miller meeks who was a congresswoman from iowa. one of the authors is with us. sarah ferris, a congressional reporter. this has been growing in the last couple of days. why don't you tell us what the situation is in that second district in iowa? guest: sure, what is interesting is that we have known that this will be the case for months. we knew that the democrat will be challenging, and it is really just begun to surface over the last couple of days because this case is ramping up. what is happening is this race in the second district came down to six votes, so the republican candidate, marionette miller meeks was seated by the house, so she is the representative for that district, but the democrat, rita hart lost by six votes and is contesting that through the house administration committee. they will have to make a decision whether to formally investigate this weather to do it is a recount or look into this. if that is the case they will make a recommendation. that is whether or not to overturn the election or to stand by the seating of the republican. there are a lot of people where this is not unusual, this thing does happen, but right now it is making some of the democrats nervous about what could happen. host: what about the iowa election officials, how did they rule about the six votes? what happened with the election officials? guest: this is back and forth for many weeks, ultimately they determined that she was the winner, but the democrat said it comes down to a separate 22 votes that the iowa election officials said were not going to count. the democrats argued that they should be counted and if they were she would be the winner. that is what the administration committee will focus on, those 22 votes. caller: -- host: you wrote that house members are concerned about this, what have they told the speaker about their concerns? guest: it comes down to this is an uncomfortable political message and amoral cologne drum -- a moral conundrum in a large part because of what happened on january 6. we saw what happened when republicans had this message of why a federal election needed to be overturned and they of course were talking about the presidential level but there were democrats in the capital who are still really sensitive about this issue, and they say, how can we have a message where even if it comes down to six votes or a mistake in the iowa process, how can we go and overturn an election in the house of representatives? there are a lot of arguments from senior democrats who have lived through a process that say the house is a backstop. this is a legal procedure that they are going through, unlike trump and the republicans, they did not go through the legal administrative process. they say it is a difference and it is not compared to what trump did. there are a lot of democrats who say that it is not worth this right now. we should really just let the states handle their own elections and those concerns have been bubbling up. several of them have made their concerns known to house leadership. host: i am trying to recall the most recent in the last decade or so house members that have removed. there was one from ohio and then william jefferson from louisiana. neither of those had anything to do with an election result, however. guest: no, in the case that everyone refers to in terms of a member being actually -- an election being overturned is the indiana back in the 80's, and that was a contentious case where the democrats did overturn a seated republican. republicans were led by newt gingrich and this became a contentious issue. it is not clear that that would be the same case here because democrats were skeptical that they could have the votes to unseat even if the administration committee did make a recommendation to overturn the iowa state results. but, people have long memories and some of them have pointed to the bloody ace back in 1985, and say that this is something that they cannot imagine happening now and that they should not have to be in a position where this is the case. but, most people say that this is different, and this election is so close and it deserves scrutiny from the house administration committee process. host: how soon will they make their decision? guest: we are expecting at least a couple of hearings over the next few weeks. the process is a little bit opaque just because it is not something -- there is a lot going on. it is recessed right now, so we will watch and have at least a couple of televised public hearings where they will be reviewing evidence. we do not have any idea of when that will come, but i have been told that the decision is not necessarily imminent. they have a lot of material to review. host: democrats have to be aware that this could potentially be a tough political issue will not -- not only in the state of iowa but republicans could make it a real issue. guest: republicans are already making this a an issue because they do not have a lot else to message on. the republicans, of course, did not vote for this massive leaf package and that is all the democrats have been talking about. the republicans can talk about the border, what is happening with unaccompanied minors at the border, they can talk about this election, otherwise they do not want to talk about the fact that the relief package passed and it is popular. this has been an issue that they are seizing on because this could be really helpful for their politics. host: we will look for further reporting. sarah ferris for politico. also how he angles the white-hot spotlight of the press. louisville, kentucky, richard. caller: good morning. i was hoping to ask the young lady because she is up-to-date on policies with money but that is ok -- my question to biden would be -- it is easy to say we are going to print money. the gentleman called earlier from

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