"washington journal" continues. host: joining us now, thom hartmann. host of the thom hartmann program. for being here. guest: i am pretty sure that we have covered your program in political years, but i think this is your first time on "washington journal." you're right. i have been on c-span a number of times. i did an interview with brian a number of years ago. and familiarlks with your program, tell us about it. guest: i am a progressive commentator. i am an old news guy. i used to work in radio news back in the 1960's and 19 70's. we started the program 18 years ago. that became the business plan for air america. i was suggesting progressives could do good on radio just like conservatives. i started my show before air america started up. they called me in as a consultant. a proofrted my show is of concept, just to see if we could make it work. onhin a few months we were 29 stations, on sirius xm -- this was back in 2003, and you know, it was started on a lark. when moved to vermont. we retired. we said, let's have some fun. here we are 18 years later and still doing it. and now it's everywhere. it just grows and grows and grows. host: your show is kind of all over the place. you are a syndicated program. you are on sirius xm, you are on commercial and noncommercial stations, correct? guest: right. really substantial commercial progressive stations in the country, the largest in minneapolis, but there are others around the country. on a whole bunch of those and a lot smaller ones. in portland we have the low bar on and we are also pacifica stations, nonprofit stations all over the country. kpfk inest affiliate is kpfk in los -- is angeles. satelliter direct dish on hulu and a bunch of other places. "talk" is the trick obligation of your business. the top talkers. .here's a bunch of programs not surprising, rush limbaugh, 15 point i've million listeners. you were at number 10. i point this out because in the top 10 -- you are the one liberal talk show host. why do you think you are the only one standing there in the top 10? back in 1984, the number -- helk show in america did not cover the entire country, but he covered at least 26 states -- was alan berg. he was progressive. there was a fair amount of .rogressive radio he was famously assassinated by . couple skinheads they made a movie about it "talk radio." in 1984, rush limbaugh started his show and it did well and ee, talky thought, oh, g radio works. liberals were afraid of going back on the air for fear of being assassinated. limbaugh a revived a.m. radio. he is an incredibly talented man for whom i have terrible -- i have tremendous respect. it's unfortunate he is dying right now. i don't know him personally, but i wish him well. is, that wasne , 1987, the fairness doctrine, really i do not think it had much to do with it. but in 1996, there was -- with the telecommunications act there was massive consolidation to the you have most of countries -- and they had built the second-largest company. i met with a u.s. senator. he had not only bought the radio stations. .e had but westwood one i said if you've got 700, 800, 900 radio stations and probably a couple hundred have conservative programming and i will have liberal programming. he looked at me straight in the face and said, non-. i'm not when to put anyone on the air who wants to raise my taxes. york and sat new next to a senior executive with salem and said, hey, dennis are --s show and others and others are ron. i used to debate michael medved all the time. on his show and mine. you put progressives on? you said we only put people who hold christian values on the air. i am a christian. i was the pastor of a church. and he said, no, no, you can't be christian and be a liberal. and he said, you will create brand confusion. aat you are seeing now is not lack of listeners, who are doing really well where we are on the air. ofare seeing a lack companies were willing to put progressive voices on the air and i think that's really unfortunate. host: our guest is thom hartmann , nationally syndicated radio host out of portland. we're talking about the state of the media and politics in 2020, 2021. here are the lines. 202-748-8001 four republicans, 202-748-8000 four democrats, and for independents 202-748-8002. let's go back to rush limbaugh. a lot of people have written that he, in that show, tapped into something that folks listening were not getting at the time from the national news. they were getting his take on the news and reporting on the he tapped into something that no other host at .hat point had really done i bounced around to progressive, rock, and rock 'n i helpedions and then daily talkck drake's show. he did a one-our talk show every afternoon at 3:00 and i was the guy who helped put it together and line-up guests and make sure the tape delay was working. it was more of an aesthetic man a law. the fairness doctrine did say if station management offered an opinion, which was typically , ifented as an editorial station management or ownership offered an opinion, then the station had to offer equal time to a dissenting opinion, and the owner of the station would say -- when i worked in lansing, in fact i helped produce -- it was a local family. they named the station after their son and he would come on and offered his opinion about the mayor or whatever and then they would get somebody who likes the mayor to come on and give them equal time. that equal time role only applied to the ownership of the station. it did not apply to everyone else. people think that doing away doctrine inrness the summer of 1987 takes the way for rush limbaugh. there's really no relationship tween the two. h,t prior to limbaugh's iconoclastic liberals -- alan burke, howard stern, and howard stern even doing a lot of progressive talk radio, although a lot of it in this first with music, but he had been doing that for years. smith group, which rush limbaugh promoted aggressively that liberals had no interest and they all had npr anyway and -- he knows this dialogue isn't true. talk radio is not so much about offering content. i will go through a stack of stories in the course of a show. what good talk radio is about is taking calls from listeners, debating listeners, it's community. whether people are politically i get a lot of conservatives to call into my program. we are right next to a station.ive we are on progress 127, 128, 129 . of conservatives calling. i really like that. when they call in, they always go to the front of the line because i think having conversations where there is some conflict and i don't be people up or yell at them or call them idiots, but where , brightenssagreement issues. it informs people. to bringes both sides out actual facts rather than slogans. i think that's a good paying and conservatives want community on progressives -- progressives want community on radio just like conservatives do. which is why it does well in the cities where is well-established. host: the reach of radio in the nielsen, at least, measurements of radio, they are just shy of six hours with their tv connected devices. radio commands nearly 12 hours .f our weekly media diet that's capitalizing on opportunities knowing who is listening to what when. the news format remains the most popular genre. does that surprise you at all? no. no, i thinkuest: radio is very important -- powerful stuff. you can get battery operated radios that you hang in your shower. people listen to the radio, you're moving around the house, doing things -- host: but certainly the radio's death has been pronounced multiple times during your career? guest: yeah, yeah. dyingot dead and it ain't . were doing well. we are also simulcast as tv on free speech but we have a live stream on twitter and facebook we youtube and on youtube have got -- i don't remember the numbers. on yourat time are you national syndicated show? guest: new into three eastern. host: great. thom hartmann our guest until 10:00 eastern. this is stephen on the democrats line. guest: hey, stephen. caller: good morning. i would like to thank thom for being on the air. he cleansed the palette of the last guy you had on. i listen to him in chicago. the rush limbaugh stuff, i apologize -- i will go and pushesto him and he just all of this stuff onto liberal like we hate america and we are these old is actually white guys who stamp their feet and threw a tantrum because they cannot stand the changes happening in america. i guess that about wraps that up, so thank you. guest: thank you, steve. host: go ahead. that's fine. guest: just, sadly, one of the memes that is sold on talk radio -- i got an emailed this morning from donald trump. i gave him five dollars during the primary in 2015 and i have been getting 10 emails a day ever since. i got a fund-raising emailed today. it started right out "liberals hate you." we are going to end up like cuba and mostly they just hate you. and -- at least once a week i getting email from truck -- is behind your idea of giving him five dollars during the primaries? guest: i do that typically with everyr five candidates four years just to get on their email list and see what they are saying. host: and never get off, i guess, right? guest: it provides good raw material for the show. sometimes these emails i get are just outrageous and ever since the election, they all point to rush limbaugh -- two donald slush fund that he has now raised, what? $400 million for for his was presidency -- post-presidency? host: maryland, republican line. good morning. i will not listen to anybody who calls me a racist, sexist homophobe. i get into plenty of arguments with my liberal neighbors are thet various things and second they disagree with me i am one of those labels. the reason i listen to rush limbaugh, i love his sense of humor and i'm going to tell you a story about what happened to me because i listen to rush limbaugh. in 1993 my liberal wife could not stand me even listening to him even with headphones. she gave me an ultimatum. it was either her, the marriage, or rush limbaugh. i chose rush limbaugh, because i want my freedom of speech and freedom of thought. i don't need to be told he is a bad individual. what of the funniest things he ever did was, for me, as a blind person, he was talking about somebody wanting to do a movie called "dumpster diving." he said why don't you take that money and open up more soup kitchens and help the homeless that way instead of making a movie? host: victor in silver spring. thom hartmann, any comment? guest: i listen to rush limbaugh from time to time, to your will. i think he's a very, very talented guy. i disagree with his politics. i respect him. , i other guy i listen to have not had an opportunity so michael savage. michael savage and rush limbaugh. big problem. i am not sure why my computer is making that noise. host: go ahead. guest: i don't think it's on my end. it must've been something else. host: you were talking about michael savage. guest: they get talk radio in this is the problem we had with air america. there were three professionals. the people who put the thing together, you would have people like al franken's show where he would sit around interviewing people. that's not talk radio. talking not to an audience -- i am talking to one person. of one person.ng if i thought about how big the and rush limbaugh is brilliant at that. o you listen to npr's talkshows? guest: i haven't listened to lived in d.c.ce i -- i used to listen to tavis smiley and diane lane. diet -- diane rehm. diane is no longer on the air now. they were hitting a lot of buttons. by a large him pr does not do interviews and news. i do listen to the news in the morning to catch up. host: on our democrats line, we have nina. good morning. caller: good morning. hartmann.ng, mr. show on freenly speech i watch. it seems like you are more fair than the other host. you take calls the matter who was to talk. i wanted -- wants to talk. are we ever going to get a president that is not so old that has regressive and middle-of-the-road ideas and what you think about that? thank you and thank you for your show. guest: thank you. thank you for your kind comments. i'm very optimistic about the future. i think what trump has shown us are the places where we have relied onlly andition rather than law now it's time to put those things into law. we had a similar experience in the 1930's. george washington said he would not vote for a third term, i don't think it is appropriate. everyone has honored that. ipublicans went crazy and forget the year, but within a decade or 20, the next time the gop got control of the house and a it, they passed constitutional amendment saying you can only have two terms as president. they tried to repeal that, by the way, in the last year of the reagan presidency, but it was not successful. but that's an example of putting , into law.d policy what trump has done is break so many norms that i think a lot of things, particularly around dividing independence to the justice department, need to be fixed. in terms of what that means for president who is more reasonable ,nd reaches across the aisle i've a lot of hope for kamala harris. she has surrounded herself with really good people. she's really, really bright. i am hopeful she will walk in as president of the senate, push aside mitch mcconnell in early january. time will tell. that is tradition. the constitution says she will be president of the senate, which is a whole other conversation, but the fact that these conversations are happening is encouraging and joe is taking positions now that are -- you might call them progressive, they are considered normal and every other developed country in the world. we are literally the only developed country on earth out oecd countries, we are the only one where anybody has lost their health care because of this virus, where they lost their job. we are literally the only country in the world that doesn't say that health care is a right for all people. we are also the only country among all developed countries were student debt is any kind of a consequential thing. student$1.5 trillion in debt in this country right now. by coincidence, the exact amount donald trump and the republicans gave to the billionaire class in the giant tax cut in 2017, and the average age of home ownership has gone from 29 in the 1970's when we bought our first house in our late 20's, it has gone from 29 to 44. it's mostly because of student debt. you have an entire generation hobbled by this. that literally does not exist in any other developed country in the world. in denmark, they pay you $500 a month to go to college. in germany, they give you a stipend to go to college. these physicians in an american dialogue appear to be presented -- physicians in american dialogue that appear to be presented as radical, lefties stuff are normal. they are just normal. think -- i still have to make this point and i will talk it back. i am sorry if i'm talking too long here. this point that there is a radical left in america is -- i just find very, very strange. i used to call myself the radical middle because on one the, i decided to get on resident of the communist party of the united states. that's the radical left. they believe the government should on every company. blue jeans should be made by the government, my computer should be made by the government. i don't agree with that at all. i got the president of the cp usa on the program and he said, how is communism doing? we are growing like weeds. i said, really. he said, i think we are up to 620 members now. this whole idea of radical left or that we are making sure that police don't kill black people or that police are seen as evenhanded when it comes to race or neighborhood or class -- how did that become radical or even left?d -- even i don't get it. or i do get it. there are right host: this is thomas from the republican line. caller: what we need to talk about is a new talent for you have tooecause many people looking at it. i think that it should be, you put social security at the top of the card and you send two to the people, democrat and republican, social security at the top. itn they go down to shoot, it's stacked up right and left pretty keep the democrats on the right and they go in one building. and then the television could watch it. the television will tell the public that is going on it if anybody wants to challenge it, you bring in people who are organized to see if the machine is cricket or not. ann this way you can have honest ballot and get rid of all of the people looking at it. when you take your money to the bank, are they going to count it? host: just broadly, thomas, thom hartman, your thoughts on the postelection challenges to the win? guest: i have been a fan of paper ballots forever. i never thought we should have gotten into the territory that of voting that is owned by private companies. agree, and i think that the things that we all collectively known in this country are clearly the government. we all own the government, we tell them what to do through the vote, and the government administers the public lands and the quality of air and water in the public schools, then the isimate part of the commons our vote, the beating heart of democracy. a man's voteway you reduce him to slavery. the vote should never be given to a private corporation. that part should never have been privatized which is what we did in 2000 two. i think people should be voting on paper. i live in oregon, for over 20 years we vote on paper here. six weeks before the election i book, eight and a newsprint kind of book, with all of the candidates, if there is a judge i do not know. we sit down at the table in google them and figure out who they are. we can see when the ballot gets received by the state and see if it it's counted by the state or if it was reject did. then i can go down to the office and show them my id. oregon has among the highest participation in voting in the nation. now we have five states, utah, oregon, washington, colorado and hawaii are all doing this. free, not that there is really any voting fraud out there. they found that one guy in pennsylvania who registered his dead mother and then voted for donald trump. texas,rick, down in offered $1 million reward for anyone to find voter freud -- fraud. the courts saying show us one example where you can show this happened, and that trump administration has been unable to. pennsylvania is now saying we got this one guy. to rush limbaugh for a second, he recently, on his program, he said touting efforts to subvert the election, he bemoans that that trick seat supporters are coming across as --trump supporters are coming across as kooks. in two thousand four, we were wondering if ken blackwell was up to shenanigans in ohio with the john kerry election, so this is not unique. we have never had a president, a leader of the party, in the case of 2000, it would've been al gore, in two thousand four, john kerry, who said to the american people, do not trust the election system. we have that right now. regardless of politics, i think that is really dangerous. host: john is calling from ohio. mythr: i think there is a that the right ring that dominates the media in this country, that they are the underdog. if you examine the number of right wing stations, they number over 1000, dominated by right s, just clearw host' out to the horizon. they spent a good part of their time saying they are the underdog and it is all liberal media. i think i hear that kind of line parroted by millions of people that they are misleading, but if you look at some of the real they do not hardly exist anywhere in the media like global research or information clearinghouse. leftistht be considered . but they are completely censored from the media. you'll never hear any of their accredited historians, any of the media completely censored by google, facebook and twitter owned by these billionaires who are collaborating with the state department to censor the left. i think it is a tactic that these right wing talk show host used to portray themselves as the underdog. host: we will get a response. guest: one of the things that politicians and talk show host try toways done is create a david and goliath story. you know, i am the underdog, the perky underdog trying to climb up against this mountain in the system is rigged against us. i'm not such a fan of that rhetoric. i do not generally get into it. , globale a few examples research, actually they do some iconoclastic you might say. withnot so concerned censorship as i am just with the consolidation. published, the media is one of the biggest monopolies. the result of that is competent progressive voices, and i'm not the only one, there are a lot of good ones out there, who could beat making money for radio balance and providing on the airwaves, are not on because you have corporations, a couple of these companies, and i just shared those stories with you. putting their own ahead of whatever, what i think is the public good. i think we need to have these dialogues. i will leave it at that. topic, there was a piece about monopolies particularly about the big cap there wasmpanies, and a report out of the hearing with some of the big tech leaders. american democracy has always been at war against monopolies, and it was noted that big tech platforms like the trust of the toded age enjoy the power pick winners and losers, shake down small businesses, and their ability to call the shots up and entire sectors in inspire fear and represent the powers of a private government. your thoughts. guest: there is something to that. europe is taking on a spec and google right now and sniffing around apple for those kinds of things. year.ot recall the i think it was before trump became president, but just before. google stopped indexing a couple of left-wing sites. they had pretty rigorous fact checkers, alternet did. as result, these were left-wing websites that were supported by advertising, and their traffic down so badly they ended up, the group that owned it, ended up selling it. they basically threatened to put them out of business and that was true of several of the left-wing sites. at the same time there were some right-wing sites, to the extent they were offering opinion, or --were doing that just as much as alternet was. but they got elevated into the newsfeed and the left-wing sites got promoted out of it. media matters did several stories on this back in the day. that concerned me. it continues to concern me. it certainly appears like political bias driving decisions in search engines. you hear things like that about facebook also. think we need some oversight. i am very wary. colleagues' wariness of the government making these decisions. i do not want any government deciding what i should say on the air. or what news agency should be considered acceptable or unacceptable. it concerns me tremendously. i think the core problem is not censorship or google deciding , you know,want to spider alternet. the problem is the concentration companiesds of four of well over 90% of the social media, in the hands of a half-dozen companies. most of the news, the concentration and the ownership of radio stations, mostly in three companies, and television stations, two or three. these are the things that lead to these kinds of disequilibrium. host: this is bill from virginia on the democrat line. go ahead. i tuned in when you were .alking about radio talk shows whether thereg was something indicating by the radio station itself that they are not responsible for what is being said on a particular show. is there such a thing? but wheney used to be, we listen to the radio years ago, they would say we are not responsible for what is being said. now you are talking about the problem with the election result. simply too much money and politicalower in the system in this country. topic inisit his first terms of what people can say on the air and what they can't. what are you mindful of in terms of the content you allow and that you are mindful of how people address issues or how they address you and each other? guest: we are on broadcast stations and every year or two the fcc is supposed to evaluate stations in each station has to keep a public file which is where members of the community can complain about the station. years, those complaints are almost exclusively about obscenity on the air. as aical content legitimate complaint to take over the license of a radio station, i have not seen any indication of that in decades. censored.el i do not want to be censored, but i definitely don't want the government getting into this censoring. i'm not sure if i answered the question. host: we will go to edward from new jersey, on the independent line. caller: thank you. i have an authorization -- observation. has there been any research as to how the brain reacts to the radio? it starts out light and jovial in the morning and then as it progresses through the day, it eecelerates into vil propaganda. i was wondering if there was any research into the psychological manipulation? guest: i don't know about research. when i was with air america i was working here in portland on a clear channel station, the progressive affiliate here. the guy who programmed it was just a genius. was, and id me believe him to be --this comports with all of my experience. he told me in the morning that is the most routine time of day for people. , and on not fully awake a morning program they want the same people at the same time, the same news. throughout the morning you can bigger issuesto and kind of start the day, and then in the afternoon people are looking for a closure, for conclusions, what happened during the day and what does it mean? so if you put those conversations on radio into that kind of frame and in the evening people are willing to speculate, aboutu find the programs ufos. it makes a certain amount of sense. it tracks human behavior and the rhythms of our lives. i don't see it as pernicious. the pernicious part would be whatever the contact is in those slots. host: who did you listen to on the radio when you were growing up? guest: kevin mccarthy, for years. host: this is ron from michigan. praised savage and he is banned in england because he portraysm, and that on his show especially when he likes to attack president obama. and you like to praise rush limbaugh. i remember when show where he said when clinton was the president, he said somebody should crash a plane into the white house. a few days later, that happened. he preaches hate and violence against left-wing people, and for you to praise him, i think you are doing a disservice. thatou also like to praise not shell with the flying saucers at night. limbaugh goesthat out with, he portrays it in the middle of the night. you're listening habits are kind of screwed up in my opinion. i went to vietnam to fight in the war and i'm still fighting that war, you understand? guest: i do. i don't broadly disagree with you and your analysis of my colleagues. my point was that what they are saying is good. my point was these guys have been able to catch an audience and hold it for decades because they understand the dynamic of talk radio. the reason why al franken otherled or some of the --you see this more on the left than the right. it is rare on the right that you listen to talk shows where they just sit and talk to guests for hours. if you --you can find that a lot on the left. it does not work. it does not work in radio. what i was pointing out was the , the talent in the context of the communications of these men. it israel. -- it is real. they are using that talent to spread hate and racism, and i call that out regularly. i think until lefties start looking at people like limbaugh cansavage and saying what we learn from how they are using this medium, and i'm not talking about how do we like to spread hate, that is part of their message, but it is a small part. the biggest part is we are a tribe. it is community. .hey are selling community progressive radio hosts or people who want to be progressive radio hosts need to figure that out. host: you wrote about this in youration last week, and piece was about talk radio, emigrants can't win if they do not play. what should they be doing? guest: i think democrats need to take this seriously. during the george w. bush administration, i believe it was every dear -- every year, he hosts frome talkshow all over the country to come to the white house and broadcast from the lawn or from inside the white house. he was frequently on these shows as was dick cheney, particularly when they were selling the war. they made use of the conservative infrastructure out there, and they continue to. that infrastructure, politics in the united states are typically decided around the margins. if you can swing the electric about three percent in one direction or another, you can win a lot of elections. talk radio has provided that edge for republicans for the better part of 20 years. on the democratic side what i was saying was big democratic spend a every two they billion dollars in ever four years spends 2 billion dollars and this year probably three on advertising. advertising is never as effective as listening to a voice that you know and trust. advertising all day a equals b, but as long as the people hearing those advertisements are also hearing lesh -- limbaugh, it will never be effective. start telling your donors who are coming up with this billion dollars every two years, for a few million they can radio stations. there's not one corner of america where you cannot get in your car and find a right wing hate radio. inflammatory here, but i think of it as right-wing hate radio. there is not a place in the country you cannot find that. and only 10% of the country can you find progressive talk radio. .ost: a few more calls this is from lakeland, florida, from that republican line. i got two questions, one is why do all of those other netflix --networks have all those lashing lights. you don't have that. why do those other networks put all of those flashing lights behind people? and the other thing, i have been diverted at times when i call in. is there somebody manipulating ?he callers calls orbody divert my do they manipulate people calling in? but the lights in the diverted calls, could you respond to that. host: we don't have flashing lights. we are just a pretty straightforward operation. thom hartman, do you want to address the diverted calls issue? the diverted calls, i am not sure what kino is talking about. her criteriaener, is are they abusive or drunk, otherwise they are not going on the air. if they are remotely on-topic, they will be on air. calls in every couple of weeks, and it is great to hear from a republican who wants to see this country in better shape. sometimes we disagree and sometimes we agree, but i have a lot of --respect for any republican who calls in. caller: i am a big fan of "washington journal." show on tv.eatest i love it. i had two questions i wanted to ask. station, i listen to you out of chicago. please keep it up. you,uestion i want to ask chicago,station out of they reported a couple of reddish economists did a study of trickle-down economics, and they concluded that it was a fraud, it only benefits the rich. guest: that was widely published. caller: i haven't seen it on network news or i have not heard anybody else talk about it. sayfor them to come out to that it only works for the rich. i am a littleng, pessimistic about what is going to happen in this country. years, we knowr exactly who donald trump is, and i feel he is a racist. compulsively. he cannot help it. he lacks empathy. and i think he is a russian agent. in spite of all of that 74 million people voted for him. i wonder if the division in this country is so great, it can never be healed. biden will calm down the rhetoric, but i do not know if we can stay as united states of america. host: thank you for your input. my biggest concern is the power of facebook frankly to influence the middle america average people who are just going on to check out what their family is up to. there is a lot of people who voted for donald trump, not because they are racist, but because they are catholics or evangelicals who are opposed to abortion, and people who are afraid democrats will take away their assault weapons. there's a lot of single issue voters in this country frankly. are -- white racism is a huge problem here. our country was founded on it and something we have to deal with. host: this is nancy from los angeles on the democrat line. caller: good morning. i listen to your show whenever i can and like the previous color i listen to stephanie miller every morning. why have people like michael bloomberg not bought radio stations? that is been a puzzle to me. do you know the answer? guest: that is why i wrote that may two that article weeks ago. not been on it is the radar. i think the prevailing notion among wealthy liberals is that america, so-- air end of experiment. two things happen, mitt romney's company had acquired clear channel and almost all of our stations were clear channel stations and they dropped us. and the total bankruptcy, the total debt air america had accumulated, brit hume tells the story about how rupert murdoch lost 100 mahon dollars a year for five years before he made a penny on fox news. if air america is guilty of anything, it was being undercapitalized. .hat is why i wrote that op-ed i think it is important that we communicate that message to progressive donors, even if if buy a local station in wichita, kansas, you can influence. from that is raj republican line. i guess i never heard of your show, but it looks interesting, so i will look you up. i guess you compare you talk about the radio show or the by the samebut media there is tv pretty much dominated by liberals. one of the earlier callers mentioned that rush limbaugh is spreading the hate, that goes both ways. i am sure you agree. guest: how many right-wing television networks are there? there is fox, on american news, newsmax, i can get those three on my tv here. what are the left-wing channels? , there is a republican host in the morning, and there midday, ande they've got one in the evening. i am not sure i would call that a progressive network. the one progressive network i note is free speech television and i am on it. it is not on a lot of cable systems. i think your analysis of the media is off. host: does the radio show run live on tv at the same time? like the is simulcast, one out of new york that started years ago. host: great to have you with this and hope you come back. thom hartman joining us this morning. thank you so much. that will do it for us on this sunday morning but we are back as always tomorrow morning. we start at seven :00 a.m. eastern and hope you will join us then. have a great sunday. 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