session watch live coverage here on c-span. we will get to your thoughts in a minute. let's begin with the situation at the border. the homeland security secretary yesterday discussed sites where they are forming camps on the international bridge. here is what he had to say to those crossing, thinking they would make the journey. [video clip] >> we have directed appropriate agencies to provide assistance and some work. the majority of migrants continue to be expelled under the cdc authority. those that cannot be expelled under the authority and do not have a legal basis to remain will be placed in expedited removal proceedings. dhs is conducting regular flights to haiti, mexico, ecuador, and northern triangle countries. we are very concerned. the haitians taking this irregular path are receiving false information that the border is open or that temporary status is available and i want to make sure that it is known that this is not the way to come to the united states. that is false information. irregular migration poses a serious early risk to the migrants themselves. trying to enter the united states illegally is not worth tragedy, money, or effort. host: the homeland security secretary yesterday at the border. "the new york times close vote reporting this morning, wire haitians coming in the numbers we are seeing? -- times" reporting this morning, "why are haitians coming in the numbers we are seeing"? host: that is "the new york times" wording. haitians on the border, this also open the new york times" this morning -- host: this morning, do you support or oppose the biden administration immigration and order policy? barry, you oppose. welcome to the conversation. go ahead. caller: i'm an independent, but eileen left. i just him to agree with this border policy. all democrats and republicans, they want these immigrant in here for the cheap labor always. that's just the ones that run businesses, the democrats and republicans. i just don't understand what's going on either. all you got to do is round them up, get them out of here. whatever happened to the 70's and 80's when they would come up for a few months a year and work the cops. for some reason our government wants them to stay now. host: all right, here's the white house press secretary jen psaki talking about the challenging situation at the border. [video clip] >> this is devastating footage to watch but what we are trying to do is protect people. one way of conveying that this is not the time to come, we have in implementing title 42 and it's not just about people in the united states, it's also about protecting migrants that would come and be in mass groups. we are also surging resources and taking a multipronged approach, working with the red cross to bring in the much-needed resources, with her own central kitchen and expediting repatriation flights to a range of countries in south and central america where they may have him from if they can be accepted back, and some of them back to haiti. that's the focus at this point in time. the message continues to be that now is not the time to come, for a range of reasons. including that we don't have the immigration system up and running in the way that we want, wooding that there is still a pandemic and these are the steps we are taking in part protect border communities in the migrants themselves. host: that was the white house press secretary yesterday. take a look at this image in the wall street journal this morning, migrants crossing the rio grande back into mexico. about 16,000 migrants in recent weeks have gathered under a bridge in del rio. the headline is that the u.s. has started flying these migrants back to 80. under title 42, which you heard the press secretary mention, that allows the administration to rapidly expel migrants at the border to prevent the spread of covid-19 in the united states. joe, you oppose. go ahead. caller: it's really sad to see the story with all the haitians tech this. i was particularly concerned with an image that i saw where they were being corralled with whips. it's sad that that is happening you guys member when the evs administration wasn't laced. they actually had folks come in to give them the protection that they needed. even though it wasn't as good as most people thought, you never saw these kinds of images where it appeared that certain kind of people and if you remember, haiti has been going through a lot of turmoil. the president got assassinated and then you had the earth wake in the hurricane. i think they qualify for refugee status. putting them on planes and sending them back is not the right look the biden administration, particularly an administration that had a lot of soup from african-americans. this is not going to be a good day. that's all i have. host: ok. james, new hampshire, share your thought. -- thoughts. caller: my perspective, from this standpoint, at one time i was in haiti during the 1990 period and before, when they did have mass migrations and stuff in guantanamo bay, cuba, for a time, taking care of after the process, taking care of the haitians migrating, thousands and thousands of them there. since that time, i have married one of the migrants and we had a daughter. now she is a practicing physician in new york city. however, the numbers coming are massive and i understand that this country cannot absorb waves of people of that nature. and i realize the conditions that they were existing in in haiti, having been there and lived through that turbulent time. so, i understand why these people are coming, but there is a limit to which the united states can accept mass migration across the borders. host: james, what are your thoughts on many of them having not lived in haiti for a long time. they migrated after the earthquake, before or after that, to countries like brazil and chili? -- file -- chile? caller: my daughter got caught in that earthquake and was airlifted out by the u.s. military. i understand the depravation of the country, having lived there, and the horrors that they face. i can fully understand that there are people in desperation exiting that location for economic and other reasons. simply because of the unstable environment they are living in now. as a person, i would say i have to do the same thing in their position. the human horror. host: take a look as we talked to kirk in alabama, these images were captured by fox news and a human rights lawyer. you oppose what you are seeing. go ahead. caller: good morning, greta, america, thank you for taking my call. i'm completely opposed to it. i don't understand what's going on that our country, our government, our state governors would allow this president to mass migrate so many people to this country and then don't fire any health restrictions and such. and then i also find it particularly curious and interesting that for some reason , the united states has a particular special policy that is anti-haitian immigration, for whatever the reason. you know, who doesn't understand that of all the people migrating to this country since this administration, who is more qualified for refugee status than the haitian people? why is it that so many other south american and central american migrants can come to this country for seven months, but it doesn't become a crisis until it becomes predominantly haitian people? it makes america seem to be racist against black people in particular. i don't understand it, greta. i don't think that this country can sustain this type of unfettered, unmanaged, open immigration. it's destroying our country, our economy, and everything else. this president, if you can call him that, is a disaster. so is his administration and everything they touch. who didn't know that about joe biden over his 50 year rear? he's a bumbling fool. he's mr. magoo in reality. host: governor greg abbott with this tweet, requesting a federal emergency declaration from the president in the state of texas in response to the border crisis and the dire situation in that county. now, a letter to the president from 26 republican governors reads this way, the month-long surge in illegal host: rollo, in washington, d.c., good morning, go ahead. caller: i'm appalled by all the imagery from customs and border patrol. it's reprehensible and i want to know where is congressional black caucus on this? where is maxine waters from california? where's the head of the congressional black caucus? these are people of color, people of african dissent and brown people, hispanic people who are basically indigenous to those regions as well, dissented from aztecs and mayans. these are people of color letting the afghani's over here because the census bureau considers them white. i have worked with the census bureau and u.s. aid and i have worked with haitians and been to haiti and a lot of the money that we allotted to them in that earthquake was misappropriated from the upper echelon. it wasn't evenly distributed. there were no programs initiated and a lot of those are still suffering from 2010, of course what, 11 years ago. our country tends to be so humanitarian and altruistic and it comes to letting people from the middle east or eastern europe in. when it comes to people of color and particularly people of african descent, we are hesitant to voice our opinions or be so giving or welcoming to them. we still have this image and this racism that has been embedded psychologically through centuries and it's just unfortunate and i'm very appalled this. i want to know where are the people with black lives matter. where are the good, quote unquote, white liberals, who really believe in economic parity and who are human it carrion in your thinking. i want to know where these people are. i don't hear anything from them. thank you. host: here's a tweet from a member of congress saying they want to express their concern over reports of an urgent humanitarian isis for tens of thousands of displaced haitians and i want to be clear that we are a nation -- humanitarian crisis for tens of thousands of displaced haitians and i want to be clear that we are a nation of humanity and rule of law. i will continue to fight see that refugees are welcome in america, regardless of race or country of origin. she writes that she is the chair of the congressional black caucus, her reaction to what she is seeing on the southern border. you and a previous caller mentioned as well, images of border patrol on horseback with a wit, corralling migrants -- with a whip, corralling migrants. here's the press secretary reacting to that. [video clip] >> there are photos of order patrol using whips on migrants. there are people who are upset. can you explain that? >> understandably so. i've seen some of the footage. i don't have the full context. i can't imagine what context would make that appropriate. i don't think anyone seeing that footage would think it was acceptable or appropriate. host: the white house response to the images that some have mentioned and people were discussing yesterday. it's your turn now to let washington and the decision-makers -- know about what you are -- how you feel about what you are seeing on the border and the administrative response to it. fred, next. caller: can you hear me? i'm originally from sydney, australia. i came to the u.s. in 19 if t9 and you wouldn't believe the paperwork i had to do to get into the country. i had to see three doctors, have background investigations done. i had to get a whole bunch of things done. for people, i had to do all of those things and i was married to an american by the way. which is why i wanted to come, to join him at the beginning. the people complaining now about how hard, how difficult it is when people are just crossing the border and don't have to go through the whole paperwork and hold making sure they are not bringing viruses into the country? i think it's not correct. i mean you know, even back then, 1969, i had to go through, the paperwork came to about one inch >> you can watch the rest of this "washington journal" segment on our website. c-span .org. we take you live to the house floor for debate on a short-term government spending bill. later, work on the defense programs bill. you're watching live coverage on c-span.