X are having. Reminded viewers about the purpose of your organization. Also if you would could you tell our viewers how you are funded . Judicial watch is funded through voluntary donations than the American People. We are a Nonprofit Educational Foundation that tries to bring more transparency and accountability and the rule of law to our nations public life. One of the issues of Transparency Organization spends a lot of time with previous at up to date is set of this look into the Russian Investigation of the background of the. Remind people i guess because we heard about it a lot but we like people again what was essentially your take on what was done in that investigation. Guest my take is that the Obama Administration, the Hillary Clinton campaign were very nervous about the legal issues surrounding Hillary Clintons emails and, frankly, other misconduct of the Obama Administration in 2016. As a related to Hillary Clintons emails and as related to the targeting of President Trump. They double downas on it, manufactured false allegations against President Trump to excuse unprecedented spy operations and in later criminal investigations into trump and his team. Host as far as all that investigation, what substantially came out of that . I know saw the Mueller Report but as far as the look into the investigation itself what conclusive evidence have we found . Guest recently we have information that our Intelligence Community had intelligence that the russians evidently listening to Hillary Clinton and company news that Hillary Clinton was making it all up or was trying to use these russia allegations, collusion allegations, that were fanciful to distract the American People from email allegations. And that was briefed to the president , barack obama, and it was actually refer to the fbi for the investigation but obviously not much was done with it. Host as far as the actual release of information one of the things people looking for particularly after following thf story was something called the Durham Report and releases from that. What was that report and what was released from it . Guest the room hasnt released anything. They have been some disclosures by the office of director of National Intelligence and other, Judicial Watch, Judicial Watch received some key documents about what was going on, but durham has had one prosecution plea deal and not much else. Host the Washington Post reported last week as far as investigations, there still no criminal charges or public report on this. Why do you think that is . Guest you have to ask the Justice Department. I think its a real disappointment. Doran was appointed in april of 2019. As far as i am concerned theres no excuse for the lack of action. I am not seeing evidence he has actually done a series investigation, compare and contrast to the muellers operation. You saw what a significant d. C. Criminalization. Jeff granger is operating, witnesses come all the indicia of serious criminal investigation, none of that being present in the durham operation. Host most recent days the te president comes you probably say this as well, set out in in a t as far as the authorization of a declassification of sorts. Talk about that tweet, what resulted from it and what do you expect from it . Guest he said he was ordering a declassification everything related to the Russian ProgramHillary Clintons emails as well, which were very heavily involved in. The Justice Department has been anything. They have released anything tony us. I dont know whether thats legally right or true, but my question is why is the Justice Department and the state department always agencies continuing to cover up . This is not like required by law. It is usually discretionary despite the president wishes to the contrary. Host when you use the word coverup, who is behind the coverup and are you pointing directly to the president s people appointed by the president to handle these issues . Guest someone like Christopher Wray is responsible, attorney general barr is responsible. They know these documents are dont haveut theyne much interest in having been released in a timely way, if at all. Host i suppose not the first time you and asked but as far as of the timing software out from the Russian Investigation everything behind that, why do you think that matters today . Guest well because as i call it the coup is still going on picu stalevo legal leak targeting President Trump of classified information. What took place during the Russian Investigation was the crime in my view. The movie have about it, the more information we have about it, the moree accountability wil be. Certainly its not sufficient to get a criminal investigation or prosecution going but if we dont know whatti they did thers going to be federal public pressure on the Justice Department to hold them accountable. One of the reasons durham has been able to skate without much in the way of having to do anything is because only now were learning some key aspects about the corruption behind russia gate. That brendan knew and barack obama knew specifically brennan and barack obama knew that the russia gate smears were just that we have information about going back to the beginning that flynn was knowingly and falsely targeted for prosecution by the Obama Administration lyand then the mueller operation. We are only hearing about that in the last few months. Did durham know about this early on and if he did, why hasnt he acted on it this is tom been joiningus for this discussion and you can give us a call. If you want on the phone lines, you can also post on twitter and our Facebook Page as far as our discussion with tom thin. The latest entry into related matters tom thin are these series of stories coming out of the new yorkpost. On its face what youthink of them . They confirm there is significant corruption with the way biden and his family were operating during his vice presidency, probably before that that they were trading on his name, trading on his office to line their pockets. Thats what the evidence shows and it shows you why, even what went on, lets forget about impeachment and the true attack on president from earlier in the year. The president asked a question or two of ukrainians about what was going on with biden and burisma and they went crazy, his political opposition. Now we know why they went crazy. He was onto something and he was on to something bigger than he knew. When you say then it confirms, how do you clarify that . How do you qualify that . Vice President Biden admitted firing or having fired the top prosecutor in the ukraine that coincidentally had been investigating his sons board, burisma. We have emails coming out not from computers left by hunter biden but from the state department showing that they had longstanding concerns the email suggested, longstanding concern about Biden Burisma and one capital official said its the gift that keeps on giving and complained about the russians trolling biden over the burisma issue. Because it was a big issue in the state department, we saw that confirm in the state testimony of durham and were seeing it confirmed in documents and now were having it filled in, the blood still then as to what monies were being sloshed around sin these new hunter biden emails. You heard them from the statement you made that there were a lot of investigations tthat called for the removalof that investigator anyway because he was slow walking the process, how do you respond . Those are afterthefact rationalizations. How many prosecutors does the president get involved in firing . Its insane. So the New York Post story is there a delectable line in your mind from the computer itself to the person who found it to Rudy Giuliani . Is there a direct line to evidence or is there still essence as regards to the validity of the evidence. The post tried to figure out the chain of custody and i hope the Justice Department and fbi are concerned about it, im concerned they are covering it up to undermine allegations. But it seems to me a relatively forward issue is to figure out whether the emails are legit or not , he mainly we have information tu that Hunter Bidens lawyer was seeking the return of the material and i havent seen anything from the Biden Campaign to suggest emails are not accurate. In fact, they are confirming as the Washington Post piece by David Ignatius this week where biden has reported to tell someone you knew how to make money for the family and then we have politico being told it didnthappen formally, things are piling up around biden and i will suspect it would get worse. The times is a story taking a look at this issue and they say in its first paragraph for the first sentence says hunter biden himself on the laptop computer at a wilmington Delaware Delaware shop and he later gave the materials to president attorney, that shop owner as according to the Washington Times told that to a senate committee. When you confirm that to an official government body youre putting yourself at legal risk if youre lying so you know, lets get it all out. I want to hear what joe biden has tosay about these emails. Did he for instance get any money from his brother and his son . Did he get money from them . Where was that money coming ey from and we want the details about where hunter biden was gettingmoney . The scandal of the biden issue is significant obviously. Im concerned about why the Justice Department andfbi had been sitting on this for almost a year. Whathave they been doing . Attorney general barr said i dont see any evidence about obama involvement, theyre not going to be investigated or pursuedelegantly. Did he know about the laptop at the time and if not, why not . Whats the likelihood any other information from the Justice Department or fbi is going to come up so close to the election . We may just get documents in the ordinary course of the scheduling are of our information freedom of information lawsuits, im not sure what comes out between now andthen. We may get documents about doctor politico and their communication about coronavirus as early as next week so we never know whats going to be the next day. Tom fitton our guest to talk about these issues with Judicial Watch. Or call from new hampshire, this is area youre on with ourguest, go ahead. Thank you. When donald trump asked the russians for help during his campaign, while we were fighting the russians in syria, i think that should have been enough to open a full investigation on donald trump and his minions and they should have been totally vetted out of the campaign, the race at that time. They would have found out all the ties between Donald Trumps men , his Campaign People between them and russia, then and ukraine and we wouldnt be in this debacle right now with this sociopath running our country into the ground under a russian. This is a russian to over our country that donald trump and his people are perpetrating against the American People, democracy and against our constitution. Then we had donald trump shaking down the ukraine which is extortion. Donald trump lying to the American People 20,000 times and not protecting us from covid19. 250,000 americansdead. Guest you brought up a couple topics so we will let our guest address that. Guest on the russian nsside of the crazed Conspiracy Theory not backed up by evidence. Neither trump nor any other american knowingly worked with the russians tointerfere in our campaign. Thats the conclusion of the Mueller Report. Thats the conclusion of every indictment mueller brought related to the russian hacking alleged of the dnc and democrat emails. Theres no there there so youre saying a bunch of words that are backed up by reality. Host from massachusetts, james is next, democrats line. Caller good morning, Mister Fitton id like to ask you a couple of questions. You mentioned shortly if you testify before congress and tell a lie it should be criminal consequences and id like to know if you think when you brought up doctor fauci, do you believe that the four times he went before congress and swore under sworn testimony that donald trump was following all the information, doing everything he was told , do you believe doctor fauci should go to jail for that . One other question ihave for you , Lindsey Graham had an interview with eiji horowitz and if you want, i get the archive if i could, if you go on to the archive you can find that entire testimony and theres a picture of Lindsey Graham and that picture is just about a caption that said please listen to 35 minutes of Lindsey Grahams lies and conspiracy theories. Though thats whats going on at cspan and every other newsagency in america. Answer ship and carrying the water of joe biden like i cant even believe. Host Mister Fitton, go ahead. Guest im not aware of doctor fauci lying to congress, iwasnt sure what the question was there. Im not sure what the question is about Inspector General horwitz although horowitz report is worth reading. His report i would say and that to me is something everyone ought to be reading if you havent already because it really demonstrates the fraudulent nature and criminal nature of the obama gate russia gate attack on our democracy and our republic. Republican line, virginia, go ahead. Good morning cspan. I have a couple of questions about virginia voting. And there was over 500,000 votes that are being counted or something or there was something wrong with them. I was wondering about that and i was wondering about the investigation over the last three years and how prosecutors people erase all their phones. Is it going to besomething coming out of that . Mister fitton, thats a good segue because one of the issues Judicial Watch does is this issue of mail in voting and watching over that. Talk about the work youre involved in there and if you could related to the colors question. Guest our concern is and Judicial Watch has several lawsuits on this issue is that the roles are clean enough to mail blindly into where you have balance being mailed to people who havent asked for them, ballot applications being mailed to people who havent asked for them and in this election cycle is going to be 100 million total ballot applications k that people havent asked for them. Typically ballot applications or ballots are mailed in most states to people who asked for them and in some states you have vote by mail generally weve had this massive increase in the vote by mail operation as i said in a way that puts i think, increases the risk for voter fraud. I think the pole is referencing numbers that occurred during a 2020 primary where you have 550,000 vote by mail ballots thrown out because of challenges and other problems with the balance. That number was above the 319,000 number for the 2016 general election. The concern is youre going to have potentially millions of people disenfranchised because they relied on mail in ballot to vote and if you vote by mail, its been generally understood your vote is more likely to be challenged, intercepted , lost or as i say thrown out. And my view is you should be voting in person. Your colleague at Judicial WatchChris Farrell took a look at some of the inconsistencies or problems that have arisen in specific areas of the United States. Overall you think if those are true is it about to sway anelection . That problem is we dont know and thats why you want to have a system in place that reassures people that the votes are going to be counted confidently and accurately, that only eligible voters are voting. We Just Announced d a study last week that showed in 29 states there are 1. 8 million extra names on the roles ra meaning people who youve got more people on the roles that are living there ineligible to vote so when youve got dirty lists, it can mean dirty elections and my concern is that theyre going to be counting ballots well after election day, not so much because they got a lot of ballots on election day but because some states are counting ball