I want to thank the ambassadors and for their presence here today. Id like to turn to discussing the importance of cyber terrorism in our fight against our cyber warfare that is infighting against terrorism. Would you agree for small that our nation cyber activities are increasingly important as we carry out the fight against isis, al qaeda and the Arabian Peninsula . Okay. Do you have any thoughts related to policy funding or other legislative initiatives that we need to be embarking on to improve our Cyber Capabilities . Is a very big question and i dont think im prepared to answer that in its entirety so let me put a couple facets of the question is the second today. Were happy to come back and discuss it. It is a broad question but i want you to was nearly on the counterterrorism. I think one of the vulnerabilities that we face is that the shady figures who are willing to sell on the dark web exploit capable taking advantage of vulnerabilities and common use of Software Products have insufficient scruples to prevent them from selling to rogue states and they sell to organized crime and my concern is that they would also be willing to sell these sorts of Cyber Weapons to terrorist organizations. I am not aware of any intelligence indicating that that is in fact happening but its a risk that i think is or is that we should take seriously and think about addressing. Just days ago i visited fort meade, the armys Cyber Command specifically 780th military intelligence brigade text force echo. I was getting information about dod cyber activity as they relate to counterterrorism and i had the pleasure of visiting with members of the internet Indiana National guard in learning more about their work and so i just wanted to let people publicly know that im proud of their activities and as things come up i hope you let this committee know and our office about things that we ought to be doing here on the hill to further their efforts and others were involved in this fight. Id like to turn to another Technology Issue and its isr. In testimony before the Armed Services committee on march 9 of the sheer general matter of effort, stated that only approximately 20 to 30 of the requirements are met. On october 30 i asked secretary mattis about this isr shortfall he said general was one 100 correct. Secretary mattis said all combatant commands suffer from an isr shortfall. The secretary said that there is a finite amount of isr assets and we deal them out like gold coins to the various commands. Ambassador sales, is the coordinator for counterterrorism and you agree with the assessment of general secretary of defense mattis regarding the short . Well, senator, and certainly not in a position to secondguess military experts on what their operational needs and tail for in light of their hardware capabilities. Invocations as i understand it are pretty severe, right . This will play an adverse blow to our Situational Awareness in our support of operations and it will prevent us from getting early notice about. Threats and i have no doubt that are members of the military and others involved in these efforts are doing the best they can with limited resources but despite these efforts can you provide any additional detail on operationally how the lack of isr has impacted our effort in north africa . Thats a great question, senator. I defer to the pentagon because it is dod that determines what their Operational Requirements are. They operate and i defer to them, sir. Okay. As a diplomat you work with other countries in our nato allies quite a bit and have there been conversations with them about how they might help augment our resources in this area . Senator, one of the most important commitments that present has asked our allies to make in nato and elsewhere as well is to share a greater portion of the burden of our mutual selfdefense. We are constantly talking with nato allies and other allies about what we can do and what they can do to contribute more to our shared efforts. I suspect that isr would be no. Ive not participated but maybe he could elaborate. Senator, i think we could have a discussion in a closed session about these issues and there is a counterterrorism operation and i think we have to do that in close session. Thank you. Thank you. As i think about counterterrorism efforts were one of the efforts that im troubled about is what i think is now a permanent problem of migrants and refugees. I have a very different thought that the president does about what to do about it but i actually think he is right that this refugee crisis at any point in time with tens of millions of refugees and migrants it does raise concerns about terrorists taking over the borders and raises other concerns. Even wellmeaning people seeking a Refugee Status moving into a country like jordan that doesnt have resources with like water can create instability in jordan and refugees from syria they going to lebanon when theres not enough of the School System for lebanese kids and this can create challenges. Terrorism, instability, there are major major issues that refugees and migrants operations create and frankly i think we used to thinking of refugees and migrant issues as episodic but frankly we have to view them as normal and likely to be somewhat permanent based on violence from the war, corruption and all issues that drive us. You the First State Department witnesses ive had before me since this happened you get the benefit of being asked the question about it but i was stunned when the Trump Administration announced saturday, friday or saturday, they were pulling out of the Global Dialogue on refugee issues in mexico this week. Every nation in the Un General Assembly voted on it nonbinding compact in december 2016 called in your contact that basically say this is refugee issue is getting out of hand we better come up with best practice issues to deal with it. The nations of the world are gathering in mexico this week to talk to what our new best practices for dealing with migrants and refugees. Principals meeting was called by the Administration Last week to try to decide what to do about the contact and the meeting this week. My own investigation into what happened suggest that going into that meeting the state department, department of defense, cia director pale in the un Ambassador Haley all believe that you should participate. That solving this problem was more likely to happen if the us was at the table and rather than not but my own discussions with people were there suggested that others, the chief of staff of the white house, the white house advisor steve muller and the attorney general said no, we should pull out of even having a dialogue with other nations about refugee and reporting that reason advance was this was an asian part of the Obama Initiative and we shouldnt stay with it. In your brief, both of you, working in counterterrorism issues do you think that we will be able to better deal with those issues if the us is absent from a Global Dialogue about the extent of the problem and how we should handle it or do you think are more likely to come up good answers the us is at the table . Senator, i cant speak specifically to the decision about the iom for what i can tell you is that regardless of multilateral fora we are constantly undertaking robust Bilateral Dialogue with other countries that face the same problems that share the same values as us and that is especially true when it comes to the persons related to the foreign terrorist fighter phenomenon. Constantly having conversations with those in the middle east that can be transit countries for the movement of persons, legitimate refugees who need our assistance but also terrorists who might seek to exploit our hospitality. Were working with those dialoguing of the sources including in north africa and were in conversation with countries that could be the targets of attack melted by foreign fighters and try to exploit flows and elsewhere around the world. I would caution that the United States, whatever United States engagement is in multilateral institutions there are other constitution conversations taking place to address these matters of global concern. I understand that but would either of you care to offer a defense for why the United States should not be participating in this Global Compact that we agreed to support less than a year and a half ago . We would have to take the question for the record. I havent been issued personal personally. Likewise. Will ask you for the record then. Thank you. Thank you, senator. I have some questions but given the lateness of the hour im going to smith them for the record. Thank you so much for being here thank you for your service. 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