202 7488001. Democrats, 202 7488000. Independents, 202 7488002. That michigang story yesterday, a special line for michigan residents, 202 7488003. That is also the number that you morning. Us a text this if you do, please include your name and where you are from. Otherwise, catch up with us on social media, on twitter cspanwj, and on facebook facebook. Com cspan. Good friday morning to you. More on that Governor Gretchen Whitmer and michigan story. Today storya yesterday about a yougov poll. 7 ,d that nearly half, 40 disagreed with the idea that the election is likely to be fair and honest and significantly more than half, 51 , will not generally agree with on who is a legitimately elected president of the United States. That online poll conducted october 1 through second. It also noted that another found poll of 1500 voters that 56 found they expected the an increased in violence as a result of the election. Those results by yougov published in usa today. A politico, this focusing on pole about 6000 americans that came out in september. That poll noted that in september, 44 of republicans and 41 of democrats said there would be a little justification of violence if the other partys nominee wins the election, both up from a june poll, when 35 of republicans and 37 of democrats expressed that same sentiment. The story goes on to say there is a larger increase in the chair of democrats and republicans who believe there will either be a lot or a great deal of justification for violence if the party were to lose in november. The share of republicans viewing substantial justification for violence at their side loses jumped from 15 in june to 20 in september, while the share of democrats jumped from 16 in june to 19 in september. That is why we are asking this morning are you concerned about Political Divisions in this country . Will spurnk they violence before or after the election . 202 7488001 for republicans, democrats, 202 7488000. Ndependents, 202 7488002 and, again, considering the story out of michigan yesterday, a special line for michigan residents, 202 7488003. We will get right to your calls this morning. Bob up first, out of pittsburgh. Bob, good morning. Caller good morning. I think a lot of that violence is spread by the news. Everyoneer thing, should listen to, Michelle Obama gave a speech about no violence for black lives matter. A teenager was shot and killed by a black cop. He was a black teenager. They went into a white neighborhood, broke windows, and it was on tv. See what she did, she put out a dog whistle for them to start rioting again. That is the way i look at it. Host bob, to this other question we asked, how do we lower the temperature in this country, especially right now at the height of an election . What can we do right now . Caller tell people like Michelle Obama to keep her opinion to herself. Cbs, abc,hat, nbc, cnn, msnbc, they dont even show these riots on tv. Pennsylvania this morning. Duane in north carolina. Good morning, duane. Are you concerned about Political Violence . Caller well, i do believe that there will be violence, myardless of who wins, but comment that i wanted to express this morning is that my sign was over at my house over the weekend, and we was talking about the people that made less than 400,000 a year would not have a tax increase if mr. Biden won the election. And my sign told me that im retired and he told me, if that my taxesss, for 2021 will go up at least 2000 if he eliminates the trump tax cut. And i did not realize this, because i was under the impression that my taxes was not going up, based on what they had said. And people need to realize out there, everybody, that if you vote for biden, you are going to be paying, in 2021, you are going to be paying out of your pocket over 2000 more than you are going to pay this year. Host that is duane in north the thoughts. Ing back to your thoughts on the issue of Political Division in this country, whether you think they will spur violence. We have that number for brett michigan residents for michigan residents. Candy is good morning. In lake city. Candy good morning. , caller good morning. Of thatat did you think story yesterday . Caller i dont know what to think about it, but i will say this, if it is something that really did happen, the president of the United States of america is the commander in chief, so he therefore kind of runs the fbi a little bit, so if it is true and it didnt happen, it is very sad, he has to authorize the investigation for months to watch over the governor. There is too much division. I have faith in the American People, and i think just because the media shows us pockets of violence, i think, overall, our country is going to stand up and do the right thing. Whole countrythe is engulfed in racism and violence. But the fbi has to approve protecting together and to uncover this. Host candy, President Trump made that point on twitter yesterday, when talking about it, that his Justice Department was leading that investigation, foiled that dangerous plot against the governor. He went on to say, rather than thank me, she called me a white supremacist. But candy, you say you are confident that the country is going to stand up and do the right thing. What gives you confidence right now in that . American, i love my country, and i just believe in the American People, that we are going to do the right thing, that they can see through this, show us the bad se and not the good i just have confidence in the American People. And i am so thankful that whatever was out there, that nobody did get hurt, though. And i do support the police. I think they are awesome. I am thankful i live in a country that we d there is an electoral process, we have laws, and you have to think about all the lawabiding citizens that have suffered because of all the violence and the writing that has happened. Those are not peaceful protests. We have the right to protest peacefully. We dont have the right to destroy other people and other citizens property and businesses and wellbeing. Host candy, thank you for the call out of lake city, michigan this morning. Joint on the phone now by Detroit Free PressLansing Bureau chief. Most of the stories coming out about this plot, to kidnap the governor. Mr. Egan, take us through what we know so far, how far it got before it was foiled. Know isk, well, what we there were a number of conversations that were going on, both in person, and, in some cases, encrypted over private facebook groups, discussing a number of plots, including one to kidnap a governor, possibly from her Summer Vacation home. That is one that seems to advance the furthest to the point where a highvoltage taser was purchased, night goggles. There was supposed to have been a purchase of explosives taking place this week. There was discussion about designating a bridge near her summer cottage to divert police. There was actually evening surveillance that had occurred on two occasions of her summer home. Thats thats about what there was a know, lot of talk, which, you know, sometimes you can ask the question were they just talking . Or was there going to be action . But there were certainly some element of action taking place, including purchases of weapons and surveillance of the governors home. Host and now 20 individuals have been charged in this case. The group, the Militia Group, the name, the wolverine what do we know about that and how widespread the movement is in michigan . Watchmene wolverine was founded by two of the individuals that have been charged in this case. Theres some association with, you know, what has been come to be known as the boogaloo apparently ach is codeword word for a second civil war, you know, there is anarchy with some of these Groups Associated with some of these movements, talk of, you know, sparking some kind of a war that would allow, you know, people that believed only in the bill of rights, then to sort of, you know, create a new society among themselves. You know, a lot of the stuff is pretty far out there, but michigan has long been a hotbed of militia activity. I mean, when you go back, there were ties to the Oklahoma City bombing in michigan. A number of years ago, the feds brought a major indictment against a Militia Group called hutari that were apparently plotting to blow up police funerals. That went south, although people spend a considerable amount of time in custody. Really no convictions resulted in that case. It gets difficult at times to say well, you know, this was just crazy talk, or it was action, and then, you know, it verythe feds in a difficult position, because if they do not act like some of this talk that looks like it is proceeding to action, then, you know, the commentary always leader is going to be, well, there were all these warning signs. Why didnt somebody do something . Host explain the emergency orders that are in place in michigan, how they played into and whole story yesterday, are the emergency orders in michigan significantly different than emergency orders in other states . Guest well, that is an interesting topic, because on friday, the Michigan Supreme Court struck down as unconstitutional the main emergency law that the governor legalen using to as a underpinning for these orders, so a large number of these orders have basically been declared unconstitutional. Now, many of them are backed up by separate orders under another statute, but to get to your original question, yes, there is definitely a link here. The governor, like in many states, i would say michigan was probably more aggressive ban many states in imposing a stayathome order, which was imposed in march, lifted june 1. Many businesses were closed completely. This was certainly a point of contention among the alleged conspirators. There was talk about, you know, Governor Whitmer being a tyrant, that she had taken absolute power. A number of the people, at least two or three of the people that have been charged in this were photographed at the capitol, at demonstrations that were taking place against the stayathome order, or, in one case, a second arose,nt rally that also so there is definitely a link between the emergency orders and this anger that these men were apparently feeling, but, yes, there has been a recent twist on, you know, technically, it could be right now that michigan is the only state in the union that does not have a statewide state of emergency in the moment, in light of this friday Michigan Supreme Court ruling, which is a 43 ruling on a partisan line basis. Host what is next in this case . Are we expecting more charges coming . What do we know about stepped up security around the governor now . Guest um, it sounds like more charges are possible. You know, there were references in some of the affidavits that were filed to other planned kidnappings. You know, the question always is, you know, at what point, again, was this talk proceeding into action . But there are certainly a number of arraignments taking place yesterday. Has been stepped up for the governor in recent weeks. There was a new, high fence erected around her official residence in lansing. Normally, this is something we would have really noticed more. Governor rick snyder, the former republican governor, after the flint water crisis, there were a number of threats made against his life, and we noticed a huge increase in security around him. You know, because of the pandemic, the governor really has not been out and about as much as a governor normally would be, so other than seeing them erect that new fence around the residence, the stepped up security was not as apparent, because of the pandemic. But certainly there have been a number of extra efforts to protect her and her family. She is married with two daughters of her own and two husband, who is her second husband. Host paul egan, with the Detroit Free Press. I know it was a busy day for you yesterday. Thank you for starting your day early with us. We appreciate the time. Guest thanks for having me on. Host staying on the michigan story for a moment more here, these are the remarks from Governor Gretchen Whitmer yesterday, reacting to the charges that were released by federal authorities. [video clip] Governor Whitmer this should be a moment for national unity, pulled together as americans to meet this challenge head, with the same might and muscle that put a man on the moon. Soon, the humanity in one another, and doing our part to help our country get through this. Instead, our head of state has spent the past seven months denying science, ignoring his own health experts, stoking , andust, fomenting anger giving comfort to those who spread fear and hatred and division. Just last week, the president of the United States stood before the American People and refused to condemn White Supremacists and hate groups like these two michigan Militia Groups. Stand back and standby, he told them. Stand back and stand by. Hate groups heard the president s words not as a rebuke but as a rallying cry, as a call to action. When our leaders speak, their words matter. They carry weight. When our leaders meet with, encourage, or fraternize with domestic terrorists, they legitimize their actions, and they are complicit. Host Governor Gretchen Whitmer of michigan yesterday. We mentioned President Trump tweeting a response. It came in a series of tweets at 9 30 p. M. Eastern last night. Here they are from the president. Governor whitmer of michigan has done a terrible job, the president said. She locks down the entire state except for her husbands voting activities. Federal Justice Department foiled a plot, and rather than say thank you, she called me a white supremacist, anarchists, burn downnd mobs that democratrun cities. What i will always do as your president , governor wimmer, open up your state can open up your schools, open up your churches. That was the president on twitter last night, asking you your first hour of washington journal, how concerned are you about this country spurring violence, and what can you do to turn down the temperature . ,an and winchester pennsylvania, good morning. Glad that the am government is safe, and i am glad that Law Enforcement was able to get in and, you know, get in and get those people under arrest. Even after that happened and President Trump sent out another tweet, it was a very nasty tweet. Says a lot of things, and theres people out there that act on some of the things he says. And as far as the protests, the protests theres peaceful protesters, and sometimes it seems at the end of their protesting, when they leave, these opportunists come in, which burned down things, loot things. They are not part of the protesters. Thats other hangers on people. Do alll come in and these things, and that is why and then fox news shows that part. Peacefulot show the people who protest and chant or maybe sing or something. They dont show them. Violenceys turn to the. And, you know, it is just disgusting. And the president could have reached out and said something nice about the governor of michigan. I mean, it is just nasty. Host jan in pennsylvania. This is barry in wisconsin. Good morning. You are next. Caller good morning. Yeah, President Trumps response to her was nasty, but she had basically just called him a white supremacist. , itourse what happened sound like white supremacist, farright, scary people, to Governor Whitmer. It is horrible. Of course it was horrible, and thank god she was ok. And yes, of course, i was trump aide given a nice, warm, fuzzy answer, like biden did, sounding much more president ial. But i am very concerned that the Political Divisions will stir violence as a result of whatever the election the national election, you know, president ial election brings, from both the farright and the farleft. You were reading an article earlier, though, that was talking about the percentages of people worried about violence, and i think in the that you did not read, it was talking about i think it was twice as many republicans are worried about democratic violence, spurred violence, as democrats versus republicans or whatever. And then come again, this is my republican opinion, and whether or not it is right come about from my viewpoint, it appears theres ahope small percentage of republicans that are extreme right, like the White Supremacists and all that stuff, and in the more extreme left democrats who kinda feel like they have to resort to violence to be heard and to get change. So, again, as a republican, i am more concerned if trump won when, that there would be would win, that there would be more violence from democrats, then if biden wins, which would really bomb out half the country. But that is my opinion. Host the story from politico, this is the very you were referring to peer i will read it for you. The numbers from this nations gay poll of 6000 americans that they are talking about, about partisan ideological partisan, the numbers are higher among ideological partisan come among democrats who i did buy is very liberal, 26 said there will be a great justification for violence if the president if their candidate loses the presidency compared to 7 if they had and if i i simply liberal. Of republicans who identify as very conservative, 16 said they believe there would be a great deal of justification for violence if the gop candidate loses compared to 7 of those identifying as simply conservative. This means the ideological extremes of each party are two times to four times more apt