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[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> good afternoon. my name is winnie stachelberg and on the executive vice president for external affairs at the center for american progress. before we begin our program, please join us in letting everyone know that our thoughts and prayers are with those suffering from the devastating impacts of natural disasters here in the united states, in our territories abroad, and around the world. we hope for the safety and relief of individuals, families, and communities affected. welcome to today's timely discussion regarding state and local actions to promote public safety and increased inclusion for immigrants and refugee communities across the country. generations of immigrants have built and strengthened american communities since the beginning of our nation's history. but at certain moments in time, and we are in one of those moments today, we have experienced a pervasive and dangerous form of nationalism that has made strangers out of friends, neighbors, and beloved community members. the reality is that many immigrants who have come to this country seeking a more prosperous and peaceful life have instead become subject to the politics of fear and to policies that fall short of true american patriotism, one which welcomes the stranger and pursues the common good. today we will discuss how state and local communities can rise above fear and hatred, and come together to promote policies that support and welcome immigrants and refugees. and that doing so can become a core element of how they build and foster resilient communities. as a part of welcoming week, a national effort to celebrate welcoming policies across america, we are excited to partner with welcoming america to bring you a diverse group of local voices who are standing up against divisive rhetoric, and bring others into preserve the richness and vitality of americans neighborhoods. at the center for american progress we have highlighted the dangers influent of anti-immigrant groups on the trump administration immigration policy, and will continue providing facts and research addressing the costs to the economy, to families, and to communities resulting from mass deportation policies, increased militarization of border communities, and expanded interior enforcement efforts. and based on the research we conduct, this is what we know. contrary to this administrations claims, research shows that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than the us-born population. during trump's first 100 days in office, immigration arrests rose by more than 37%, despite his campaign promise to deport only those with criminal records. his administration has made all unauthorized immigrants a priority for deportation, with arrest rates more than doubling for immigrants without criminal records. and nearly 6 million u.s. citizen children live with at least one unauthorized family member. since the election we've seen reports from across the country of spikes in fear and distress among young children because of fears of potentially losing a loved one to detention or deportation. with all of this increased enforcement, the administrations decision just two weeks ago to resend daca program and leave nearly 800,000 young people in limbo one of catastrophic human and social economic consequences. kappa research has found that taking daca recipients out of the workforce would result in a loss of more than $460 billion from our national and gdp in the next ten years. in california alone, home to the largest share of daca beneficiaries, removing the 194,000 daca eligible workers would cost more than $11.6 billion in annual gdp losses. for states like texas where we saw dreamers risking their lives during hurricane harvey relief efforts, we can expect $6.3 billion in annual losses, as 108,000 workers could be removed from their labor force. meanwhile, recent polls show us that americans widely support giving dreamers the chance to stay permanently in america, including 73% of trump voters. allowing these young immigrants to stay in the united states is both moral and an economic imperative. just this week we released a new analysis which finds that passing the dream act of placing all of the immediately eligible workers on a path to legal status would add at least accumulative $281 billion to the u.s. gdp over a decade, a figure that could rise to a site as $1 trillion if everyone who could be eligible for the dream act is put on a path to citizenship. today we will hear directly from civic leaders and law enforcement officials from places as diverse as texas, iowa, california, and here in the district of columbia as they share experiences and lessons with us. but first it' is my pleasure to introduce and welcome california senate president pro tem kevin de leon. center daily own tenacious leadership has paved the way for smart, progressive policy that serve as national models. just a few days ago the senate bill 54, the california values act deemed the most comprehensive bill to protect undocumented immigrants residing in the state cleared the state legislature and that's not painting governor jerry brown's expected signature. this model policy would ensure that undocumented friends, neighbors, and coworkers in california are able to live their lives and interact with law enforcement without fear of deportation. but this isn't the first groundbreaking process the center has worked on. in 2016, he successfully negotiated with governor brown and the state unions to secure a $15 minimum wage law in california and he was instrumental in the establishment of california secure choice retirement program, retirement savings program, which assists california retirees and is a national model for retirement security. senator de leon is also a national leader on climate and energy policy, and is the first latino to ever hold the position of president pro tem of the california state senate. please join me in welcoming back to c.a.p., california senate president pro tem kevin de leon. [applause] >> thank you so very much, winnie. i, too, want to associate mike comments, i want to ago on behalf of the state of california are deepest condolences to the people of mexico. i've been in touch with the governor who happens to be in a belief in new york or connecticut right now as we speak, to see what is it that we can do as a state to provide our next-door neighbors with assistance that are needed during this very difficult tragedy in mexico. we will be in touch as baltimore with the mexican ambassador, tomorrow in d.c., so i thank you very much, winnie, for bringing this up. good afternoon, and i want you thank you all for inviting me to join you here today. i want to thank winnie for the very kind introduction of my person, and a very proud to be at the center for american progress, which is become a bastion of progressive thought and policy, in less than 15 years since its founding. i want to thank you for the tremendous work that you do. i can't tell you how valuable it is as a lawmaker to have credible, rigorous third-party analysis on issues like immigration, healthcare, as well as climate change here and as you know the california state legislature just concluded its work for the year. i am biased of course butt ugly firmly that this was truly a historic, productive session. from a record investments in public education, and vital infrastructure like a fort warehousing, transportation, parks and water, to our successful extension of california's landmark climate carpentry program. and the single largest investment in clean air, in state history. we also took important steps to preserve the character of our state, the quality that made california a very special place. from the outset we made it clear we would protect our people and our progress. and for obvious reasons, immigration was front and center. for those familiar with the california's complicated history with immigration policy, from the chinese exclusion act to pete wilson's proposition 187 in the early '90s was cut off access ven been to public educa, health care and other vital services for undocumented immigrants. we have not always been as tolerant and welcoming to immigrants as we are now, but what's past is prologue. that difficult history has informed us each step of the way since. we learned our lesson the hard way. we know that tearing apart honest, hard-working families is not the answer. separating mothers from their children is no solution to get doesn't make us safer. it doesn't bring back jobs. it doesn't solve our economic challenges. in fact, i would argue it does quite the opposite. it undermines our prosperity and makes us less safe, because it hurts the trust that law enforcement has worked so hard to build with immigrant communities throughout the country. that difficult chapter in our history continues to reverberate today. the california republican party still has not recovered from the backlash even after more than 20 years from proposition 187. in fact, it was actually in response to proposition 187 and the at the immigrant animus wave in the '90s that i first became politically active. that was a turning point for me personally, just as it was for the state of california. i believe california is a bellwether for the nation on this issue. of course, this president brought back those painful memories and exploited deep-seated tensions to win his office. since taking office we've seen some of his more detestable campaign rhetoric is put into action. from the muslim ban the threats to define sanctuary cities, and most recently decision to end daca. we knew we had to be decisive. so i took the extraordinary position, the step of actually hiring outside counsel. that outside counsel is a former attorney general of the united states, the head of the department of justice eric holder, to help inform and advise the legislature on this issue as well as many other issues. and we set to work building a wall of resistance to the hateful, destructive, and shortsighted agenda currently prevailing here in washington. we of course have built -- excuse me. we of course have filed a number of lawsuits in consultation with mr. holder as well as her state attorney general, javier fassero. we defended actions for those immigrants residing in the state of california to ensure due process for all. we passed my bill, senate bill 54, the california california values act, also known as the sanctuary state bill to ensure that california state or local law enforcement agencies focus solely on their duty to protect and serve our communities, all opportunities regardless of who you are and where you come from, that you are your skin, your native language, regardless of you love. school police as well as security departments from using resources, local tax dollars and state tax dollars to enforce federal immigration laws. it also create safe zones at our schools at our hospitals, at our churches, and our courthouses and other sensitive locations. so far immigrant communities can live their lives and conduct important business free of fear. it is been called the sanctuary state law, but i want to be very clear on the record because i think that is a false characterization. it's a misnomer. there is a such thing as a sanctuary city or sanctuary state. there's a such thing as a false invisible wall. if you get right behind it, somehow someway you will be free from i.c.e. deportation or detention. the reality is it's not lost me that the federal government has exclusive jurisdiction over federal immigration law. they have the right, the legal right to enforce federal immigration laws that are currently on the books. but it doesn't mean local governments or state governments have to be an extension or a cog in the trunk deportation machine. does mean a local resident throughout the nation have to be double taxed him double taxed is that local tax dollars that should be utilized for local police to protect and serve all communities are now being utilized to be an extension of the federal immigration authorities. we should not be double taxed and we should not have our local police officers abandon their responsibilities, their duties. to help set up a perimeter around say an elementary school waiting for mothers to pick up their children after school. that's not who we are as a great state. does that who we are as a great country. what this measurably does is prevent the type of situation you had in arizona with a disgrace sheriff joe arpaio. prevents law enforcement from arresting any person for civil immigration violation. it limits cooperation the i.c.e. to only those cases involving violent felony crimes. it ensures our public safety officers and resources are not commandeered by the federal government for the purpose of mass deportation. this was a very hard-fought compromise with our governor, governor brown, and the law enforcement community. it's not as expensive as it originally was, but he do think the final product strikes the critical balance between public safety and protecting our values as a state that welcomes immigrant communities. we also secured $30 million for legal assistance for daca students in california. i'm under no illusions that the steps alone are enough to solve our immigration challenges. clearly there should be sensible limits on immigration that is the responsibility of the federal government to set those limits. we can all agree we need comprehensive immigration reform. claire, predictable, and fair guidelines which secures a party for national security reasons and provides a pathway to legal residency and citizenship for undocumented community throughout the great country. but we have a problem. the situation is we have a congress who have abdicated their responsibility to do their job, to roll up their sleeves and actually get a comprehensive immigration reform package across the desk to the president. but let me be very clear. if the new president wants to wage a campaign of fear against innocent families, he can count us out. we will not lift a single finger or spend a single cent. we will not allow one election to reverse generations of progress at the height of our historic diversity, our scientific advancement, are economic output and our sense of global responsibility. we will continue to use every tool at our disposal to protect all california until congress does. the state of california today is the sixth largest economy in the entire world. we are the epicenter of innovation and inclusivity. we didn't get there by embracing alternative facts or pseudoscientific nonsense. this state, the great state of california, we made policy based on facts as well as science. we don't govern by gimmick because you cannot run a global economy by stoking hatred as well as the vision. the great state of california is a beautiful mosaic. it's an amazing tapestry, so many different views with your ancestry originates from scotland, united kingdom, ireland or whether it's from mexico central america, or russia or china, vietnam or south korea, or elsewhere. it's a state of inclusivity and diversity, and that is the key to our success, being the sixth largest economy in the world to put this in context that are only five larger economies in the world, united states a as a whole in the aggregate, china, japan, and good to depend on the fluctuation of the sterling, the pound, the united kingdom, and then it is your great state, the state of california. if you remotely interested in rounding out the top ten, we have at number seven, we have france, we have brazil, we have a nation that's been in the news quite a bit and will be so for the foreseeable future, we have russia and then we have italy pics of california's economy is larger than that of vladimir putin's russia, to put this in context. this is what it means for california to embrace people from all over the world who want to come to our country, want to come to our state, want to work hard, who want to give their children a better future, who respect our laws, paid her taxes, and pledge their allegiance to the red, white and blue. that's why we have a president who says we have 11 billion-13 million undocumented immigrants who are criminal felons, we know that to be an alternative fact because we know that to be not accurate. in fact, it's a narrative that is steve bannon, steve miller with chris kobach and opposite the attorney general of the united states mr. jeff sessions has perpetuated for a very, very long time. but this friend are economic prosperity as the state t. our values, our progressive values as well as our people. now, this country is greater than any one man or party. i want to finish by saying the following. to all the dreamers who have been betrayed by this president, let me end by saying to those dreamers who have been bullied, who have been demeaned, who been downsized or told that their dispensable, just because they are different, whether that came from a peer or a president, no one thing -- america's biggest and one man or one party. and america will always be an exceptional example where you can be whoever you are and you can dream of being whoever you want to be. with that i want to thank you very much. thank you very much. [applause] [inaudible] >> thank you all very much for joining us to have this conversation. my name is tom jawetz, vice president of immigration policy at the center for american progress. you guys can sit probably wherever you want. joining me on the stage along with senator de leon, and at the input of time for a question. to my left is monica fuentes, director of the washington office for welcoming america with whom we have partnered to bring to you this event. then we have liz cedillo-pereira, the first direct of the office of welcoming communities and immigrant affairs for the sake of dallas, texas, and at the end of the panel we have marked processor, the longtime police chief of public safety director for storm lake, iowa. .. hopefully it will be an opportunity to kick off a larger discussion. i want to start off with the question followed up on your remarks. this was a very impactful legislative session. the values act that just got passed by the legislature last week was the process of a lot of negotiation. thinking through the moment we are in and what states are standing up to do, i want to talk about the lessons learned that you could drop on for future reference in your state or individuals in other states pursuing similar measures, understanding that the dynamics are different everywhere in the country from other things in your own process you can learn from for the future. >> for the lessons, you do have to build a sizable coalition and not just immigrant rights advocates or those in the legal space bar clergy, faith of all denominations, not just cap like but islamic community as well as the jewish community, the christian faith, labor unions and folks in the health and education sector. you need folks were chancellors of universities and college systems. you have to amplify the coalition. it have to be multifaceted. you also have to engage law-enforcement and what hopefully will be a very active engagement. police chiefs tend to be more methodical, they tend to be more thoughtful, solutions oriented individuals. their other limits within the law-enforcement community that are more highly politicized and highly charged with the rhetoric with jeff sessions. i say so because they are elected, not selected by mayors or accountable to police commission or city council or city manager. your own colleagues and peers within your own party and legislative branch, you have to engage them constructively in bringing them along. this has become the modern 2.0 version of willie horton, how they have ostracized and used immigrants, any unfortunate tragic crime and have made them narrative in such that this is all that immigrants do whether it's here or texas or iowa or here in washington. you have to engage and be respectful. you won't agree with everything, there will be tough negotiation negotiations. the things i learned, one thing i learned, very quickly is the coalition between the feds, state and local governments on human trafficking, drug cartels as well as terrorist cells. you didn't want unintended consequence as long as it is not primarily for deportation purposes. things i learned, i said i listen to police chiefs and i didn't want this to be the unintended consequences. we have to change that because god for bid we don't want to prohibit collaboration, between the law-enforcement agencies if there was a terrorist cell in your own backyard. these are things i learned and i grew as a result. >> the question i was asking you was sort of similar. you heard the senators remarks about california, texas existed in a very different environment while it leaned in hard in this current environment to push for more protective policies of the state level. the leading the charge against the daca initiative. 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[inaudible] can you talk a bit about the current environment that were in, the national conversation but the state level as well, how are you working from the ground up and what lessons might you be able to draw upon for other cities that are trying to set up similar offices in similarly difficult environments. >> thank you for this very important and timely conversation. we appreciate being a part of it and welcome to america because they are a standout organization that provides technical and otherwise support for cities in melissa pawleys, states and regions were interested in delving into the space. it's not more, it's more than just word, it's deed and how do you develop that that programming around those deeds. welcoming america has been a great source of technical support and we look forward to working further with them and gateway for growth challenge, to look at our economy and how it changes and the labor force associated with so were looking forward to working further into that space, and really, it's something that germinated over a ten year period of time. i'm from dallas, born and raised and was part of the advocacy community for a number of years. was led by the national council of jewish women. in fact, ten years ago they went to the mayor and said we need an office of immigration affairs, let's do this, it's time to come together. we need to stand behind our immigrant brothers and sisters. it didn't happen in the time but the idea started germinating and everything has to come to fruition. recently, the mayor had a task force on poverty addressing issues. some of that had to do with how do we get around services that will lift people out of poverty through citizen workshops, esl. we have a large working poor population, how do you support that so they can move beyond existing and economic success. out of that recommendation, i think this office came, moving behind the idea to a goal and a new city manager who came on board, who came from a community where there was a welcoming office like this and our mayor and city council getting behind us and said let's be proactive. we recognize one in four of us. >> that is a very local, i think it's helpful, that's one of the themes of the conversation, how hyper local these conversations really are. looking at dallas, how do you think about approaching your work. >> you cannot operate in a state of fear. you have to operate in the state of what's large for our local community. how to get around these issues in spite of rhetoric that may prevail. it's working with our law enforcement and city infrastructure, libraries and court systems and how do we be more inclusive. how do we include people who are such an important part of our local economy. it's about recognizing those contributions, seeing it from a different lens. >> we do have law-enforcement on the panel and i appreciate you being here. one of the things we discussed was put together last week in which you described that those who have the smallest share of population tend to be the ones where you see the greatest support for the hardest positions on immigration. most of us think of large cities and population centers. i was wondering if you could talk through essentially what your experience has been with immigrants over the years. my understanding it's been a long process of immigrants coming into the city and coming into storm like iowa and how do they become integrated into the community and how that process has been questioned has it affected public safety at. >> thank you for the invitation. one might ask why someone of a community of 14000 people in northwest iowa would be sitting on this panel, answering that question. they may have a more hard-line view of the conversations and the debate. a goes to the point of its out of sight, not under radar, they have not experienced it. storm relates experience is that a public school system about 82% non- caucasian with 19 languages spoken in the classroom. we are not attached to any urban area. we sit in the corner of northwest iowa, about 14000 and are dealt genital english classes have 30 represented. the conversations on immigration shifting demographics, it's about who we are as a community and what we have become. in the midwest, and rural america in rural iowa, we see communities with empty homes, closing apartment complexes, consolidating school districts. in storm like we have newer schools that are overflowing. we have a housing crunch and the need for more housing because our manufacturers want to expand and we just don't have the homes in the apartments to put people because the community wants to continue to grow. in my opinion is the police chief, that's a better opinion to have been losing population, but all of that growth we've expensed over a period of three plus decades has been immigrant growth. it has been a complete change and shift in the demographics of our community. no matter what the challenges have been, our number one challenge has not been crying. it's been language. the ability to communicate with people and have the resources to learn their languages and provide services to folks who we may not have the of corporate interpreters or translators for. have we seen an increase in crime in our community and this time? yes, not because of a change in demographics but the community has grown. we have a larger population. we are one of the few agencies in iowa that report out our crime stats by ethnicity and gender and we have never, in my tenure of approaching 30 years as of the chief, we have never had a year where there was disproportionate representation by any particular ethnic group in crime. it's pretty much rule of thumb. it doesn't matter what ethnic group you are. there is 1% of people who require you to have a police department and the rest of the folks are good hard-working people. i think that's the same in the city. they brought us growth and youth and vibrance. we are very proud of the community whether the change on the impact of refugee or changing the docket program, or whatever that scenario might be, it has a huge impact on the citizens of our community and they are concerned about it. when your citizens are concerned, that impacts how they feel it works. that impacts their health. that impacts the children in the schools. our schools administrators. it's been a great plus for our city. >> it's amazing to hear what's happening in storm like iowa and that has been over a period of years. for you are now is very helpful but wait how you got there could be an lightning as well. what has that process been like over the past 30 years. you mentioned in previous conversation is not always easy, but what is that process like and how have you gotten to where you are today. what are helpful programs or projects or initiative within government or nonprofit driven that has helped to ease that transition. >> it on the we have enough time to adequately answer that, but it has been a learning process and a learning curve with successes and failures. i will give you a couple examples i have spanned 30 years that i've shared with other groups. in northwest iowa, one of the big social events were potluck dinners, whether they were at church or in your community or things like that. as we started to experience diversity, we created a diversity tax force that say how are we going to adapt to the changing community and better serve the people. one note i would tell you about our diversity task force is it was all white. that was a learning experience. we were trying to make decisions and move forward for folks who were white and spoke, they came from all over the world. we started having a monthly dinner and bring our new friends in our community and in many cases they did not attend. through conversations, we learned that culturally, depending on what part of the world you come from, it's not normal to throw party and asked the guests to bring the meat. it was the little baby steps that you might imagine in a small community that we learned from. from a law-enforcement standpoint we had some criminal activity and we required an ethiopian interpreter and we had an ethiopian interpreter that assisted our department but he was a witness to the incident and so we really couldn't use them for the purposes of dealing with the investigation. our supervisor couldn't find an ethiopian interpreter in storm like iowa. he called the somalian interpreter. completely done for the right reason but it was a learning curve and that wasn't a very good decision. we've had these types of incidents and i could share a lot of learning learning, but we weren't afraid to learn and we weren't afraid to learn by our mistakes and do better the next time. the next and most important thing we learned is that are many different citizens don't do business like born and raised, caucasian citizens do in the united states. we set up block by block in the summertime and roll in with police and other. we have pens and pencils and candy to hang out because if we find if we can get the kids their parents will follow. we just want to create a relationship. in the first few years, folks looked at us like we were nuts but now they're coming out and sharing their concerns in the community and things like that. they're using focus groups and there's more of a comfort level there in working with our different ethnic groups. there is just one lesson after another and we continue to modify those types of things. those are just a couple examples we've learned over a period of decades in that small community of dealing with an international clientele and international neighbors. >> that's really helpful to hear. monica, you deal with this kind of technical assistance with nonprofit organizations, community members, to build refugees. i also wondered how you are all approaching your work in this current environment. >> thank you. it's so great to be with the wonderful panel. the police chief stole all my talking points in terms of how he did his work, he's trying to come to terms with the fact that demographics are changing. we've been around since about 2009. we were founded after our executive director did some organizing from texas. back in 2006, texas, tennessee was debating was passing in english only ill. mosques were being burned to the ground, kids were being bullied in school. what are executive director realized that no one was really having conversations with people about the fact that demographics were changing really quickly and it might not be comfortable. things look differently than you are used too. through that we came up with a three-pronged approach in dealing with these issues. we have to find ways to work together. when your neighborhood looks different, you have to provide the opportunity for folks to get to know each other and realize that maybe we are more alike than we are different and we have things in common in fostering ways to do that. it took a communications campaign, talking about the values of the community and how you tie those values to how you treat your neighbor. , they want to work to change the tone of the community. what happened is that the bill failed. a few years later the national chamber of commerce was vibrant in a way that i had never before, and in part was due to the fact that they were welcoming community that was celebrating their diversity and making it a place that people wanted to bring their talent to nashville. welcome america came to be really taking those lessons from a place like nashville tennesse tennessee, looking at things like finding ways for people to build bridges, working with local leaders and you can make those changes and make a place for immigrants and refugees. our theory of change is, if we really want immigrants and refugees to thrive, you have to engage the people who already live there. whether that's the long-term leaders are business leaders, educators, if we really want socially cohesive and economically vibrant places, it doesn't happen overnight. it is going to in take that engagement of everyone there. we work with about 200 different communities across the country, 100 local governments from places as diverse as dallas texas to san jose california, l.a., places in iowa, you just mentioned des moines earlier, we were talking about dayton ohio which is our first welcoming, fargo north dakota, the reason i mention all these places is because what we have seen is this trend of local leaders, and will federal immigration reform is a federal issue, integration doesn't have to be. finding ways to better incorporate everyone in your community is something that local leaders can do and local leaders are doing. as liz was mentioning, they just open up an office. i think there's so much, you don't even know where to start. this is all part of making your community a place where everyone belongs. it should be so critical to the mission of our organization because it goes back to the idea of encouraging people to welcome their neighbors. soccer festivals have been really popular events, events and schools, a business corner event going on in charlotte and we are so excited because this is the six-year were doing your 730 events going on across campus. despite the negative rhetoric we are hearing at the national level, at the local level there is a different story. people want to roll up their sleeves and welcome their neighbor. >> and setting up your new office, how do you go about that process making sure what the greatest needs are and how, with hurricane harvey, i know dallas wasn't directly affected by the storm but how do you approach the. >> we focus on priorities. we have five. that's for technical assistance become so important. economic opportunity, safe and connected communities, all of these are intertwined. at any juncture we are looking at city services and you can see it from a point of how do we make this more inclusive so everyone in our community feels like they have skin in the game. that's what our goal is, to set up such that we are focusing on priorities, at the same time dealing with external forces that require us to shift and pivot. that's sort of the game. that's the whole point to be available to her residence, make sure that they feel welcome and to expand relationships so they become specifically engaged. we often hear this significant group doesn't vote or this group doesn't participate. maybe you have to rethink the way you're doing your own. that's why were doing this work. as an example, we did receive many evacuees from houston southeast texas area and automatically, our office and emergency management shifts into emergency mode for shelters. they welcomed me into their operations. it was a little bit different than the katrina situation. houston is the number one population and has the greatest number. dallas is only second to houston in that regard. it's working with your first responders, it's working with your public safety in your local consulate and they were able to provide emergency assistance. we were the there all day making sure we were there to help people. that's just one example. >> if i could add something to that, i think she touched on a couple important points. one is this idea of immigrant affairs, part of their jobs is to work with agencies across city government because if we are not changing how we are delivering services, we are not doing our job. in terms of making sure your front-line workers have some kind of language capability, i lived in atlanta for a couple years working for the mayor there, building his initiative, and i remember going to 311 and learning they had maybe three phone calls in spanish. week. that wasn't reflected of the population which meant we were doing our job to make that community aware that there was a way of getting services. i think the second point you brought up, and again, the senator mentioned this, the building of coalitions. if you're thinking of creating an inclusive community, and needs to be something everyone buys into or else it's not going to work. one of the best practices we encourage. really looking at some of the answers of economic empowerment, civic engagement , it's really that by and that will propel a community forward and have folks thinking about where you want to be 20 years from now. >> with the effort to work with local law-enforcement. there is thi press conference talking to the importance of legislation. we are seeing a really rapid increase in the collateral, people who don't have criminal convictions, the importance of the california values act, in that environment when you potentially have another 800,000 individuals who might need assistance and others who are here with temporary protective status, many have been here for 20 years with lawful status, working who could lose their protection. how do you think about those coalitions and the importance of the values act in that environment, not just now but two or three or four months from now. >> let me put this in context with the values act and let me see if i can successfully complete the circle. you mentioned the dreamers and those who have been in this country for a very long time who have yet to normalize their status. when i introduced the bill, i had the former attorney general review it with a team of lawyers from the department of justice. when i introduced it i felt it was very comfortable that it can hold constitutional muster. when they litigate, i'm sure they will litigate, i feel comfortable in a court of law. as we move forward through the appeals process, i don't know what the makeup will be or what the end goal or the end decision will be, but we hope it will be very constitutional. engaging with local law-enforcement, their mindset is solutions oriented rather than political resolve, amplifying, polarizing the situation even more so. working with charlie beck in los angeles and up in new york city, we felt like we had a strong legitimate case to present to the people of california and we felt it was important to protect the 98% of immigrants were hard-working individuals who contribute greatly to our economy and culture and community and if in fact trump attempts to deputize that you will be able to do so. you may be able to do so in other states but not in the city of california. i want to give a lot of props to dallas and the local leadership in houston and san antonio and austin because you're right, the state leadership in texas, greg abbott and the attorney general have really, my counterpart, my. and the leader of the senate who i believe is the chief architect was one of the biggest authors worked diametrically in opposing universes, if you will and really move forward in measures that are really mean-spirited and go out of the way to hurt people. the we view this as a threat because it harms our economic prosperity as a state. people were been here and have yet to legalize their status, the full circle is where were at today which is washington d.c. washington is a source of the problem. they are the origins of the dysfunction that is being manifested in local cities and states and counties throughout the country. they have not been able to get their act together and washington d.c. and move forward commonsense, sensible measures to deal with this issue. your many states and counties and cities throughout the country moving forward with this quilt, this past work of policy. some are very come in and mean-spirited like the state governor of texas, and other states and some very progressive folks like in dallas and houston in san antonio and washington d.c. atlanta and virtually every city and county in california, oregon washington , hawaii, i was in hawaii couple weeks ago and i met with the governor and two u.s. senators and the attorney general. i remember given a speech and way and said you are an incredible state. you are a state that our punching way over your weight. you probably have no more muslims that i can count on two hands, but you are true americans because you believe everyone should have an opportunity to succeed. this is what america is all about. besides that they were the first date forward, out there to sue the trump administration speaks volumes to the resiliency of even small states like hawaii who is really standing up for immigrants and understand and recognize that they contribute greatly to our economic prosperity. the state of our iowa. my brother-in-law, who is my ex- brother-in-law who used to work in a slaughterhouse in iowa. he said it was very cold there. you have cities and counties that are economically depressed because of demographics and age. now you have folks who have revitalized the small towns and counties. unfortunately some view it as a threat, but with munication in education and bonding together, we can overcome that. the one thing is this. your politicians who walk into anywhere, even california, texas, midwest, south eastern cities and states. to numb the pain where there was opiate addiction or whatever it was. the politician walks in and smells the anxiety and fear. instead of moving forward a solution to help improve for all individuals and provide for economic growth, what they do is they pit one group against another group and say you are economically dispersed and despondent because of those individuals who look different, who speak different, who come from a different place. that's what's tearing at the fabric of who we are is a great nation. i would say irregardless, this is still the greatest country on earth. we have major challenges politically to make sure that we respect inclusivity inclusivity, that we don't ban it or deported or wallet off because that's who we are as a great nation. it is these local leaders at the local level and police chiefs who are forward thinking who see the value and benefit, these are the great stories of this great country irregardless of who occupies the white house. in spite of what's happening, and very bullish. it goes back to congress over there and they've yet to get their act together because of they normalize the staff status and we wouldn't have these battles happening all of the country. >> one thing that the senator referred to earlier was the effort to bully state and local law-enforcement into becoming more wrapped up in federal immigration enforcement. i was really struck that you mentioned you had conversations that sb 54 didn't interfere with the duty to cooperate with counterterrorism measures. the executive orders that were initially signed, specifically jeopardize precisely that kind of federal cooperation that decided to adopt policy that would be in furtherance of their mission. just thinking about the way in which your community interacts, i think about the role of the federal government can play in helping you have a healthy relationship or complicating that relationship. how do you think about what's going on right now. >> it gets sad, at a state level and national level that we are legislating or attempting to legislate how local law enforcement should interact with its public. i think our communities, law-enforcement is local, no matter how you want to define it. our communities and our city councils and our county board of supervisors dictate and create a philosophy of how they want their local law enforcement to operate and most of it is based on the needs of the people in that particular jurisdiction. it is sad that there are other entities trying to come in, and in my opinion impact and interfere with local control, of local elected officials and police chiefs and sheriff's on how we administer and interact with people we serve. the reality is, there is also a contradiction coming in our country. true community policing, the law-enforcement officer taking ownership in the public that he or she serves and that public taking ownership, it's all about relationships. creating those relationships in working together to create a safe environment in the cities and counties we work in. the best way to enhance that and improve that and perfect that is to have good relationships with the people you serve. that goes to knowing your publics and creating those relationships, and if you have folks out there who don't trust the police, who don't understand the police and vice versa that affects the efforts of the safety and security. on a federal level, we have seen, for a variety of reasons, some are around the issue of police use of force, we've seen communities rise up and demonstrate real friction and every expert, every pendant, every individual has weighed in on that and said one of the reasons, or common denominator is that perhaps local law enforcement has not created relationships and had good communications. on one hand you have a national debate, in some cases where law-enforcement needs to do better. i'm a believer in this, in creating relationships with the people they serve. on the other side, we have a national debate on pushing people into the shadow and pushing people away from law-enforcement and impacting the ability to create those relationships. what's it going to be. do we want to have safe communities and everybody invested, if that's the case we need to move toward good immigration reform. we need to have anybody and everybody who comes to your community and mine who comes there to work live and play, whatever that may be, feel comfortable at their local law enforcement, that we are there to serve them, and that's not the case primarily because whether it's the dhaka debate or immigration as a whole, and so for that reason, there is just the conflict in its rubbing, coming from a national perspective. from a national perspective, i am employed to serve anybody and everybody who comes to my community. i don't care who they are or where they're from. i don't believe local law enforcement should be involved in immigration enforcement, and i am ultimately, publicly told our community that and my mayor and my city council have never told me not to say that. >> i think that's really helpful. one thing i want to build off right there at the very end, by october 5 any dr. who is expiring by march has to have the renewal application in. there are $3 million being dedicated to help provide funding for counsel and renewal applications. that is one very urgent time coming up. by december there will be a building campaign without large-scale coalition that you are describing, to help push for congress to step in and provide a permanent solution. i'm curious to hear how you've been engaging in the conversation, whether it's through talking to your local communities or anything of the sort. >> is it a ticking time bomb? or is it an opportunity? i've had the opportunity to speak on behalf of daca on behalf of our federal representatives on both sides of the aisle and i have a sense that nobody wants to punish people who are here who are here for no reason of their own. if we approach it and our elected officials approach it as a ticking time bomb, it will be a ticking time bomb. if they approach it as an opportunity with a six-month window to move forward and help this group of people that we are talking about, i think it's an opportunity. the issue is, as it always is, there has to be compromised. folks have to get out of their comfort zone and go to an area where they may not be comfortable to create a compromise that takes care of these children and young adults. and so, i prefer to approach it from a glass full. >> this is a. political decision. they did not want to defend this litigation through the appellate process. they do not want to compromise in any way form or shape. this was unnecessary. the question is what happens between now. does the president want both ways? he wants to eliminate it and then punted over to congress saying publicly, it's on you. if you want to take care of it, take care of it and take care of it right now. i haven't seen that congress either paul ryan or mitch mcconnell able to serve any complex policy measures to date. i oppose the evisceration of the a c a. they have control and have not been able to repeal. we can go through a whole laundry list. the question of capacity, as polarizing as this issue is, how the freedom caucus within the congress will allow paul ryan to move forward on any type of dea deal, i don't have that confidence, and also, the chief is right with regard to compromising, you do have to compromise. you don't want to find yourself in a situation where you negotiate against yourself, but you don't want to negotiate against yourself and find a temporary compromise. you won't find a permanent compromise. if you find a temporary compromise, the cost is, you just had the parents removed from the country. now the young men and women are without parents and their moral support system structure has been completely eviscerated. i have said from day one this was a president you cannot negotiate with because he will betray you in a heartbeat. it didn't take much to see how we treated republicans during the course of the presidential primary. there's nothing worse than a sore loser and a sore winner. when you saw the way he treated republican folks, that he, but he conquest and, defeated, that gave you an insight into psychology. they have done more in the past 50 years to tear at the fabric of who we are as a great countr country. i'm not as bullish that they don't have the desire or the capability to accomplish something, because this is common sense. this is not difficult. a major accomplishment in washington is that ceiling. that is the baseline of a major accomplishment and it's very disappointing. this is not complex. it should be done easily. i don't think this administration. i don't think they have the desire or the capacity. >> i'll just say that it's very important to our state and local economy. [inaudible] by bilingual teachers, engineers, every career they have gone into. while i was a young attorney when it was first introduced, these are no longer children. they are professionals. they are fighting the good fight locally and national and we have a vibrant youth leadership. it's about what the senator said earlier, building the coalitions that we need to form a coalition because it's not only a moral imperative but it's an economic imperative for our community. that's where we are. >> to her point, dreamers are such a vital part and we are trying to figure out how that supports the local leadership. but i think the information you have put out has been critical particularly the places and the rust belt that having dhaka recipients is critical to having a population. keeping them is really in the best interest of the community in general. >> we are seeing it from how we can support getting that message out. the best for this are really the people on the ground. >> i want to open up and take some questions from the audience. please keep your ca questions concise and start off with your name and affiliation. >> thank you for this wonderful presentation. the thing i'm concerned of is federalism in which no one uttered. suppose the courts rule that those states that want to grant citizenship to dhaka and refuse to let local law enforcement be deputized by the justice department has the right to do so and those states that would deny citizenship for dhaka and want have no objection to their local law-enforcement essentially get the right to do so and see what happens. local along forstmann should never be deputized and dhaka. suppose supreme court rules on this approach. i'm not an expert when it comes to federalism. i know it was used quite successfully on the behalf of texas. [inaudible] it's the double edge sword. if that were to come to fruition at the u.s. supreme court level, those states that respect and believe that by including hard-working immigrants who obey laws and our tax paying citizens, that we can move, confer the constitution. on the flipside, for those states who may not be as forward thinking or moving forward to come in measures, it's a very good question. i think it's happening already as we speak. as it manifests in different ways throughout the country, i think this is a reflection of the values of politicians on the spectrum, whether it's on the left or the right. i want to give credit to a handful of republicans in both chambers who were very supportive vocally for dhaka, but the very hard extreme right have influenced it and commandeered and hijacked the policy debates that have made others cower if you will in fear of being ostracized by the leadership and those who have the financial resources. i don't know necessarily if that will ever come to fruition, but it's a legitimate question. thank you very much. i would kind of like to challenge the senator's statement that washington is the problem. i don't disagree with that except that it's fed by apathy of the voters in the various states. either congressman or senator believe that the people who didn't vote for him or her don't matter because after the elections, they go away. they are silent. senators and congressmen are more worried about the kuck brothers than they are the constituents. we saw people who didn't vote for dana rohrbach tried to get him to a town hall meeting. i want you to comment on the fact that is in it in bolden by essentially the apathy of the various peoples. >> the folks who are apathetic to a number of issues, whether it's the environment or climate change or the issue of immigration, i do believe it's incumbent on the policymakers on both sides of the aisle to move forward. they should be driven by the poll numbers or driven by constituent cap calls or visits to townhall. this has been a lingering issue for decades. out of fairness, there is blame to be spread across the board, without question. i recognize with the dreamers and dhaka under president obama, through an executive order authorized it. it was the dreamers themselves at a grassroots movement who really moved this up the chain. i don't think apathy, i just don't believe it's a justification to do the right thing. we see an issue with quantitative research, prior to the election of president trump, even among republicans they say we agree, bring folks out from the shadows, their law-abiding taxpaying residents. they been here for decades, let's normalize them and get it over with because they're here and they're not going anywhere else. now we have a trump administration who highly politicizes the situation to further divide it as if we deport and separate mothers from their children, that that would be our economic ill that somehow the air will get cleaner and the water will be safer to drink and they will be economic prosperity from the middle middle west to the west felt in california and elsewhere. it is a short term victory. it comes at a very high cost. i would say to my friends in the gop at the national level, it doesn't end well. in the long run, it's not going to end well for you. you will cash in with a short-term victories but they will be at a very high cost. i don't say this as a partisan or as a democrat, i say this objectively. i witnessed what happened in california and in california we sent ronald reagan, a republican to be president of the united states. we sent richard nixon to become president of the united states. we have had pete wilson and many others, republicans. that has changed. the weather was proposition 187. that change the whole dynamic completely. people were so put off, so offended that you would go out of your way to provide simplistic solutions to very complex issues and not be up front with the people. we need real economic solutions to deal with economic pain that many communities where folks need help, but not to pit one against the other because that won't solve any of our problems. that was a long winded answer. i apologize. i don't think apathy or lack thereof should be the driver to get the job done. if you want to follow along "after words" i would consider a discussion and archived this. thank you very much for coming. 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