Transcripts For CSPAN2 After Words Sally Pipes False Premise

Transcripts For CSPAN2 After Words Sally Pipes False Premise False Promise 20240713

Into the president ial election in a recent poll and then to be extremely important for co but 53 percent support single perry lined a single payer but now 65 percent support the public option and then to call that steppingstone approach. But then the proof is in the pudding look at the election cycle a few years ago so to make their reason for that so they campaigned on repeal and replace. And then the house and the senate and then to turn it upside down and that will be the issue and then to have a Cohesive Strategy to educate why to have a marketbased Health Care System not controlled such as the federal government. But senator coburn said five years after president obama legislative achievement went into full effect many lowend income people have been forced into plans with as high as 12000 deductibles. Obama care will turn ten mard this year i thought for sure it would be overturned but it wasnt but senator coburn is absolutely right. The American People do not like obama care and in the year 2020 a lot of people i have spoken to that they will keep their doctors and then they call the Doctors Office and say we are not taking the exchange plans. So really is overturned in the Health Care System. With those people that are uninsured. For the subsidies on the exchanges and those that could not sign up for obama care. We need choice in healthcare. And then to get that healthcare and not where the government is mandating benefits. And that limit the choices and the greatest feeling and from patients or doctors. Not federal governments or state governments. Every bed he thought we could repeal when they take the house back the republicans made a mistake not to explain to the American People what would happen with preexisting conditions because they said 120 million americans will lose their healthcare that would be a disaster. And they will not lose their coverage but those that have chronic conditions in the individual market those of the people we need to take care of and doctor price in the house we talk a lot about getting the federal government to give money to the states and that the younger people against obama care rather than buying insurance with three or 400 a month and then to say with the individual mandate rather than health coverage. Those with those inhibition. And i have to agree. And to support the party and if you look at the American Health care act. Then to cover preexisting conditions. But that is my job as a former canadian to educate the American People on why a full government takeover of the health care will lead to ration care, with long waiting list and a shortage of doctors parker and higher taxes. Senator warren the average family pays 13311 per year in taxes for a system that denies them care. Lets go into the premise of medicare for all. As you describe it is the shiny new toy that the democrats are holding out. As we quite often say in politics that perception is reality and sheet it and they perceive this to be the reality. Exactly medicare for all and Bernie Sanders talks about this platform for many years. And medicare for all. In with cory booker and Elizabeth Warren. And to tell the American People and that everybody would have access and how much that would cost for doctors or a long waiting list for where i am from fadimans mom senator sanders is adamant to find out that he is at 30 percent but in a recent poll this week the number one candidate in california. That young people are buying into that senator with free healthcare. So talk about the contrast with Bernie Sanders. It is a contrast. Sent you pointed out and running against Hillary Clinton the support was high in 2000 and it continued to grow 40 percent in 201972 percent of democrats however when we Start Talking to eliminate private Health Insurance. We do have employersponsored coverage so when you see in the polls that 59 percent we want medicare for all but but not if you lose your private insurance than the numbers drop down to 37 percent. How do you feel about medicare for all of your taxes go up Quick Support goes down also at 37 percent for co the American People dont understand what medicare for all means it sounds great and it is free but you have to get under the weeds and explain what that means for their healthcare and they cannot keep their employersponsored coverage. 71 percent to have esi they rated as good so Elizabeth Warren gets an applause i never met anybody who likes their Health Insurance. Who is she talking to . I like mine. These are lies to the American People. If nobody likes it then why wouldnt the government take it over . People like medicare those on it now generally when you say medicare people like it. And from what it will happen. If you look at medicare today from 1965 with the Great Society we are spending seven or 800 billion per year on medicare but it would be bankrupt by 2030. A lot of people have upwards of 50 percent of people with Medicare Advantage or supplemental because one out of three doctors are not taking new medicare patients because they are reimbursed 40 percent below for treating People Like Us with private coverage that is an important statistic it would be far worse so just think of medical doctors if they pay 40 percent below they will quit and retire and to your point the best and brightest have gone into medicine and now theyre deciding not to. And then also doctors are employees of the government they determine what kind of medicine they can practice you could be the best Orthopedic Surgeon i am the worst but we are paid the same and if we are over budget and what happens in november . Now we just have to go on vacation. What about these other plans with Solutions Like adding a public option or allowing them to buy into medicare or medicai medicaid . 65 percent now support the public option but if you go back to when Kamala Harris said she i thought she could be the candidate but her candidacy dropped her waffling on medicare for all so she lost support and she is out senator warren of course up until very recently was a supporter of healthcare takeover now she says within the first 100 days i do the public option my third year it would be medicare for all so all of these people that has the Government Insurance plan in these exchanges they were the their government for medicare for all i think its a complete lie we know that talking to people that senator warren Joe Biden Pete buddha judge switch to the government option plan. Even mayor pete has said that while he supports the public option if it doesnt work after couple of years that he would go to medicare for all. Medicare for all is a misnomer because it should be called what it is a onesizefitsall government run healthcare system. Right a couple years ago a princeton economics professor sadly passed away a year and a half ago there was at an International Debate talking about ration care in canada he interrupted me and said you have an example of a singlepayer system in this country and it is terrific. He said the v. A. But of course this is before all the information came out that our vets were not getting top care they are on waiting list they dont have access to the greatest drugs and biologics that are available of people with private coverage. We really have to educate people in the American People understand the Veterans Administration is a disaster. Is that what we want . These politicians are really pushing about medicare for all singlepayer and then to have a public option just to compete and my own ob gyn said recently i lose a lot of money to the california medicaid patients and i have to make my salary that i get really good care. So talk about the sanders plan. And friend of yours. [laughter] i do know her and thats fine. But actually they would destroy medicare as we know it and for Young Americans that would mean they are into a new government run healthcare system. Exactly chairman of the medicare for all caucus is really pushing to tell the American People. Shes from Washington State but senator sanders say it would be eliminated it would be for everybody the only two programs left are the Health Services and the second would be the Veterans Administration. And they admitted when asked with the people that work in the Insurance Industry she admitted they would lose their jobs and Elizabeth Warren when confronted and said they can work in Auto Industry or Life Insurance but there is no comparison. Of course Bernie Sanders said one. 2 billion will lose their jobs but i will set up a federal Training Program to retrain all of those people within three to five years they will have a new career we just know that will not work and it would be incredibly expensive. You say medicare for all gives the government a monopoly for Health Insurance and forbids doctors to participate to accept private payment from any service the government covers you just mentioned to the ob gyn i will lose money on medicaid and medicare is breakeven and that i make my salary. If you take that away what does that mean to salaries of healthcare workers pharmacists and healthcare workers. All of these people it will have a tremendous impact on your ability to keep your job that also means the federal government, who will do all this work in the Insurance Industry . Whos going to do these jobs . The government has to expand tremendously because there will be a whole new bureaucracy to pay doctors my cousin is an ophthalmologist in vancouver and says i find it amazing the American People think its a wonderful the government pays their bills do you know how long it takes the government to pay me when my budget is done in november i have to go on vacation it will be a disaster for people who work in hospitals and doctors and even hospitals a lot of rural hospitals will go out of business with singlepayer government system. Even more rural hospitals because they have to travel many miles to find doctors and hospitals. You are from canada. Being a canadian native you have seen it spent the federal government fully took over in 1984. No private coverage unless medically necessary. What is medically necessary . Nothing that is cosmetic surgery or laser surgery. The price has come down but not because the government is involved but so and 84 the government took over i work at the Fraser Institute we started a project if your partner died on the hospital waiting list the average wait time for primary care doctor with treatment to a specialist to go to a general practitioner who then refers you it wasine. Three weeks last year the average wait time increased almost 21 weeks. 608,000 canadians cross the border every year to pay out of pocket to get the mri the orthopedic surgery or hip replacement or valve replacement and things like that because they feel their health is too important to wait so long. Where do we go others will have to practice offshore to set up ships to get the best in medicine. The American People demand it is a wealthy country my mom used to say i hope you are not the impatient american which i am now but when the doctor says im sorry you cannot get an appointment for your colonoscopy from eight months or one year even though its a problem you say that will be nice . But a lot of people are so polite and they dont know anything different because most have grown up under single. Under singlepayer and then was under 1984. We talked primarily about sanders and competitors. Thats what they have in canada no private coverage for anything considered medically necessary which is the majority of things you can get private insurance if youre canadian to come on vacation if you get sick of course what they pay doesnt cover any of the cost here so people get private coverage for travel or having a private room in a hospital. And ambulance going to the hospital or things like that. The Bernie Sanders plan is even more comprehensive. The average wait in canada for neurosurgery is 33 weeks for every 1 Million People we have 16 mri machines so it is ridiculous but bernie wants to add free dental free eye free drugs free longterm care so between 30 or 40 trillion over ten years with bernies plan he agrees last evening and said i dont know how much they will cost the country that he knows it will be very expensive as we saw today the increase of the federal deficit of the bernie plan would go up on the highen highend. s if you add more than canada to bring in drugs under the Prime Minister and found out it is so expensive they could not afford to do it. Which makes our system even more comprehensive and then to have gate came gatekeepers that would far exceed the supply of healthcare that can be given thats what i have that 30 or 40 trillion over ten years thats on the low side. Probably the two most prominent examples of medicare for all is canada and uk. So to understand it in canada and the United Kingdom you still have the outofpocket expense as well as denmark and finland there are still outofpocket expenses you have responsibility for. Exactly canadas one of the three countries that went to singlepayer health care the other is cuba and north korea. [laughter] United Kingdom has a universal coverage system. It covers about 90 percent of the brits they allow private coverage in some companies are American Companies this is becoming more popular because in september there were over 4 million brits on a waiting list to get treatment and the Cancer Treatment should not be delayed more than 62 days but they have not met that standard in the uk for over five years. More important under the wh who, brits of most industrialized countries that tells you something about Life Expectancy with cancer with the government controlled system. You mentioned a few minutes ago obviously a big concern. How much will this cost quick. 32 trillion over ten years . Not million or billion. And said that would go to the end dash to the cost that the increase of federal spending over ten years. The total cost was between 50 or 60 trillion over ten years. It wont be free taxes have to go up with a new 4 percent income tax that is very little income with a new seven. 5 percent payroll tax Elizabeth Lawrence is not paid by federal tax because remember they would not increase taxes on anyone but they dont realize who pays that are the employees and they are a middleclass with new financial institutions. If you double all the Corporate Income taxes and personal income taxes taxes would have to go up and it wont be free because when you were in pain and cant work to pay a ration and not get access to timely care. Also a cost to employer. Right. One of the things we have been working on in congress us energy and commerce is Prescription Drug places we havent but there have been proposals on the other side for price control for Prescription Drugs. Our concern it is stifling innovation. It started when i was ten. [laughter] but the point is over that period of time i see nothing short of millet on miracles. I want to make it clear but there are other things we can do with price controls. To not putting into research and development. It would totally stifle innovation. And there is a reason for it. All the price controls from canada to england you can use your shirt to that Development Drug and then it cost 3 billion and getting it to market so we are the innovator and the incubator coming out for muscular dystrophy and alzheimers so we want to keep the pipeline in this country open to import drugs from the United States and people say their drugs are cheaper and thats price control but they dont realize the review board decides they will be and at what price if they decide to treat muscular dystrophy it does seem to get onto the formulary. So then this would be a disaster for all of us who depend on these innovations we say 7. 17 it used to be with a gallbladder situation you might not make it through the anesthetic there are drugs now before surgery and hospital cost was reduced as well. I get the example all the time when i came out of school in 1980 if you were diagnosed with Heart Disease you would di die. It was essentially that now we could curate. That pill is 85000 but it is a cure if you have a liver transplant many t

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