shows his caucus influence, for example. the ancient persian dynasties for the medieval persian dynasties in the various [inaudible] he knew quite a lot about them and spend time with them. he read the classics as we would call them his favorite writer and in terms of the old writers because he portrayed billings as real people and stalin like that a lot not just the heroes but also the villains were believable. he read the literature in translation quite a bit so we think he read about 200 pages a day, most of that was military and intelligence of civilian files and there was a worldview suspicious worldview about enemies internal and external, reflected in these files and they had instructions or his reactions to the files made them more like what he was looking for and became a kind of echo chamber in a way where he spent a lot of time with interrogation protocol, he read these people were tortured to confess and stalin read through hundreds of pages of this so this was a very contradictory person, very clever but at the same time blinkered because he's got these printed categories of imperialism or bruges was he, right track abroad think are in the way the world works at the same time murdering people who are loyal to him and not forgetting any slight and all of this is stalin is and i hope i captured him in a book. thank you. [applause] >> steven, thank you so much. this was a great talk and i hope you will meet him in our ny history bookstore on the 77th street side of the building. he's happy to sign his book and chat with you a little, right? right. we hope to see you back again. thank you. thank you all for coming. [applause] >> here is a look at the upcoming book fairs and stills happening around the country. january 24 through 26 will be in california for the rancho mirage writers festival which will feature former senior advisor to president george w. bush, former senator, historian margaret mcmillan and others. then we had to georgia where the savanna book possible every 17 which will be live on the tv on c-span2. march 1011 we will be live in the university of arizona for the tucson festival of books. later in march it is the virginia festival of the book in charlottesville. more information about upcoming book fairs and symbols and watch previous possible coverage click the first tab on the website book tv .-dot org. >> we will get started. to introduce our guest it is my pleasure to bring up someone close to me as close to all of us in this for the community. it is probably one of the most literate people i know i know that because i know what books he buys. [laughter] and he also is one of the most perceptive people that i have ever read about what goes on here in south florida. he started as a print journalist and many of you remember him from the miami herald. he then went on to become a reporter and now you know him for his remarkable sunday morning program called this week in south florida which is on at 11:30 on sundays. his name is michael, please give him a big big welcome. [applause] >> hello, everybody, good evening. thanks to mitchell and to the doctor and so many others who made the book for one of our great community events. i've been coming here for what? thirty years and it is my published night to briefly introduce two outstanding smart, tough, politically sophisticated and assertive women who are going to -- yes,. [applause] who have so much to say about our current political scene and what is to come. we begin by saying i have known anna for many years. she is as assertive as they come and smarter, with smart, faster than a speeding bullet with a retort, come back, put down and certainly saw that when that access hollywood tape came out. and i like to quote it verbatim and i don't know the people at cnn or abc loved it but i loved it. she was born in nicaragua and came to the us at the age of eight, has lived here since then and she is a miami and. she is a republican. [applause] needless to say donna brazile is a democrat and born in new orleans, raised there and went to school in louisiana we got to know her in 2000 when she iran al gore's campaign which of course ended in our state and as so many things do began as well. [laughter] she was the democratic national committee interim chair from july 2016 to february 2017 succeeding debbie wasserman schultz and i think they probably will say something about why she succeeded debbie and if you want to see more i interviewed donna a few minutes ago and we will run that interview on sunday morning. i loved it for the 2008 democratic national convention donna told steven colbert quote i like, look, i'm a woman so i like hillary and i'm black so like obama and i also am grumpy so i like mccain. [laughter] i don't think she's in a grumpy mood she's in a great mood and aside from the one hour it took here to get here from her hotel so please welcome to outstanding women, donna brazile and anna navarro. [applause] [inaudible] >> given current circumstances i thank you should go on the [inaudible] i've known for a long time that she was a sister. this is my sister from another mother. hello, i am in your home. >> hello, girl. welcome. [speaking in native tongue] all right. so, first of all, do you know this little book there began as a little before 34 years ago? i am so proud of this college and so proud of -- [inaudible] i am from miami so we like to it's the best [bleep] literacy in the world. >> i agree with you. i agree. the heat is playing tonight, right? [applause] this is another kind of heat we will set off tonight. were going to set off a heat wave. in this book you talk about storm and i don't know but it since you set foot in this town, it has not stopped raining. [laughter] >> be careful because we've now had to leap. the next one will be on [inaudible] and that one -- >> maybe we may have to go down to [inaudible] for climate change in the white house. >> i'm telling you. >> we worry about that here in miami because. [inaudible conversations] >> i'm from new orleans and we have three seasons, shrimp, crab fish and [inaudible] and the last thing i want is another storm. how was your day, honey? >> 's height. i've been a little frazzled. they put up a term it ten in my house and i thought it was very fitting that after dealing with the bugs in florida we could talk the bugs in washington. >> amen. amen. >> a lot of bugging going on. >> you need to get a little boric acid and i need to do a little for you. >> i have no idea what you said. cleaning is on my forte. so, i just finished reading the book and it took me forever to find it to mail it to me and you didn't even sign it for me. >> well, i will sign it tonight. >> you know, the book made me a little sad in the book made me a little sad because i lived a lot of this, as your friend, as her sister, as a cnn colleague, as a political activist, as an american and the threat on democracy that the 2016 election had meant, i think it is something that when we read about it it makes me so sad because you go through a chronological order and it also made me sad because i lived through this with you a lot of it and the separate murder. >> you are with me. >> the death of your dog you adored, the loss of her job at cnn which was a family for you. the loss of election and the loss of friends i think the selection has been hard for you and i heard a lot of pain and a lot of grief in your voice in this book. how are you doing? how you doing now? >> do you want me to dance? >> stopped, last time you danced you lost an election. [laughter] >> that is true. i did dance across the stage. i thought i had it and i thought i could do the job and i thought that i was ready to do the job. i didn't want to do the job the party was hacked and as a result of the hacking and the release of the selective release of certain e-mails i took the job when debbie stepped aside, i stepped back up. how my feeling now? i'm still disappointed that people are not outraged by the fact that we had a foreign government interfere in our election. i live in real-time. i thought real-time. yet a year ago people called me quote unquote crazy. they're calling me crazy again. next time i take a job that doesn't pay money call me crazy. >> i told you not to take it and that you are a masochist you did track. >> i told you it would be thankless. >> when i took this job i had no idea the extent of the hacking. i knew that a few e-mails had been leaked and i knew that several donors had been compromised and i knew that many of our staff money were under attack but i had no idea it would impact my life but the whole country and there was this moment when i would call you and as public as we cannot do this alone because our country was being attacked by a hostile foreign government. it is like someone comes in and paint your house and they come into the window or through the door but unlike watergate this was a 21st century crime, a cybercrime, and no one at the dnc because of the layers we had no one told the person at the top that things are not happened in the right way so by the time i became chair it was already a mark and after i was seeing my brief i would've gone to the pentagon and they said we had suspicious packages in a few months before someone said there was a snake and then i started getting those crazy quote unquote products. how much do i know now? i think american people should be outraged because we should never let this happen again. [applause] so we misjudged john justo, we know his reputation and we know that [inaudible] but you didn't see the ones i gave to bernie or anyone else because wikileaks santos. they wanted you to see the hillary ones that she was what donald trump is in every night. i saw her every night and by the way, we are on the enemies list. he likes me one day. >> [inaudible] [laughter] >> i can assure you nothing is going on. he's not my type. [laughter] and you are not his. provided compete in ms. usa i would come up with first place. to the women who did not win -- >> you got ahead of schedule on me but -- go ahead you talk about sending e-mails. it is incredible how much 2016 on the democratic side in particular was all about e-mai e-mails. >> you know, the e-mails and that might have been decided by a sex scandal not involving brooklyn -- anyway, it was all about e-mails and you just talked about the her campaign and that clears up. i was confused by the book and i was confused by some your answers. did you send e-mails with the big questions to hillary clinton. >> i gave everybody a heads up. let's go back to steps. one reason why cnn want to me to put out a statement that i thought was untrue and i said i don't want you to do that. i also said don't my life at stake because at this point in the campaign i recognize that people were doing with these e-mails and i said don't friend me, unlike some people i don't have to [inaudible], i have jesus. i told michelle, looked at me and i said yeah, and so cnn wanted to say and i said no, you and i -- >> i know you didn't take questions from cnn because it's impossible. we know how this works. cnn and i suspect other networks we know how cnn works they established something the cone of silence, special room and none of us are allowed anywhere near it. look, were not even in the same hotel -- >> the ritz-carlton, we know because -- you got the questions but you did not get them from seeing it. >> first of all, can we talk? >> go ahead. >> if you read the question, you will know that they never came from cnn. what cnn did get for me was a lot of debate because i was on the precipice of the debate. i was under pressure to expand the member debate town hall and forum and i was also under pressure for black ice matter and the many activists to expand the quote unquote diversity because i love wolf and jake and gina but they don't look like me or you. right? >> right. >> so the pressure i was under is the vice chair of the party and i was under another kind of pressure with cnn it was to produce diversity as well as additional questions and topics that had not been addressed. when we expanded the number of debates and forums the both of which went to cnn, thank you very much, i love cnn. i still love cnn. but we we expanded we are about to give criminal justice, definitely, this is my favorite one, flint water crisis, i have been working with [inaudible] been working with a bunch of other people and we decided rather than go to another quote unfulfilled debate for we talk about the arms race in e-mails we had worked together and we had come up with a lot of questions and i also said in the book i would give it on the panel and i would give them copies. i've always given people's heads up. next year saying sending those e-mails was a mistake. >> absolutely. you know why strike because if you're going to have e-mails sent, if you'll only have people see what you sent to one people but not the other and when i went to look back, my files had been wiped clean. so i couldn't defend myself. i took all the hit. >> i have to tell you for me it has been difficult and painful, as you know. i stood up for you and defended you and at the same time i very much understand the need that cnn has and the duty they have to suspend their journalistic integrity and their brand and, you know, particularly in the face of such attack right now about big news in the media and all these attacks and the question didn't come from cnn and cnn process wasn't -- they sent donna brazile to give water and put michigan as a pr thing and donna brazile and one of the people she gave water to was one of the questions she gave to our site. you don't send donna to talk to people because she will look you to confess everything in your life. bottom line, cnn process was not [inaudible]. do regret having sent e-mails so can we all just be friends? >> can i say something to you? >> i have found these stages painful. >> of all the things i regretted this because and. [laughter] i also have probably fixed in and if i do something bad i will do penance because that's the only way to get back to grace and i apologize. the first thing i did when i cannot find my e-mails because there was a dmc e-mails that were hacked and stolen and i called bernie sanders and said i need help. and you know what, bernie staff went out and me on television when i was getting beat up and they knew i was there. one thing i will always say i will be fair and i'm still going to try to fight but i'm a fighter. it may be sad that no one went out there and said hillary campaign and here's the dilemma i am in. then we'll get to juicy topics. ... the only person in america that has verified the e-mails from wikileaks above only person verifying that [laughter] it's okay, i'm a big girl. i take my hits because i give it out and i dish it, too. all i want us to learn from the 2016 is that we can no longer is a country believe the elections are secured from cyber attacks. if we learn anything from reading my 260 page book is that you can no longer get a thumb drive at a convention and stick it in your computer. you can no longer go around with your home address and passwords. if my book tells you anything, it's that we have to take prudent steps to secure the democracy and ensure that this doesn't happen again. if somebody offered you robles to place an ad -- [laughter] during some of the workdays she would call me late at night. are you home? when i didn't get a call from a bout of people, she would call me and say lets me take you to lunch. sometimes when you lose elections, people lose your na name. if they don't worry if your bills are being paid, if you are able to get back up, they move on. they go back to their wonderful life's and you know who stuck around to make sure all the kids were okay, me, who had health insurance, me. you know who made sure i was being taken care of, this woman. that's why she is my friend and in this book. [applause] i think too often nowadays we are defining the relationship and friendship be it in the workplace, families, marriages, friendships and politics and that strikes me as a dumb thing to do. to lose a real friendship because somebody may have voted for something different than you did i'm not sure that then you can define that. so, talking about friendships, was this book hard to write? access key, obama left the dnc in debt and debbie wasserman schultz went along with all of this because she likes the power of being chair but not the responsibility. so how was your friendship with the clintons and obama be stays? >> i don't have anything to add more in politics i answer to you the voter and donor it's never been a candidate that he -- i said at the age of nine because they wanted a playground and while the city council candidates that promised the playground kept its promise, to me it was all about getting people active, engaged, and involved in the political process. when you walk out of a building in the league with $23.5 million in debt, you should be ashamed of yourself if the person who walks behind you into the room kinds of people are getting paid $25,000 a month and don't even come in the office. i'm driving my car with my debt and go everywhere with my nickels and dimes and they are getting 25,000 a month you think i'm going to just sit there and say madam chair do you want to drive -- no. i don't even like uber. i will never have one of those cars with no driver behind them. we like to control the wheel. do you need a consultant? though, we are broke. madam chair -- and i'm like cutout that madam chair stuff and no, i just want to win but i got to get this now and i said i want you to take 10,000, not 15, 25 or 30. i made a lot of enemies. i am not reporting to the consultants. they are my friends living off the gravy train and they didn't like that i called it the gravy train. [inaudible] every one of his birthday parties if i had to do it all over again i would do that because i love them. why did you write this book? no one wanted to tell the true story and did you think i was going to wait until the director of the congressional committee told you we were hacked, you think i was going to wait until the american people woke up and figured it out? though. they tried to discredit our elections and hurt our nominee and i wanted to tell it. [applause] this is my second book i've written columns every week. when you lose the electoral college but he won the popular vote, i go to harvard so i studied a lot. i kept all of my notes. i have my calendar and all the records, i have everything. do they need to know and they come and say you don't need to know. okay, three weeks why don't you know, but i did ask. i would have blown up the process and so i just kept my mouth shut. every moment of every employee being told i couldn't spend money. as a conservative, i may not look like one, but i am. my mother used to tell us focus on the recipe. [laughter] leave it at that. don't get in my business. [laughter] they are not coming by my house anymore. why are you getting the off-topic. i have no idea where were we. [laughter] this is why we used to be on cnn and they would try to talk about this different stuff. we had our own conversation and when we left we would go over to the bar and orders the fact night and eat dozens of oysters. no one argued over this. life is too important and too short to define people by values and shared experiences, to define people by accomplishments. they find people by consensus in dc and how they get around them, to find people in politics. we've lost the ability in america to be with people that think differently, look differently, talk differently and have a different accent than we do and i think that is one of the biggest problems but that doesn't mean you can't have a friendship and doesn't mean that you can share things i can't shn and that you love america and want to see the best in your country. >> i was talking about the $8 million. >> they gave me 2 million for ten weeks. they said what do you have to lose and i was thinking about this. i'm in the chair's office like the conference room for people and i started saying obamacare, climate change, civil rights, voting rights. start writing a column and then i'm going to do and add to respond to what do you have to lose. >> and you've got no money. >> they said don't worry, madam chair. i said donald trump is talking to people that i know. we've got to respond before to tell thewith whatto tell them bi could think was what to write today because i have no money. the money i was raising wasn't under my control, and this was the best part. even when i wrote a press release, and in my view i was a newspaper columnist and i wrote every week. they would have to improve my press release. you've got person half my age i went along to get along and just kept tabs. i would have written the book had a run t they run the light l college -- electoral college. i would have climbed the wall and came right back home. [laughter] utopia of calling bernie sanders and telling him and try to figure out if and you call him up and find this document some call a bernie sanders and say i found the cancer but i'm not going to kill the patient so i guess the basic question is wasy does the dnc primary process for hillary. this is somebody that knows the rules. you want them to at least appear to be fair. i stepped aside because i want them to have a fair fight and also i was for al gore and that is the last time i actually supported somebody in the primary. i don't get involved in the presidential primaries anymore. so, i tend to watch from the sidelines but i am on the rules committee. what i wanted to do is go in and determine if the money that was being spent before the primary had ended had aided the process and what i found that supported me and was unacceptable even for me to do my job as the chair. she put us on a starvation diet which was fine, but i owed it to him because i promised i would get to the bottom of it. we go back. he was antiestablishment. i got kicked out the door but it's all right. you can come back in through the window. [laughter] i wanted them to be a part of what was going to happen. hillary won the primary fair and square. she had 4 million more than bernie and didn't set the date in louisiana. she also had her delegates and more on pledged delegates. i don't know if you had they called for the elimination of unpledged delegates so we need to have these debates within the party and have this conversation. if not now, then when, what are some of the specific reforms that would like to see? >> the commission is going to take all beat on pledged delegates and also take a look at the window of what states go before hours and once upon a time we will see this because people are going early and i just want to make sure you know this pops up all the time. they are doing a great job of reforming the party and that is why we have so many great victories across the country. let's start by being honest. howard dean was absolutely right we have to have a 50 state strategy. i love the electoral votes but there is no reason why from florida all the way to cross into mexico there is no other state on this side of the line that gets resources. virginia gets a few dollars, north carolina. so we have missed opportunities over the last ten years and on tuesday they invested the rate for victory after victory and by the way, we are now 450 votes short from winning 300 more seats in virginia so it is important that we invest and put resources across the country for the prescription which is all 50 states. >> should the dnc get rid of the delegates? >> can i just say no comment? i think we need to have a healthy debate about it. i don't want voters to think that my vote matters more than their vote. and as long as you have that perception, i don't want that. so, with that in mind, i understand people like me in the future if i need delegates in the future i can run. now i don't know as a former chair emeritus i may have a certain status. >> there's a point in the book where you say why wasn't obama talking about the intelligence? where were the intelligence agencies, this was a national emergency. that is a point that i've hurt a lot of republicans make. if this was all happening why wasn't president obama talking about it. >> my understanding is that president obama went to the leadership in congress, republicans and democrats and mitch mcconnell said you should not make a big deal about this and go public. and so the president decided, because he told the president it would tip the scale. i know that leader pelosi and paul ryan ignored her and i know that the chair man went to his counterpart at the national republican congressional committee and was ignored and on october 18 after our visit with the hs, i went to october 4 the vice presidential debate in virginia and there is a picture, he looked at me and i said you know that this is happening. >> this is another revelation in the book. i tried to reach out to sean spicer, and not the melissa mccarthy shall sean spicer. [laughter] i wanted to know if the dnc went down, we would corrupt the system across the country and i wanted to make sure that the system was protected because we had major political parties and databases for all of the american voters and i was worried. people call me angry and yes i am a little bit upset about the republicans ignored it and the reason that obama didn't use the boat people put more the way you saw angela merkel use it in germany is because he was told he would tip the scale and i think it is one othe there is on and that is because the hillary clinton campaign they were convinced he would win. meanwhile here i am putting cold water. who else would know [inaudible] i mentioned i walk into the ballroom and they are sitting there filling out their administration and i set it to you know why, because there is no electricity and they looked at the. i said there's a long line to philadelphia and he looked at me it wasn't until like 7:00 that night i was so angry at this point. i worked on the campaign so i said what are you doing here ask you should be and they were not panicking. they thought they were going to win. all they kept saying to me have you seen the exit polls? [laughter] [applause] i do have a history with you a all. >> i want to talk about something that i know is very close to you. we were giving a speech in the west coast when you found out this young man had been murdered. i remembered you crying that they and how heartbroken. tell us about that. >> she was one of my kids. i have so many children. i've never given birth but i've given political birth. he was so bright and so smart, so ambitious and my department isn't the least glorious. the institute after the election in 2000. and often it is hard to recruit people to come and work in the department because of his hard work and this came with such enthusiasm he wanted to help us build this platform. he succeeded beyond imagination creating the platform for this party, so when i received a call it devastated me because he was my child. i have been to their homes, visited a synagogue, spoken at their service to raise money for a summer camp program. he was a patriot and honorable human being who was murdered in washington, d.c.. it pains me to see so many lives out there that come from places that i would never go that corrupt our system. but say they were leaking male e-mails that had no administrative control. so, i can tell you this on behalf of all the staff and former colleagues we left him. he was our friend. a great honorable young man and i hope we bring the person or individuals that are heard him to death, he's my child. last weekend before we had a tremendous victory across the country there were people criticizing me for the timing of my book. nobody criticized the three weeks ago when i was raising money for the dnc, and for the virginia democratic party. nobody's going to criticize me for going to alabama and a couple of weeks but to put pen to paper and say this is what happens based on the views and experience of the former chair so that sunday i said something i do have regrets. i told them to go to hell. and i have to tell you all something. they are my friends and i will fight for them and for my country. my dad would tell you go do something else, too mac and my mother would have said when they go though, we go high. so i've been trying to go high in the last couple of days because my motivation of greatness was to made sure we were never attacked again, that we find out the truth about what happened in 2016. when the person elected by which donald trump all the best in the world because he's my president. i know you are not going to agree with that. i pray for donald trump and the only way i've been able to get rid of some of the anger is by praying for him. doctor king reminded us don't let any man bring you so low as to hate him. i was diagnosed with ptsd and was like what is.com and grinding my teeth, i was just rattled. writing me about -- > two br where of campaigns and politics. if i increased 12 embrace, then i would succeed and if i upset my friend and they don't invite me. i'm going to pray for them the same way when i came to florida after the election and the mayor was with me, my other friend, i've got about five. [laughter] and they are all good friends alike. we were together and she looked at me and said how are you holding on and i said i'm reading the bible and studying. tubman. i read harriet tubman for courage and i thank god that my prayers were answered and faith restored and courage would be tell you i am my daddy's girl after all. [applause] one of the reasons i don't get into a fight with her. i remember when we went to see the pope when he came to the united states. we had to get something to dri drink. at 5:00 in the morning we were eating and she had a bag like the one mary poppins had in the movie and it was full of things and i thought to myself i'm never messing with this woman. [laughter] we are going to take questions from the audience, but i want to ask a couple more questions. one is this watershed moment that we are living. how has it changed you've been working in the east male-dominated roles. >> i wish that it would have came to life 40 years ago. the sexist jokes and conversations that you have to endure. there was this one guy i had to threaten him i'm going to walk you. i took him to the campaign office and pushed him like that. i used to be stronger when i was younger. i said if i hear from one more stafford you are touching her inappropriately, or suggesting anything, i'm going to throw you off the campaign bus. i've had to protect so many young staffers and i've had my moments but everybody knew don't touch them because i never believed in the casting couch and i used to tell the girls you don't have to sit on the couch, that is a metaphor. you don't have to sleep with anybody to get the poles to the top. so i'm glad it's changed and i'm glad we are talking about it. [applause] people are in powerful positions and that's why when i was chair i made it clear to my staff i said i am your staff. anybody that wants to work hard and fight to the last day you are welcome to sit at the table and you don't get promoted because of who you know and what you get promoted for its what you do out there to lift people up and get people involved and i am glad we are having this conversation. what worries me as he decided not to talk. he showed talk about it because he has a daughter and granddaughters. he should talk about it, but he is afraid and i'm disappointed in him. >> in alabama, he could actually make a difference. it would be incredibly shameful for the con très were the republican party if a child predator were to get in there. [applause] he was banned from the mall. how do you get banned from the mall. it was creepy. [laughter] [inaudible] i believe that women, hashed. [applause] it should not be political. when we talk about harvey weinstein and when we talk about roy moore. >> and kevin spacey. i've been on house of cards twice. this is why i will miss her. but you know what, you are right we need to have a zero-tolerance book. people, citizens, we need to speak up. this is about power and about abusive power. we need to educate our young boys and girls and as a country and a society we need to understand sexual assault is not acceptable. the students on campus, i preach at georgetown and harvard, zero-tolerance. you know what i do a couple of days ago i went to the bathroom stall and i put here is what you should know. i still caused trouble. >> it's been disappointing because of politics, people who work so quick to believe the case are now quoting the bible and not be leaving the women. this is not republicans versus democrats or establishment versus state, it is morality, decency, basic rights and wrongs. >> i've read it on multiple occasions and i can quote it. i wanted to be a priest when i was a little girl. my mother put me out of my misery. i go to church now and i say bless me, i have seen what about you. giving up coffee, caffeine and liquor. >> jesus is a miracle, he turned water into wine, listens to his mother and got the party started. [laughter] [applause] you've burned some bridges with this book. what is the next chapter? i'm very excited to go back but i enjoyed the most. he was lucky, but my first [inaudible] he's gone through so much, he's gone through katrina and i were little earthquake in dc. a little boy died and i've never cried that hard in my life. when i was at this moment in my life when i thought i would be back with my dog and i started thinking about my life -- i'm 57 and i said i want to go back to teaching because through my entire time i kept my schedule just like al gore's campaign manager i love teaching. that's why i'm at harvard and a hoover 200 college campuses, giving commencement speeches. it takes the least amount of money but the greatest amount of joy. i'm going back to what i do best. i'm going back to teach. [applause] >> we have questions. >> can i see them in advance? [laughter] i am an open book. >> you've covered so much of what was asked. i think the first one we could start as a young person in the audience asked a question of both of you and said how can i know political experience contribute and get into politics because i admire both of you for being so powerful and vocal so what advice would you give for someone who wants to get involved politically. >> there's a thousand ways. you show up at the town hall, you get on the social media. it's got very good things about it and gives people a platform. both of us started making phone calls we start learning the process and growing networks. three words, answer the call. i tell my students each and every one of you were born for a purpose. this generation we need you on the battlefield, we need your wisdom, answer the call. >> you know what else is very important is knowing who you are and what is important for you. knowing the convictions and what you stand for and who you should support and can support and live with supporting should be less about labels and more about principles. [applause] >> talk about your political influences and of those you admire the most today. the basis of the question is how did donna brazile become donna brazile? >> i'm probably one of the luckiest kids alive. i got a chance to meet her and she inspired me. i got the chance to work with somebody that worked in the administration's and i got a chance to learn shirley chisholm and work with jesse jackson. i can go on and on. but the people that are out there on the front line creating change, not just the lawmakers that the people you see on television and out in the streets trying to reignite the campaign, i am always looking for leadership and people trying to make a difference. so those that are servants and willing to make a sacrifice. >> thank you. to pick up on what you said before, here is a question. do you feel president trump has developed a new coalition, people lik like like the two ofu sitting up here today being interviewed by lawrence o'donnell and being on his show to hear george will on rachel matthau etc.. what might this mean politically for the future after trump? >> you can disagree with me on this one, i'm very disappointed in donald trump. [laughter] [applause] he was open to people who disagreed with him. when i saw george herbert walker bush sign the civil rights act, i said he was open to people who disagree with him. when i saw george walker bush. this president is closed and he is closed to listening to people who can make a difference. i thought charlottesville would be my last straw with him. you know how you give men a first and second chance, i've given him so many chances to repeat himself. he has no manners. he came back and redeemed himself. we all say i need forgiveness. if you do people. i'm done with it. [applause] i think that he's got america awoke in a way that we have not been before this. i think that america learned a year ago the difference that voting me as and learned in the last year not to take democracy for granted and the duties and privileges that come with it. i think we've gotten a little too comfortable. even as easy as it is to vote, most of us don't. i think you have seen things like the women's march. they went online the day after the election and so i'm going to go to washington and march and women showed up to march with her. we have seen people taking action. there is a list of things you can do. either boycott or support depending what side you are on. i have a great excuse to go shopping. now i have to buy a keurig and ready whip. [laughter] people are showing up at airports. there is nothing more horrible than having to fill up at mia. people are showing up. showing up at the offices to help these folks coming in. i think they have said we are not going to take it. we are going to defend democracy and our rights. we saglass ceilings beingbroken. [applause] i think people are getting involved and making a differen difference. this leads me into the next question. [laughter] to tell you the truth, first of all i can't afford it i am what you see. i hold no secrets, i am with you see and it's hard to wrestle with which is why we make the sacrifice to do it for the right reasons. it is part of your life. you've are under the public scrutiny the entire timecome it is a sacrifice for your family and loved ones because of the amount of time that you are a way and there's only so many pairs of shoes that you can't afford. but there are many ways to serve. the office is the most visible. at the age of 53 i was appointed to the fulbright scholarship. you can be appointed to office and work on campaigns in many ways. [applause] that would be great. here is the dark side of all of this you eluded to a little bit. the question is what has it meant for, what kind of danger have you experienced since you have been so outspoken and that's something you have spoken about as well. >> i disagree with myself sometimes. [laughter] i don't run out of the room and scream. you shouldn't result in name-calling threat. last year it went beyond the typical name-calling. people take things literally no. to go to the library and read it, i love public libraries. please do not threaten me. when they would say my name i didn't want to go anywhere near my house. [applause] if you were to see me in 2005 and 2006, all the way to 2009 in the white house, there is more time in the george w. bush white house then clinton because i am a native of the south. i wanted to rebuild a home state and the gulf coast. when i go home tomorrow, i'm going to see a not just a new level of trauma that we have put out the new veterans administration hospital. there is no doubt that there is political bullying. >> tell al sharpton that i'm not available. [laughter] they were setting the tone in the presidential pulpit. that is true. i live it every day and were then that, this animosity and these attacks on the legitimate media. i feel bad for a lot of the borrowers come and places like cnn i don't need to poke fun at thofthe camera of any good folkn the makeup room and the folks behind the camera who have to go drop off their children out of school and everybody knows they work for cnn and that kind of attack and animosity that i thinbut i thinkthat it's also lt journalism. i think we have seen the worst of journalism and the best of journalism by those that refuse to be bullied and scared and who remember it means sticking to facts, searching out the stories, revealing the truth no matter what. we are seeing it in people like katie couric. there are great journalists emerging in this critical moment in america right now. [applause] i just want to say this was a remarkable evening and one that we will not forget. [applause] thank you for allowing me to be here and i also want to thank my good friend, my colleague, my sister friend for also being such a wonderful woman. [applause] books are available outside. donna will be here signing books as well. thank you all for coming. [applause] >> cyr is data points number one in 1952 mit made the first manufacturing machine. it's based on an offshoot whirlwind whic of which is the t real-time computer. there's plenty of room off to the right. in the first computer that led to modern computing architectures and aircraft emerging when the parser to be hard to make by hand. that was the birth of modern manufacturing. the lab is a descendent where we look at how to turn digital data physical and physical data digital so it is among the first quantum computers. first thing in the architecture how to put things in everyday devices that is the research we do. to teach students to do that research i taught a class how to make almost anything and every year hundreds show up begging to get in. they do projects. one had a browser for parents to surf the internet and another had an alarm clock to prove that you are awake. the first have no technical background and here is that project. do you ever find yourself in a situation that you can't because you were in a classroom or work [inaudible] screen body is a portable place to screen. it's recorded how, when and where. [inaudible conversations] that has to do with what we are here for today the whirlwind pbp created the internet and built the home computer industry, the founder said nobody needs a computer at home. thithis has been so consistentli realized i was asking how to do digital fabrication but not why and they were shoving the killer application of the digital fabrication like digital computing is personal fabrication products not for the massmarketing but if you didn't do this and start a business, she wanted a device for screaming. .. ..