That is not because people are so excited about joe biden. Liberal america was really hoping for a repudiation of donald trump and that is what is making them celebrate. It is almost too hard to imagine a time where we wont have to get up every day and ask ourselves what crazy thing the president tweeted. That is probably not true. We are probably going for a real time of unrest. My greatest fear is that a lot of the people who supported trump will take this election and say it proves that politics no longer works for them. He has been telling them for a couple of years that any outcome that does not result in him that it wasis proof stolen. Will say lot of them after this election that we lost and we will try to win this time. Re are some on the fringes, you could even have some decide that violence is the answer. That is just going to be a few people possibly but it could be a very dangerous situation. Hear joe biden come out and say i am going to be a president for all americans. That after a time of great partisanship, barack obama said he would try to unify the country. Bill clinton said it before him. That is the kind of thing we want to hear from our leaders, even if it might not be possible for the president to actually bring the country together. It is the kind of thing that the president should say. He should not be actively trying to make our differences worse. You may not believe that giovanni can bring about what he said he was going to but if nothing else, it is good to hear the person who should be president say that is what he is trying to do. Moving head, what is the tallest hurdle for joe biden . At the moment, it looks like the senate will be the tallest hurdle. I wrote a piece arguing against ticket splitting. We have this naive belief that if you have the president from one party and a congressman from another party that the result will be moderation and compromise. We are in a polarized time. That does not produce compromise, it produces gridlock. It is in the interest of the Republican Party to see joe biden fail. The strategy he is when barack obama was president. Mitch mcconnell is not a particularly good legislator but he is brilliant in opposition. They are going to look at the situation and of course, this is assuming that democrats dont in georgia. Unoffs mcconnell and the other republicans are going to look at we can doion and say this by not allowing any legislation of all of any significance. All those things that joe biden ran on, if you want to his website, he had policy papers from here to sunday. All those things he said he was going to do, bring public option care, raising the minimum wage, all kinds of policy plans he had. If republicans take the senate, you can basically lock them away in a file cabinet. They are not going to matter. For instance, at the end of the obama administration, mcconnell essentially shut down all confirmation of judges. He could say that he is just going to decide that not only will they fill any Supreme Court seats, they are not going to fill any at all. I Say Something like that and you say he would never go that far. The republicans have taught us that theyre willing to go pretty far. When in 2016, before the election, there were many republicans in the senate suggesting that maybe they would not let Hillary Clinton fill any Supreme Court seats for four years. Maybe they would keep that seat open and leave the Supreme Court at eight for four years. I could see some republicans saying why do we have to allow joe biden to appoint any judges at all . What if we tell him that you can only appoint publican judges . You could even extend that to the cabinet. They may say that we have already seen that Lindsey Graham may be willing to look for some of joe bidens cabinet officials if they are the right person, if they are not too crazy liberal. You can get into a long, extended, trona negotiation. Over confirmation of his cabinet officials. Aboutesident has to fill 4000 positions in the executive ranch. 1200 of those have to have senate confirmation. Thatcould just shutdown process. Could use the vacancies asked to fill a lot of those appointments. There are some rules he has to follow that who gets to be in it but he could move pretty aggressively on that front if he gets that kind of stonewall but democrats that unless take what those seats, we could be in for a long time of extraordinary gridlock within washington between congress and the white house. That was paul joining us for this discussion. For those who did not vote or maybe you are supporting another cabinet, you can text us as well. Was a person supporting Bernie Sanders in this process or someone who was looking for more progressive policies, what am i looking for from the president elect today . I think joe biden definitely took great pains since he became the defective nominator bring those people into the party. Or is he going to look for people who have a view about economic matters that doesnt come from wall street. Andsecretary of health newman services, thats going to be an important decision because even if the Supreme Court does strike down the Affordable Care the department of hhs is going to have to do a lot of things to try to enhance the number of people who have health care coverage. Another thing theyre going to be watching is the executive orders that come out in the early days. Were getting information that the Incoming Biden Administration wants to undo a did. F orders that trump the question is, if he doesnt have the senate in democratic hands, how aggressively is biden going to move to move forward on some of those progressive goals, using whatever tools are at his disposal within the executive branch . The progressives during the campaign found a lot of reason to be as happy as possible with joe biden. This is important to remember. If you look around at the progressive and the democratic parties, they worked their tails off to get joe biden elected. Im not sure, had the nominee been Bernie Sanders that the centrists would have worked as hard, but they did it. They were very realistic, i think. There have been years in the past where people on the left said i am going to Vote Third Party because this is the lesser of two evils. You heard almost no one on the left saying that now. Essentially a is national emergency, we need to get rid of donald trump. Biden did a good job of keeping them in the fold, but now they will be trying to make sure that he is being as progressive as possible. One thing also about this when out of the things many of them realized is biden is pretty malleable and susceptible to pressure, but in a good way. He is not somebody like sanders who has believed the same 10 things for his entire career. He positions himself at the center of the Democratic Party. He is a guy who wants to make deals. He does not say if i do not get these specific things i will take my ball and go home. He has been open to pressure, willing to make a compromise and if you are a progressive, that can be good or be bad. That means you might be able to exercise influence to try to pull him left. They should feel that they successfully did that in the primaries. The joe biden of 2020 is more progressive than Hillary Clinton was four years ago or barack obama was. The public option is a perfect example. In 2009 when obama took office, that was something obama himself said. The 2020 version of joe biden, that was the centerpiece of his health care plan. Host lets hear from some callers. This is joy. She is a supporter of the president elect. Caller [indiscernible] host joy, i am going to have to stop you there. Your connection if you could try to move around and see if you can get a better connection. Up until that point, lets get to rosa, in brunswick, georgia, a supporter of joe biden. Good morning. Caller how important is georgia going to be for the upcoming georgia 2021 election . Host thank you. Guest the entire political world is going to go down there. 2021 election . Host thank you. Guest the entire political world is going to go down there. You will have 10 to 15 people a day knocking on your door trying to get you to vote one way or another. Up fornate seats are races. If the democrats win them both, the senate will be 5050. If republicans win one or both of them, then they have control of the senate. To sayot an exaggeration that the fate of joe bidens presidency rests on what happens in georgia in january. Every ad on tv will be about these senate races. There will be a huge mobilization effort on the ground. That itself will be something extraordinary like we have never seen before. Get ready because you are going to be under siege. If you love politics, it will be good and if you do not, it may be something of a nightmare. Host from mechanicsville, new york, a supporter of president trump. Paul, i read your articles and i like them. I have a statement to make. I voted for trump. I really think of bidens presidency for the next four years is going to be under a cloud. I think there are permanent divisions in the country. No other president in modern history had to face the obstacles that donald trump had to face. Was corrosive. I have never seen anything like it in my life. Twitter, the new york times, even the washington post, constant bashing of trump. E was not being treated fairly you also have big tech as i mentioned. T recently the polls come came out. Voter suppression is something we need to be concerned about. 17 point lead in wisconsin and he won by a small margin there, biden. One of the things that is most concerning, at least among people i spoke to, was the president elects relationship relationship to the chinese. He will need to take a strong posture regarding our relationship with china. Host john from new york. Ahead. Dman, go guest we have a situation that is going to continue where we have some nonoverlapping media universes where people live. If you are somebody in the conservative media universe ended lives there every day, you would have heard that and lives there every day, you would have heard that biden is the one that is corrupt. Thatacts just do not bear out. We never got the full picture of Donald Trumps conflict of conflicts of interest. Showed somerns rather extraordinary things. There was an effort on the part of trump himself signed they republicans to say that joe biden was corrupt and his son did all kinds of terrible things. There is a reason it never worked. There just was not enough there there. You can try to sort of jenna bus scandal out of whole cloth and up a scandal out of whole cloth, but then you have to give up the goods. If you do not have any facts that will actually show something people need to be concerned about, in the end it will not go somewhere. Republicans tried so hard to come up with a scandal that would be on the order of iran contra or watergate or some of the big scandals of the past. They would find something that went wrong in then agency somewhere that was not within 100 miles of the white house and then hold hearings after hearings. There were eight congressional investigations of the benghazi, which was a terrible thing and four people died, but it was not a scandal of malfeasance on the part of barack obama or the administration. Americanse 245,000 who have died of coronavirus into there have been no congressional investigations of been noand there have congressional investigations of that. I hope there will be. One thing we will see over the next four years is within that conservative media universe there will be all kinds of stories that come up where somebody in the department of agriculture did not collate the report correctly and if republicans retain control of the senate there will be senate investigations. They will try to turn it into a scandal that it will be about as effective as the efforts the Republican Senate made in creating a scandal out of whatever was going on with hunter biden in ukraine. Next call, eleanor in new jersey, a supporter of the president elect. Biden and hisort administration. After following president s in my 88 years from Franklin Delano supportt and eleanor, i all the president s in the Democratic Party except for a few republicans that i truly loved and honor. If you watch the body language of every president we have ever had, look into their eyes when isy speak, you can tell who truthful and who is deceitful. We all bleed red in this country , black white or blue. I am totally in favor of every First Responder as a democratic person. We need to look after each other in this country. We need to make concessions and we have to love their neighbors as ourselves. Thank you for listening and i hope america is listening. Host that is eleanor. Guest those are wonderful sentiments. We can premuch predict how joe biden is going to act as president. He will try to get republicans to join with him, but there is a fundamental substantive problem with that. We have this myth that if everyone would just put aside their petty partisanship bend get in the room and rolled up their sleeves they would be able partisanship and roll uphe same room and their sleeves they would be able to solve all the problems, but they have fundamentally different ways of solving our problems. These are not really bridge bull gaps. It is not about can we just e gaps. Bridgeabl it is not about to we just decide. One of the Big Questions about how divisive things are you can have a situation where everyone is not vilifying their theirs and trying to get particular policy vision enacted by in a way that is civil and polite, but one of the Big Questions will be what happens within the republican . Trump may be gone but there trumpism will still persist. Watch the people who would like to run for president four years from now. If you look at people like ted cruz, tom cotton, josh hawley, what haley, keep an eye on kind of tone they take on. There will be many in the Republican Party who want to distance themselves from trump. He was particularly unpopular. They will see their path to per their path to success perhaps in a revision to a normal republican. There will be people who look at the party as it is now and to say trumpism is still very inerful and i need to mimic a stylistic away what he did, which means i need to bombastic and insult people and vilify democrats and that is what will get me support from that great bass that loved donald trump and is still there. That great base that loved donald trump and is still there. There will be push and pull within the democrat within the Republican Party to determine which direction they will go. Waldman, our next hugo gurdon. Trump lost ground among his deplorables, but agree with republican support in every other ethnic group. What do you think of that assessment . Guest it is quite remarkable. It will take us a while to unpack what happened. We have all seen some of the weaknesses in polling, and it will be difficult to tease out in future poles that we take, exactly what happened future , exactly whattake happened. This is one of the strangest stories of this election. One of the interesting things you saw is that it seems at some point Trump Campaign may have realized this was happening. If you notice during the course of this campaign, especially in the last couple of months, trump did not talk about immigration at all. Was very different than he was four years ago. He was not out there talking about immigrant criminals that would rape your daughters and kill your family. That rhetoric disappeared. It was as if they realized that in places like Miamidade County in florida they were picking up support from latino subgroups and they did not want to endanger it. He had a racist appeal to other on other grounds. He spent a lot of time talking about how he had to protect the suburbs from low income people. It was rhetoric right out of the 1960s, but that seemed to fail. He seems to have a misunderstanding of what the suburbs are in america, that it thet like how it was in 1950s. The people there, their biggest concern is not keeping people out of their communities. On immigration, that rhetoric disappeared. One of the things it reveals is that the latino population is diverse and contains different subcommunities that look at this different. Places joe biden overwhelmingly one latinos. There was a big backlash overwhelmingly won latinos. There was a big backlash against trumps policy. It may have helped him win georgia, but then you had a situation in florida where trump did well with cubanamerican communities. It was a much more complicated picture and it will take us a while to figure out exactly what happened, but that was certainly without question one of the most fascinating things that happened this year. Host lets hear from robert. You are on with paul waldman. Go ahead. Caller yes her. I just wanted to yes sir. I just want to tell the president ii like to dedicate h. Dire straits. So far away from me. Thank you. Host ok. Mr. Waldman, any response to that . , i dont know what song people might want to dedicate to the president. Host let me ask you this. You talked about results of this election. We sell republican seats gain in the house. How much of that is a concern to you . What does that mean as far as readership elections in Nancy Pelosis tenure as House Speaker . She said before she wanted to serve one more term. She could have one more shot to do the thing she does best which is passing legislation. I dont know if anyone is going to bother to challenge her. If they do, they will lose. Her hold on the Democratic Caucus and the house of representatives is absolutely secure. I dont think theres any concern about that. In terms of the losses the democrats suffered, we have seen some sniping between the progressives and the centrist and the party. Some of the centrist members are saying its because they were saddled with these things the progressive members said so that the fact that the representative from seattle, she calls herself a socialist and therefore that would be a problem for a democratic member of Congress Running an election 3000 miles away. The trouble with that is that if you look at who lost among the democrats in the house this year , almost all of them are people you absolutely would have expected to lose. You take a member like kendra horn in oklahoma, it looks like shes going to lose. By 14strict, trump won points in 2016 and probably will win by a similar amount this year. You see over again people who were swept in and the democratic wave in 2018 managed to win in republican districts. 2020, its a president ial year. Turnout among republicans and democrats. If you are representing a heavily republican district, you can moderate your positions, you can try to convince your constituents that you are a centrist, but its going to be really hard for you to win that election. Happens at the president ial level and the house level are almost exactly the same. Theres a really tight correlation. Be plenty of democrats who represented republican districts and republicans who represented democratic districts. Every single race is nationalized now. Its not surprising at all. Democrats came in hoping there would be this gigantic repudiation of donald trump and it would sweep down the ballot and they would pick up seats and hold onto the seats they gained in 2018 in those republican districts. It just wasnt going to happen. We can see it was absolutely predictable that a lot of those democrats who won the surprising victories, there was not going to be anyway they were going to hold on and a high turnout president ial year election. Host before we let you go, what do you think you are going to write . People in my business have been asking ourselves, if donald trump goes, how are we going to have enough to say every day . He was nothing if not a fountain of news. I think the subject im going to turn my attention to is this transition in the new biden administration. What are they going to be able to do, where are they going to move ideologically. What are the issues that are going to be most important to them because those are the things that will ultimately affect our lives. I think thats the most important subject for the next year or two. Host you can see Paul Waldmans work at the american prospect. Cspans washington journal. Every day we take your calls live on the air on the news of the day and we discussed policy issues that impact you. Coming up monday morning, we will talk about campaign 2020 and congress. First, a senior staff writer for the hill newspaper joins us to discuss how the recent election could affect the house. Achieve Congressional Correspondent will talk about how the election could impact the senate. Live washington journal, at 7 00 eastern, monday morning. And be sure to go in the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, and tweets. This is a look outside the Trump National golf club in virginia where the president return for a second day this weekend previous supporters gathered outside the entrance, waiting for his motorcade to emerge on its way back to the white house. [cheering] [cheering] [cheering] a legal challenge by nevada republicans to halt the vote count was blocked on friday. According to a story in the reno is at journal, a federal judge rebuffed nevada republicans latest effort to slow the vote count. And clark cannon, which includes las vegas. Earlier today, the trunk him Trump Campaign held it News Conference on allegations of widespread voter irregularities