Cu cu culmination his his hard work. That is true. You dont advance your cause by claiming personal credit. Let me give you another example of how a president s legacy can be totally different from what we think at the time. Harry truman to be bipartisan here, take a democrat, went out of office with the lowest poll ratings in history till that time. 2530 years later we had vietnam, watergate, and we looked back at truman and saw the real deal an authentic leader who got all of the big things right and the Little Things wrong. We forget the hawaiian sports shirts and stuff. That became endearing. Harry truman once said i wonder how far moses had gotten if he stopped to take a poll in the middle of the desert. Truman became a model of a divisive leader who took big decisions, who took responsibility, and by and large history has been much kinder to him than historians were at the time. In terms of obama, we said he wanted to be a transformitiative president but we will not know for 1015 years how transforming he was. It matters who was elected in 2016. If it is someone who carries on the obama programs that is web factor they will take into account. Look at the news from vie viana and the talks. They are saying it could go either way. If kerry manages to negotiate a deal that congress and the country with live with and forestalls the iranians from get getting a nuclear bomb that has significance in the middle east and beyond. If he fails, um toit will be assessed against him. We are talking about the legacy of president obama. You can call the democrats, republican or independents line. In that week of the Supreme Court decisions, the passing of the trade bill the president spoke at the funeral for reverend clemente and the headline from the new york time is a eugy that found its place in history. None of us can expect a transformation in Race Relations overnight. Every time Something Like this happens everybody says we have to have a conversation about race. We talk a lot about race. There is no short cut. We dont need more talk. [applause] [applause]er none of us should believe a handful of gun Safety Measures will stop tragedies. People of goodwill will continue to debate the policies as the government requires us. There are good people on both sudes of these debates. Whatever solutions we find will necessarily be incomplete. But it would be a betrayal of everything reverend pickney stood for, i believe, if we allowed ourselves to slip into a comfortable silence again. [applause] once the eulogy has been delivered and once the tv cameras move on to go back to business as usual is what we so often do. To avoid uncomfortable truths about the prejudice that still infects our society. The symbolic gestures without following up with change. That is how we lose our way again. Richard norton smith, how will have a speech like that or could a speech like that affect the legacy of president obama . There is no doubt that memorable president ial speeches are part of our collective poplar and scholarly memory. We still quote fdr on the only thing we have to fear is fear itself or Ronald Reagan with the tear down this wall quote. The difference is those were scripted. They were the results of events that could have been planned for. One of the facts that people dont often stop to think about is president s get assessed less for standing in the bully pulpit and announcing the National Agenda and persuading congress and the country this is what we ought to do. That is part of the job. But it is how they react to the unexpected and the unpredictable. And the events in charleston were a classic example. But that speech lets remember that speech impressive as it was, and i think as memorable as it will prove to be, did not exist in a vacuum. America was shocked by what happened in the Emanuel Ame Church that night. But two days later i dont think anyone was prepared for the emotions we would get from listening to all of the family members from the victims who were dealing with lynching promotions and who yet one after another testifying to their faith and their fortitude managed in their own way to tell the alleged assailiant killer they forgave him. It didnt matter what your politics, race where you were from americans looked in the mirror and said could i have done that . And i suspect most of us would say no we couldnt. You cannot take a poll on that. But it is within the climate and context and not the Political Climate but the moral climate that was created by those people that the president spoke in charleston. It is the interaction between the two that will be weighed for decades to come. The president was tweeted asked about his best week and in response said my best week i will tell you is marrying michele, and my daughters being born. Lets get to calls for Richard Norton smith. Susan on the independence line. Caller caller can you hear we me . I am a here fan of mr. Smith. I am glad for your presence today. I want to acknowledge what you said about eisenhower and i read a book and it changed how i felt about the man. At first i thought he did nothing to stand up to senator mccarthy but i learned for his quite dignity and behind the scenes he did a lot to combat and really ultimately insure senator mccarthys demise. Good afternoon, everybody. I hope everyone had a wonderful Holiday Weekend especially the men and women in uniform. This fourth of july we were honored to once again welcome some of our incredible troops and our families to share fourth of july and fireworks at the whitehouse and another chance for us on behalf of the American People to express gratitude for their service around the world every day. That includes the work that brings me here today. Our mission to degrade and ultimately destroy the terrorist group isil. There is a cause to the coalition that united countries across the globe. Some 60 nations including arab partners. Our strategy against isil is harnessing all elements of American Power across the Government Military absence s diplomatic economic, development, and most importantly the power of our values. Last month i ordered additional actions in support of our strategy. I just met with my National Security team as a part of regularly assessing our efforts and what is working and what could be better. Secretary carter and chairman dempsey i want to thank you you and your team for welcoming us including general austin who is leading the military campaign. I want to summarize briefly where we stand. I want to say again this is not going to be quick. This is a longterm campaign. Isil is nimble and in urban areas in syria and iraq it is dug in among innocent civilian populations. It will take time to root them out and doing so must be the job of local forces on the ground with training and air support and coalition. As with any military effort there is periods of progress and setbacks as we saw with isis gain in iraq and ramadi and central and southern syria. It is important to recognize the progress that has been made as well. Our coalition hit isis with more than 5,000 airstrikes and we have taken out thousands of tanks, vehicles bomb factories and training camps. We have eliminated thousands of fighters including senior isis commanders. We have seen when we have an effective partner on the ground isis can be pushed back. In iraq isil lost at the mosul dam and lost repeatedly across other provinces. They have lost more than a quarter of the populated area it had seized in iraq. In syria, isis lost in kobani and Northern Syria denying isil a vital road to their basef of operations in syria. Isil is surrounded by countries and communities committed to its destruction. It has no air force. Our coalition owns the skies. Isil is backed by no nations and relies on fear. It alienates those under its fear and creates new enemies. We are proving they will and can be defeated. We are intensifying our efforts against the base in syria and our airstrikes continue to target the oil and gas facilities that fund their operation. We are going after the leadership and infrastructure in syria, the heart of isil that is pumping funds and propaganda to people around the world. Partnering with other countries, sharing more information, strengthening laws and Border Security allows us to extend foreign fighters to syria as well as iraq and stem the flow of those fighters back into our countries. It is a challenge and all nations need to do more but we are seeing progress. We will continue to crackdown an isils illis licit fighting around the world. We need to confirm the position to our counterterrorism efforts. His nomination has been languished on the hill and we need the senate to confirm him as soon as possible. We are wrapping up training and support of local forces fighting isil on the ground. This project was moving too slowly but with the additional steps i ordered last month we are stepping it up. More sunni volunteers are coming forward. Some are being trained and they can be a new force against isump isump isis. We continue to develop anti tank weapons to the Iraq Security forces. I made it clear to my team that we will do more to train and equip the moderate opposition in syria. All of this said our strategy recognizes that no amount of military force will end the terror that is isil unless matched by a broader effort. Political and economic that addresses what allowed isis to gain traction. They filled a void and we have to make sure as we push them out that void is filled. As iraqi cities and towns are liberated we work with iraq and the United Nations to rebuild the Security Services and governance they need and we continue to support the efforts of their Prime Minister to forge an inclusive Iraqi Government uniting all people of iraq. And in syria, the only way the civil war ends in a way they can unite is a transition to a government that serves all syrians. I discussed this with partners at camp david and with our recent call with president putin. I made it clear the United States is working toward such a situation. Glimmering news is part of all players of the region it is important for us to Work Together as opposed to cross purposes to make sure that an inclusive Syrian Government exist. The focus of our discussion today was on iraq and syria isis poses a threat beyond the region obviously. We have seen deadly attacks in kuwait egypt and other places and we see a growing presence in libya and establishing foothold in north africa middle east, and southeast asia. I have called on the International Community to unite against the extremism in the fight the United States continues to lead. When necessary to prevent attacks against our nation, we will continue to partner with nations from afghanistan and nigeria to build up their Security Forces and work day and light with allies and partners to disrupt terrorist networks and stop attacks and smother cells of isis that may be developing in other parts of the world. This realso means remaining vigilant to prevent attacks against the homeland. The threat of violent extremism is not restricted to one community. Here in the United States we have seen all kinds of homegrown terrorism and even a single individual with access to dangerous weapon with inflict harm on americans. So our efforts to counter violent extremism must not cover any group because of their fath and background. That said we also have to acknowledge that isil has been affective at reaching out to and recruiting Vulnerable People around the world including here in the United States and they are targeting muslim communities around the world. Numerous individuals have been arrested across the country for planning attacks and planning to join isis. Two men opened fire in garland, texas in the name of isis. The threat of lone wolves or small cell terrorist is complex and harded to detect and harder to prevent. It is one of the most difficult challenges we face. And prei want to repeat the good news is that because of ex extraordinary efforts we are doing a better job at preventing large scale attacks on the homeland. But the small individual lone wolf attacks or small cells are hard harder to detect and that means we will have to pick up our game to prevent these attacks. It is also true why ultimately in order for us to defeat terrorist groups like isil and alqaeda it is going to require us to discredit their ideas. The twisted thinking that draws Vulnerable People into their ranks. I have said before and i know people agree, this isnt simply appear military effort. Ideaologies are not defeated with guns but with better ideas. The United States will continue to do our part by working with partners to counter isils hateful propaganda and confirm with words and deeds we will never be at fight with islam. But around the world we are also going to insist on partnering with muslim communities as they seek security and prosperity and dignity they deserve. We will expect those communities to step up in terms of pushing back as hards hard as they can along with people of good. This larger battle for hearts and minds is a generational issue. It will not be won or lost by the United States alone. It will be decided by the communities that countries like isis target. It will be up to scholars and clerics to keep rejecting warped understand understandings of iran and them to keep their Young Children from joining such groups. It will be up to governments to address the political and economic grievances that terrorist exploit. Nations that investigate in education and create opportunities for young people can be powerful antidotes to extremist. In closing, let me note this fourth of july we celebrated 239 years of american independence across more than two centuries we faced much bigger and formidable challenges than this. Civil war Great Depression communist behavior, terrible natural disasters, 9 11 and every time every generation our nation has risen to the moment. We dont just endure we emerge stronger than before and that is the mission here. It will be difficult, it will take time there will be setbacks as well as progress but as president and commander in chief i want to say to all of our men and women in uniform, we are serving in this operation, pilots and crews on the ground and personal at sea, our intelligence and diplomatic teams, i want to say thank you. We are proud of you. You have my total confidence you will succeed. To the American People, i want to say we will be vigilant and persevere and just like we have for centuries we will ultimately prevail. Thank you so much everybody. I will take a question go ahead. Every service man is listening to you today and wondering are you going to veto the defense bill that is going to pay me . What is your latest thinking on that . Your statements of policy that your advisors would threaten to veto would you veto . Or men and women are going to get paid. If you note, i have been president for six and a half years and we have had issues in the past but our Service Members have not missed a paycheck. But what is important in terms of the budget as well is making sure we are not short changing all of the elements of American Power that allow us to secure the nation and protect your power around the world. What we will not do is accept a budget that short changes our long term requirements for new technologies, readiness, we are not going to eat our seed corn by devoting too much money on things we dont need now and robbing ourselves of being prepared for future threats. I worked closely with the chairman and members of the joint chief of staff to develop a budget that is realistic and looks out into the future and says this is how we are going to handle any possible issues. We cannot do that with a budget that shortchanges vitctualt vital operations and funds things that are not necessary. The reason we have the best military in the world is first and foremost because we have the best troops but it is also because we have a Strong Economy, well educated population, and incredible Research Operation and universities that allow us to create new products that then can be translated into our military superiority around the world. We shortchange those and we are less secure. So the way we have to look at this budget is to recognize that we cannot think short term and part of our National Security is making sure we continue to have a Strong Economy and make the investments we need in things like education and research that are going to be vital for us to be successful longterm. Do you have plans to send anymore american troops oversea overseas . There are no current plans to do so. That is not something we currently discussed. I have always said i will do whatever it takes to protect the homeland. But one principle we agree on and i press folks hard in the conversations with my military advisors i want to get blunt and uncensored advice and in every conversation we had the strong agreement is that in order for us to succeed long term in the fight against isil we have to develop local Security Forces that can sustain progress. It is not enough for us to simply send an american troops to temporarily and this void is filled with extremist is going to be vital to make sure we secure forces with our partners and they cannot only succeed against isil but sustain in terms of security and in terms of governance. If we try to do everything ourselves, all across the middle east and all across north africa we will be playing whack a mole. And there will be a lot of unintended consequences that ultimately make us less secure. All right . We will hear more about isis strategy tomorrow with Ashton Carter and Martin Dempsey who you saw standing with the president testified before the Senate Armed Service committee and our live coverage gets underway at 9 30 a. M. Eastern. Congress returns from the fourth of july break tomorrow. The house plans to continue and finish up work on a bill to fund the interior department, epa, and other relatedagencies. Plus on the house agenda a bill making changes to the no child left behind federal education program. It starts at 2 eastern and we will have it live. The senate takes up a separate proposal giving states more authority to determine how much weight to give to standardized test scores and there is a vote for federal circuit judge later in the day. You can watch the live coverage here on cspan2. Our congressional profiles continue with virginias eighth district. He owns a number of Car Dealerships and served as u. S. Ambassador to switzerland. Congressman beyer won the election recently. Congressman beyer when and why did you begin a career in politics . I grew up in washington, d. C. And Northern Virginia so i think a have a terminal case of fever. My grandparents came here to work for franklin roosevelt. And growing up you read the Washington Post every day and you are sucked into the political life. I can remember the Democratic Convention in 1960 going down to the beach and the grandparents and parents were huddled around the radio listening to the convention. And i remember the kennedys race in 62 being a huge deal. The fantasy was i would grow up and find a way to get into Public Service. Your dad started a dealership and those who live in washington are familiar with john beyer volvo. Our 42nd anniversary in november and i celebrated by 41st anniversary in may. I came back to go to med school and my dad needed a summer driver for the parts truck and i said i will do it. By the end of the summer i fell in love with the business, got cold feet about medical school and asked to stay another couple weeks and it turned into year. Where did you go to college . Williams college. Small college. It was a great experience. I had a a lot of people asked how i made the transition from car service. And ysdzi said it is short staff. You walk up to people you dont know and have to be friendly open and connect and find something you have in common. A lot of it is sales. And i had the idea that sells is about meeting peoples needs. We have sold, you know 65,000 cars over the years and i dont ever remember pressuring a customer into buying a car. That is the worst way to do it. Saying what are your needs, what works for you and your family and how can we meet that need. And politics is the same thing. What is the crisis in your life, or the things that dont function in society and how do we move forward trying to listen carefully carefully. We are doing a telephone town hall at 6 00. We are always trying to find out what the big concerns are because then we can drop back and say lets do something meaningfu meaningful. What did your dad teach you about politics and business . He is 91 . 91 and a terrific guy. Still in great health. My dad and i worked side by side for 14 yearsx, six days a week, and we had a wonderful relationship. I dont think either of us every raised our voice to one another. He would tease me coming to work at 10 30 and he would say good afternoon, young man. He was a far better mechanic than i am. But i was much better at the business things. Better at the computer better that analysis and read all of the magazines in the car industry. But i never saw him do anything slightly dishonest or unethical. He never lied to a customer or employee. He was just a great role model in that sense. He was optimistic as well. He never saw a problem he could not solve. We was he was good were the people he represented. I was working hard and the employees loved and treated him like he was god. I said how do you get to do that . I realize it is the wonderful wisdom that who a leader is is more important than what he or she does. That projection of character. I think that is what i want to be as a political leader also. Yes, we want to get legislation done and cast votes. But i think it is important we try to you know the whole idea of letting your life be your argument and living a life that draws people to the idea of Public Service. And that this sounds but wanting to be a role model to others who look to their political leaders rather than the political Leader People look to with disappointment and dispairdis dispare. Oldest of six . Yes. We youngest of six . Yes. I lost my oldest sister which was a tragedy but the funeral was a celebration of life. My little brother joined the business in 1980 and i remember resenting him, this is dad and me get out of here i didnt say that but felt that. But it has been a great blessing. Mikes presence he is a very good car dealer, his presence gave me the latitude to be overseas ambassador and to go do the Public Service things i really wanted to do while he led the company through thick and thin. Lets talk about that. Because you served as the Lieutenant Governor of virginia. You ran for governor and lost. What did you learn from defeat . That it is survivabilityefbvabilitysurvivabilityefbvesurviveing survivable. I had friends everywhere. I felt the line that used to occur was you could wake me up in the middle of the night anywhere in virginia and i would know where i was. I had a great sense of place. The only bad part of the governors race was the last day. The rest was important, fun and you get to talk about the thinks that will make a difference. You lose but there is a piece of wisdom saying you cant serve if you dont run. The next day the sun came up. And all of the things i have been able or try to accomplish didnt go away. I regret not having a chance to be governor but we brush ourselves off and go back to work. Still interested in possibly being governor . Not really. I love this job. You know one thing i discovered steve as Lieutenant Governor i was president of the senate and i only got to vote if there was a tie and i didnt get to participate in the debates and lots of legislation that carried by actual members of the General Assembly and i tried to fill the blank slate with as much leadership as i could. As ambassador you are messenger. It is a wonderful job but you dont make much policy. Now i am in the greatest change in agent role i think i have ever been in. So i dont have an interest in being governor. I think if i can do this well and build relationships with democrats and republicans in the house and senate this wile will be a last big chapter of public life. Many people talk about congress being broken dysfunctional, nothing gets done, no body works together what has it been like for you . Not like any of those things. First of all, i have sensed no hostility or animosity at all. It is easy to be pals with most of the democrats. There is only 188 of us. So they have been very welcoming and i have a lot of great new friends. I serve on three committees with these republicans. And little by little i will i am getting to know and be friends with many of them. I want to make as many good friendships across the aisle as i can. And no body has been rude or evil or closeminded. I think week overcome this as we communicate better. As i look now, we got the socalled fix on the sgr done, sounds a little technical but for 17 Years Congress kicked this down the road and nancy pelosi and john boehner got together and did this. I think we will get trade promotion done for the president. We will have to Cross Party Lines there again. I think there is a lot more we can get done. I got my first bill passed on extending science awards beyond nasa to other agencies. Stimulating people to solve science problems we dont have answers for yet. A lot of people on both sides who want to get past the partisan divide. Our representative and ambassador, what was that experience like and when did you serve . We went in august of 2009 and came back of june of 2013. We were there almost four years. We took two teenage daughters with us which meant a lot of crying themselves to sleep until they fell in love with the countries. It was a great experience. You are partly blowing up your life moving from the home and country you are familiar with to new food weather, environment, landscape, languages and new friends. But what i looked best was the Public Service Public Policy challenges were very different every day. We started off trying to resettle Guantanamo Bay detainees that the Bush Administration decided could be released but no other country would take them to dealing with bank secrecy every day which is americans who have Hidden Assets in switzerland trying to get the swiss to obey the sanction again iran so iran would come to the negotiating table. You played a unique role in World History and in europe because of the location, its mountain mountains, culture and government. How did that pose challenges for you . It is independent. They consider themselves the most american of european countries. In fact the swiss identify with the United States closely rather than france germany and uk. They adopted our constitution in 1948 and we took the idea of their states back at the time of the constitutional convention. Going back 1200 years they are like california they have a initiatives and refrandom. They do everything by agreement. They are the only nation without a head of the state. Today it has five different parties from a left party like democratic socialist to a light party. They dont come to decisions so they can all agree. Very different from ours. 50 50,000 votes instead could be getting past. If the republicans are in the majority and the democrats say no. In switzerland the people say no to the parliament. So little insights that filled our liefbdzves over the four years. Four years in switzerland and you t weekends to different capitals. You got to hike and ski a lot. I have been in love with mountains since i was a kid so it was perfect. You were appointed by the president as a civil service. Explain the difference. It is 70 of the u. S. Ambassadors around the world are career and been Foreign Service officers most of their lives and 30 or less are political like i am. We are one of the few countries with that system. Our goes back to the first ambassador being ben Franklin Thomas jeffson and then john adams. So we had political ambassadors for a long time. I like the system. If it were just political it would be problematic because there was diplomacy stuff i didnt know. I had a wonderful number two who is the deputy chief in finland who was a Career Foreign Service officer and we worked as a team. Where she knew how to work the reports that needed to be done with when i had two generations worth of leadership experience managing people and projecting goals and organizing cultures which i have long thought the most important job of the leader is to get the culture right where people Work Together and support each other. The team work went well and i saw it that way in much of the rest of europe. It tends to be the more expensive and important countries end up with the political ambassador who can afford it. Congress doesnt give you much money to afford it and have a lot of leadership experience in business or politics or sometimes both to come in and provide the leadership to make the embassy work. One of the things the federal government doesnt do well overall is to train leaders. You know this is not a cut on central employees. I have more in my district than any district in the country. But navigating a burrocracy means menmizeinimizing risk. You need a mix of inside and outside and i think that is the system we have to get the best results with the people you came across, european leaders and people of europe in general, how do they view america and this president . Yeah i think it is probably changed over the six and a half years. We got there at sort of the fever pitch of excitement about the obama president. After the george w. Bush presidency there was a lot of dismay in europe because of the two wars Guantanamo Bay, our Environmental Policies the Death Penalty stuff, and everyone saw the obama election as america had changed. After all of the racism here we elected an africanamerican president. In the couple conversations we had with the president while i was there he would point out he was more poplar in switzerland than the United States. He always had a 90 Approval Rating there. We spent a lot of time trying to rebrand america and point out we were actually bringing health care to tens of millions of people, that we ended the wars that no nation in the developed world had cut its Carbon Emissions as much as we had after the obama election. So it was a period of recovery in terms of the european understanding and imagination. There have been setbacks. The snowden thing was a setback. And the confusion and rise of isis. And now you have europe threatened by russia and once again things that looked like great ideas in 2009 are trying to readjust. The russian reset is over. First couple months in congress, what has it been like . Very fulfilling. I really enjoy it. It is easy to get up in the morning. The work is entertaining. You can pick up the Washington Post or turn on cspan and feel connected to everything they are talking about. I really enjoy it. The key for me is little by little to develop a relationship and the understanding to have impact on how the decisions come out. In the recent trade debate i have been one of 28 hours democrats that has been voting for trade Promotion Authority to give the president to the tools he needs. In a way if we were lonely it has been the Democratic Caucus but i feel like i am glad i am here. This is going to have a different outcome because i won and i am showing up every day. On that issue . On that issue. Other issues you agree with nancy pelosi. What is your relationship like with her . I think it is very good. That is the other thing, i am not seeing almost any of these positions on policy become personal. I am sure they do for some people. I have not felt personal problems. If my up mendment amendment is up you walk down the wall realizing these are classes of philosophy and motnot personal. How did you win the primary . There were 13 of us initially and 10 on the ballot. Campaigns are messages of delivery and it became obvious the messages that worked the best was 40 years in business lieutenant government state experience, overseas ambassador federal experience, and no one else had the resume and amount of experience to hit the ground running. Frank wolf and jim rand were leaving. And these were the congressman who would not be a newbie for someone that could be a factor. We spent every waking minute, not reading or watching tv for those many months. It worked. And you can cross the plu platomic in your district. What is your routine like . We get up at 5 45 to exercise and try to get here by 8 00. A lot of days are spent here. But this is the focus for voters into the office. Every 15 minutes on a different issue which is wonderful. And they dont just meet with me. I have a great legislative staff who is doing meetings all day long and depending on the vote every night we are out and back into the district to do something. You know nonprofit or town hall or Civic Association and lots of you know connectedness. I think my friends in the house from california and texas and montana say you are close to home but the bad news is you are always on. I think that is good news. I am not away from the people i represent for five days at a time. And you know i feel grateful for this. Any interest in moving up in leadership . I am at the point now where i have had enough titles in my life. I dont need to have a title. But yes i very much want to be part of helping to lead the house and the Democratic Caucus. She was the tv reporter with the camera on her shoulder and so we have been together and politics. This gimmick and your daughters how old are they now 23 three daughters, 34, 23 and 20 and they all theyve all been deeply in politics one way or another. The youngest one seems to be the one that pays the most attention to policy issues day in and day out, so we will see. I have dinner conversations like mine when i was a kid. Its all about whats in the newspaper, Public Policy, and its not boring because theyve only got good strong opinions. Host and what did your dad a think of all this . Guest he doesnt understand why i do this. Hes like what are you doing . You should go play golf. And i love to update him. Back when i was bigger than i would the governor i would call him every night before he checked into the motels place in virginia. Not out of respect for his being 91 i dont call him every night but regularly to update him because he wants to hear what the activities are. Host thank you very much. Thank you. We visited a fare on capitol hill to hear what policy issues Technology Innovators want to discuss with members of congress. We spoke with yelp, all comment several others. It stands for strategic lawsuits against Public Participation and that is basically when the owner doesnt like the review of their business and says im going to try to sue you. They may actually go forward with it and they share that reviewer experienced it is factual and true but you are the little guy and he may not have the money to go to court over what he wrote about a Chinese Restaurant or the car mechanic so instead of doing that you just take off the review. They are protected because of the communication decency act. What we are worried about is the Chilling Effect of those types of lawsuits and what they would have on people that otherwise share their firsthand experience. [inaudible] there are a of regulatory items that we have to address and also to express permission in the affordable Internet Access and to be able to provide services and Public Safety and non government uses to the nation in general. Why your list is different than the wire line. They could be treated differently and it recognizes the resources. Over the network for example we think the wireless piece over freedom of speech and the right to privacy and other issues. It includes the American Enterprise institute, the center for American Progress at the Cato Institute. You will also hear from executive director Anthony Romero. From philadelphia, this is an hour. Welcome to the greatest assembly of the defenders of freedom ever since Thomas Jefferson. We have cato Arthur Brooks of aei, Walter Isaacson at the center for American Progress and Anthony Romero from aclu. A big round of applause. [applause] the Constitution Center at the Constitution Center isnt a convenient space for the greatest thinkers on freedom and constitutional liberties. Im going to plunge right in and we have here on the side of the stage a beautiful document. As you came in the gallery displayed one of the 12 original copies. It is a broad design of his first inaugural address. It was displayed in boston and was printed on something and you can see the meal marks but it was nailed to the wall and citizens would gather around to see what president jefferson had just said he hears what he said in the second inaugural lighting can read it better from my notes and from this beautiful script. We are called by different names brethren of the same principle. We are all republicans and federalists. If there would be any among us with which to dissolve this union in its republican form what with the stand undisturbed as monuments of the safety with which the error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to come out. Walter isaacson you are the great biographer Benjamin Franklin and you know the founding era. as in describing an era of good feeling when there was bipartisan citing vendor is now or were things just as bad as they are now asked . They were just as bad. They just put Benjamin Franklins son in jail under the alien sedition act. We had suddenly become partisan because despite what the goodness of jefferson said, there is a difference between federalists and the republicans. But that isnt necessarily a bad thing. The key to what jefferson said i think is that we may have differences of opinion. We dont have differences in principle. And that is something that i think was true back then. The founding of the nation was so new that people felt there should be a reward for coming together and finding Common Ground as opposed to the incentives for beating in the business business that has been in the media and Everything Else today. I was walking in and i couldnt help myself at a corner catty corner on the grave like youre supposed to come out when he was on the street when they were doing the constitution and they were pulling themselves apart in that way can he finally got up because there was a difference on a state the speed issue which is a foundational difference in the way. And he said when we were young hearings about healthy and we healthier and we were putting together a table or a piece of wood into the joint didnt quite fit together you take a little from one site until the joint would hold together for centuries. And they said so do we hear the message part with some of her commands. And the point in a speech was a compromise may not make great heroes but they do make a great democracy. And that is the difference between the period and now. To explore on the panel why it is in the spirit of the mice to the madisonian vision and his captor in the last panel to talk about civility and empathy has been lost. But heres what we are going to do. We do not all have to agree on the agreement and disagreement in the Mission Statements each of the organizations and as i talked about liberty, lets focus on the constitutional liberty because we are all going to disagree about the policy and here we love to wave the constitutions with the new addition with its riveting introduction by yours truly come come just a brilliant explanation of the similarities between the declaration and constitution and public rights, and i want to start with peter because i think its fair to it is fair to say that cato is the most jeffersonian of the organizations on the stage, and your Mission Statement says that you are founded because the letters published in the 18th century. Of these ends by here the architect of the American Revolution as a simple timeless principles of individual liberty government freemarket or even more powerful today than ever. That cato what is most important in defending liberty clicks isnt the clicks is that the rights commemorated in the bill of rights or the structural imitations on the governmental powers in the constitution itself lacks guest we have a unique perspective in that you mentioned that there are copies in the bill of rights here today. We like the bill of rights in fact we like all of it and coming you can if in the audience i suspect there are many people that would like to treat the ninth amendment and there are many people who would like to treat the tenth amendment as an end block and the framework in the unenumerated rights and enumerated powers are critical. And when you mentioned the differences it was a very partisan time and possibly more rancorous than today but perhaps less agreement on the principle. Its what was being established by the constitution. Remember in the ratification debates, one of the great points of contention is whether there should be a bill of rights were not. And many people believe that there didnt have to be a bill of rights because the pillars in the federal government were strictly limited and enumerated. And we band of risk of rights that were protected and that cato we have a very strong natural rightsbased view of liberty and i think that it is inherent in attention in the constitution on the enumerated rights and powers. Anthony romero tried to think of areas of agreement. Cato and the aclu has agreed on important cases and the briefs in areas ranging from the nsa surveillance to Marriage Equality. And yet there was something in the statement that suggested they care about all the bill of rights. Economic stuff as well as the personal liberty. I dont know if he was suggesting you care more about the personal liberty than the economic liberty . Theyve had a long history of working very closely together. These are not selfexecuting truths. The very first major case to the defense. For the record in 1944. They are loving the right to marry. We need an organization like ours on the panel to take the fullness of the aspiration and to apply them to everyday lives in ways that we can fully apprehend at the moment but only in 30 years from now. In the nature rights revolution one in which even with all of the challenges we confront in the partisan coming hours as the constitution of the forward. This year will be the year the Supreme Court perhaps full Marriage Equality to couples. Now its a prediction that i feel very confident even on cspan because. And i hope im not wrong. The very first samesex marriage case that we filed was 1971. And now 2015 on the cusp of doing full edge quality to every samesex couple to marry. I think that is a remarkable testament to the work of my organization and the work of many on this panel. So, the economic issue is hugely important. We brought a lawsuit that means we could find cato to join us where we have 31st lawsuits that go from homeowner to Investment Bank and detroit homeowners targeted. It alleges Racial Discrimination practices. It says there were clearly racial dynamics behind the Great Recession and a great market meltdown thats affecting poor people and lowincome people of color especially if the impact on the country. So i think its a place where we completely coincide where we decided to spend our energy is a focus of the nuance that might be a place thats different that we have complete agreement. There are areas of the agenda that we would disagree with ranging from the challenging the constitutionality of the Health Care Mandate healthcare mandate to the striking down of some forms of taking the law and questioning aspects of the regular receipt of a constitutional grounds. You are not on that on all respects. I think theres room for evolution on that end. And i think as soon as we have cato join us in the subprime lending debacle im glad to look at these issues that affect the upper class folks in america. We are focused on where we think the needs are the greatest so there is room for many of us. One of the objectives today was defined a Common Ground but there were a mix even on a panel like this. Arthur brooks, youve just written this important new book the road to freedom. You say that the enterprise advocates have been willing to make moral arguments and thats a mistake. And you think that moral arguments should be at the core of the Mission Statement which is devoted to expanding liberty and increasing individual opportunity and strengthening free enterprise. Plus why you think the moral arguments have been neglected and also what degree constitutional arguments are part of the mission and what degree to that degree are you making the constitutional arguments . Spangler in honor it is to be here with this panel where we all care so much about the arguments and about the freedom to be made manifest and how it can be made in each of our lives. Aei is a Pretty Simple mission as you mentioned to expand liberty and increase opportunity and fight for free enterprise. Thats actually not an economic mission. Its to give more people a better life. But we have to back that up with policy. But if you look here we are at the national Constitution Center if you look at the language and try and in the second paragraph that all of us learned by memory its not commercial language. Its that we are in doubt with life, liberty and not property but the pursuit of happiness. This is a new idea in the history of the world a new age idea and if you read this in the way that it was intended by the way Thomas Jefferson was asked a couple of years later why did you use that language from the declaration of rights by george mason he chopped her property. Why . He said it was dictation of the american mind. But it was the dictation of the american heart. That is what was important at the time, the whole concept of the notion of building your life it was of the revolution and the dependence of the mayflower and they were nothing but riffraff with one direction to go and that was up. That is a profoundly moral thing to be in the country that promises each person can build go to their life and that is the mission of my organization. In the commercial republic a substantial system with the system does have the talk about an awful lot of . It is a system that brought me into the movement for Economic Freedom. Its the system that has taken 2 billion people out of poverty since i was a kid. That system is one of globalization and Property Rights and rules and law and free trade and most importantly, the American Enterprise system. Theres been no other achievement that comes close. What looks like an economic phenomenon is nothing more than a substantiation of the moral principle and second paragraph of the declaration of independence. Theres no doubt as you say they were inspired by this philosophy of the rights that inspired the constitutionalism and we have been incredible interaction you can see in the gallery and now cspan people online you can click on any provision in the u. S. Bill of rights and see its historic antecedents in the virginia declaration of the other revolutionary state constitution and Arthur Brooke noticed then trace the spread of the liberty across the globe and compare the way the u. S. Covers are out of the world. Its based on the declaration of independence and on individual liberty. Theres not a lot of a quality talk and despite the declaration schemas promise that all men are created equal in the civil war to codify the center for American Progress Mission Statement talks about how we believe america should be a land of balance opportunity. People should balance the ladder of mobility. We have to protect and promote peace and share the global prosperity and harness the strength of our diversity. Are you focused on the decline and is the language designating with you . We all share a profound commitment we are constantly debating the meaning of liberty and opportunity and the meaning of broad a quality and obviously today we are focused with many states on the panel of opportunity of the freedom around samesex marriage but no one was talking about years ago. I think some of the conflict about liberty and economic liberty and its conflict with opportunities and mobility where they exist go back 100 years ago and the sum of the debates we had were considering economic liberty as a paramount value stricken dumb protections that the state offered to protect individuals themselves from a marketplace that was running amok in their own interest. So i dont think of these economic liberty issues as opposed to the state estate itself. Often times these issues are one where its one individuals economic liberty against another. And in the case Anthony Romero mentioned earlier around the subprime mortgage interest. These are issues where they are in conflict and i think that we should have a robust discussion of what that means and i may disagree with others on the panel about which value makes sense in that moment. But i would argue my view of liberty is as strong as theres. The response to the progressive era that it was a time when they were in the progressive legislation in the name of economic liberty. Many of the decisions were announced by liberal and conservative justices from Oliver Wendell holmes and Louis Brandeis to antonin scalia. But now there are a distinguished scholar who argue the court was right to strike down the law and we need a new judicial engagement to protect economic liberties against threats to it. They were decrying the judicial activism. But we think that there is clearly a role. And the framework that we discussed earlier and the court needs to be on the line of defense where the legislature overstepped its bounds. In response to our concern is that when coercion is used in the arena that the government coerces Economic Agents in order to generate a specific outcome. Its our idea of liberty. Aei have some defenders of judicial restraint and others who believe in is more engaged vision. What is your sense of how the conservative movement is negotiating at how vigorous should the court intervened to protect economic liberty today . Something thats important that was brought up as the is the concept of the liberty from 200 years ago differ and what we are faced with today is to competing understandings of what liberty really means were freedom really means. There is the notion of the absence of coercion which is the classic understanding of freedom which is what the founders were talking about and then later as there was a lot of progress in philosophy there was a notion that entered my freedom from the freedom to certain rights you do so we are trying to educate the balance of the freedom from. And i dont think theres anybody that is an absolutist that says we need to go back to what people were thinking about in 1760. I think a lot of the spending for the balance isnt quite right yet. The interesting thing is that adjudication process it is to go further in the realm of entitlements and personal rights and more freedom to the left and thats the dimension on which they would disagree. And also certainly on the panel which is kind of like aei. At what time do they still speak to contemporary people bristling with questions involving the Liberty Technology and society today. Going back to the constitution and seeing how it applies. There is equality and individual liberty and on the notion of the community and the common good and the general welfare and economic pure freedom and one of the things the Aspen Institute was founded upon was the principle of a compass in which you find sort of the balance of the values you need Community Versus individualism versus economic growth. To understand what the other side is about and in theory to find some Common Ground where that would hold. We talked about the need to put it in moral terms. There is a reason that we are here and it is partly because we want to lead a moral life and understand how to create a moral society. One of your precursors was Michael Novak that wrote books like the one that you were about to and in the spirit of capitalism which really gets at his balance while. But it does well is to benefit the individual. So, when you look at the balance what can we do in the concept more economic equality and we can to you while one place we can find the Common Ground is on this notion on opportunity from ben franklin and boston. If you work hard everyone should start with some semblance of a good opportunity. We had lost that in society even in the time ive been around, certainly since been franklin, meaning when i went to school they were pretty much a bunch of schools in new orleans. My dad went to the same schools and this was after desegregation but now we have created a more separate society where depending on your zip code zip code or family circumstances this is the new book that astonished me and i dont think that is a liberal per se they would say we lost that notion of making sure everybody has an equal opportunity. So in terms of the Aspen Institute to say we balance a lot of the values that we can get 70 to 80 of people to agree on these particular moral principles. And we need those to agree to leave that aside about weaponize in the dispute. I am not sure that our Society Faces a major crisis as pizza parlor owners having to cater the weddings and we all just calm down and we can balance this that we try to make these things into the disputes instead of finding the Common Ground. And also the aclu under your leadership impressively is between the liberty and equality and hate speech which we will be talking more on the panel. How do you try to reconcile those two values . Its when the rights clash that we have the greatest challenge as a society because there are legitimate places where the rights of one group may be in conflict to balance them out to the side of the conflict in the right and i think those are tough issues. I find it and i was watching in the green room green room the earlier conversation this question around the pizza parlor owner the reason you find the great resurgence of people demanding that religious freedom and saying it is under attack is because we made advances with the quality. It is under attack. Thats not true. The religious freedom is a strong and vigorous than it ever was. They woke up and saw political contacts around them changing. So plan b. Is very cynical and its a way to carve the progress for the lgb t. And its not the a question of the individual pizza owner. They wont get pizza anywhere. In texas and places where we brought some of this work on the church and separation its not that he wont be able to get the one baker that will give you a wedding cake for a lesbian wedding, all of them will ban you. All of these voters will exert religious liberty and event the samesex couple to have a marriage with dignity converse to them by law will be no. How do we unpack this use of the rights framework that is just a coating for discrimination and lets call it for what it is and thats what it was and resurgence of this desire to exert the religious liberty of the disenfranchised poor little groups that outlined their inability to worship the way they wish and certainly no greater peril. Its just that the world has changed around them. [laughter] we believe there are good arguments on each side of the question. Peter, i dont do with this one is for you but what we say senator mike leigh was here in the center on thursday and gave a spectacular talk about his new book about the lost constitution and he very vigorously articulated on the other side which is essentially since the courts have not held discrimination as the same status therefore it is not inappropriate to refuse the antidiscrimination law. I can keep going by stating these arguments but do they have a dog in the fight and do you support the religious exemptions . Another easy one. [laughter] we have 50 minutes and ensure that it will be fine. You asked the question before about the distinctions in the plaintiff if you and we stood shoulder to shoulder with them on the issue of marriage. We do have a difference of opinion on the other side because we do think that there is a legitimate liberty. And the issue of the photographer when youve are participating in the ceremony in a significant way. He and it is easy to make the argument no one will be able to be served, and gay weddings will be changed but we always place a great faith in the market and the incentive of economic players to serve their interest in feeding as walters said there are many people that are sympathetic to the change to the Public Opinion on gay marriage and im a little incredulous that people are not going to find pizza makers to cater their weddings. Spec i would like to point to the fact that right here is where we have liberty interests on both sides. I would note that the liberty interest of pizza owners and hotel owners etc. Were articulated in the 1960s and the civil rights struggle and the issue that we are dealing with is do you think that lgb t. Folks should be a protected class so that is what is at stake. You can articulate liberty on both sides and i believe the liberty interest is the person that has discriminated against is an important and paramount liberty interest because the feeling of being discriminated against because of who you are is very different from any other experience it for the beauty of the constitution is that it recognized the minority interests in a democracy need to be respected because they will not always respected that and the beauty of the constitution has expanded its vision from the days of the first founding where africanamericans were three fifths of a person today whereas one of the most diverse countries in the thriving country because we had values of tolerance and acceptance of and inclusivity that started in the constitution. One of the cornerstones in the philosophy and one of the reasons i find it so compelling is that weve been talking on this panel and in the Previous Panel about issues that create a lot of strife in our society and it is always the case that this occurs in the state involved in places where perhaps it shouldnt be. If the state were not already involved in marriage licensing marriage defining marriage, we wouldnt have had a very difficult discussion that weve had over the last few decades about gay marriage but we didnt have the demonstrations of what is in a the textbook and one of the reasons that i find libertarian philosophy is that so much of the things that we argue about what really disappear, and when we have a lot of calls for civility in our discourse in politics and the instability is subjective and the government when the government power is used to do things that create disagreement. Do you agree that all the way and that philosophy and were greatly adopted . I didnt say all. [laughter] most. I would be willing to experiment a little bit with that. But i would like to say a quick word about civility because this is something we talked about a lot and i know a lot of the institutions in washington. Just a word of caution. I think it is dangerous when we talk about what is written on the hearts of people with whom we disagree. Now i write for a wellknown newspaper in new york city not known for its conservative views. Want some of the iraqi column in the New York Times entitled read my comments. The reason i dont is because i dont feel edified by people who are talking about my motives and i think there is a danger. But i daresay politically right of center personally come, not a lot harder than others here and perhaps more than any of you the reason im in the conservative movement is because they care about poverty. Thats it. I dont care what the billionaires were the tax rates. I dont care. Thats not why im in the movement. I know it sounds insane to a lot of progressives to be in the conservative movement because because he went to lift people out of poverty. Thats my view. And when i hear that the American Enterprise institute i secretly want to give tax breaks to billionaires and its a dangerous line of argumentation. We are in a period of divisive leadership in this country in a period of optimism and unity around the core American Values and the only way that we can do this even though i want to do it too i want to talk about people who disagree with me and say they dont love their country as much as i do. We dont know that. Trapped. Go ahead and funny. [laughter] when someone refuses to serve a gay and in a the restaurant because hes what enhances his partner, that in our society should be unacceptable. Ive lived it with my longterm partner and when i show up and they find them in the front desk and say you cant stay here i say the affront to ones dignity cannot be minimized. I went to a hotel room down the street in the district of mexico city but it almost ruined the vacation. For the equality under law it shouldnt sanction when the pizza man puts up a sign and subjected himself to the screening of the Health Department puts up an exit sign like that to comply with local codes and law i just want to advertise a good im not sure we want that either. Weve agreed to enter this kind of government controlled space and the government shouldnt allow them to determine who should serve and who not to serve. And it might be for all Different Reasons but i daresay the reason you find this research and of the use of the religious liberty is because we have made progress on the lgb t. Front and when someone refuses to serve me at a restaurant or at a hotel based purely on the fact that im a gay man i will call it homophobia. I wont call it religious liberty. Our nation believes in the rights of all people. On this question of whether it is homophobia or the desire to preserve tradition of course will be a part of the Supreme Courts decision in june. Chief Justice Roberts in his dissenting opinion said he wouldnt be quick to target phrase to get tree and the americans that voted for the referenda banning gay marriage and the fact that we can have this discussion is what allows this discussion to be so civil and rather than continuing this i would prefer everyone to the debate on the topics that we are having just in washington two weeks ago we launched the National Town hall debate about how the lobby and on june 2 here at the Constitution Center we will have a debate on the issue of Marriage Equality with evan wilson who is considered the third of march 0 the movement debating others. We have nine minutes left on the charge which means we have a notion of what the right and left and libertarians can agree about. Im just going to throw out one possibility and to see if anyone will say may. They are embraced by the right and left and i can do it by heart although you cannot get your brilliant copies of the National Constitution at the national Constitution Center which by the way next here is on amazon. It is to be secure its to be secure in their houses and papers and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures. The court court and in court in a 90 decision held that the police can often they arrest take my cell phone because its not like a cigarette packet and the year before that it held that the police name of the gps or Global Positioning system on the bottom of the car in front of you that extremely intrusive ubiquitous surveillance resembles the general laurent that sparked the American Revolution that violates the Fourth Amendment. Some social conservatives might question it. Im not going to stand up for the extremely intrusive was here for extreme intrusion. Weve got eight minutes left. There is an interesting issue which is privacy if you can find the number as you know in the constitution. But when people debate privacy i often feel we havent got into the moral question of why do we want privacy clicks i know why i want it, but i dont think that we start with the foundation of the individual autonomy. You know the whole moral question of what we are building and at times when does privacy become anonymity and the reason you dont read your comments online or i get an email from saying shes in uganda and lost her passport is because it allows people and whatever it may be so im not making a target here i am saying we havent had the full discussion of the rationale for what we call privacy. If i could u. And i have had great discussions about this but when we become more extract about the issues than the agreement goes away so yes it is an unreasonable search but if i say say do you support a broad array of the Tommy Douglas and jewels to decide their own conception for the meaning of the universe and human life to use kennedys phrase in upholding roe v. Wade i would imagine many of your members would get off the boat for sure. Absolutely and i think a lot of you in the audience and people watching on tv would object as while. Talk about expensive ephemerality that governs their lives to say that effectively you dont just govern your own life as you should system of rights and responsibilities that you can invent your own universe. Heres where we are trying to find the balance. Weve are having lunch the other day and captured my imagination because here is the thing that we we agree on a lot which is the importance of dignity. The important privacy is a question of dignity. Anthony shouldnt be subjected to what hes put through and hes checking into the motel where going to a restaurant thats what we are talking about and that is what the framers are talking about. Its not an inefficient way to do things to discriminate. Its troops did in the from each and so fundamentally it is and moral. We can avoid that but you know what, if we are not decent people over paper in the world will amount to nothing. Its written by the colleagues at aei adam smith. It was a theory of the moral sentiment that came first 17 years earlier in 1759. If it was a more important but why . Because because it talks about the fact you dont even deserve the republic based on these rights and freedoms if you cant conduct yourself with basic morality and the same is true for each one of us today. We can have all of the legal discussions that we want and we should buy it away about whether or not you are served which you should be, but what if we actually have the question of law as opposed to basic decency that is what comes first. The point i tried to make a bit more eloquently us try to figure out why this is an enlightening concept. We are sitting here so to speak between 1776 and 1789 or whatever whenever they do the bill of rights. And this is new in the nytimes and if the of the individual autonomy and dignity and that is we have to figure out where i think you said the bill of rights isnt like the symphony where you can like the first and fifth but hate the ninth, you have to take it all at the package and i think that package is sort of an enlightenment notion, too. I completely agree that we would it would be a better world if people were inherently decent. I would just ask us to look through the last couple of hundred years as history in the United States and recognize it is also people fighting for changes in the law that predates a world that are respected their dignity. We are in anniversary of selma. People have to protest to make the law recognize that was a legal change and it needed to happen. People were not doing it on their own. And the law interacted in the society to create a change in the world in which African Americans today are treated differently than they were. So, i wish we all were born that way. But it takes a change in the loss of people struggled with and that is a great thing in america. Its a great part of the country that we have institutions that can be changed by public protest and action to make it a more perfect union. It is time, ladies and gentlemen for closing statements each of your institutions we hope will be inspired and asked her to mobilize americans across the country to debate comes at a great and learn about freedom. If i could ask each of you to identify a freedom or set of freedoms that you think are important to promote and tell us what you and your organizations will do to inspire americans to promote it. We sat together at the waldorf 18 months ago and you said i have a new idea for a holiday. The sheer force of will and energy brought us to this day. And i woke up in a hotel and it took a while for newspapers to load into the ipad in for a second, i did think i get the wall street journal doesnt publish on freedom day. [laughter] and youve talked a lot about finding Common Ground. And at the Cato Institute is nonpartisan. And we are nonpartisan for a reason because once we sit across the table from one another that you are a member of one party and i am a member of another. Your ability to persuade an and ability to engage in the honest and open debate is wounded, and i think that we do need to focus on trying to get ourselves up above the political process and thinking about these are our guys. We love the people on the other side of those men, those men and women coming you know they dont have as arthur sentiment you shouldnt be impugning someones intent and integrity. We can rise above that and i think that there is an unbelievable bipartisan assault going on in the rule of law right now which is ultimately what sets us apart. This is something if we are honest with ourselves and try to its not about one specific issue, so maybe its something that in a big picture way that we can agree is a problem and something that we need to address. And its just in the service of the policy outcome. What am i doing today to set someone else free. As we go through a dreaded president ial cycle, its not your throats again. Im sorry to call you if youre not reading the news, its all about what we are doing to protect our own freedom and that is right and important but i think we have to ask it is a good opportunity. What are we doing as a warrior for the freedom of others and im not telling you what youre balance on freedom is or explanation for freedom is what definition is. But what are you doing it so i would simply propose this, a little examination of each conscious and to do this tonight as i go to sleep. Im not going to ask myself what a mean thing to do somebody say about me in the New York Times. I know its something. Im going to ask how divisive somebody free and did my work go to the people with less power than me and if my answer is no then ive done something wrong but if my answer is yes then im coming back tomorrow to my office and im going to strike on nice shield strap on nice shield and do something else. Its hard to top that by going but by going back to the original question which is what principle do you think is most important and what are we going to try to do about it and i think the principle that is most important to the foundational creed is the principle of opportunity the land of opportunity that no matter where you are born or what the state when ben franklin comes over it is to avoid the class system and the hereditary aristocracy so that everybody has an opportunity. Thats why we have individual freedom and its also why we work as communities to make sure that we build the right schools or do the right things. So any kid in a matter of appearance or the zip code will have an opportunity to succeed. Weve created the equal happiness to the bill of rights. This does unite people that believe in Economic Freedom to be leaving pursuit of the common good. We can easily turn it into the weaponize rights issues and stuff or where we can say you know what. We are in the same boat now. So what are we going to do. So next month we are creating a whole new division of the Aspen Institute on youth opportunity because every person in this room has had a lot of opportunities including to the indus room in an enriching experiences we had great chances in the summer to do things and great afterschool programs and used to be the threat of American History that we made things open like that to more and more people. Something horrible has happened in the past 30 or 40 years is the divergence of the enrichment opportunities have widened rather than narrowed. So i think instead of pontificating about it or. She started us on this worth to the aspen challenge. We bring you to ask them to show it off if you perceive the academy from mcdonagh 43 or whatever schools, denver, washington chicago will have the same opportunity that i had when i got out of school at 3 00 at noon in and we started doing projects. So based on what mike has done in other people i think that we could be scatter to as ourselves what did we do not only to climb the ladder. I couldnt agree more with that. I think to answer the question about what we would be doing first i would like to acknowledge theres been a lot of rancor on the panel but cato and cap have worked together for the last two years on the issues of samesex marriage and i know that might have been easier for us but they were very early and focused on that there were areas we reached across the aisle in another area brought up by the Fourth Amendment question he will get the last several decades part and parcel of the decisions by the Supreme Court. The conservative groups like americans for tax reform and freedom work funded by the Broad Coalition of folks from the coke Brothers Foundation to mcarthur forthcoming and the Arnold Foundation to the new coalition to the draft incarceration and a whole range of issues and the coalition has very much been talking about the forfeiture and also issues like the sentencing reform and this is an area where i think that we all recognize there is a broad problem and a broad coolish and including the conservatives and progressives can solve it together. And im hoping that we will have more Supreme Court cases that are recognizing the individual rights and the importance of the Fourth Amendment over the next several decades that we hope will also reform the legislative side as well
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