktv as well that was an interesting our. A lot of us it is not as high level as conan obrien but many of us are interested. Yes a lot of us are waiting for him to finish that volume. I know brian lamb is loath to keep asking when he will finish. I dont have any hints. Maybe we should email him directly and find out i think it finishes when it finishes. Absolutely and will be worth the way. Thank you. Host with history and politics we talk with the tech writers and in 2006 futurist inventor ray was on the program. Man machine will become one in the future . Hoho we will send blood cell size devices inside our bloodstream and bodies and our brains to do two things, to keep us healthier destroy pathogens and remove debris if that sounds very futuristic i point out this generation already has done it in animals to cure type one diabetes of blood insulin is out of control mit is a blood cell device destroying blood cells and then they destroyed the cell. So take this 1 billion for magnification on the capabilities of Information Technology and apply that to what we can already do and in 25 years we will have blood cell size nano bots very sophisticated and also interacting directly with biology and expanding human intelligence. How small are nano bots . Blood cell size nano is the key feature is measured in the modest number of nanometers but does it mean then the robot is 1 nanometer but the features are measured in a modest number is microns which is about the size of our blood cell and a blood cell is basically a nano robot and sophisticated white blood cell is intelligent and can detect friend from the file and devise strategies to destroy it but there is one significant deficiency watching my own i watch them were very slow its quite sluggish it took an hour and a half to destroy bacteria. Also nano robots could do that in seconds there would be no autoimmune disorders and we socan have specific pathogens that sounds very futuristic theres things were doing now today to Download Software from outside the body for parkinsons patients. Eri think as devices get smaller they will shrink technology so in 25 years they will be 100,000 times smaller in terms of key features and what they are capable for what they are already. If you want to make a comment in the last 20 minutes go ahead baltimore washington. Caller it is so wonderful to talk to you. Where to begin . As i have been watching you just the last little while, i was thinking about the last interview brian did with first for hitchens while he was getting chemotherapy it was so powerful it just weird a few weeks ago but hitchens and Christopher Buckley, pj work or Heather Mcdonald and i am just reading now intellectuals by paul johnson and magically when iwh just turned on the show , there was a clip from paul. And i do wonder why you stopped going to visit authors and their workspaces. I thought maybe i got too expensive but i enjoyed that feature when you were doing it. You are one of the many peoplet who have chastised that decision that we cut back a little bit. It was timeconsuming but you are righte in that is probably something to reconsider. I appreciate that washington dc hello j. Caller thank you forn, taking my call as a booktv fan i finish reading a couple years ago it wasnt tv but a cspan program a fascinating book on the stomping grounds of your area in the hotel and read. Host yes i think we cover that on the tv. It was . Okay. I have so many books here that i havent actually read that the program is so rich. I would like to make one comment from one of your guests, i will order jodys book because a fascinating author. She is so rich in her dialogue and perspectives and so educational thank you peters. Thank you for watching. 2011 feminist was on along with political activist pauline mayor, eric was in her, linda Hogan Michael moore, and david brooks and it was in augustco when and quarter joined us and coulter. A journalist that are allowed to interview her again second time. Why you have that . On the list Time Magazine the Guardian Jamie from front page magazine taylor hill of champions and thee Baltimore Sun and fishbowl dc why are those chosen few allowed to interview you back. Originally was only three and a chose them specifically because they ran a tape recorder when i talked and then apparently played it back before typing what i said and i promise you that is shockingly rare. Host are you misquoted a lot . [laughter] somehow i say we have to reduce the Capital Gains race price support hitler and all his workno so it is insane with the misquotes. And often the malice in my statement is there but but the firm and the figure t is completely out so originally it was simply the ones, and by the n way these were all liberals that dont agree with my politics localities in the body of the piece i dont care what they say about me just quote me accurately but then after that it was like a special request thing to say i want to be on thatst list which is a good incentive for them to have. [laughter] host i was nine years ago. Rosanne who are you reading right now. Im a first time caller them in my eighties i have been watching this Program Since it first started. Author mys an books are all political and the ones that i like in support, i pay for the ones i dont like i get them at the library so i can support the library. Host who are somehe authors that youli like . I like all political lines and i do have to say my husband is one political bent i amay the other we pay regular copies of the books and have extra copies once in a while. Host we appreciate you calling in. Speaking of politics. I love you but i hate your politics is the name of her f book which is good for the season. South carolina good afternoon. Caller good afternoon. How are you . Thank you for my education and happy 20th anniversary. I was going through a divorce and a buyout of my husband and on Marthas Vineyard and i got an attorney from cape cod i did not understand what was going on with the money market and he recommended i read the colossal failure of common sense by lawrence mcdonald. It is the inside story of the collapse of Lehman Brothers and it was fascinating to me. Host did we cover that on booktv . And we covered one book on the collapse of Lehman Brothers dont remember who. Ler caller. I been a Real Estate Broker for so long in massachusetts i wish there were more than, i did just come across a great book and i found out about it by your Television Show on cspan cant they wont pay about the coalition of the sum of the parts to leverage bad loans and the changing of how mortgaging, lending, school loans, helping the tenant landlords with the collapse and how when you buy property. That was a pretty recent book. Yes. I stay there pretty much all night for about six hours. Host n thank you for calling. 2006 awardwinning historian from Duke University John Hope Franklin was our guest he was in his nineties at the time this is when we went to visit him in his home and around. We are in so John Hope Franklins backyard he has a greenhouse back here go tell us what you do back here. I have been growing orchids for a number of years i got hooked on orchids when i was teaching one summer in 1959 at the university of hawaii. I came back and living in rooakland teaching there. I came back and brought a few orchids and they probably died because i didnt know so then i went to a greenhouse and then i got started their. These are just beginning. Is it a Specialized Task to keep these orchids healthy . Yes. Takes some doing you have to keep them clean that could be a deterrent to their success. This is a vanilla plant and vanilla is an orchid it is the most important orchid commercially. Host doctor franklin died about three years after that interview. And 2012 mark stein, randall pitney, richard were kaiser tom brokaw Stephen Johnson Kenneth Davis former senator coburn bartlett and james steele where our guests bestselling political books and exposes and Randall Robinson was on the program , amy goodman, Melanie Phillips and by the way now working on a trilogy on the early days of the us. Ben carson and ben shapiro, john lewis, kitty kkelly and Christina Hoff sommers. In 2009 college brought him up and we talked about him but Christopher Buckley was on the Program Writing satirical action and here is a little bit of his program. I got the idea thank you for smoking one day i was watch the lehrer news hour as it was called they had someone on who was to present the latest evidence that something was bad for you and he had at least two phds after his name at the bottom of the screen. So to balance it out they had someone from the Tobacco Industry which is the lobby every time this scientist from the National Institutes of not smoking or whatever said something and presented the evidence which had seven words were incomprehensible like an inhibitor viaduct or something she would say oh please. [laughter] and it would make it sound it was just the most prosperous thing in the world. So i thought that has to be an urinteresting job and that i could come to hang out those little oblique what i was up to and that i could come to hang out those little oblique what i was up to after coupleso days theres something im dying to ask you but i feel a little awkward she was smoking and a beautiful smoker and said like i know was a nice girl like me doing in a place like this and i said yes. That is exactly it. She said im just paying the mortgage and then her book becomes the yuppie man. [laughter] host Christopher Buckley 2009. A text from mary in michigan. My favorite interview was Geraldine Brooks during the reflection i love the year of wonders and the people in the book and the next Nonfiction Book hopefully is cast by isabel wilkerson. Robert caro has been referenced a couple times in this program he is writing the multi volume set on Lyndon Johnson here he is talking about one of those volumes. I will go live in the Southern City for as long as it takes for me to find out exactly the differences it made in the life of black people in the south of Lyndon Johnsons. Y. You know you live yet . No. It takes time to figure that ou out. I was on a book tour now a and then spend two months in france. And then i will start. Thats the idea i know you mentioned going to vietnam. Yes. You rememberec everything. Because trying to write about political power if you dont write about it not only about the man who uses it but the effect on the people it is used for good or ill but Lyndon Johnson to the great Civil Rights Act through the Voting Rights act in his presidenc presidency, transformed the political power of black people in america. What does that mean cracks now the sidewalks are paved now you have a sheriff you can vote for sheriff. Sewers exactly what and you have more hope than your father did that your childrens life will be better than yours. However the other side of johnsons presidency is vietnam and one of the things i intend to do is to show what it means when a modern industrialized nation makes war certainly not a primitive nation but rural. So want to go to vietnam and see how that works and live in a vietnamese villages the horrible thing about that the b52 seemed so high not only with the invisible from the ground you also cannot hear them see were not even know they were being pumped until it hit. Host 2014 mark levin, neil joseph, luis rodriguez, ron paul michael korda, Arthur Brooks all appeared. Neil Degrasse Tyson was with us in 2017 and here is a portion. I was asked by the New York Times from congress and they thought they would havede fun and asked people what solutions do they have forgetting things through congress and fixing things . The way they asked if you were president what word you do . What solutions do you have . So i will back if i were president , i would it be president. [laughter] you can find it on my website is called if i were president it will take you my favorite is the New York Times probably duplicated it on my website because they cut out a paragraph because there wasnt enough space in the full response is there and it comes down to the expectation if you run for office, you somehow can change everything. And im notot convinced of that. It is a little opposite of the lobbyist they go straight to the politician to influence a politician to serve the interest of the lobbyist it represents. For me, any elected official represents people put him into office. So as an educator what matters is not so much who the official is but what is the state of enlightenment of who was doing the voting . Because if we recognize and value of how it works it would never dream of voting for someone who doesnt know that because that person would then not represent the full interest. So i would rather educate and electorate to put people in office who can make scientifically informed decisions about everything they do rather than just install myself into office and lead people who dont yet have this knowledge or insight. 88 percent of Congress Stands for reelection every two years. See you can convince one congressman or another but then you have to start all over again. If you educate the electorate we are good. I go to the bahamas and elect people who will take this country into the future rather. Ack into the cavend host we have run out of time we have a video to show you from michelle malkin, noam chomsky, chomsky, studs terkel, and to me carter unfortunately we are unable to get to the video problem those programs are available on our website at booktv. Org watch in their entirety thank you for being with us and also the past 20 years. I am not opposed to taking down the confederate soldiers and confederate leaders. They were traders. I think to take those statues down is fine. But i do, i am appalled actually went statues of washington fall or when the dc government has a commission to suggest that if we dont start explaining the Washington Monument and the Jefferson Memorial better, then maybe they should be moved to some other place. They cant do this because those are on private land. But i am appalled at this. In the book for is usually they are slaveholders in a new slaveholder was wrong jefferson put a stain on virginia and others spoke of it as a mortal sin and jefferson calls it a sin against god. So they were fully aware of the dilemma of which they lived in the contradiction. But they found themselves unable, the circumstances were not such they could achieve total emancipation that justice demanded. But that did not stop them once they understood what a unique place they were in and what you need time they were in it was all with the scottish enlightenment and the idea freedom and justice and equality were central to the scottish enlightenment in washington educated himself so they were perfectly ready based on the very highest principle and thats what they did it is a contradiction. But i assure am glad they did it. But i assure am glad they d but i assure am glad they did but i assure am glad they did