The american politics, shes a contributor to a more other publications of the Washington Examiner and the New York Post in a cnn contributor, we thank you for being with us. Thank you so much for having me. Let me begin with a piece that you wrote a few weeks ago, were seen more demonstrations in chester new york after the death of daniel crude in kenosha, wisconsin, my question based on reporting, how are these riots and demonstrations playing out in states like wisconsin, pennsylvania, ohio. As we know there is a difference between it or when something turned into destructive or disruptive to peoples lives, i think a lot of people are very supportive of the concerns of people that are out there protecting but when they see businesses get destroyed, when they go downtown, whether they live in a suburb or in a city or town and they see things boarded up or theyre out eating as what happened in pittsburgh last week and, or what happened in kenosha when protests turn violent, this made people pause in wonder, what is the best direction for the country and they think about how they might change their vo vote. I think this has a possibility that kenosha for me, ive spent a lot of time in kenosha when writing my book and i spent a lot of time there throughout the past four years, kenosha is like the everyman of american towns, its a suburb, is sort of has everything every town has across the country. Whether you live in north, no, florida, pennsylvania, ohio across the midwest to the west, people look at kenosha and say there goes my town, how does this impact how i vote, what do i think about defending the police or Police Reform that might restrict the ability for them to protect my treasure, my family or my community, i think it has shifted some people and making them pause and consider how theyre going to vote going forward. You know pennsylvania probably better than anyone el else, you are in cambria county, the most recent story the forgotten counties that will make their voices heard, as you talk to the voters, though supporting the trump pens campaign or the biden harris campaign, what are you hearing . I am hearing that people are concerned again were gonna go back to the issuesl concerning kenosha, obviously jobs are always the most important to a person because it impacts their family and their life and their community and impacts the tax, good jobs, Everything Else is forcing. So jobs is the number one thing among voters both sides of the aisle, the pandemic has made that more with different burdens on what is going to happen next. There are jobs out there that welwill come back with the serve industry, people are concerned about that but theres also concerns about if what happened in kenosha or what happened in pittsburgh over happened in rochester starts to make it out to the communities, how will their local elected officials manage that. And then that brings us to whos best to lead us through this kind of service, this instability that biden would argue is happening under president trumps watch, then you should come towards me, trump would argue the exact opposite saying it would be worse for the president , those of the things voters are considering. Some of the details is a new poll in florida essentially dead even, 48 for the president and 48 for joe biden, real clear politics which takes an average of polling and battleground states as we look at the numbers has joe biden up three points in new hampshire, up four points in nevada, up two points in arizona and up five pointed wisconsin, as you well know this is very much within the margin of air in the key states. Yeah, they are in the margin of error, i think we all understood biden was not going to have a hole that largely coming out of the gate. But one of the things that thatg nags at me when i look at polling, its not that i disbelieve polling, i think polling is an exact science but i do think sometimes people are not very honest about their their support goes, in our book the great revolt, we did extensive polling after we went out and interviewed people in ohio, pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan and iowa and we identified trump voters, digital or family member, friend if you are going to support him, 34 said no, its always in the back of my mind, biden still is leading in every one of these states but i think we are going to come down to a very close race and its sort of a jump all and it could go either direction. If you support the biden harris ticket the numbers to 27,488,000 and for those of you supporting the trump ticket, if youre undecided that numbers 2,027,428,002. How many undecided voters have you come across as you travel across the midwest. Those are very rare, people are pretty much set in their team jerseys, their either abiding person, their either antitrump person or approach trump person, but i have run across voters that dont have any idea idea where theyre going and that may perplex a lot of strategists or people in washington, but the thing is most people dont follow politics in the way that we do, they dont obsess over it, theyre not on social media not constantly watching cable news, and their life is not dependent on everything that happens, a lot of people dont tune into the very last moment. You had a piece that was in early mid august and i want to show the headline, the economy is struggling but gun sales are soaring, where you find out. Its reallyar hard to find ad harder to find ammunition, the surge began at the beginning of the coronavirus and people did not have an idea when we started to walk down, what that meant did they need to protect their homes, was mayhem going to spill out into the street, that did not really happen with the virus but at the end of may with the shooting or the death of george floyd in police custody, the protests began, yet a surge in april, between march and april and then you have the high surge of gun sales and people believe that they need to protect themselves, they also are havi having, this is a trend we seen since 1978 they get less and less and as they see marches that say d from the police or replace the Police Department or c the commanders in the Police Department in rochester, their concerns that there will not be able to protect the property. One of the things it was reallyy interesting people going into that shop in pennsylvania, there was reallyth thoughtful about purchasing a gun, a lot of them were firsttime gun owners and they put a lot of thought into the purchase and the people there that work there thee only shop were very helpful and they also made sure that they align them with someone who can train and help the states use it and go to a gun range and so is a really interesting experience to watch that. Along with her colleague, our guest is the author of this book the great revolt inside the populace coalition, reshaping american politics joining us from pittsburgh via zoom and is on phone from north carolina. Good morning, give any questions or comments. How much of these calls of disturbances since somebody puts his knee on a mans neck for 90 seconds,. Thank you for the question comment. I dont think anybody reasonably looks at that and is comfortable with what happened to mr. Floyd, i think the other argument is any segment of population, there is a certainr percentage of Police Officers that are just bad or the not not competent, no one wants to get rid of the bad cop other than about police officer. David in texas a supporter of the president. Good morning one of the things that i find, i wish you guys could figure out how to filter that, Financial Information the president talks about regulation and how regulation and getting rid of excess regulation has helped the economy and i thoroughly agree without. An example of that would be how to trump a administration defeated the isis in two years taken overtw from obama and the Obama Administration had rules and regulations having to do engagementles of because we were doing six or seven airstrikes today, the Trump Administration remove those ridiculous rules and regulation allowing the military to do the airstrikes of 100 today and the results are pretty obvious, the argument over socialism, they keep using examples like venezuela and things like that, i appreciate the argument but there is a much better one, britain after world war ii, winston churchill, the hero of the britons fired him almost right away, they brighten socialism which by the time led to market thatcher just before president reagans election and they saw the results in the socialism has done in the nationalization industry and Boris Johnson election, not his election but the parliamentary election that gave him them majority that he needed to push the brexit changes through, he got the biggest majority in 150 years because the people were so afraid of Jeremy Corbett in a socialism because they had experienced it, thats a socialism and best comparison for america and what we would experience as that type of turn not the other and one more thing if i could if you got time, after the election, they talk about wanting us to come back together and 9 11 there was a flot of stuff i wish we could have 912, america has always been thiswa way, i spent a lot f time reading history, i just finished with johns book on thomas jefferson. The second inaugural address of thomas jefferson, he is lambasted in his way, the press for the same reasons donald trump does today. Im going to stop you there thank you for the call Margaret Thatcher one in 1979 with the conservatives thought that was a precursor to the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980. Is there a parallel today with Great Britain and the u. S. . I think you could make that argument. And a lot of times its happened in ways, our cultures are very similar. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. And and so, president barack obama was a reaction to president bush. President trump was a reaction to barack obama. I thank you saw the same thing of a seesaw backandforth in the uk as well. We tend to swing back and forth even just look in your state of pennsylvania we traditionally will elect a governor as a democrat and then keeps for two terms and then go for republicans to keep them for two terms. We do swing back and forth and sometimes we put the brake pedals on policies that had their foot in the last administration and sometimes we are our ideology have shifted in a state because of the economy or culture or combination of those. So on Election Night as a the returns come in from the commonwealth of pennsylvania, what county, what part of the state where you keep a close eye on to determine whether it is a fight and or a trump win in pennsylvania . Essentially i will do what i did and if people could check out my story today there is, 2016 identified ten counties, including erie where you are from, along with cambria and washingtonam and these are the counties that do not have the larger populations of philadelphia as the color counties that surrounded the suburban counties but what they need to do in these counties is turnout about 1 or about 2000 more voters if each of these counties to offset what happens in philadelphia as well as Allegheny County that surrounds pittsburgh. Our guest is salena zito and we welcome those listening on cspan radio purge contribute to another of different publications clean and the Washington Examiner and the New York Post and coauthor of the book of the populist movement and you see her often on cnn as a contributor. Bernie from dear ford, florida. Morning. Caller good morning britt i have a question about Social Security and our seniors. We have been having Social Security since 1936. Under the present administrati administration, president trump, wants to cancel the payroll tax but what would the results be . 13 of every dollar that is earned in this country feeds the Social Security so he promised if elected to make it permanent. That means Social Security will be bankrupt in three years or less. All you see out there that probably means no more checks because bankrupts cant pay you. Iat is the result, if you look at your paycheck, those that are working, you will also find payroll taxes taken out for disability and medicare. How many seniors inme this couny rely on medicare as their medical insurance . I do. Im a senior. Host bernie, what are you hearing, salena zito . Guest bernie, thank you. That was a great question. Bernie and every Senior Citizen in this country i argued a few weeks ago that the voting blocks that will to decide this election, it will not be [inaudible] or suburban mom or dads and it will not be people protesting in the streets but one of the most reliable voting blocks in the country, 70 of them consistently vote every four years. We leave this program here to go live to a discussion on the use of technology by the black lives Matter Movement and other activist groups. Live coverage from the Brookings Institution here on csn2