Organization, talks about the biotech industry and how it is helping to combat the coronavirus pandemic. Also the fulcrum editorinchief David Hawkings joins us to discuss how the results of the november election will influence the next congress. Host good morning, everyone. As coronavirus cases spike across the country, governors are putting in place new restrictions on businesses and gatherings. As decisions, president elect biden yesterday called on congress to act on more Economic Relief for americans. They have 14 days. Do you agree or disagree . If you are unemployed, dial in at 202 7488000. If you are a Small Business owner or employee, 202 7488001. If you are an essential worker, 202 7488002. All others, call us at 202 7488003. You can also text us at that same number or go to twitter cspanwj and post your comments on facebook. Com cspan. The Associated Press headline this morning pandemic politics lead bc in gridlock. D. C. In gridlock as the virus searches. Wants nancy pelosi wants to go big. , 2 trillion a smallerwants package. Meeting in the middle would be difficult for both camps. Is a disruptive factor on capitol hill. Mcconnell and nancy pelosi could be wary of navigating the turbulence required to forge an agreement. The hill newspaper on that. Biden urges congress to Pass Congress covid19 package. He is calling on congress to pass what democrats want, a higher number. Here is what he had to say. [video clip] of americans who have lost wages in jobs, we all agree on our call, that we can deliver immediate relief and it need be done quickly. Affordable health care for millions who have lost it or are in danger of losing it, childcare, sick leave, family leave so workers do not have to choose between work and family. Corporate america agreed on this today. Need the support of small we need support of Small Businesses and entrepreneurs. They are the background of our communities that are teetering on the edge. We all agree on the urgent need for funding for states and localities to keep workers on the job. Vital Public Services running, Law Enforcement, educators, First Responders, like we did with the recovery act of 2009, saving literally millions of jobs. There is a reason why the federal government is able to run a deficit, because the states must balance their budgets and they are in real trouble. You are going to see hundreds of thousands of police officers, firefighters, First Responders, Mental Health clinics going out of business. Right now, congress should come together and pass a covid relief package like the heroes act that the house passed six months ago. Virus andut down the deliver Economic Relief, then we can start to build back better than before. Host that was president elect biden yesterday. Do you agree or disagree that more Financial Relief is needed to combat the pandemic . For those businesses and americans who are unemployed and facing more restrictions. Look at how much money has been spent. You can find this yourself if you go to the committee for a responsible federal budget, crfb. Org. They estimate policymakers have committed trillions of financial support, including 587 billion through administrative action, 3. 8 trillion dollars through legislative action, and 7 trillion through Federal Reserve action. Of and 14 billion administrative support has been committed and dispersed, and over 30 of Federal Reserve support. On net, we estimate these measures will increase deficits by 2. 6 trillion. There is the math. Now take a look at what the organization puts together for this two point 2 trillion that congress dispersed. Loansillion in forgivable from ppp. Payments, 27ct 2 billion. Benefits,nt 242 billion. States received 180 billion. 164 billion dollars in Economic Injury disaster loans. Allowingion for employers to defer payroll tax payments. And spending for hospitals come etc. Spendingllion in other and tax breaks. You can find this if you go to this committee for responsible federal budget. The website is crfb. Org. Remember, yesterday we had on our program a doctor who talked about the distribution of a virus. That conversation took place as we learned yesterday morning, and here is the headline in the wall street journal, that my moderna has created a vaccine that appears to be 95 effective. Thatoctor we spoke to says Congress Needs to dedicate at least 8 billion for the distribution of this vaccine. Should that happen . Joe in asheville, north carolina, good morning to you. Go ahead. Caller where are you going to get the money to pay for all of this . They already appropriated 5. 5 trillion dollars out of the trust funds for the old age, medicare, medicaid, disability, and the road tax and airport trust funds. They owe that money. They have a law that says if you have a residual a man of money in those funds come in goes to the treasury. They issue special bonds to that. Nothing in the law says when they can pay it back. You give it up for 1 interest note, a 30 year amortization. Where are you going to get that money . Because that is where they are taking that from. American people, open your ears. That is all the money that our grandparents, your parents, and children have that money. People do deserve help, but they need to finally put it back. They need to pass that law to crush that, but no politician will come a democrat, republican, independent, because they will not shoot themselves in the foot. Host would you support more aid . Caller i said yeah, but it needs to go to the people who people onrking, the retirement, medicaid, medicare, disability. And if you put that money back, just think. You could repair all the roads, put new bridges in and take care of them, and nobody would be robbing anything, but that is what johnson did in 1983 and reagan did an audit and nothing ever happened on it. Host let me note, as we said, congress is back this week, the First Time Since the election. They have 14 days, if they adjourn on their scheduled date, to get this done. Articles report this morning that the white house and Congress Need to come to a deal by the end of december if they want to avoid an end to those Unemployment Benefits. Not the 600. Thats done, but the unemployment aid, debt relief, and eviction moratoriums. They all end at the end of december. Greg, falls church, virginia. You are a Small Business owner. Do you need more help . Caller yes. Muchusinesses have just as of an impact on this covid as individuals. It is a challenge, day in, day out. Which isself a salary significantly less than anyone else in my business. We need help. Small businesses need help. Host did you reach out to the Small Business administration and get loans . What have you done so far . Sba fori reached out to an emergency relief loan. I also reached out for a ppp loan. I did not get the first round of ppp. I did not get the second round of ppp. On the third around it, i finally got a grant. I still need to apply for forgiveness. I got approximately 45 of what i requested, so i got significantly less. Host greg, can i ask you why . Did they give you a reason why they only gave you 45 . Caller no. No. Explanation on why i did not get the rest. I did not get one. Honestly, i was grateful for what i got. It seems every time you have a republican administration, we have an increase in our National Debt, and then it gets blamed on a democratic administration. Every time we have some cut of national crisis, it is preceded by a taxcut, and the taxcut chills us. Passed by the Trump Administration, i call it paul ryans nightmare. That has caused us tremendous amounts of money. Way, [indiscernible] host what do you do . What is your business . Caller i have a sports athletic club. Host greg and falls church. Are you still there . Hang on the line. I want to read this to you and see if this would help you. These are the uncommitted legislative funds, money that congress and the white house approved. Only businesses claimed 530 2 billion of the 670 billion of ppp and 74 billion of the 466 billion available through disaster loans. The Federal Reserve has only tapped 195 out of 154 billion for established emergency lending facilities and 37 billion from loan programs. Great, hearing those numbers, what are you thinking . Greg, hearing those numbers, what are you thinking . Caller i am thinking thats good. That is what i am thinking. [laughter] the problem with ppp is you cannot apply will double times. I read the same articles and hear the same news that you guys are reading. I listen to your program. Love it. Especially when people say stupid things. But quite honestly, i can only apply once, same for the emergency relief loan. I can only apply one time for it. I cannot apply multiple times. I got approximately 50 of what i was asking for, but i was grateful for what i got. Host ok, greg. Thank you for calling in. I will go to carlos, and essential worker in maryland. What do you do . Caller i work in the Utility Electric industry for government mainly. Utilities, highways, substations, metro service. Host are you mostly working outside . You feel safe . Caller thats why i called. One of the things that i get theerned about is utilization of words they are saying help. I think a lot of us need understanding, someone to understand where we are coming from, as opposed to people providing a message or sending a message that we want a handout. A lot of republicans in rural states look at it like people want welfare. When this first started, a lot of us were scared. We were not allowed to quit becauseare not we are in union. They told us immediately, if we quit, then we were kicked out of the union and were done. So we pushed through. I know a lot of people that got sick. A couple people died. So i pushed through. Then i got surgery. I had to have surgery on my eyes. And, as a result of my surgery, they did not allow me to go to work. I ended up getting fired. I am good at what i do and i immediately got another job. What i mean about understanding is that people say where is this money coming from . We give taxes, we give money to banks, to companies, countries. We pay taxes. Why not understand the situation that we are in . My fiance does not make much money. I am from the city i am tough. I want to cry sometimes. I am a college student. I o so much money in student debt. So much money in student debt. I pay my taxes. I dont want nothing periphery. For free. I dont believe in unemployment for people who do not want to work. All i want is for people in my situation. Host carlos, have you looked into Student Debt Relief . Caller i have not finished school yet, so i dont qualify. I am in the third year of school. I am worried because i had to leave from my condo. I had to leave from there and move into a cheaper house. Comes, butully that i am not speaking just for me. All across the country, people are saying, where are we going to get money from . We can reallocate things. Why not pass if you make less than 1500 a week or maybe the first 1000 of your income not be taxed . That is a few hundred dollars. That can pay an electric bill. That can make things easier. I have not on on unemployment because it is 600. Help me. Ot going to that will not even pay half of my mortgage. I had to leave my condo and me and a girlfriend moved back to our house we were trying to make a living off of. We are back in that. Doesnt that sound like a good idea . Just the first 1000. It is not a lot of money. If someone is working and busting their aunts, and you take 300 of it . Host so you are working fulltime and going to school. Caller yes. For an Electric Company collegeo community studying engineering. I decided i know a lot, i have cante positions, but i advance unless i have that title behind my name. I am a fulltime student and and will be a 3. 5 gpa, last semester, because of the struggles, i had to withdraw, and this class will be the first time i have ever failed. I will repeat it in january. Like id it said, i am in my third year. I cannot put in six hours studying after work because i have to work more. Host all right, carlos in maryland, an essential worker. Lets hear from steve in fort pierce, florida. You are unemployed, steve. Where you let go because of covid . Were you let go because of covid . Becausei am unemployed i am retired. I love to see you smile on television. I like that and your program. A couple things that concern me monetizing our net. That is what i fear in the United States. The guy before stole a little bit of my thunder. Our National Debt is growing and growing and growing and growing. It gets to the point where we cannot pay it anymore. We are already paying our interest so much. It really concerns me. Benjamin franklin was attributed getsying when a democracy funde point where it can its own prosperity, it is its demise. I am concerned about our country. Things are starting to the starting to disappear from supermarkets. We have to think about this in a way that is the big picture instead of how we can just throw money at the problem. Host let me go to isaac in maryland, an essential worker. Caller hi, thanks for having me. Host what do you do . Caller water treatment, so a lot of hvac and freshwater systems for hospitals and Retirement Homes. Host those are hospitals and Retirement Homes. Kind of a dangerous place to be during a pandemic. Caller they are, but i have a slight advantage. I just started this job a few months ago. Before that, i was working on large ships, and about 15 of us caught covid, including myself, so i had the antibodies on my side, which is nice. The hospitals are putting out all these regulations and rules that they expect everyone to follow, but they are breaking their own rules. I can count several times that nurses and doctors were not wearing mask around me. Or this one case from a colleague of mine. We are a small company, only about 20 people, but a colleague went into an elevator and they just wheeled a patient in who had covid. The doctors around him were in full suits of ppe, but they went into the same elevator as him. Retirement homes are doing excellent. I know the situation is different in other states, but Retirement Homes are still on almost full lockdown. They are sanitizing everything. Everybody is wearing mask. Masks. There is a retirement home for people who spent their entire life the Catholic Church, for nuns only, and they will not even let us inside the Main Building anymore. We have to do everything outside because they take it very seriously. Host let me ask you, what do you want to see congress do . Caller i want to see congress put out something more targeted. Like the guy who was talking who had the Small Business, it should not go to everybody. It should go to the people who need it. It should not be a huge bill. Honestly, i do not want to see a National Mask mandate. I just want people to talk to each other and start taking it a little bit more seriously. Donteing said, i really i like what he is 20 people in my job have gotten covid and gotten better in less then a week. Wear masks. It is the polite thing to do, but i dont think the government should do a whole lot. Host all right, isaac. Let me show you what your governor, larry hogan, had to say yesterday. He talked about the federal efforts in negotiations over more economic aid. [video clip] insiders washington seem more concerned with winning arguments than actually advancing bipartisan solutions. Neither side seems to want to make progress. They just want to make demands and when arguments. That is not leadership. That is just political theater. And most of us are sick and tired of all the drama. Pandemic and the economic collapse it has caused have shown this problem in stark relief. Struggling families and Small Businesses have been desperately in need of immediate relief, but instead of working until they reached a compromise, congress laid politics and went on vacation. Politics andlayed went on vacation. Contrast that with americas governors. Was covid hit our shores, i proud to be chairman of the National Governors association. We pulled together governors in a truly historic, bipartisan way. Governors on both sides of the aisle stepped up on the front lines together. We understood that in times of crisis, partisan politics must be put aside. The failure of washington to effectively combat covid and the failure to pass a stimulus package are just the latest examples of the dysfunction in washington. Host governor larry hogan yesterday. If you missed it, you can watch it on our website, cspan. Org. Another headline the governor made from the Washington Times hogan tells the president it is time to biden. Governor eyes his own run for the white house. That is in the Washington Times. Let me share with you this Associated Press piece about how governors across the country are ratcheting up restrictions ahead of thanksgiving. They write California Governor Gavin Newsom announced he is pulling the emergency brake on efforts to reopen the economy, saying the state is experiencing the fastest growth in cases yet, and unchecked it will lead to catastrophic outcomes. Andloses many businesses requires the wearing of a mask outside the home with limited exceptions. In other states, the new mexico governors stayathome order went into effect monday. Only essential