Transcripts For CSPAN2 Campaign 2018 New York Senate Debate 20240716

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News app as well as all of our social media pages, facebook, twitter, youtube or where broadcasting this debate as well in its entirety, upon up close Channel Seven sunday morning at 11 00. The rules are simple. Each scanned with a 45 seconds to answer the question, 30 seconds for any rebuttal. By coin toss the first question goes to his children and well get right to it. We saw this week many forms of domestic terrorism in the country and especially in new york. A growing number of explosive devices deliver to offices and homes of people of been critical of the president including those of former president s and newark headquarters for a worldwide cable tv news channel. The Bigger Picture some people believe this represents a kind of all time low for political discourse in america in terms of vitriol and anchor. If you are elected how would you try to in this the trail . I first want to thank the First Responders and Law Enforcement who kept people say in these attacks. We have to take terrorism seriously. Since 9 11 new york is still the number one terror target cyberguard to make sure we have the resource of our First Responders to fight terrorism. We have told of these particular terrorists accountable for these heinous acts and to be clear no one is responsible for those attacks except for those terrorists. But to your broader question, as imam of young kids ive been very concerned about the climate. Climate. Weve seen a rise in hate crimes across new york. In all instances, antisemitism, racism, and that muslim, at the immigrant, homophobia. I believe we need to have a role model and why desperate i dont think this president has done that and he unfortunately been to visit and put it into the climate that i i believe we ned to bring people together, fight for whats right, care about one another and member thats who we are as a country. Ms. Farley can send questions or if you are elected how we tried into visit for yall that is effective this country . This is an act of terrorism. Its got to stop. My opponent wants to abolish ice which is the group that actually is primarily responsible for stopping care. We cant allow that to happen. Ice was good that took 796 members of the brutal ms13 getting off the streets. Ms13 is the gain that uses nice and machetes to hacked to death are teenagers. I had to need it we dont want that to happen to them or to anyone. Weve got to get to the bottom of this and stop terrorism entirely. You brought up immigration and lets make that a question number two. Humanitarian crisis is helping in mexico. Thousands of people flee poverty crime and chaos in the country, the home country hundreds. Walking in mexico trifold like to seek asylum in the United States. This caravan a microcosm of the immigration issue and problem in general. This question, ms. Farley, should the people seeking asylum should be allowed into the United States . It is a real problem but there are 14,000 people. People calling it a candidate i call it an invasion. We cant allow open borders. We dont know whos coming across our border. Think of the members of isis, members of ms13. We have to stop it but the real issue is with got to get copies of Immigration Reform. Weve got to stop this problem once and for all. The was an offer on the table and send the children would not vote for. That is the problem in washington. We need to create Solutions Rather than to keep battling over the issues here when we na comprehensive Immigration Reform plan and i will do it when im in d. C. Senator coats in question. I do not support open borders another to democrats. What we have in this country is immigration crisis. Yet people coming in this caravan to seek asylum in this country. Immigration has always been a strength for this country. We are a country founded by immigrants. Our diversity is a strength into crates entrepreneurism and innovation. We need to fix our broken immigration system but separating children from the parent of the border is immoral. Thats what this president has done. He is demonize immigrants throughout this country which is wrong, morally wrong. We need a system that works. That means making sure you have an asylum process, real immigration judge to process those claims. Not blocking films up in forprofit prisons who are just seeking asylum and protection. Thats with the statute of liberty stands for. Thats what this country has listed for. Should these people be allowed into the United States seeking a son . They should be allied to have asylum claims, reviewed by judges who are not beholden to the attorney general. They should be processed properly inhumane way as was done under president obama and they should have the claims be heard. A quick rebuttal. I dont believe we should be separating children either. We need more judges at the border to solve these problems but weve got a worried about the children who are here at home. The latest cbs cannot was something talking about an 11yearold children being recruited for ms13. We need comprehensive Immigration Reform. It was on the table. We need to solve the problem of the dreamers. They were broader through no fault of their own and we need to solve this. Thank you. Just to respond, everyone believes that ms13 gang members should be arrested. In fact, Law Enforcement is doing that work right now. If they are immigrants they should be arrested, punished and deported. There is no debate on that issue. Thank you both. Quick response . However, i. C. E. Is a group that is doing it and i. C. E. Is a group you want to abolish. I. C. E. Was formed in 2003 after 9 11 for the purpose of the antiterrorism, at the criminal crossborder transactions, and that Human Trafficking fight under this president who has diverted resources from that important antiterrorism work to enforcement removal operations separating children at the border, putting people in forprofit prison systems, not using asylum claims properly. What you are saying is an agency thats networking thats like 19 i. C. E. Ages disagree with you. They wrote to the home if you could department and said we need to dispense i. C. E. Because our reputation has been so destroyed and we cannot do the antiterrorism for we supposed to do because President Trumps keep giving all the money to the forprofit prison systems and removal operations. So fix the broken system, make sure reputational problems i. C. E. Is facing no longer harms it. If community dont participate in helping to get rid of terrorism, Law Enforcement cannot do the job and thats what my opponent misrepresents what this issue is very much about. You do when you said in central park that you want to abolish i. Re changing your story again . You keep flipflopping. We need to make sure would protect our citizens at home. We need to protect our borders, companies Immigration Reform but the recently i. C. E. Is standing at the 19 i. C. E. Ages as it is because the repetitions been destroyed because i. C. E. Agent are now arresting grandparents were visiting their soninlaw at fort trump. They are arresting, they are arresting people who were in their green card images. And so as a consequence the Important Mission of antiterrorism isnt being done. You need to get rid of that, reimagine it under Different Agency and a better oversight and accountability so they can do the antiterrorism mission and not continue the efforts of separating children and babies at the border. I want to wrap this up. Nothing is getting done. We need comprehensive Immigration Reform. There was a deal on the table to solve the problem with the dreams and you voted against it. We need to be making actions and drinking rather than constantly talking. We have a lot of other important issues to go through. The next one is healthcare. Polls show the issue of healthcare is the one that most concerned america specially this election. The Trump Administration congo try to cut obamacare but what of obamacare is more popular than ever and a lifeline for millions of americans. What in your opinion is a longterm fix to our Healthcare System . I believe that health care should be a human right and not a privilege. Unfortunately my opponent and this president want to continue undermined healthcare as a right, wanting to let insurers to charge as much as it you waf you have a preexisting condition. People need access to the likes of healthcare they need. I believe in medicago because if you had a notforprofit public option, a system where he could have access to health care that you need you would have an ability to have Preventive Care and people with preexisting conditions to get the coverage they want. My opponent stands with the president. She touts his endorsement, hosting nothing but undermined basic healthcare for americans and for new yorkers. Ms. Farley comes in question. Absolutely, our healthcare costs are spiraling out of control. I do think we should only repealed but if we can replace it with something that takes care of preexisting conditions and keeps children under 26 on the paris policies. I am actually not in favor of medicare for all. The senator wants to do this but most importantly how are you going to pay for it . It is estimated to cost 32 trillion over ten years. Thats 3. 2 3. 2 trillion a year, effectively doubling the entire federal budget. How are you going to pay for it . The way you pay for is the method money people spend it on healthcare is more than that number you cited. And a medical for all propulsid because youre taking the Insurance Companies out of the equation, Insurance Companies do not have the same goals as you and i picked they dont care about your health. They dont care about if you need a second day in hospital that medicine. We have to be willing to take on the insurers that pay their ceos millions of dollars and get them out of the equation. Money should go directly to healthcare and youll save money and medicare for all. You need to take on the drug companies. If youre unwilling to do that youll never get the cost of medicine down. My opponent as i wanted to do that and so is the present and thats what we need medicare for all. She keeps putting words in my mouth but the real issue is where have you seen the government ever be able to save money and have cost savings . Take a look at a country that socialist medicine, the uk. In the uk takes you to see a specialist. It takes a year to get surgery. Do you want that . What she is proposing means that no one will be allowed to have employer healthcare. If you like your healthcare will you be able to keep it . The edge answer is no but most importantly that 30 detroit on a cost over ten years means your taxes would have to double. Do you want your taxes to double . That you both. Another hot button issue especially in new york and northeast and california taxes. The uber wealthy and corporations got a big tax break from the trump republican tax reform bill. Many middle and upper middle income people in our area will get tax increases because most of their actions for state and local income and real estate taxes have been wiped out. They will feel the pinch, april 15. Will you if you elect to try to get back, those deductions back . If so, how. Was absolutely. Where were you, senator . When you lost the salt deduction. Senator damato was able to save the salt reduction in 1980s. I would have been negotiating to get a a better deal. There wasnt anybody there negotiating for these high tax states. When you summoned to focus on that. Its ridiculous will only have 10,000 cap and average property tax bill and westchester is 19,000 a year. I booker washington. I will go to washington and increase that cap. In addition i am proposing a deduction for renters. Why is it the rangers can deduct their went off other taxes the same way that people can deduct the interest on the mortgage . Its only fair and it will help reduce the amount of money that were sending to washington. We need middleclass tax cuts and a fortune this president put for the tax plan that my opponent supports this present every step of the what and would not hold him accountable. She is not held them accountable on anything. In fact, that tax break gave a tactic to the wealthiest new yorkers and americans and left the middleclass little. In new york because it took with us did the local deduction its harming new yorkers. Albert deduction 17,000 and it caps at ten get we need a president who cares of middleclass families and isnt going to give giveaways. That tax that was written behind closed doors by lobbyists and special Interest Groups to continue to line the pockets of the wealthy. I stood up to President Trump and thats why we need to make sure we have representatives in congress that share the new york values of supporting middleclass taxes, tax cuts for those who needed the most. Many at the republican colleagues voted no on the tax plan and could not lobby their colleagues in congress to get the deductions. The real issue is every vote mattered in the senate. Senator gillibrand in exchange for for a vote could have gotten that increase in the cap but you didnt did i would definitely do it. My taxi with epic this is a bad deal for so many new yorkers. We needed to negotiate. I negotiate for a living and thats what i will do. Senator shelby . I just like respond to our wretched id. The reason why i just want it because the Tax Deduction as opposed to a tax credit. And her plan if you are a millionaire in a penthouse apartment youll get a massive tax cut. You dont need that. Its the problem with the trump tax bill, a problem with the wretched plan. It should be tax credit so people are desperately needed who cant afford housing cannot ask is because access housing should also be human rights. Syndicate job it is spending a lot of time running around the country running for president. She doesnt know the terms of my proposal which are it is capped at 3000 a month or does it not for the millionaires. It is for the middleclass adjustment need a break. 3000 3000 a month, for 6000. Off the top of your federal taxes. Best money paid to uncle sam. What use as a Supreme Court ask you about the Campaign Running for president because senator gillibrand, yet not spent a lot of money in this Reelection Campaign for u. S. Ye, senator give millions for campaign coffers. Many including your opponent say youre saving the money to go for president ial run in 2020. Can you tell new yorkers who plan to vote for you on november elected to serve after six years centered . I will. I spend my time going to all counties the annoying when you can say weve done that. I also held 16 townhouse and have a 17th one of fright in buffalo. Im running a modern campaign and theyre run by the grassroots. I am making sure im taking my request for their vote directly to the voters. And to make sure voters can be heard. Thats why i hold the town halls and thats what i make myself available. You are saying you will not get out of the race, do not want for the present and you will surge or six years. I will serve my sick chicken. Honest i dont believe that considering the fact this is the third dishes been in europe in the time of when shes been a part of the states including New Hampshire in this month. About those townhouse i support the tunnels. Uams you have been paying for them out of your senate campaign. This means the taxpayer, not of the Campaign Come out of your senate. So the taxpayers are paying this. We absolutely need someone who will fight hard for new york. We dont need somebody who will be running for president right after the get reelected. I will only run for u. S. Senate. I think campaign for other candidates around the state and the country is important. We need a congress that actually supports the values of new york voters. That means making sure health care is a right and not a privilege, making sure im doing it wants to be working hard can and having the right job training. Thats why its important for me to support women for office. Washington is broken. It is corrupt. We need to get my out of politics. Thats what ive banned Corporate Tax mic a point where my opponent has dark money at their favorite. She has accepted 5 million of corporate money. If she feels a strong about corporate money, she should return that money. She hasnt said in a coffers ready to run for president. Response to that . I banned Corporate Tax money from a campaign because of what to send a message to voters its a post that matters. We need to get money out of politics, public funded elections. The most important thing we can just get money out and have the transparency and accountability that is so desperately needed. Moving on to the next issue you mentioned women running for office, Record Number one at issues that has divided men and women and Many Americans was what happened this summer with the Supreme Court nomination of Brett Kavanaugh. Ms. Farley, if youd been a yes, senator how would you vote on the Brett Kavanaugh Supreme Court nomination and why . I wouldve voted for him but most important i also would have met with him. Senator jones brent did meet with them and hope that she even admitted she never written any of his opinions. That is your job is to actually meet with the candidate for Supreme Court because one of the most important jobs. One of the biggest issues we have is senator, all of a sudden there seems to be in favor of guilty, until proven innocent. Shes abandoned due process. I have teenage sons. I worry about them living in this life. We cannot do that. But most of all she calls herself the need to send it. Should return the 800,000 in fines that she received from a law firm for harvey weinstein. Senator . Judge kavanaughs record was quicker i read his opinions. Fourthly microphone as is a relationship to the facts of President Trump does, who she supports. I rated decisions and i know exactly what his positions were and he was very harmful to new york. He does not believe in womens reproductive freedom or a a freespeech rights are as important as corporate rights. And add to that, beyond his record how he performed at the last hearing, not only did the trait colleagues with utter disrespect by speaking over senators, by alleging partisan conspiracy theories, his demeanor in character was absolutely inappropriate. I stand by my vote. I cant imagine why she wants to represent new yorkers if she would vote yes. Its important that judge kavanaugh had the opportunity to have said and that dr. Ford had her say, and that the fbi did an investigation but are not able to corroborate any of those claims. I probably wouldve voted for justice justice, but it is important that we make sure someone is innocent until proven guilty. We have to have due process. Another hot button issue that is assigned to the time, United Nations this month issued a report on Climate Change, a report that is bleak if they say we dont start transforming the World Economy right now. They predict food shortages, wildfires, the killing of the coral reefs all happening over the next two decades. What would you do if we elected to do with Climate Change . We have to take global time change seriously. Not only have we seen it in the reallife impacts to new yorkers with Severe Weather, flooding, superslim sanding, Tropical Storm lee. All of these storms have devastated families, homes, kl people and destroyed communities. We need to be very proactive ideas like putting a price on carbon. We should have a carbon exchange. We should promote innovation and green energy. Entrepreneurial innovation is such a big opportunity that we invest in Renewable Energy sources. We should be investing in wind and solar and geothermal and biofuels, not be beholden to middle eastern oil. Ms. Farley, what would you do to do with Climate Change . We pulled out of the paris accords. However, a fault of the countries that were signatories to the paris accords with the only one who reduced our Carbon Emissions by half a percentage point. Clearly we seem to be doing something right. We know that there is global Climate Change but it is not american Climate Change. The u. S. Will continue to do what the major polluters are china and india. Weve got to hold them responsible and will do everything we can. We know the climate is changing but weve got to balance it out with economic interest and keep americas interest at heart. Thats why new york is a senator who will stand up to President Trump. Not only to get back with a accords but it failed to show any world leadership on this important issue. He does not want to be beholden to middle eastern oil. He will not stand up to saudi arabia. He does not have interest in addressing Severe Weather and global Climate Change and he showed an absence of leadership on issues we desperately need. Response i will as the next question. Next question. We sort of talk but that the alternator from ardent backers of President Trump to some opponents of the present. If elected how would you try to work across the aisle to bring some civility back to the senate and to conquer . We need to bring civility back to the states. People ask if i can reach across the aisle. I reach across the table every day. My husband is a big democrat from a very famous new York Democratic family, james farley is his great uncle but i think we need to do this. I asked about the the present l the time and i voted for him. I support the president when his policies are good for new york. So many of them are. Our economy is booming, 4 growth rate, unemployment at alltime low. When his posts are not good like the tax bill i will negotiate and make them better. The goal is to focus on new york, not running for president. You have battled the president for two years punishes the democrats of lost in the republicancontrolled senate. Other issues youre willing to compromise with the president and members of the Republican Party . Candidate trump went on a few things i i thought were pretty exciting like having a National Page leafed plant. President trump doesnt follow through on his campaign promises. He ran on issues Like Health Care should be universally more affordable but he will not support the Affordable Care act and tries undermined every step of the way. I do work on a by person basis every day. I have more than two dozen bipartisan bills many of which have been passed in this congress and signed by President Trump. Including major win made in America Manufacturing Investment Committee shall we have better s. T. E. M. Education for students and teachers, making sure we can help our First Responders, placement and firefighters who are falling in line of duty and make sure the benefits of return to their spouses. We are running out of time. Connive a Quick Response . Very brief, the senator talks with all these bills that gotten past. She is only got one bill passed to rename post office. A lot of these bills is how fantastic but if they dont get asked they dont help. All the bills i mentioned that impasse in addition to passing the 9 11 health or passed twice including dont ask, dont tell. Just ask kris calls with the s. T. O. C. K. Act which meant Insider Trading was passed into law. Ask any First Responder who was responsible for passing 9 11 health bill. Your name wasnt on the bill. The ideas we need to get more done. I let the deal. And that the advocacy and they got the deal done. Having your name on something is not the relevant thing. What do you fought for, got it done and what made the bill along. All those other tosa mentioned are part of larger bills. Thats how work gets done. You dont get in on just because you worked on it. It might be in a much larger bills when you can get something done like a defense bill, like a spending the. Senator schumer has 31 bills passed and i know you took credit for bringing the defense spending can you which i support the 199 million. Deal from his knee voted against the actual bills for the reason why i flew against the defense bill is because theres a provision that allows lowyield Nuclear Weapons to be not only produced but use strategically without any congressional oversight. I felt that day she was so important that it demanded a noble. Why take credit for . Because the substance of legislation in the bill was written by me to respond to new yorkers need. Closing arguments now. Thank you for a lively debate. 90 seconds. By coin toss, senator, you wil go first. Thank you for allowing us to purchase but in this debate. As a Public Servant ive worked really hard to make sure that members of covertly by the root same rules as a but ultimate oversight and accountability. Its what i post my camera, my schedule, by Financial Disclosure and my taxes online. Its what i banned Corporate Tax donations into my campaign. Washington has been broken and so ive done my best to Reach Across Party Lines to get things done for new york. Thats what we passed the 9 11 health bill twice. We passed repeal of dont ask, dont tell, past the s. T. O. C. K. Act of passing legislation to help the economy grow, things like meat in a provision so we can invest in manufacturing in new york, better education for stem some more communities and women can get opportunities for this fastgrowing jobs making sure we can morph employee ownership. Theres a lot of work still left to be done and thats what i would like to serve more innocent for another six you so i can do things like passed the National Paid leave plan. With the only industrialized country and world that doesnte paid leave. We need to better workforce tree. The matter what i tell people to make sure that health care is the thats why we need to get the health get as of right and not a privilege. We need to get the money out of politics but we need publicly funded elections, return our democracy to the people to make sure people, one person, one vote. Get rid of the special interests. The reason why we never passed again before those because the nra has a stronghold on congress because the money they give. We have to get my out of the drug industry because they spent so much money on memos of congress and thats why we cant get medicare for all or lower drug prices or take on the opioid crisis. I i still want to serve this day because theres so much work left to be done for hardworking new yorkers. Ms. Farley, 90second. I asked senator gillibrand three question. How are you going to pay for your 32 trillion cost of medicare for all . Why wont you return the 80,000 in tainted money from Harvey Weinsteins lawyers . And are you running for president . I am living in new york, racing my sent in new york. Unlike center to julie brand whos been living in d. C. For the last 12 years. During that time when Million People have left new york. Our upstate economy is in shambles. Our infrastructure is falling apart and, of course, our taxes are going up. I want to use my negotiating skills to bring back the 48 billion that new york loses every single year. And use to create jobs, improve our infrastructure, lower our taxes and give renters a Tax Deduction for the rent up to 3000 a month. Im in favor of term limits. I believe we should all only have two terms. 12 years. Senator gillibrand has had her 12 years. New york deserves a senator who will be focused on them, who will work hard for new york. I am transfixed her i want to be the senator to put new yorks first and i am asking for your vote. Chele farley, senator gillibrand, i thank you both for a lively and straightforward debate. Appreciate it. Good luck to both of you on november 6. And thank you for watching tonight. This is such an important part of our democracy. Talking about voting. We hope this debate has helped you become a more informed voter. That is a very important part of democracy. Most crucial of course is to go out and vote on november six. That is the backbone of our country. It is our right but it is also our duty and help you exercise that right and duty on november 6. For the candidates i know speak for them as well. Thank you again for watching from all of us here, dont forget to vote on november 6. Have said that yet . And enjoy the rest of your day. With now seven days until the midterm elections we have more light debate coverage come up for you this evening. Joining us is allan miller, founder and ceo of the News Literacy projectct here to talk about the topic of Fact Checking and then it turns of the 2018. Good morning. Talk to her views about the project or what is a compounded to get it started . Guest with a national nonpartisan educational nonprofit that works with educators andt journalists to middle school, teach middle school and higho School Students what to believeig in the digital age and given the tools to be informed and engaged participant in

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