Ms. Bradshaw thank you very much. Back and the next person to speak for us would be laura coxe. I see you. Waiting to see if you get on muted. Please spell your first and last the floor is yours. Cox. Name is laura thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak to you this afternoon. I am asking you to delay certification. There are too many questions that need to be answered, too many numerical anomalies and credible reports of procedure irregularities. Distrust. Remove the this vote will be certified and the will of the people will be upheld but we need to ensure that there is a fair and accurate vote first. This election had its issues and every step of the process has been stacked against republicans, starting with the challenger process. Every election they find credentials for thousands of republicans to volunteer to observe and challenge the. Lection counting process this year i was honored to perform that duty and thousands showed up across the state. Electionity of Election Officials treated all challengers regardless of party with dignity and respect and let them participate meaningfully in the process. One location in one jurisdiction stood out above all others being inhospitable and hostile to republican challenges. From the moment early today, the reaction from the secretary of state, the attorney general and partners and democrats have been antagonistic, belligerent, and disrespectful. I appreciate the hard work of Election Officials but i also will not let republican challengers be disrespected and shoved out of the process. Last week, the wayne county board of canvassers noted significant problems with the election counting process across the county. When republican canvassers asked the state to take a little more time to investigate, they were treated again with hostility and intimidation. Rather than treat those threats seriously, many democrat elected officials looked to further intimidate and threaten these officials. Election after election, we have had the same issues. We certify and then forget until the next election. If folks are proud of the 71 out of balance count in our Largest Community in the state, then we have very different ideas. This is why i implore the board of canvassers to provide meaningful review of wayne county. In the future, i would ask this board to do three things first, please use your platform to ensure that all challengers and participants in the election process are treated equally regardless of their party. Second, please use your platform to end all threats and intimidation to republicans and all parties. All deserve to have an election with integrity where every legal vote is counted. Third, please demand more from the election counting process so all questions can be answered to ensure fair and accurate votes. I ask you to do that today. I will continue to stand up for republicans and demand they be respected and i will demand a meaningful review of the vote for the people of michigan. Thank you, madam chair. Thank you very much. Are there questions . From the Board Members . Thank you very much ok. You have been around for a awhile, your husband, too. You heard testimony from some of the witnesses. That we have no choice today. That we have no power to order an audit even when it appears to be in conflict with the language specifically the testimony earlier today. Do you have any comments on that . I believe we have the opportunity to request a review, a meaningful review. We need to look at the wayne county results and i think you have time and the safe harbor limit dates can make that happen and so i believe that should happen. Ms. Bradshaw any further questions . Thank you very much. I hope you have a great day. Next one, and if i mispronounce names, im going to try my best charles the attorney for john james . Hello. Can you hear us . I can. State and spell your first and last name and the floor is yours. Charles spies. I represent the john james for u. S. Senate campaign. Lets start by taking some issues off the table here and perhaps that will let us dial down the hysteria and strawman arguments. First of all, democracy is not dying and our position is not that this election should not be certified. So all the rhetoric, legal arguments and, unfortunately, even threats from Public Officials about the board having to certify are not relevant here. Those are strawmen. Our position is the board should, perhaps even must certify, but it should only do that when it is confident the results that it is certifying are accurate. By definition, and i am talking websters, certification means to atest as being true. This board has not only the ability but the obligation to do everything in your power to confirm the results you are certifying is true. The vice chairman is correct that you are limited to the review of returns, but nobody has presented Legal Authority to say you cannot conduct an audit or independent review of wayne countys canvas to determine the accuracy of those returns that you have in front of you and you are being asked to sign and attest to as being true. Im not aware of and nobody has presented any court cases limiting such authority for you in the context of an election canvas. You also have time to get this certification of accurate results right. Michigan law mca1488321 requires you to meet today for the purpose of canvassing and determining the results of the election. The law does not, however, require the statewide can this be certified in the same timeframe. 842 one expressly grants you as part of your role to determine the results of the election the power to adjourn from time to time or other necessary purposes. So as long as you complete the canvas and announce your determination no later than the 40th day after the election, you are in full compliance with the law. We are asking you to comply with the law and use the powers granted to you to do what secretary of state benson has refused to do and take up the bipartisan cry from wayne county for an audit or some sort of precertification review of the results, specifically of the out of balance precincts in detroit. As recently as seven days ago, there was bipartisan outrage about the Election Administration catastrophe i am using the lieutenant governors expression there the catastrophe in detroit. If we use the way back machine to go to august of this year, 72 of detroits precincts were out of balance and the board of canvassers was outraged and passed a unanimous bipartisan resolution requesting the States Election monitor as an investigation as well as asking secretary of state benson to appoint someone to oversee it. He vowed we cannot have a recurrence of these problems in november. Now comes the november general election and while we, the james campaign, other nonpartisan groups and republicans have presented volume us applications of problems, im going to follow the metric on whether there is a problem that needs to be audited whether there is an out of balance percentage of precincts. In august that number was 72 and democrats, as well as republicans, demanded an investigation to fix the problem. The problem wasnt fixed. The wayne county canvas showed that over 70 of av precinct in detroit were out of balance yet again. As an aside, please dont be distracted by the directors braters attempt to cover up his secretary bensons in action by changing the statistical reference for success in detroit. Hes talking about new statistics about not quite as out of balance as before and possibly recountable. Which apparently shows some improvement. But they are not relevant to a problem everyone has agreed to focus on for the past few months. Unfortunately, the wayne county canvas last week shows over 70 of a. V. Precincts in detroit were once again out of balance. As a result of this problem, the wayne county board again asked you for help, passing a resolution demanding a comprehensive audit of all unexplained precincts in wayne county. This resolution was introduced by the democrat vice chairman of the board and gained unanimous bipartisan approval. The question before you now is whether you ignore that request and simply certify something you know to be wrong or if you take the common sense approach of adjourning this meeting for the necessary purpose of calling an audit or call it a review, whatever you need to collect call it so the postcertification audit statute is not applicable, but we expect you to do something to get a grasp on what happened in wayne county so you are certain of the accuracy of what you are certifying. This can be done quickly. Georgia did a full hand recount in a week. There is no reason this cant be completed before the first of december 8 deadline to submit to michigan electors. The people you heard from today were involved in the process as implicated here, and while i respect them all and appreciate their hard work, they have vested interest in defending their actions. The review we are requesting you conduct should be overseen by independent senior statesmen, perhaps senator joe lieberman, who, upon completion will either instill confidence in wayne countys results or, if problems are identified, can certify the correct results by december 8, but also leave us with a roadmap for future reforms. Thank you for your attention. Any questions from the Board Members . Vice chair. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Mr. Van langevelde you would agree with me that this board only has the duties and powers given to it by law. We only have powers the law provides. The law regarding certification gives us a clear duty, doesnt it . Can you clarify what duty you are referring to . Mr. Van langevelde the law says the board of canvassers says the board should canvas the returns and determine the election and that is what our job is here today, canvassing the returns that have been certified by the counties, right . Yes, mr. Vicechairman. The accuracy of those results. Mr. Van langevelde i have had a pretty good chance to look at the laws the last few days as you can imagine, and there is nothing in the law that gives me the authority and, correct me if im wrong, theres nothing in the law giving me authority to request an audit as part of the certification process, correct . Nothing expressly gives you that authority and nothing expressly says you cannot do it. That if you take the rubberstamp approach that you are not allowed to have any discretion, that makes your job meaningless. They might as well just send the paperwork to the secretary of state and have her stamp it with a stamp. I dont believe that is why you are there. I believe you and the members of this board are smart people who want to make sure what you are certifying is accurate and that is consistent with the language of the statute. Mr. Van langevelde i mean again, we only have the power of the duties given to us by law. I have reviewed the law here. It is not complicated. Its very simple. We are required to canvas the returns and determine the results. I reviewed every section. I havent found anything about an audit, nothing about authorities for us to delay certification because we are waiting for more accurate results. I found nothing about making the certification contingent on an audit. I have found nothing that gives us the authority to review complaints of fraud. I think the law is pretty clear here and this board has such limited authority. I dont see anything where we are given the authority to act as a court or prosecutorial agency. We are just a board tasked with reviewing these returns and certifying them. Am i wrong . Yes, mr. Vice chair, you are wrong. I respectfully suggest you look at 1688421 which requires you to ascertain and determine the result of an election. That is the language of the statute. You have the power mr. Van langevelde based on these returns and nothing else. I reviewed all the other sections and theres nothing that mentions an audit, nothing mentioning a review. It is to ascertain the results of an election based on these returns from the counties. Theres nothing else in the law that says we can do otherwise. Mr. Vicechairman, in order to make your argument, you have to ignore what i just read to you, the language of the statute and add some language based on the result of the returns, you added that language that is not in the statute. I suggest that you have the ability to ascertain and determine the results of the election and that is consistent with the provision giving you the right to abstain and take the time for any necessary actions to help you determine that. There would be no reason to have that provision for extra time if you were just a rubberstamp. Mr. Van langevelde again, there is nothing in the law that says we have the authority to do the things you have requested. Correct . I respectfully disagree. I just read you the section that says your job is to ascertain and determine the results of an election. There is nothing that restricts your ability to do that. Mr. Van langevelde it does determine the results of the election. Based on those returns, theres nothing else in the law. We can agree to disagree but i think the laws on my side here. Our duty is very simple and it is a duty. We have no authority to request an audit, to delay or block certification, to review inaccuracies that happened at the local level. Those are the results we certified. Our duty is to look at the results, look at the math and certify. The statute could not be more clear. I respectfully suggest if you believe those results are accurate in front of you, then your position make sense. If you, however, like the wayne county board of canvassers, and like this board just a few months ago in august, think that it is a problem to have over 70 of a. V. Precincts out of balance then those results in front of you are not necessarily accurate accurate and you have, not only the ability, but duty to look at what we are certifying is accurate. Mr. Van langevelde im going to have to respectfully disagree on that because i find no language in the law saying that all. I will agree we have the ability to adjourn, but we cannot create out of thin air an adjournment. We have to have some authority to adjourn and theres nothing here in the law that im finding where we have the authority to say we are going to delay for an audit again. Well delay to conduct a review of the elections. We do not have that authority at all. I think we may respectfully disagree again. I would refer you to 1688421 which specifically says you have the power to adjourn from time to time for necessary purposes. If you believe it is necessary, in your role as certifying the accuracy of the results for there to be additional time to look into what happened in wayne county, then the statute applies. Mr. Van langevelde we cannot create that necessity out of thin air. We have to have Legal Authority to do it. I consider the statute to be authority. Ms. Bradshaw do you have any further questions . Thank you very much, mr. Spies. Thank you. Ms. Bradshaw i just want to make sure we have city clerk janice humphrey. We will bring up detroit city clerk janice humphrey. I see you are still on mute. Hello . Ms. Bradshaw if you could state and spell your first and last name, the floor is yours. Janice winfrey, detroit city clerk. Just to let you know, i cannot be here long. I am not working. I have a medical situation i am dealing with, but i do want to allow the opportunity or have the opportunity to remind people that the Detroit Department of elections, the detroit city clerk, and the office is a nonpartisan entity. My charge is to administer the election process, ensure voters know when election day is, and ensure they know where they go and vote on election day. Doing so we have done everything to ensure our process is open, that our process is transparent, and is administered in the spirit of professionalism. To that end, during the pandemic where detroit went through great where detroit was considered a hot spot, we went through great measures to recruit and hire poll workers that were off work due to them being furloughed. We had a different level, professional level of coworkers. We extended training significantly. All of our supervisors were trained eight hours for three days, and im talking across the board as it relates to our poll workers. We allowed our poll workers to work in shifts so they would not be as tired, so they would not have to work 18, 20, 24 hours days and we implemented the epollbook to ensure poll workers dont have two copy information down but can hit the scan and the information is uploaded to ensure accuracy. We do all of this so we can eliminate as much human error as possible. But as humans, we all make mistakes. Please raise your hand if you have never made one. We all make mistakes and to that end, if our law would allow for human error, therefore being able to recount every ballot every time, upon request, we would not have to have these long deliberations to do your ministerial act of certifying the canvas of the counties. We wouldnt have this if only our laws were reflected of errors that humans make. The only way you will have purity of the processes by allowing for a recount of every canvasser upon request regardless of whether someone made a mistake or not. Thats all i wanted to say. Thank you for the opportunity and i appreciate the work you all do. Ms. Bradshaw are there questions from the Board Members . Mr. Shinkle . Mr. Shinkle we had a phone conversation a couple of weeks after the august primary. Yes, sir. Mr. Shinkle one of the topics that came up was having a republican and democrat at each poll pursuant to state law. Mr. Baxter testified earlier today that he cant find republicans to hire is what i put in my notes. He said no republicans applied. I have a list of 50 to 100 that did apply and were told, we are full. My information is contrary to mr. Baxters testimony and you are right in the middle of saying apply on the website. Did you have enough republicans apply to be poll workers . To answer your question, mr. Baxter was incorrect if he said we couldnt find any. We did have republican poll workers and we did reach out. Was it difficult . Yes. But after we got the word out, republican poll workers began to apply, apply, apply. We had a great number of them. I dont know the exact number by heart, but we had quite a few. However, we did have to turn away poll workers, regardless if it was too late when they responded and that is what happened a lot of times. The training process is extensive and quite involved and i have many because they text me or send me an email, so i have every last one of them and it was two weeks and less until election day, not enough time to properly train and hire and bring them up to work. So those poll workers go ahead, im sorry. Mr. Shinkle i was going to say, the list of people i had that applied that were republicans, you say most of them applied to late. And there were people informally asking the different accounting tables, many republicans at this table, the response was when you find one send them over. The accounting tables did not think they had any republicans. What you are saying right now is you had one republican in every precinct in detroit. Is that what you are telling me . Ms. Humphrey that is not what i said. I said that we had republicans that worked with us. And we did have some at the precincts. How many at each precinct, i dont have that information before me. Im just leaving the hospital. I didnt even know i was going to have to do this. I wasnt supposed to have to do this. I have a dire medical emergency i am dealing with in my home. So excuse me that im not prepared with the numbers, but i am not saying we had one at each counting board. I am not saying we had one in each precinct, but i am saying we did we hired a significant number of republican poll workers, those that applied in a timely fashion, just like any other Political Party that applied in a timely fashion, we hired them, we trained them, and we assigned them to their precinct. But you will find often times people are not willing to admit in front of crowds of people what their Political Party is and that is their business. Mr. Shinkle the law requires you to hire a republican per precinct. Do you believe the law was followed . Ms. Humphrey i can tell you this we did everything in our power to ensure that requirement was met. And let me say this to you. This election was not special for us. We ensure that for every election every time. When i go to the precinct and see the poll workers, i thank them all. The ones that came from ann arbor, the ones that came from lavonia, i dont know their Political Party and at that time i dont care. Im grateful they decided to work with us, go through the training, and be a part of this process. Mr. Shinkle on your application, when someone applies to be a precinct worker, they put down what party they affiliate with, is that true . Ms. Humphrey yes. Some of them excuse me i did not finish the answer. Yes, that question is on there. Some people market off and others do not. Mr. Shinkle if they do not mark it off, they are not a republican or a democrat. Ms. Humphrey i dont say that. I just say they didnt answer the question. That doesnt mean we cannot hire them. Mr. Shinkle you can hire them, but they dont fill the slot as the republican for the precinct then. Any other questions . Thank you for joining us. I hope everything is ok. Ms. Humphrey thank you. I appreciate you all. Stay safe and happy holidays. We are going to mary ellen, the attorney for joe biden. [no audio] ms. Bradshaw give us a few more moments. Just a moment. Thank you again for everyone who is joining us today for our michigan board of state canvassers meeting. [no audio] i do not have my microphone on. I hope that you could hear all of that. I apologize. Were going to bring Monica Palmer, chair of the wayne county board forward. Ms. Palmer good afternoon. I was just on the call to answer questions. I do not have any additional statements. You saw what happened at our board of canvassers meeting. I have my affidavit. Ms. Bradshaw i do need you to state your first and last name. Ms. Palmer Monica Palmer. Ms. Bradshaw i know that the board member had a question for you. Board member sheinkle had a question for you. Mr. Sheinkle we talked on the phone months ago, and i saw your affidavit that you filed. I will start by asking, during deadline in wayne county you had a tie so that the motion was defeated. Is that correct . That is correct. Mr. Shinkle after that there was Public Comment taken. Tell me what happened to cause you to go back and to have another motion made. Ms. Palmer the vice chair pulled me aside and offer the suggestion of an audit on the unexplained ballots from the precint. In the heat of the moment, i should have realized that the law does not allow for that audit to happen before your certification. Unfortunately, i did not put the two together in the stress of the moment. And get a good faith effort of relying on the information that the vice chair gave me, we move forward with the motion. It is my understanding that with an independent audit we would be able to find the information we did not have. That the solution would set aside what we needed to certify satisfy what we needed to certify the candidates. If i had been more on my feet and realized that the audit could not be completed, i would not have voted for that motion. Mr. Shinkle when your vice chair counterpart suggested an audit did he say that he had , conversations with anybody who would do the audit . Ms. Palmer he said he had confirmation from Governor Whitmer that the audit would take place. Mr. Shinkle do you have the minutes from the meeting last tuesday . Ms. Palmer i received them shortly before this begin. Mr. Shinkle are they accurate in your opinion . Ms. Palmer i have not had a chance to review the entire document. Mr. Shinkle do you recall as part of the motion to certify that someone made a motion to reconsider the vote by which certification failed before they made the motion to certify . Ms. Palmer no, there was no motion to reconsider. Mr. Shinkle are you mandated to be guided by roberts rules of order . Ms. Palmer my understanding after doing research is that there is no distinction of what rules we need to use. Upon further review, i believe if i was going to bring that up, it would have been done at the time. Mr. Shinkle my last question is i dont know about my democratic colleagues, but aaron and i have received a few comments, outright threats, nasty emails, telling me my family is at risk. I had one person suggest that you have to vote yes to certify for the safety of your family. We have been through that. I think you and mr. Hartman went through the same type of thing. Tell us about what you went through. Lots of Public Comment with harsh words. There was a state repelect who brought up my daughter and on Public Comment listed what town i live in and what school my daughter goes to. I have received Text Messages with Graphic Photos of naked, dead women and a photo of my daughter letting me know that that is what will happen to my daughter. Calling me a terrorist. Saying my entire family should be fearful for their lives. Mr. Shinkle okay. Sounds like more graphic than i was prepared to go. I wasnt that graphic. No one send any pictures of my family. Mr. Hartman i assume would say similar things. Did these threats impact your decisionmaking process in any way . Ms. Palmer the two hours of Public Comment did throw me for a loop. With the conversation with the vice chair, had i had my wits about me, i would have realized the offer of the audit was not going to get us to where we needed to be to have the answers on the unexplained balances. During that canvas, we had absentee counting boards where the number in the poll book for the voter list, did not match the number on the statement of the tabulated total. We had to receive corrected poll lists from the clerks office. Some of those did not show up until the day before the certification. I have questions as to why i was not able to review the precincts that were updated and corrected and that came out balanced, or the ones that remained unbalanced, possibly with explanation from those updated lists. Mr. Shinkle if i can interrupt you for a second. I asked mr. Baxter about those updated lists. He didnt acknowledge that. Were there supplemental lists . Ms. Palmer there was a grey tote delivered filled with manila envelopes with updated poll lists the afternoon before the certification. Mr. Shinkle im sorry to interrupt. Please finish your previous thought. Okay. Monica, thank you for coming on. Im sorry that you went through what you went through, as well as any other appointed official in the state of michigan. Its outrageous and should not occur. Our society seems to think whoever is threatened the most will win. I am done, madam chair area thank you. Ms. Bradshaw i speak on behalf of the board. I am very sorry for what you went through. It is very unfortunate and it is not appropriate at all. I want to thank you for your time for answering questions. Ms. Palmer thank you. Ms. Bradshaw i want to double check if mary ellen is on . Mary i am, i hope. Ms. Bradshaw just one moment, we are having a little bit of a technical moments. You have to start your video. Ms. Gurewitz i am trying. Ms. Bradshaw you have to hit the video box in the lower lefthand corner. Ms. Gurewitz i am trying to get video, but it is not starting. Ms. Ewitz give me bradshaw give me one second. I want to see if our Court Reporter is ok with just audio. Marcy, can you hear . And ellen, if you can start spell your first and last name. Ms. Gurewitz mary ellen gurewitz. I speak on behalf of the Michigan Democratic party. Which i am privileged to represent and as a detroiter. A twice failed candidate for u. S. Senator came to the court over the november 3, 2020 election. Latestes letter is the assault on the integrity of the election. They carried out six frivolous lawsuits. Refusing to honor the counting of ballots in detroit. They refused to order an audit of wayne county results prior to the wayne county board of certification and refused the certification of results. The other three lawsuits filed in several court were each voluntarily dismissed, yet mr. James asks this board to do with to do what the courts would not do and what this board may not do. He said that there were irregularities. And anomalies in Election Administration. Not only were these claims rejected in court, they were thoroughly examined in the press and demonstrated to be spurious. They are more than that. They are part of a racist campaign directed by soon to be former President Trump. We have large black populations, including detroit, milwaukee. Trump and his allies have made repeated and baseless assertions that the votes cast were fraudulent and illegitimate. That this is corrupt, that Election Administrators are dishonest. That they have conspired to falsify the vote count as to deprive james and trump of their success. Trump seeks to disenfranchise black voters. John james joins him. Has he no sense of decency or shame . There has been a clear and bestdered attempt illustrated by the claim that this is about unbalanced precincts. Ms. Bradshaw i apologize. We are having a bit of audio difficulty. They have a remedy for that. I believe there is a number. Ont want you to say it you can email your number to adam, then we can have you on audio with the phone. Ms. Gurewitz okay. Ms. Bradshaw hold on. Whatever you just did, we can hear you now. Ms. Gurewitz i didnt do anything. Can you hear me now . Ms. Bradshaw yes, just keep on going. You are good. I will back up a little bit and say, there has been a clear and concerted attempt to discredit the detroit Election Results illustrated by the claim that it is an unbalanced precinct. It is recognized that precincts are unbalanced all over the state and country. The lack of balance does not affect the tabulation of votes and does not impact certification. The republican efforts are motivated by the racism best illustrated by the comment of republican candidate Monica Palmer from whom you just heard. At the wayne county board of canvassers she suggested that , all countiesfied except for detroit. [indiscernible] when i say without detroit, it was obvious to the many people who spoke in that Public Comment period and it must be obvious to john james. Detroit is 80 black. Livonia is 90 white. That he has joined in these racist claims will not be forgotten. Thank you. Ms. Bradshaw is there any question . Thank you, mary ellen. I apologize that we had some technical audio issues. I appreciate your time today. Thank you very much. Ms. Gurewitz thank you for having me. I. Bradshaw Board Members, am looking at time and looking at our lists. At this point, weve talked to our election clerks and such. With permission of the board, i want to go to our three minutes, possibly two minutes, for Public Comment, unless there is any motion . I can go to two. [inaudible] ms. Bradshaw three . Okay. We will go forward. Adam, we are going to put the timer for efficiency and for anyone who is speaking, we will hold to that three minutes. When you hear that timer, i will let you know that your time is ended and we will go to our next public speaker. Lets go to the former state senator, patrick cole beck. Colbeck. Colbeck can you hear me . Ms. Bradshaw i can hear you. Mr. Colbeck thank you for the opportunity to address the state board of canvassers. Ms. Bradshaw we can hear you. For the record, please state your first and last name and then your three minutes will start. Mr. Colbeck first name patrick, last name colbeck. Thank you for this opportunity to address the Michigan State board of canvassers. The purpose of canvassers is to verify the proper results of the election. It is the form of an audit if performed with any degree of integrity. I understand that you are under tremendous peer pressure to those who falsely assert that there is no evidence of election process subversion. They seek your rubberstamp. I understand that you are under pressure from people such as myself who have taken the time to review almost 200 affidavits attesting to election process aversion impact in the integrity of election records in the city of detroit alone. We seek a substantive truly independent audit of the records independent to the chain of custody before considering the question of certification. In support of my perspective, i shared the following information. I served two terms as Michigan State senator in wayne county. I served as the vice chair of the government and elections reform committee. I am a certified microsoft Small Business specialist and familiar with Computer Network certifications. I served as a poll challenger for the Election Integrity fund at the detroit a. D. Counting board. I was physically present for 3. 5 hours at the wayne county board of canvassers meeting in detroit where i witnessed that the Election Results were not certified. In order to ensure a proper of election records has been accomplished, it is critical that there is a clear chain of custody maintained. If any link in this chain has been broken, there is no proper completion of election records, and the results of the election are not certifiable. In the interest of time, i will focus on two links in the chain of custody. I can provide evidence of many others that have been broken during this election cycle. Link number one is the qualified voter file. The michigan qualified voter file contains 8. 1 million registered voters that are our rudimentary demographics and only 7. 8 million would be of voting age. This means we have 300,000 more people on the voting rolls then we should have. In ann arbor there are 114,375 registered voters but only of voting age. The official vote results for wayne county shows zero registered voters against a tally of 172,337 votes. Breakage in this fundamental link in the chain of custody subverts the integrity of all links downstream, including the vote tally no matter how diligent county and municipal courts are. Link number two is the vote tally itself. There are issues with ethernet connections, tabulators, adjudicators and local data centers including evidence of Internet Connectivity at the detroit counting board where 172,337 votes were reported as tabulated. Ms. Bradshaw mr. Colbeck i am sorry, but your time is done and i will have to mute you. I would like to ask some questions. Mr. Colbeck, whered you go . I dont need to look at him, i suppose. But it would be nice. Mr. Colbeck, norman shinkle. Thank you. by the way, that was timed out to three mitts beforehand so i dont know when you started the clock. Mr. Shinkle it was three minutes. Senator you were talking about , your observations of where you believe a tabulator was connected to the internet. Mr. Colbeck absolutely. Mr. Shinkle this is part of the accusations against dominion which have not been brought up today. With your observations paraphrase for us what you think , was going on. Mr. Colbeck first of all people , should know that the actual dominion manual for i. T. Support staff specify an ethernet connection for the tabulators. The first question i asked chris thomas was chain of custody regarding vote tallies. I wanted to know how they would transport the vote from each of those tabulators up the chain. He said he did not know. This is the state election director for two decades. He has been promoted as a star witness for everything election related and told me he did not know the fundamental transfer transformation and chain of communication. The fact that they were networked together to the adjudicators, to the local data center, which is controlled by officials like chris thomas, and nick with dominion, is a serious concern. Even if it was not connected to the internet the local data , center controlled the vote tallies for 134 counting boards. They can modify it any way that they wanted because they have direct access to those tabulators via the central stage. They were networked together, there are physical connections. I will attest it was connected to the internet. All they had to do was walk around the terminals and you can see the Internet Connectivity icon on omma vat. When you open them up to a wideopen network like that you , breach the chain of custody. You may well have ripped off the seal of the envelope. It is the same thing that happens. You can hack into an election system in a matter of seconds. Mr. Shinkle my last question is a followup. Im sure that you brought this up. Mr. Colbeck i did. Mr. Shinkle tabulators to second locations. Did you get a satisfactory response . Mr. Colbeck i got a direct response. Daniel baxter told me point blank no, they are not connected to the internet. I went to david mason. I said all you have to do is cursorur mouse over the in the right hand corner and it will tell you, this is connected to the internet and he refused to do so and said you will have to trust me. I am sorry, the job of the poll challenger is to make sure we ensure the integrity of this election. It only brings me to the conclusion that they are attempting to subvert the election and to hide the fact that they were doing so. Those computers were connected to the internet and at a minimum they were connected to that local data center via a router. I have done a Network Topology diagram depicting that. Mr. Shinkle thank you for your interest, time and effort. Mr. Colbeck thank you. Ms. Bradshaw yes. Colbeck, if you are alleging fraud, have you taken your evidence to this it to mr. Shinkle the attorney general . Mr. Shinkle i took my affidavits to lawyers. A lot of people from the Democratic Party are refuting the republican poll challengers saying they were refuted in court. We never were gave an opportunity to crossexamine the witnesses. Have you submitted evidence of fraud to the Attorney Generals Office . Mr. Colbeck i can submit it to anyone you would like me to submit it to. Accusation of fraud. If there is an accusation of , we are not equipped nor authorized to investigate fraud. It should be sent to the Attorney Generals Office. Mr. Colbeck your job is also certification of the election and execution of processes related to Election Integrity and i can demonstrate the chain of custody was breached on multiple locations in multiple links. That from a board of canvasser perspective, you are supposed to ensure the accuracy of the election through maintenance of the chain of custody and that has not happened. Are there any further questions for mr. Colbeck . Thank you, mr. Colbeck. We will go to the state representative and we will start the three minutes once we get connections. Can you hear me . Ms. Bradshaw yes. Please state and spell your first and last name and the riemann its will begin. Pohlutsky. Iaurie am not going to take up too much time. I know you guys have more than a full agenda and a lot of people before and after me. To underline the importance of what is being done today and say there is a clear legal duty for the board to certify this election. There is a tremendous amount of work done by our clerks, the volunteers, we heard from many of them and i think the insinuation that there is anything that was done improperly is has no place here. So i want to thank you for the work you have done so far. I know this has been acrimonious to say the least. But there is a job to be done today, and there is a clear legal duty so i am asking that the board certify the election today. Thank you. Thank you very much. [indiscernible] i need to put my microphone back on. My apologies. If you could spell your first and last name and your three minutes will begin. Anoogian. E is mari m thank you to the state board of canvassers. Like my colleague representative pohlutsky, i will be brief. Many comments have been made and there are folks speaking after me. I wanted to say how grateful i am to all of you for your service to the state of michigan on behalf of my district as well as voters across the state of michigan. We know Public Service is not something to be taken lightly and we are grateful for your service today. Reiteratei want to that all counties have completed their canvas of the 2020 general election and certified the results. I believe it is critical for this body to certify the election. We have heard a great many legal opinions about why it is imperative we do so, but i am coming here today obviously as a state representative but also as a voter ensuring that we have confidence in our elections including this one and ones going forward. It is critical to making sure voters across the state of michigan continue to engage in our democracy. More than 5. 5 million voters cast ballots across the state for the general election in 2020 and i think it is imperative we continue to set an example not just for voters in michigan but across the country and globally, that we can conduct free and Fair Elections in the state of michigan and those votes count and they mean something. The strategy by a particular candidate and Political Party to stall and delay is a tactic being used to so chaos and confusion in the electorate and it is damaging to our democracy. I want to say that we know the eyes of the world are on the state of michigan this afternoon and how grateful i am to your service and my hope that you will certify this election so we can move forward in securing our elections and securing our democracy. Thank you, everyone. Ms. Bradshaw thank you. Is there a question . You just won an election. It was fairly close. It wasnt fairly close, sir. Votes. Y more than 10,000 do you know how many precincts in your House District can be recounted . Do you know any estimate on that . I dont and that is not my duty, it is the duty of the county clerk. You can ask her when she comes up. I thought you might know. Thank you very much. Next togo on representative rachel. Hello, everyone. Thanks for having me and allowing me to speak with you today. Thank you for your Great Service to the state of michigan. Yourchel, if you can state first then last name and then your three minutes will begin. Sorry. Hood. Great. We turned out in record numbers to participate in this election. I am in the city of grand rapids michigan. The city and county clerks professionalism and county clerks professionalism in counting the cities votes [indiscernible] their contribution to we are having a hard time with your audio. You are muffled. Im not sure if it is something on your end. Try again. Ms. Hood how is this . It is a little better. Ms. Hood ok. The election is over and it is time to respect the will of the people. More than 5. 5 Million People voted and we will move forward to tackle the nations greatest challenges and make life better for all of us. Now the canvassers must follow the law and their sworn duty to certify the election just like all 83 county boards. As was stated earlier in the meeting, if there isnt going to be a statewide, if there is going to be a statewide or individual jurisdiction audit of the election, which the secretary of state has already announced will happen, by law that hasnt [indiscernible] the certification. There is no legal basis not to certify or to delay. Tore is no logical basis delay certification. This is a managerial and a simple task it is necessary in order to resolve the confirmed individuals may be sharing the accuracy of our elections. If a candidate would like to petition for a recount they have that right. By law they can only have it can only happen after certification. If there will be a statewide [indiscernible] we need the certification in order to move forward with verification. I hope you will do your duty and continue a smooth election that the people of michigan can trust. I appreciate your time. Thank you. Ms. Bradshaw are there any questions . Thank you very much. We will move to the representative. Like she is on so mayor. Move to the if you can hear us, if you would state and spell your first name first and last name and then your three minutes will begin. And i am the mayor of city of jackson, birthplace of the grand old party, the republican party. Two weeks ago i had the opportunity to be a credentialed election challenger. 9 00 a. M. Until 11 00 p. M. And i witnessed firsthand hours of republican challengers harassing workers with frivolous claims, inappropriately demanding to know their partisanship, intentionally causing delay with havingnt questioning and intimidating staff accounts, training volunteers to challenge every single military absentee ballot however meritless. Imagine a surgeon having to perform while having their and integrity questioned while people chant at them at the operating room. Those poll workers remain professional. We owe them a debt of gratitude for their long, difficult hours and tedious work to ensure every vote was counted particularly during a pandemic. Even before they finished, President Trump and the republicans levied allegations of fraud and wrongdoing to be the vexatious litigation and the false narratives that were fabricated as an attempt to pressure Civil Servants like yourselves to act illegally for political gain. Please dont take that debate. Recall what jacksons state senator mike sharkey said after meeting with trump this past friday. He said, we have not yet and made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in michigan and as legislative leaders, we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding michigans electors. Just as we have said throughout this election. End quote. Jackson voters, i implore you to follow the process. It is your moral, legal and ethical responsibility to join the consensus of all of michigans 83 county canvassing boards, all of which are bipartisan, and joined them in certifying the results of the election. Voters had a say in picking the candidate they wanted. You dont illegally have the choice. You are required to certify the results and you can do that today. Your actions matter for carrying out the will of the voters. Please do not break this today. Thank you. Ms. Bradshaw are there any questions . Thank you very much. We will take a quick recess with the boards approval. Ok. A recess please. Welcome back. Love technology, really do. I want to make a couple comments before we continue with our Public Comments. Have over i think the last count, over 500, and because of that with all permission of my Board Members, people are going to move it to about a minute and a half to two minutes. [indiscernible] ms. Bradshaw yes. Just because we want to make sure everyones voice is heard and i want to make sure we go from there. I want to make a couple technical, after i call your name, your screen will change and you will join the meeting as a presenter. Then you will need to turn your sound and video on before you can make alive Public Comment. I will tell you if we can hear you and we will go from there. If you are indicated when signing up that you will be using your phone, as a microphone during Public Comment, you will receive a phone call to the number you provided. Please answer the call. Once answered, you will be able to hear audio of the meeting. You will need to turn off the sound and speakers on your computer at that time. It will probably be a number you dont know, just want to make sure you answer that phone. You will be asked to unmute when it is your chance to speak. On your computer your computer video will be visible at the time. Hear you or we are having audio issues, or if it is really kind of mumbly, we ask that you email to make sure i e the right email, to ndos whoops ndoscanvassers michigan. Gov to provide your comment in writing. We are in a public forum and your comments should be respectful or i will let you know we will mute you. Going forward, if everyone is start with, and if i mispronounce your name, i apologize. We can fix that when you come on. Rouleau. Good afternoon. I live in Grosse Pointe park. To november 11, i spent approximately 60 hours watching election workers in various capacities lawfully doing their job. For all the date of those hours my observation time was in detroit. From what i have read and heard from interviews of experts, this is ministerial. The failure to do your duty will embarrass and discredit our state. Thank you. Ms. Bradshaw [indiscernible] ok. Unmute and state and spell your first and last name. You have muted yourself. You will have to unmute. There you are. Mbeck. I am ay gro resident of the village of the city of douglas. Tod afternoon, and i want thank you for serving on this board and for the opportunity to speak you today. From what i have heard today, the law seems clear on what your duties are, certify this undeniable decision by the people of michigan. We dont need to endure anymore failed Court Appearances before calling and election. What i want to say today is that this decision is about so much more than certification of an election. What you holding your hands is trust in our elections. That ripples across the country and across the world. Nothing is more important than this democracy. I am trying hard to trust that Public Officials will protect our elections. It is hard after this election cycle. It sometimes feels like officials are attempting to tear off my ballot in front of me by recounting. Until they found a way to find a way to change the results. I have been a voter for 50 years and i have never had to think about whether canvassers will certify an election. Fear mynly never had to legislators would run ramshackle over the canvassing process. After last weeks junket to washington by our leaders, my fears are not put to rest and the stalling needs to end. We rely on you to restore trust with your clear decision today. Trust in the process is a responsibility far more important than one election. I am most concerned about the precedent the board of canvassers creates as it affects voting in the coming years. Your decision reaches far into the future. People trust the process or give up and dont participate. Every 24 years we will continue our history of free elections or endure this unending chaos and uncertainty. You have been handed a sacred duty and i urge you to carry it out today. Tomorrow is a world where we can trust our vote is counted. Ms. Bradshaw thank you, wendy. We will move on to rowes cousins. She is by phone. Do we have her . You are muted. State and spell your first and last name. Rose cousin. I this was the first year i worked elections at a polling place here in lansing. I found the system to be very honest. , everybody was we had challengers at the polling place and i just felt the integrity was way up there. And i would highly encourage you guys to certify the elections today. Ms. Bradshaw thank you very much. Thank you. Goodbye. Ms. Bradshaw we will go to terry. Terry, if you can state and spell your first and last name. Weymouth. E is terry i would like to convey my thanks to the election voters the election supervisors. I watched some of the recounts. It was clear that the multiday ordeal was hard on everyone and i am glad there are people willing to work diligently and carefully under such pressure. Problems . R of course. This is a human enterprise and errors occur but i observed no one worked alone. Every step of the process was in the open. There were multiple hands, heads and hearts focused on each problem. Errors were reduced by openness and cooperation. According to the New York Times and washington post, errors detect did in wayne county were fewer than 400 problems. The canvassing reports for you report there were fewer errors this time than in previous elections. Is next step of the process certification. We the people voted. Now is the time to certify the count and approve the selection of the electors for the state of michigan. The counting process, if the counting process needs improvements, we have plenty of time before the next election deposit and reflect, offer suggestions, and make the process better. But this meeting is not the place or time to remedy those minor glitches and faults. Now is the time to act on the will of the people and move the process forward and let michigan stand strong among the early voices. We believe in democracy. Endorse the results. Ms. Bradshaw thank you, terry. Laura cronyn. To i believe we have her by the phones. Ms. Cronyn hello. Ms. Bradshaw if you could spell your first and last name. I am a detroit. Voter and our voices have been negated in the past, most notably with the Emergency Management vote and the overwhelming objection to the detroit bankruptcy. I have been here most of my life, i am a third generation. As a young girl i saw families abandon their beautiful homes, churches and schools just because families of different skin colors began to live their dreams of homeownership. Much of the tax base was left with those white families, leaving detroit in poverty because of that abandonment. It astonishes me today to see a whole race of people leave their homes unforced just to maintain all white communities. I love my neighborhood and i love my neighbors. I would not take anything different. Administration, people in detroit watched for four long years a president and a party that stole, griff did, cheated and broke the law without being held accountable or any of it. All of this while black and brown people are being charged, locked up, separated and killed by dishonorable people in power. It is hard for us to believe that many people in this country look at what has been going on but cant see what is so clear to the majority of us. Out andtion was to come vote this man out of office to rule ofget back to a law that will be fair and just for all people. My advice for the people of livonia, Grosse Pointe, or any of the surrounding suburbs is that if you wanted to influence the vote here, you should never have left or you should move here. That is your opportunity. We the people have so much work to do, not just to get back to where we were but to build a more Perfect Union where all of us are equal. Your job is to certify the vote rest until it is done properly. Ms. Bradshaw thank you. , we stillmake sure have over 500. I think we wanted to bring the time down. About a minute and a half. I want to remind everyone to stay on the issue that we are here for. With that, we will move forward. I have scott riley. She scott, if you can state and spell your first and last name. You have about a minute and a half. Reilly. I am scott a resident of michigan. I am a retired automotive engineer and i have been working on getting out the vote for the past three years in underserved communities. Those numbers, you have been fussing over, represent people. And i have one person i would like to describe to you to try to make that point. This is peggy. She was an older black woman who was in the Del Ray Senior Center on grand in southwest detroit. She came into the Community Room obviously blind and she made her way to the table with the help of another resident. Herof my volunteers helped fill out the forms for registration as well as getting on the permanent absentee ballot list and having her sign in the proper locations. We came back later, confirmed that she had voted and she was so pleased. This was the first time she had voted, and it was in this election where she wanted to have her voice heard. So i was also at tcf. I want to reflect back on what derek said is what i saw. And causeos to try errors, not to catch errors. The process was a strategic get it to you and to get it to the legislature as was just mentioned by wendy. If that happens, you have negated peggys vote. I hope you can live with that. Thank you. Ms. Bradshaw thank you, scott. Sumner. Oing to go to hello. Can you hear me . Ms. Bradshaw yes. Good afternoon. My name is sumner truax. Thank you for the opportunity to be here. I need to spell my name. Umner truax. Ok. Bradshaw i am a student at the university of michigan lawsuit law school and a resident of ann arbor. I served as a poll worker in michigan and on november 4 i volunteered as a nonpartisan juror at the tcf center during the absentee ballot counting process. I want to echo that i saw no fraud, no impropriety on the part of poll workers, high saw hundreds of professional, dedicated Civil Servants who are doing the important and frankly, mundane work that makes our democracy run, which is counting the votes. Theany people turned out in middle of a Global Pandemic to serve our country. That is a sign of a healthy democracy. Only if thosethy votes matter. It is healthy only if the gatekeepers, who are people like you, do your jobs. As many others have said today, your job is not a political exercise. It is a democratic one. Democracy is so much bigger than peoples partisan identity. E, using fixated on how many partisans are at each precinct. What a sad and small view of democracy that is. The people have voted, the votes have been counted and certified and you have the easy job of adding up the results and certifying them. Ms. Bradshaw thank you very much. To, ok. Oing to move all right. To brendan flynn. Can you see and hear me . Ms. Bradshaw yes. If you could state and spell your first and last name. Flynn. Ie is brendan was a nonpartisan poll challenger at the tcf center on november 3 as well as a resident of ann arbor. I would like to point out that the election workers and inspectors were exceptionally professional. Any time they were questioned or even faced down right accusations from gop challengers, the supervisors were willing to answer every question and make sure everyone understood the process. When i was there, there were even more gop challengers than democratic or nonpartisan challenges challengers buy a decent margin. The only disruptions the entire day were from gop challengers who had difficulty following the rules around the duplication process am a gop challengers not respecting requirements and a challenger that requested an entire tables worth of ballots thrown out because a poll worker wasnt wearing her name tag. They were denied. There was nothing a regular or fraudulent about what i observed at the tcf center on november 3. We have a professor who likes to say our constitutional system is like pickup basketball. You only have a game if both sides agree to play by the rules. If one side changes the rules or takes the ball away in the name of winning there is no more system. The michigan board of state con canvassers, the ball is in your hands. You have a legal, moral, ethical and constitutional duty to certify the results today. Play by the rules. Our system depends on it. Thank you. Ms. Bradshaw thank you very much, brendan. We go to elizabeth. Temkin. Elizabeth, if you could state and spell your first and last name. Can you hear me . Ms. Bradshaw yes. My name is spelled elizabeth temkin. I am a thirdyear law student at the university of michigan and on november 4, 20 20 i served as a nonpartisan challenger with credentials from the Lawyers Committee for civil rights of the tcf center in detroit where i observed absentee votes happening. I wouldnt here to tell you what i saw firsthand it is on nonpartisan challenger and i am here as a citizen and a voter to urge you to fill your duty as a board and honor the will of the people of the state. I spent until 7 00 p. M. At the tcf center and i can say many things at what i saw, but with my limited time i would like to hone in on what i believe was the most egregious interference on that date i republican challengers. I spent much of the afternoon at one tableland sometime between 2 30 and 3 00 p. M. , word got around the lawsuit had been filed. The republican challenger at my table communicated she would be challenging every ballot moving forward. Challenges are only supposed to raise an objection when they have a good faith belief there is an error or issue with the ballot in front of them. This was not made in good faith. There was no particular reason given for these ballots to be thrown out. The only way to describe this was an effort to suppress the vote of a predominantly black and presumably democratic electorate. It was an effort to disenfranchise voters and it is disheartening to witness what has followed, repeated attempts to undermine the democratic process. This flies in the face of each and every michigander who cast a ballot and the thousands of individuals who work tirelessly to ensure the election went smoothly. Any decision against certification will cast doubt on the process. Ms. Bradshaw your time has ended. Madam chair, let me get this microphone. I am never one who doesnt want to hear input from the public. We have a motion on the table. We have 500 people who wish to speak in front of us. We have now heard from a substantial number of them. We made sure to hear from all the clerks, all the elected officials, the public, that we are getting now the Public Comment we are getting now is, i suspect if we vote the motion up or down, most of the people on the line waiting to give Public Comment would be satisfied. I am suggesting out would like to move the motion to certify and hear the Public Comment after. Ms. Bradshaw i have one more clerk. The clerk of canton township. Hello. My name is michael and i am the clerk in canton township. Ms. Bradshaw if you can spell and say your name. Sure. Siegrest. I dont want to get in the way of the commissioners. I think it is germane to the direction of this body. I have 75sly, thousand registered voters in canton township. Show up,6,000 of them 58,000 vote on election day or by absentee. We processed many absentee ballots. We were counting them for 24 hours. I begged the legislature to do what they could to alleviate the burden because i was concerned about the demand and what it would do to the precinct inspectors to work 24 hours without a break, and the legislature had half a solution. So here we are today. This was always going to be the direction we would get into. I want to ask this board to fulfill the oath they took much in the same way my inspectors fulfilled their oath and i to uphold theath constitution of the United States and the state of michigan and faithfully discharge our duty. The message and the michigan constitution gives all political power inherent in the people, and the declaration of independence says that the government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed to throw out, delay, or ignore the results of an election because you dont like the outcome on behalf of a Political Party, candidate organization is a betrayal of our oath. It is a betrayal of the duty before us. I would crawl across broken glass to make sure voters of all Political Parties have their legitimate vote cast and the fact that we have this far today gotten this far today is a slight against our country and our system and people are doing what no foreign adversary has been able to do to america in over 240 years, and that is to call into question our entire government and our elections. This is a shame. Thank you. Ms. Bradshaw questions . Thank you very much. I think i have one more clerk. Are other local i donticials know if you want us to [indiscernible] i will make a statement before closing. I want to be clear about one thing. I think any allegations of voter seriouslyld be taken and investigated. I think an case, election audit should be conducted and i believe complaints of Election Fraud need to be investigated and prosecuted under the law. State law is clear that we do not have that authority and other entities to. I encourage those state officials to act and what they can to preserve Election Integrity. But this board must respect the authority entrusted to us and follow the law as written. We must not attempt to exercise power we simply dont have. In this case, the law is absolutely clear. We have a clear legal duty to certify the results of the election as shown by the return that was given to us. We cannot and should not go beyond that. John adams once said, we are government of laws, not men. And this board is to adhere to that principle here today. Put ard must do is its part to uphold the rule of law and comply to our legal duty to certify the selection. I will be supporting the motion. I would like to make a statement. [indiscernible] i have a statement that is prepared. I am going to read it. I have a copy for the clerk. Michigan board of canvassers dates back to the 1850s and i take this responsibility seriously. This is an important decision whether to certify the results of the november 3 general election. It is important that after certification the candidates t allege errors in voting the law indicates we must keep legal in 20 days and 40 days to certify the vote. Any delays in this must be to returnse correction of or other necessary purposes. I need to review the board of canvas or meeting from last tuesday to determine the efficiency of their certification. I determined this is a necessary purpose. Four years ago the Democrat Party chair representative and a representative said seeking to ensure all votes were counted in the states ballot tabulating machines arent susceptible to human manipulation. Twopurpose of this are ensure the accuracy and integrity of the election. Every vote must be counted. The Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman chastised the campaign for pursuing the they had lost to donald trump and announced a recount effort. Michigan voters are being disenfranchised and this recount shouldnt happen, they said. Hillary clinton should call off the recount and ask jill stein to abide by the results. The Trump Campaign weighed in as a trump spokesperson referred to the recount as nonsense, noting clinton conceded to trump and chastised reporters. Quote, i think it is ridiculous that oxygen has been given to the recount effort and there is no chance of results changing. This election was decided. Michiganmind the citizens and the press that 2020 is not the first time there have been questions about voting, voting machines, procedures and the process in michigan. Inhas become clear to us michigan and across the country that michigan has a problem conducting elections. Im talking right into this thing. Ms. Bradshaw they cant hear you. Mr. Shinkle as i said, michigan has a problem conducting elections. For that i apologize to the citizens and this nation and commit to working to see the problems are addressed before the 2021 Mayoral Election in detroit and the statewide 2022 elections. There is no excuse for the uncertainty that seems to follow every election in our state. So many questions have been raised about the 2020 election. The secretary of state has been on notice and her failure to effectively address them has resulted in embarrassment for michigan. In august after the primary election, i was under the assumption she was going to use her statutory supervisory control to around the november election in detroit. This didnt happen. Her unwillingness or inability to properly organize michigan elections so only eligible voters vote and all voted are votes whend that being verified or counted are subject to proper scrutiny by credited poll workers in a is on excusable. There needs to be a review of michigans election process and procedures so this never happens again and we dont have a nation wondering what happened in michigan. Mustecretary of state cooperate and must be prepared to address the shortcomings revealed in the election. The people of our state deserve better. Numerous questions have been raised. They may be legitimate. The board of canvassers doesnt have the resources or authority to get to the bottom of these issues. It is clear the secretary of state acted perhaps illegally in a way that exacerbated the situation by forcing certain local courts to distribute every applications to qualified voter. That was contrary to state law and resulted on voters being told you have already voted. In usual contract, the partisan vote rock the vote may have added ineligible voters. All concerns should be addressed so never again we have an election and with distress and suspicion. Lets look at everything and fix our problems. In 2000, florida was an embarrassment when their procedures were found to be inconsistent and inadequate. Officials on both sides decided never again. Basisght on a bipartisan they fixed the problems in florida. 20 years later, it is time for michigan to act. Raiseds ago, a democrat questions about voting a liver irregularities and the fact that 50 of precincts couldnt be recounted. Three months ago we were shocked to learn it were sent. A number of precincts never were counted or suddenly [indiscernible] we cant rely on our secretary of state to provide a review of these conflicts and we must look elsewhere. Asking the today i Michigan Legislature to conduct an indepth review of all election processes and procedures in michigan and i will offer a motion to make this request from the entire board of canvassers since terms have been raised by members of all parties. Not quite done. Republicans and democrats raised the issues about irregularities and review should have support for the board and of both parties. Recommendations ultimately require the governors signature and i would ask she render support in this effort. Hopefully 2022 will see elections conducted the way they were in florida this year, where they set early records for early voting and absentee ballots. The results were known early and there was no dispute over the election. It is my greatest hope that after the next election, the board will certify the results in an environment where there are no Unanswered Questions or suspicions that our election was in any way compromised. All citizens need to be assured that michigan is conducting accurate and professional elections. Dont plan on voting for certification. I believe wayne county certification needs to be looked at. There are problems with it. That is my statement. Thank you. Ms. Bradshaw norm, i know you have a mr. Shinkle yes. The [indiscernible] voters that every vote is counted and procedures are fair for everyone. All parties involved. I agree with my colleague norm that voters in this state, through a ballot question change , depending on how you vote in this state, [indiscernible] absentee voting. We have sameday Voter Registration and the ability to conduct audits after the fact. That is great. I supported all of those things. But it requires that we change our election systems. For theto allow. Rocessing of absentee ballots i think we need to look at how we certify and train challengers, how the parties do that and figure out how we can do that on a bipartisan basis. I think we need to get rid of, we are the only one in the nation that says you cant recount a precinct if it is unbalanced. There are many things the legislature and all of the legislature can do to fix this. Norms idea of this board, a Bipartisan Commission involved in the legislature, the governors office, the secretary of state, lets modernize how we do elections in this state. Lets clean it up. We are full of human errors. I dont believe there is fraud. But there are lots of human errors in how we do things. I think that we need to seriously look at that. I think we need to seriously fix that. I have was very disappointed when was very disappointed when president elect trump talked about the statewide recount years ago. We were almost done with it, but there were human errors but no fraud happening. Favor of an audit, but i ofmostly in favor modernizing how we conduct elections in this state. I will be voting for the motion. Ms. Bradshaw is there any further discussion . Norm, sorry. Any further discussion on the motion . If there is no further discussion on the motion, i will , will youoard members please take a roll call vote . Chair bradshaw . Es. Vice chair . Yes. Es. Yes. Votes. Have three aye ms. Bradshaw the motion does move. Second motion, i move the board of state canvassers authorize the staff of the bureau of elections to represent castoards in any recount in the november 2020 general election. It has been moved. Is there any discussion on the motion . Roll call vote . Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Have four aye votes. Madam chair, i would suggest as we move forward that we complete the next item on the agenda which is the special election of the Michigan House of representatives Fourth District and then we go back to Public Comment. I am green. I would like to move before we do that. Mr. Shinkle as i mentioned i would like to move the board of canvassers request the Michigan Legislature conduct an indepth review of the michigan election process and procedures to address concerns that have been raised by experts and citizens about our elections in order to assure our citizens that michigan elections are accurate, transparent, and fully protective of all citizens constitutional rights. Support. Ms. Bradshaw is there any discussion . On the motion . Discussion, can we take a roll call vote . Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. There are four aye votes. I think we will move on to our next item on the agenda, which is recording the results of the november third, 2020 special election for the Michigan House of representatives Fourth District 112021. Rm, ending yes. Pink sheet. Second ok. Previously regarding the process [indiscernible] staff does recommend the board certified. I will make the motion. I move the board record the results of the november 3, 2020 special election for the office of state representative in the wayne county board. November 17. It was previously in our book. I support the motion. Ms. Bradshaw is there any discussion on the motion . Please take a roll call vote. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Aye votes. Four ms. Bradshaw i wanted to just check, im sure we still have a lot of people. Im going to go back to Public Comment. Are we all set . There are 460. I want to Say Something before we go, i know this is an understatement but i cannot say bureauhank you to the and the bureau staff and the technical people that have been running our board of canvassers meetings through microsoft teams. Thankfully we didnt have to do that today. But also, to all the clerks, the staff in the clerks offices, all of the citizens who stepped up who wanted to be part of this election process in the state of michigan, i cannot thank all of you enough. Democracy only works when we participate. The michigan board of canvassers voted 30 with one republican member abstain in to certify the state Election Results, confirming joe bidens winning the state. You can see this event in its entirety and other events related to the election and vote certification at any time on our website, cspan. Org. 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