>> welcome to las vegas this is "the communicators". we are on location for the next couple of weeks. we are at the consumer electronics show the largest tradeshow in north america. we will show you some of the interviews that we did and some of the latest technology. this is "the communicators" on c-span. >> what are some of the product products? >> and 2018 there is a lot of focus on artificial intelligence in many ways. so now google is huge here. . . . . two thirds of the population compared to january 30, 1960. of course we continued that movement towards self driving cars. we know we are getting there. there are more companies involved. we are ahead and smartphones are getting better. we have longer battery life, they are doing different things. some are even losing keyboards and things like that. a lot assistant technology occurring. an robotics of course. that is where we continue to grow every year. robotics and as we get older, we want people to take care of us in the developing world. many technological solutions. one of the ways that we would be able to take care of our parents and ourselves frankly. >> we spent a lot of time in the robotics area. it has grown enormously. >> of course it will grow. since i was a kid reading science fiction but this has been the future. robotics are growing not only what they can do but getting personality. becoming more humanlike, if you will. right now, where single function, and of awkward like a navigational device. but with artificial intelligence, learning is better and better and they will know what we like. >> one of the other themes that we found here is 5g. >> yes certainly the world is going to be 5g. the us has to be part of that. 5g will give you 100 times the speed to download a movie and watch something. also close to zero latency which is the gap to sending and receiving. think about how important 5g will be part of the self driving. life matters. we need redundancy and 5g as part of this. it is also bringing the broadband to rural areas. because it will not be the most expensive to put into place. it will get a lot of information quickly to people and allow all americans to become part of the developed world. chrysler's policy and regulation that goes to those? >> the 5g specifically, we have to invest in infrastructure. we have to encourage and quickly do this process. with self driving parked cars, under the obama and the trump administration, it has been a forward momentum. the same vision of a world with the disabled and elderly people empowered and the rate of human error which is now about 94 percent of accuracy. it will go down dramatically. it will save hundreds of thousands of lives and injuries each year. >> sometimes you come out it looks like a car show. >> certainly this year we've gone about 27 percent. about 300,000 square feet for cars. vehicle technology. this year as models, we are pushing the possibilities and the future. a lot of infrastructure coming from johnson controls, and we will see what we can do in the future. where we can go. the entire ecosystem is here and of course the car companies themselves are seeing, they have their own visibility, their own concept cars. technology today is not in a world where you can be a single company and do great things. you have to partner with other companies. everyone is aggressively partnering. that's we get these leaders from around the world because in four days they can see everyone they need to see and that would take them several months otherwise to go around the world and meet with them. >> gary shapiro, is the first mac news is the fcc net neutrality rollback. before we go further want to make sure to get your view on what they did. >> while tom is a very complex issue. i personally think it was the right thing to do because the sec a couple of years ctaunder the obama administers and gave them enormous power they should not have finished have the power to regulate every device that hooks up to the internet including automobiles. automobile companies and technology companies make stuff here we are concerned about this because we have seen dependent with a political party is controlling the sec, they can totally block innovation. i was part of the voluntary principles he worked so well for 18 years and we went around the sec and the broadband care is provided, they agreed to provide in the companies -- everyone was happy. it worked great. the truth is, the different sides are not far apart. republicans and democrats and broadband providers and internet broadband using companies, they agree on net neutrality. it is communication that's wrong. and i think there is also agreement that america that what we need is competition. it has 100 different companies providing telecommunications. prices are a lot lower than us and speed is better than ours. why is it? competition. we don't have that competition. we have verizon but we need as much competition as possible. consumers, if there's any harm if they could change a company is not a problem. or even without that competition, what could happen today is that the fcc could step in and congress to step in immediately. we can do it with or without the decision. it is not going to go away. the problem i have had with this is both sides have exaggerated so badly what will happen and concerned consumers that we are in a position now where there is people that have such malicious intent. the present chair of the fcc, his getting threats and kids are being bothered. he is doing what he thinks is right with substance behind him and a lot of good people disagreeing about sides. we have extremes on this issue and a reflection of a very bad direction that i believe the country should not be going in. >> what does it take to put on a show like this? >> we plan so far ahead and we tried to focus on trade that we see in the future and we aggressively reach out to have our own partners so we can see with the technologies going. we also block out space in las vegas for the next 20 years. we market around the world. we have a full-time team of people aggressively around the world. we have media from around the world, 60,000 people come from outside of the united states. it's important for us in the us and the las vegas economy. it is important to invest in a global basis with global marketing to be here and make this a great efficient experience so the average people at times he has over 32 meetings and is very efficient in what they do. >> ces takes over the city and this is a city used to having a lot of people. >> las vegas has more -- wheeze everything we possibly can. we are thrilled that we just broke ground this week on a brand-new convention center that is supposed to launch in 2020. we would very much look forward to that. with uninterrupted power and it will be state-of-the-art facilities. it will have entertainment, a workforce around las vegas is the only major city where you only 15 minutes away from everywhere. this is the best convention city in the world, bar none. >> how many square feet does it take up? >> we count by the amount of space exhibited by. it is close to 5 million square feet. the truth is, you can have a team of five people and those five people even if they split up will not see the entire show. >> the car show alone i think about half the size of vatican city. >> gary shapiro, something else you do out here -- >> i ran a couple of books. i think that opportunity speaks to other people as well. and we identify a number of authors based on dozens that apply and having relative things to say. i just finished an interview with john grisham, the best-selling author. he wrote about a new technology -- ultrasound technology. -- anyway, it actually has 100 different things for brain tumors, prostate cancer. outpatient based. no chemo, no surgery and it is not intrusive. when you can drive in yourself and drive out three hours later. >> gary shapiro, president and ceo of the consumer technology association. which owns and sponsors ces. thank you.♪ ♪ [music] ♪ >>.♪ ♪ [music] >> now we want to introduce you to frank from intel corporation. what is your title at intel? >> my name is frank and i'm the general manager for virtual reality. and we work with other parts of the organization for the data center, -- >> how big a component is vr? >> i see this as a once in 20 years that will impact probably everything. think about how interactive it will be. you need an amazing amount of detail and be able to build on that. we are heading on graphics. it is an amazing opportunity. and it is a once in a 20 year evolution. way back when we didn't even have a user interface, and has transformed everything. -- >> think of it this way. part of this is an evolution of what we have today. we use design. this is trying to make 3d models. it takes us to the next level and say that we are designing and now i can see that i am in virtuality experience i can collaborate with you and then is not the way people are to operate. if you build something and you're building an engine or something else you're collaborating with someone else. we are bringing that to the next level. that's just one example. and then i like to think of vr as an element of -- [inaudible] you can see the nfl player from any angle to what you want to see it. not from a single camera angle. we are seeing that. and you can participate in the game for many point that you want. they can see the game from any angle. >> virtuality is giving us the ability to work in a way that -- >> what component of vr -- >> we are on the physics side of things. there are several pieces and there are other elements. you have to demonstrate the ability -- was that we just had an electrical blowout here. with all of the electricity going on. i am not surprised! [inaudible] graphics play a very important role. we have been working closely with microsoft so that our graphics have a proposition instead of entry level. in the next integration graphics keep getting better and better. in a year or two time, we can be done within a -- integrative graphics. we will not lose detail. we are working where you can see art at the smithsonian institute. you can go from art exhibits quickly. but i want to see the detail. this helps you do that. >> and the pc based technology. there is a single wire technology. i don't want three wires i just want one high-speed wire. i cannot think of -- >> is the cloud transformational when it comes to vr and how important is this? >> you cannot ignore the efficiency. the large data system, everything needs to be enabled. it is a dissertation about you do not need it but you do. there is a situation -- [inaudible] really what you need so many graphics? because the workloads keep getting heavier and heavier. we need to balance the elements. my hypothesis on the vr, it has to be very little latency. people get motion sick and you need the quality of service behind it. so what is happening in the cloud, getting to the pc telephone, imagination at the services there. then on top of all that you want a layer of security. because some of these are collaborative experiences. like in automotive design or i want an entertainment concept. so we have to be on that. this will be important in 5g. -- >> we've all had glasses on and we have seen vr happening. but intel has a big -- >> yes. >> what is in there? that is a vr tent. >> in a way, it is autonomous driving. we are thinking now what does vr bring to things like autonomous driving? think of your car is another environment that you will travel in and out of. let me hypothesize for you on augmented and virtual reality. i think the ar npr words, we will get to the point where we are wearing something like my glasses back have augmented reality. and then we can completely be -- i can do from outside of my building. autonomously i can afford to be in other experiences. as well as my home or office. these are the things that we are thinking about and working on. >> was a difference between virtual and augmented reality? next to give augmented as i am seeing you and then seeing things that are fake. still seeing the real world around me. the benefit that would be my ability to walk around because i am not included. on vr, i go into something. i'm not seeing the real world. but even there are exceptions there. there things that let me detect the real world around me to bring objects in. ar is see-through, vr is i am immersed in it. >> how did you get into this? >> i got into this a long time ago. this particular business, virtual reality, i think it is a natural extension. i like to focus on things that are on the cusp of happening. i am always interested in what is evolving and what has a ton of potential. i like seeing technology but i also like seeing the benefit that it brings. i always look for opportunities like that. the way i got here is the journey through communication, workstation, data center. gaming kinda brought me here. i was concentrating on gaming and then vr. i love things with tons of potential. they do more than just entertain. the smithsonian is one. theater, being able to do surgery with better outcomes with people do not need chemotherapy because what you can do. it gets me excited. that journey. >> a computer science background? >> i have an electronic degree and digital design. and i ended up starting at intel doing telecom design. it wasn't even my thing but remember, i look for areas where it pushes my limits. even 36 years ago in communications. because of the opportunities i loved the most. >> when you hire folks to look at gamers? >> you know, we absolutely do. we're looking for people with diversity from gaming, some sports, some in the media side, some on the tech side. we look for people with business development. people have a strong development angle. the same way i described virtuality. it is not about one specific element. to get into this business you have to be able to understand gaming, business opportunity. marketing, business sense. and an architect -- takes a lot of really good expertise to bring this to fruition. >> frank soqui, thank you for your time. >> thank you, i appreciate it. [inaudible] [inaudible] ♪ ♪ [music] >> now on "the communicators" want to introduce you to -- >> i am the research division at the department of commerce and boulder colorado. >> that is the national institute of standards and technology. why are you here at the ces show? >> a division i'm in charge of and boulder is focused on looking at the next generation of first responder communications. and we are really looking at what is public safety, want to be in the future? police, ems officials to take the next leap and take advantage of broadband communications and what's coming next for commercial users. what we are doing here is, we have a number of opportunities to outreach for industry and academia. through grant programs and challenges to involve them in solving public safety challenges. and communications. we are here at ces because there are a number of companies with interesting concepts and technology that have no idea how they might apply to public safety needs. we want to get them interested in helping solve the challenges and problems of our first responders. >> we just showed a little display you have here. why do you have his equipment here? this equipment really show some of the challenges. people don't understand the challenges for communications for public safety. when at the put these on their very difficult to work in. a day-to-day fire ensemble, think about wearing all of that equipment and trying to interact with a smart phone or a map. you cannot give a firefighter a smart phone and say you love this new mapping technology, you will love it. they can see it or touch it because they have gloves. so we think what can the next responder have?will they have displays, voice communication without having to touch anything? is there feedback within their suit? there are a lot of companies around ces addressing these in different ways for commercial purposes. we want to bring those ideas and the experts in to address this with public safety. >> what kind of interactions we have this year? >> i've been doing this for 15 years. this is a second year to have a booth at ces. my third year to be at ces. but i have been doing the job for 15 years. this is the best interaction with companies we would otherwise never have interaction with that i have ever had in my 15 years in the job. it has been phenomenal! almost nonstop. yes they almost lost my voice because we had so many people to talk to. it has just been fantastic! >> what is one idea that has come out of this? >> i was a one of the most important things i walked away from three years ago, it was really that year where virtual reality really jumped off the shelves of future tech and became a commercial product that people would buy. i walked away from ces and i literally thought how can we use virtual reality to create new test environments for public safety in which we can really envision the future, devices and have displays without them having to exist. on the other side of the booth we actually have a prototype of a virtual reality system. >> walk is over. >> a virtual reality system release create realistic public safety scenarios, have tasks to be performed and given publix into the ability to dodge those environments, perform those tasks and be able to overlay all kinds of ideas for user interfaces. max, biometrics. and understand what of those things actually allows them to do this better? and we can measure that. industry can use as platforms to decide what to make and decide what things will work better and get money to do those things. >> let's see it. >> can somebody do this? they will put on the gear. you will see we built this burning mountain lodge. so it is -- >> this is scott underwood. one of the engineers. >> he is our engineer and older. he is one of the team that have led to this concept. >> was he putting on? standard vr? >> yes. we really want to make is accessible to researchers and industry across the country. we do not want to create a platform that no one else can buy. we're using off-the-shelf equipment.in this case, whatever we can do can be easily accessed by industry and academia. >> what will he do? >> really getting people the ability to walk in and see what it would be like to conceive of having a burning building. he will walk into the room where there is smoke and he will put out a fire with a fire hose. what we are trying to do show people the concept.what we have done is we just announced several months ago a grant program in which we are giving up to $5 million to create a prototype of the system that we can understand how it would apply and also the heaven -- we have a active christ challenge open right now in which we are asking people to use a platform like this that will provide them an overlay on top of some futuristic looking headset display for navigating inside of a building. the winners will win money. this literally, this idea came from being at ces 10 years ago. >> thank you very much for your time.>> thank you! i appreciate it. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] >> one of the companies displaying here, we are at the ces show in las vegas. this is kodak. an iconic american company. the ceo, jeff clark. mr. clark, which is kodak today? >> is a vibrant company with 6000 employees and 1,000,000,000 and a half in revenue. we are still mostly known for film. it is only about 10 percent of our revenue but we saw star wars and any other major movies in a james bond or wonder woman, that is all still shot on kodak film. we also did commercial printing. we are at the consumer electronics show because we are also into consumers. >> what are you displaying? >> is a 360 camera. also for the first time in many years, kodak has gone back to instant cameras.today we have the kodak sure shot and other cameras that are available that you can print, take a picture and printed just we call this print o matic. this is used in real estate. if you print a 360 view. many people are using this when they go out on an action ride. just when you want a much broader view of a particular area. >> tell us about the 360 degree camera. >> we are trying to create a new image which is a 360 image. we have generations of 360 video. this at the show, we're showing -- not only can we create a 360 image, you can actually close it. we have two different lenses. one on each side. so they are all sides in all angles. then internally, the software and hardware will switch those two images together, it creates what we call a rectangular file format. and it is compatible with things like facebook and youtube. any image that you record here but photography and video, you can then upload and share with your friends. it has an interactive limit so you can pan left or right so you are given a virtual reality -- >> you can open a supper close this? harvey want to say. your two cameras. practice this is interesting because both lenses are hundred 90 degrees when you create a image you can create a 3d image. we sat with virtual reality, augmented reality. the future is starting to look at creating that real depth and perception image. we can claim that only 360 video but we can also create a 3d video. >> this is just a camera could not video. >> no, it is both. it is primarily a video, but it also takes pictures as well. >> what is this one? >> this is more for "after words" look at this we have three lenses. it can get a little higher quality image, higher resolution. in this case where we have a 4k image. this would be an 8k image. we look at consumer applications for 360, if you have been on restaurants or sometimes now the real estate has become popular to tory home. you can do it in 3d. when use product like this to create the higher frame and higher pixel density. >> and is this what mapping services use when they go out and not? >> is, have you ever seen the google car that drives around with the big bowl on top? it is kind of morbid miniature version of that. when you actually recording all video from all sides, at a high resolution and you can then share it. then create a interactive. >> that camera as well is video and still, correct? and does it have on you? >> yes. they both have audio. we are still working on some of the features that you can potentially plug-in and external audio and on the 360 side, there still working with special audio. if you have a four channel audio. as you pan left and right you actually, the audio will turn with you. >> forgive me if i am simplistic about this. but how advanced is this technology? it is just a camera? >> actually, if you look at the lens we are bending the light from all different directions. the difference with a normal camera, we have a sensor on either side. now you have two sensors that you have to merge the images together. the complexity and the technology in the cameras is in the stitching software. it is like if you think of a panoramic picture, use that to take images from all different angles. then you would line them up and put them together. now we are doing it with video. very high speed, frame rates. in order to do that it takes a lot of power in memory. >> is this a competitive market, 360 cameras? >> yes. there are a lot of companies trying to get out there. we already have three generations of 360 product on the market now. this is kind of introducing this for the future. we have been investing a lot in the software and hardware for the future of 360. >> d work for kodak? what is your relationship? >> we are a subsidiary tech company. we are jk imaging. we actually license for all of the digital cameras and video cameras for kodak.we are a technology company developing new technology for future video and we support all of the legacy, kodak digital cameras. >> and these on the market, how much they sell for? >> these are still not available. they are concept products that have been in development. we had two other products that are on the market. >> which ones? >> these will probably be consumer models. maybe a five or $600 range. maybe still several months out. this will be more of the pro model. we also have the orbit which is a consumer model. this one has internal stitching so that we have the same concept we have two different lenses and institutes internal produces $500 and is available today. we just started shipping two or three months ago. it also has another feature where this lens, we can change modes. so you can do 360 degrees recording. but if you just want to a 4k video, you can use the front lens with 155 degrees lens which will give you a wide angle flat video. it is like an action camera. video camera. and then this one here is the dual pro. this is kind of our professional prosumer model we've been shipping for the last year. you can see we have two cameras here. this one requires a little bit more work because you have to download the files and we do external stitching. so the professionals like that product because they are in control. it is not just the standard studying as far as light and stitching and overlap. these high-end professional software to stitch the videos together. that is pretty much, we see a lot of opportunity in 360 still. i think people that the market would take off because virtual reality and augmented reality. it is actually the technology is catching up. >> you been with kodak for a couple of years. kodak used to be in every american home. it is there a lament that it is not anymore? >> i think kodak in 1888, george eastman created a company based on bringing photography to the masses. and we all grew up with that. kodak still has that love and trust.we are bringing it back with products but also for the first time in 30 years, -- we believe it will bring people back to what we are calling the renaissance. there is so much digital going on. we are so much on our phones and there's a differentiation on some but we think film and analog is what people are going to migrate towards. >> another one of the communications devices you are advertising on here is a new antenna. what is that? >> it's an integral part. [inaudible] we have a display here where we can fix this. there applications for the home but it has an application for the car. so from the car perspective today you have the radio or cell coverage. we will be able to have multiple antennas in a car that can give you better cell coverage for electronics and eventually, a critical part of the driverless car. >> your background is technology. >> i am an economics undergrad. but i have worked with technology my whole career. hewlett-packard, compaq and by many of the others. >> what is your vision for kodak in the next five or 10 years? >> kodak will be what he pretty much has been for the last century. we make products that are easy to use. we push -- you push the button and we do the rest. we always strive for easier products. >> one of donald trump schools is to bring manufacturing back to the us. is that feasible? >> it is for kodak. we are in rochester new york. we still manufacture film. we manufacture ink. remanufactured toner. even printers that are used. we fundamentally believe in manufacturing as a critical part of the kodak. >> what are you hearing from attendees? >> they are excited by everything happening. all of the innovations. example we have a drone. and of course it has an amazing kodak camera. but we have people that came here looking for gadgets that -- when you come to ces you never know what you will find. sometimes you're looking for a drone and you find something else. >> the ceo of kodak, thank you. >> thank you. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible conversations] ♪ ♪ [music] [inaudible] >> governor rick snyder, what are you doing here at ces? >> is a great place to be if you're from michigan. there is a convergence going on. in our economy and in the world economy and society. and heavy industry and they are converging into mobility and distribute autonomously connected vehicles, all of these wonderful things going on. michigan is the world center of that. what this show is, a showplace for the entire supply chain for both of those worlds coming together. they meet and have dialogue. we are here for an opportunity to talk about michigan's role and to make new connections and relationships. >> there are times when you walk around the convention center in las vegas and it looks like a car show. >> well again, it is relatively recent. the last nine years or so the rate of increase has really been compelling and exciting. what i would say is this is going to transform our society in so many ways. the autonomous, smart vehicle. smart infrastructure! it also will provide challenges. we need to be smart. i view michigan's role in many ways as let all of these companies can meet and have great relationships. we will create the best environment for that to happen in a smart responsible way that we understand the positives and negatives of society. >> was a connected mobile world -- >> it already caused a lot of great job creation. but let's talk about the long-term benefits. people like to talk about technology. it is three major areas. first of all is about safety. over 90 something percent of accidents are due to human error. autonomous connected vehicles can save lives and many accidents. the second thing is opportunity. if you think about how many people have disabilities and other challenges in their life. it could be an economic disadvantage where they don't have access to transportation other than buses or something. this will help open the world to a lot of people to get job training and work and create new economic opportunity which is fabulous. the third is efficiency. particularly with infrastructure. it is not just about the vehicles, it is about making smart highways. highways that can communicate with the vehicles. we need to invest more in infrastructure in this country. we can do it where it is not just about adding more concrete and planes, using smarter and better is a huge savings for all of us. it is really the three major benefit areas. >> we talk about smarter roads and infrastructure, the communicators revisited ann arbor. but the autonomous vehicles, while they go beyond that technology? >> no, you will need both. the once connected to the infrastructure will help the autonomous vehicle get through a transitional stage. one challenge we have right now is there will not be that many vehicles that are autonomously connected. there will talk to each other. there is that interface with a will talk about infrastructure in back-and-forth. one pilot we are doing rental michigan, we are the world leader. we are doing this with construction zones. we pick a construction zone area where they are infrared, various barcodes inside the vehicle can read that tells them it is a construction zone. we have a human piece but now actually have so the camera can register and the vehicle can understand the construction zone environment. it can look at lane markings and do many things. and they say you will never believe that this would be possible. these are the kind of infrastructure dialogues that i think can be important. >> is go back to technology in michigan. but always what people think of when they think of technology. >> what part of history are you looking at? because i like your my people if you go back to the early 1900s, we were not just the auto center of the world but the innovation center of the world. it was everything. all of these industries. we were the center of the world. what happened is that we created the modern corporation where we were so successful we started that entrepreneurial spirit. over the last few years we have gotten it back. where the comeback state. and now not only are we back to the top 10 state, we look at how to embrace the mobility, new concepts and leave the world and out to adopt them in a responsible way. >> is the michigan workforce, the educational work being done, are they prepared for this? >> we have made huge progress. it is a work in progress though. it is not done yet because there are one or two. we are leaving the country and not. it is about competency-based learning. it is about learning about information technology skills. if you talk to employers on the country they will say the lack of professional and still trade people. robotics people, industrial automation people. we are leaving on creating programs. we started to educate parents and young people and people looking for the next career because in our society the schedule he told everyone they should go get a four year degree. and that wasn't a smart thing. we sort of broke the system. we are establishing a smarter better way in the past i believe in michigan. and that will be a role model for the country. >> governor gabby technology background. >> yes, i am very proud of it! >> what is the background? >> helped run gateway computers in the 90s. in addition nanotechnology for a decade before was governor. all of the opportunities here. but the point at which it with you is not just the technology, it's part of the benefit of people. in one word of caution i would give people is that there are challenges and downsides to the transition that we also need to be responsible about. an illustration, if you bring in autonomous vehicles, wonderful new technologies, what can happen with industries such as truck driving or delivery drivers? we need to be proactive about how do we do retraining 200 and work towards a future and not make a crisis with people in their careers. we say here are some challenges and opportunities and less dues in a smart way. >> michigan, detroit, have made a bid for amazon. why should they choose detroit? >> i believe that we should win. this is the comeback city. it is the safest place for young people around the world. and people, young people from around the world are coming there now. i say 90 percent of housing midtown and downtown, companies like amazon, google have set up operations in detroit. these are exciting things going on and so it is that magnet for the cool and exciting places coming back and so i think it's a wonderful place to put a headquarters to say, do you want to be in the forefront of the next wave of the future and build on that? the other thing we have a unique attribute. the partnership with detroit and windsor. doug is a great opportunity for we can leverage in getting the best people and building the best place. >> the busiest train crossing in the world. >> the busiest trade crossing in the country. we are building a new bridge will make it easier and better to get across. >> have you found that companies are reaching out to your office for relocating or setting up offices in michigan? >> yes because it is about partnership. there will not be one company dominating the whole field. i think hopefully get a good sense of that is you talk to people. many of these are collaborations, traditional vehicle companies with technology companies and other companies coming together. it is about the whole ecosystem. and if you look at, we are leading the world in terms of activity. more activity in michigan than anywhere else. the valley has a lot of great things. my view is i do not want this to be michigan versus the valley. i say why don't we win together and why do we help the country in society across the world to do better by promoting this in a responsible partnership. >> in your time at cs were you hoping to see? >> i'm hoping to see a lot of cool things in terms of the new technology and ideas. but a chance to tell the story to. i am on multiple panels talking about what does mobility mean? is it talked about the benefits earlier, but also responsibilities. and as a government, what is the role to make it happen? so i want to listen to people and learn from them about what they see as the barriers, constraints and challenges. and can we create a better environment in michigan to be that role model for better adoption of these great changes. >> rick snyder, thank you. >> thank you. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] >> that wraps up this week's "the communicators" from the consumer electronics show in las vegas. we will be back with more next week. >> the president of the united states. 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