Are in the eastern or central. Ime zones, 202 7488000 if youre in the mountain or pacific time zones, 202 7488001. Send us a text. 202 7488003 is that number. A very good wednesday morning. You can start calling you now as we show you part of President Trumps speech yesterday in phoenix, arizona, highlighting his administrations response to the coronavirus pandemic. [video clip] we do all of these tests and we find pockets and we find people we find cases and they say that cases have jumped instead of saying what a job we are doing with testing. We did the job with testing and we did ventilators and we came up with tests. We have 70 different types of tests. It is a lot of tests. Other countries that have done very well with testing, they call us, and they say nobody has been able to do the job you have done. The l. A. Ones who cannot say that are the Fake News Media people the only ones who cannot say that are the Fake News Media people. [booing] someday it will be recognized by history. Our actions and our selfless sacrifice saved hundreds of thousands of lives. We had to do it and we did the right thing. Now we opened. We have to get it open. I said we have to get it open. People get sick from the other, it is not just from the virus. They get sick from all of the other things that happen. You know what i mean. Tocut through red tape accelerate breakthrough therapies and vaccines. We will have the vaccine very soon. We distribute 1. 5 billion pieces of personal equipment. We unleashed the medical and logistical power of the United States military, and thanks to our efforts, not a single american who needed a ventilator has been denied a ventilator. Host that was the president in arizona yesterday. Back on capitol hill, this was the topony fauci, Infectious Disease expert saying where he believes the United States is when it comes to the response to covid19. [video clip] it is a mixed bag. We have a large country. Very heterogeneous. A difference between the new york metropolitan area and wyoming. We have been hit badly. Anyone who looks at the numbers. We have had over 120,000 deaths. 2. 5 million infections. It is a serious situation. In some respects, we have done very well. Right now in the new york metropolitan area, which has been hit extraordinarily hard, has done very well in bringing the cases down and using the guidelines we have carefully put together to try and carefully reopen their city and their state. In other areas of the country, we are now seeing a disturbing surge of infections that looks like it is a combination. One of the things is an increase in community spread. That is something im quite concerned about. You know that this is been something that has been in the press over the past couple of days. We were going down from 30,000 to 25 to 20, now we stayed flat, and now we are going up. A couple days ago there were 30,000 new inflections. That is troublesome. The way you address that, and ive said this over and over again, is you have to have the manpower, the system, the testing to identify, isolate, and contact tracer so that when you see those increases, you can understand where they are coming from and you can do something about them. Right now, the next couple of weeks will be critical in our ability to address the surging piercing in florida, texas, arizona, and in other states. They are not the only ones having a difficulty. The bottom line, it is a mixed bag. Some good, and some we have a problem with. Faucidr. Anthony yesterday before the house energy and Commerce Committee. If you want to watch either of those two events in their entirety, you can do so on our website, cspan. Org. Asking you what you think of the Trump Administration response to the coronavirus pandemic. Phone lines split up regionally. We are also looking for your comments via social media. This is bilking on twitter. The Trump Administrations response has been totally inadequate. They are treating it as a nuisance than the Health Emergency it is and we are suffering because of it. This from friend on facebook. He left it up to the governors of each state. That is who all the liberal democratic snowflake should be bashing, not our president. Wasople seem to forget he downplaying it is just the flu when response was critical. Thousands have died on his watch. Wante hateful man with not empathetic bone in his body. Looking for your phone calls. Dean out of louisville, kentucky. Good morning. Republicanm a disturbed with the leadership of our country. We are International Emergency and donald trump does not wear a mask. [indiscernible] they are turning around and they are leaving. Another thing disturbed is in vietnam donald trump was awol, he was a draft dodger. How can i vote for a draft dodger who would not fight for the his country. God bless you. Host dean in kentucky. Kentucky one of the States Holding primaries yesterday along with new york and virginia with all of the mailin ballots that have happened, no expectations for knowing the results of the races anytime soon. It could take days or longer. A key race to watch, the democratic primary in kentucky, the Senate Primary to see who will take on mitch mcconnell, the majority leader in the senate. A lot of focus on that race. Amy mcgrath, former marine pilot in that race running in a crows a close race against representative charles booker. Today we will see what happens as results continue to come in. Yolanda is next out of new jersey. Caller good morning. Tom calling in response President Trumps response to coronavirus. I feel he does not respond appropriately to the pandemic that is against is globally, not just in the United States. It is not just our nation. It is a real pandemic and he should be showing leadership by wearing a mask and leading the American People. Testingow to support and we are still lagging behind. We are slowly catching up but it is changing and we did not respond in the timeframe we should have responded in the beginning. We are continuing to play catch up. It is a sad situation. We have a president of the United States not showing leadership by wearing a mask to show it is a real thing that is happening. Is a headline, the lead editorial in todays Washington Post saying wearing a mask is not a political statement. Do you think wearing a mask has become political . Caller in the mind of donald trump only. But for the American People it should not be a political statement. It should be something that is done like joe biden is doing. He is observing the rules set by cdc. And staying away from crowds. Certainly crowds in stores. Host that is yolanda out of new jersey. A few more comments from social media. This is kimberly on facebook. Saying the administration has done what they can with the administration resented along the way. It is up to me to keep myself safe and healthy. Angela saying the u. S. Is only 5 of the worlds population but we have 25 of the global cases and deaths. , saying from winnie the response has been totally incompetent, the numbers speak for themselves, as have his actions, especially engaging in indoor rallies. Speaking of the numbers around the world, plenty of the stories in todays papers focusing on the latest numbers, this from the front page of the wall street journal. The total number of confirmed coronavirus cases worldwide surpassed 9. 1 million this week with more than 2. 3 million cases in the United States come and the nations death toll reach more than 121,000 according to data from Johns Hopkins university. The most populous states in the country, california and texas, each reported more than 5000 new infections, breaking their previous records. Arizona also one of those states breaking their daily records. Taking your phone calls, asking about the trumpet ministration response to the coronavirus pandemic. Ny and like a stir, ohio jenny in lancaster ohio. Go ahead. Say trumpwanted to needs to find an outdoor place and he needs to have regular people like me ask questions, not newscasters. I cannot think of the name. Question would you ask him if you could ask him a question . Caller i would ask him if he could have his rallies outside and spread the people apart and have a few people. You do not need a big audience for Something Like that. He needs to cut down the audience and he needs to do it , maybe at the white house. Just regular people like me. I think he just told a bad joke. Have you ever seen a community a comedian get upstaged who were not funny because they did not time it right . He wants to calm people down and say im not afraid of the virus, i am not. You do the best you do. You put a mask on. What i do not understand is people are walking outside with masks on, you do not catch it like that. Host you say you think he told a joke. Focusu talking about the this week on his comments about slowing down testing and that rally in tulsa . Caller yes. I think he told a bad joke. Sometimes things do not come out the way you want. Sayingpeople would quit people are blaming him. ,his country is falling apart tearing down statues. It might be a civil war. You never know. I think they will find a treatment. I think things should calm down and that is all he was trying to do. He told a bad joke. Host on that note, the president was asked as he was leaving the white house on his way to arizona if he was joking about slowing down testing. This is what the president said yesterday morning. [video clip] let me make it clear. We have the greatest Testing Program anywhere in the world. We test that are than anybody in the world. Our tests are the best in the world and we have the most of them. By having more tests, we find more cases. Plus, 25 million test. Think of that. Other countries did one million, 2 million. We did 25 million. Way more than any other country. Therefore we will have more cases. By having more cases, it sounds bad, but what it is is we are finding people, many of those people are not sick. They may be young people. What has happened is because of all the cases we find, we have a very low mortality rate, just about the best in the world. That is the advantage the testing, along with other things. Remember this. The reason we have more cases than other countries is because our testing is so much. That was thest president yesterday morning at the white house. On that hearing on capitol hill, the president s top medical advisors on his Coronavirus Task force were asked about the president s comments about slowing down testing. Heres one of the headlines. Note dr. Ey, fauci, no orders to slow virus testing. Here is dr. Fauci yesterday. [video clip] to my knowledge, none of us have ever been told to slow down on testing. That is a fact. In fact, we will be doing more testing. , butnly testing specifically identify people in contact trace, and also much more surveillance, if you want to get your arms around and understand exactly what is going on in community spread. It is the opposite. We will be doing more testing. Let me ask the same question. Do you agree with the president on this . You think we should be testing more people. He did not want to talk about the president , tell us if you think we should be testing more people. As dr. Fauci said, all of us continue to be committed to increasing timely access to detecting. We have made an improvement. We still a ways to go. One of the key things is surveillance, expanding surveillance because of the asymptomatic nature of the infection. Atdoing so, we are looking ways that can substantially enhance testing by pulling samples. Are doing 600,000 tests a day. That would samples bring it to 3 million tests a day. We are continuing to try to enhance testing. It is an underpinning of our response. Host dr. Anthony faucher and dr. Robert redfield, the director for the senator degrees control the center for Disease Control and prevention. They were also joined by the director of the food and drug ministration and the assistant secretary for health and Human Services administration. Getting a response this morning as we ask you about the Trump Administrations response to coronavirus. Josephine in livingston, new jersey. Good morning. Caller my concerns are economics. Europe is already making a decision they will ban russia, brazil, and the United States. They do not want us traveling there. They feel we are at the epicenter. They are doing better than we are. Ironically, who would have through,hat they went they are doing better than we are. I would say another thing. Keep in mind this is an election year. Itwill be one local will be the Republican Trump pence massacre because theyre going to be hundreds of ,housands of people sadly because they want to get elected, they are not worried about us. That is not leadership. Worried areine, how you in livingston, new jersey, estate that has been seeing its . Verages of new cases come down this is the map from Johns Hopkins university Coronavirus Task force to get your state your caller let me put it to you this way. Can. E doing as much as we i look at florida. Now it is the young people who felt infallible. It is now between 19 and 29. They have become spreaders. We who are older are vulnerable. There is no way around it. In 1957,s 13 years old we had the asian flu. 1. 1 Million People died. I was so sick as a child for two weeks. It happens. It kills. When i hear people say is that a political statement Wearing Masks . It should not be if you want to be alive. If youre taking this im infallible, it will never infect me, i will not get sick. Player, hethe tennis felt exactly like trump. It will never affect me. Guess what. He just got the covid19. Now the tennis players have got it. It is spreading all around the world and to deny it exists because you think your infallible, i hate to say it. You will pay a high price for that acre in spirit thank you. Host will fit you will pay a high price for that date and rents. You will pay a high price for that ignorance. Thank you. Host this is what it looks like in florida right now. President trump sang the new case map is not necessarily the map we should be looking at. Saying cases are only up because of the new numbers of testing. Mortality rates are down. The president focusing on those numbers. Well be talking more about covid19, about the medical side of it in our next segment of washington journal. We will be joined by dr. Ira breite to answer your continued questions you might have on the medical side. We are spending this first hour focusing on your thoughts on the administrations response. 202 7488000 if you are an eastern or central time zones. If youre in the mountain or pacific time zones. By the way, to show you a map of what the president says is the more important number, this map this chart is a chart of new coronavirus debts in the United States by day. It says daily tracking chart in the Washington Post. You can see that curve is what the president is focusing on, the cumulative death rate as of yesterday at 8 00. According to the numbers the Washington Post uses. Stephen in california, good morning. Thanks for getting up early for us. Caller my concern it is almost like genocide for old people, people who are sick, and people who are poor. About getting food and stuff like that. The whole thing couldve have been stopped in the beginning because they had a task force to stop things at the source. He disbanded all of that. Now he is playing like it is not a disease and it is not a health issue for other people, telling people not to wear masks. It is insane. It is genocide. Host that question we asked her call earlier. Has wearing a mask become political . Caller yes. And it is a health issue is not a political issue. You want to stop the spread or not. If youre not old and youre not sick and you do not have those , our nation says forget you, you are expendable. That is unamerican. A frontpage picture in the Washington Post. You can see Anthony Faucher you can see dr. Anthony fauci wearing his mask. At the same time the desk he was testifying of was being cleaned by one of the capital employees, also wearing a mask with lysol wipes and Hand Sanitizer wiping down the desk. Tommy is next out of virginia. Good morning. Caller my comment is the president and his Administration Still does not seem to be taking the serious. It seems like it is still about him. He is so narcissistic he believes is a conspiracy. Instead of listening to science and researchers, what he does is if the infection is going down, he takes credit, if theyre going up people in the governors. His supporters believe the same thing. Thank you for taking the time to listen to my comments. Host how are things in virginia, in central virginia, virginia, state any great next week to enter phase three of reopening. Caller i guess because we are so rural and we do not have much close contact, i live in the country, i think weve had a few infections in the county i am in. Lynchburg has been up around 30, ive have not looked at the numbers. I think Governor Northam has done a good job. Based on the fact the president threatened to discontinue funding and stuff like that to help us, i think virginia has done well. Host thanks for the call. The Johns Hopkins University Dashboard is down to the county level. I believe you said you are campbell county, virginia. 32 confirmed cases throughout this pandemic so far in that county. One death in the county of campbell, virginia. That is how closely you can track the data on the Johns Hopkins University Dashboard, one of the websites weve been using quite a bit throughout this pandemic. Tom is in oklahoma. Caller my thing is i do not understand why we are sitting here letting this happen and letting this president spread and killt this virus people. He should be removed from office now, declared incompetent and office, removed from and we need to get somebody in who will start trying to save lives instead of trying to keep killing more people. It is ridiculous to me. Next out of is santa barbara, california. Good morning. Caller good morning. Longtime listener, almost 80 years old. I would like to come at this. I am an independent, a constitutionalist. I think what we need to remember is we are a republic of 50 sovereign states. The question this morning might have been better if you had asked how do you think the governors response is . The president , i do not think he can do anything as far as this goes. What he has done is he has follow the constitution and he has only used his powers when he has had to. When he does he gets criticized, and when he does not he gets criticized so he cannot win. We need to remember how i ourblic works how republic works. I think a lot of americans either do not know or do not understand or ignore it. To say the president is causing these deaths is crazy. Host to ask the question you wanted us to ask, how is Gavin Newsoms response . Caller i think his response has been excellent. We have our problems in some areas of the state, but i think he has done a fairly good job. I have no criticism. Is there governor you think has not done a good job . Caller i think the governors are doing the best they can do under the circumstances. We are getting a lot of conflicting information. Forget what the administration puts out. Every day somebody is putting some expert on that has a different opinion. It is all a matter of opinion. I think the people have a responsibility to keep themselves informed and to protect themselves. There is a personal responsibility we have to maintain. Eventually it will be up to the people how this ends up. That is joseph out of santa barbara, california. Coming up on 7 30 on the east coast. We ask you to continue to call in about the Trump Administrations response the coronavirus pandemic. 202 7488000 in the eastern or central time zone. 202 7488001 if youre in the mountain or pacific time zone. To give you a sense of what is happening in that building over my shoulder, today the senate is in at 10 00 a. M. The house will not be meeting on the floor for business, just a brief pro forma session scheduled today at 2 00. Plenty of action throughout the hallways of the house and a few we will be covering on cspan, including nancy pelosi and knaus Democrats Holding a News Conference to unveil the Patient Protection and Affordable Care enhancement act having to do with health care and changes to the health care. Live coverage beginning today at 10 00 on cspan. You can also watch on cspan. Org or listen on the cspan radio app. Also, the Judiciary Committee issued a number of subpoenas for a lot of attorneys that testified at a hearing. Political threats to prosecutable prosecutorial independence. Among the speakers, robert mueller. This is a happening at noon eastern starting on cspan. You can watch that online at cspan. Org and listen on the free cspan radio app. House,om the white President Trump holding a joint press conference with the polish president. 3 30 p. M. , expecting to cover that. You can look to our website at cspan. Org for coverage of that event. Back to your phone calls. Bonnie, modesto, california. You are next. Ood morning joint caller caller i am thinking donald trump is handling this virus like he does everything else. He uses chaos and confusion and his followers are using blind endurance. I do not know how may people he will kill. Confusing inery his leadership. Thank you very much. Host max is next out of oklahoma. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thanks for taking my call. I hear a lot of people calling in. You made a good point about the master being political. You can hear from the calls it has become political. When asked if it was political, the response was you can see joe bidens wearing the mask and trump is not wearing the mask. They will both use this as a political wedge. The argument has been backed into a corner if you look at what the cdc and who has said. ,ntil they have a vaccine everybody is at risk of getting it. As long as it goes, the 33 entages are up to 25 to and maybe even two thirds of the population are going to at least get the virus. The mask is important because not even the tell the top Health Organization can do anything about this. This is totally political because it is out of the hands of top experts. Host the front page of the Washington Times focuses on the issue you are talking about. Dr. Fauci asking fearless youths to think of others, saying he realizes young people want to go out after months of lockdowns but warns there would be dangers if they get too lax with social distancing and not wearing a max not wearing a mask. Testimony setting up what they call a jarring split screen with President Trump who spoke at a phoenix mega church full of concern with students who sat close together instead of six feet apart and few were Wearing Masks. We lost the caller from oklahoma but surely is next out of florida. Ey is next out of florida. Caller i want to make a comment out of the mask situation. Our President Trump wonderful. To the lady in california, i am not ignorant. I have three girls that are college education. A husband that has been in his job for 45 years. I am far from being ignorant. T i do not stand or stand what i do not understand is maybe mr. Biden is older and in worse health than our president is. He is not wearing a mask. He cannot speak in a microphone wearing a mask. Host you think wearing a mask is a sign of being fearful . Caller fearful for your health, yes. I wear a mask. I am 62. I wear a mask everywhere i go. Not only that, i wear gloves. I use Hand Sanitizer, i wash my hands, and the worst i think of the virus, it is awful we have to tell people to wash their hands. Vehicle sanitizer in my for 30 years. When i get gas i use gloves. I am a careful person. I am not a german folk. I am not a germophobe. I am not staying at home. I am on a farm. Have a cow that is my job. Host if a president ial candidate were to wear a mask, is it a sign they are careful person . You said you were a mask because you are careful person. Caller right. You cannot force a person to wear a mask. Some people do not have common sense to think about others as far as the young people in florida. They will go out and they will meet. Some will mask and some do not. That is where i am concerned about my safety. I take care of myself by wearing a mask. Masks from the energy and Commerce Committee hearing yesterday. Dr. Hony faucher Anthony Fauci a in exchange with republican congressman david mckinley. [video clip] you have criticized or contradicted what the president has said. You think he is being judged fairly . It depends what you mean. I worked in the white house and i believe everyone is doing what they possibly can to do with the need to do. Said i a newspaper article that as late as march 31, there was no consensus on Wearing Masks, and the president relies on your expertise. Do you now regret not advising people more forcefully wear masks earlier . We will play that game. Let me explain to you what happened back then. It should be a yes or a no. It is more than a yes or no by the tone of your question. I do not regret that. Let me explain what happened. At that time there was a paucity of equipment that our Health Care Providers needed to put themselves daily in harms way of taking care of people who are ill. We did not want to divert masks and ppe away from them to be used by the people. Now that we have enough. I have two more questions. Host dr. Anthony about yesterday dr. Anthony faucher at that hearing yesterday. Dr. Fauci coming up in a series of tweets about the president s Coronavirus Response, this yesterday. We did a great job on coronavirus, including a very early ban on china, ventilator production, and testing, which is by far the most and best in the world. We save millions of u. S. Lives yet the fate news refuses to knowledge this in a positive way. But they do give dr. Anthony about a high 70 they do give dr. Fauci a high 70 approval rating. With us doing all of these good things, why doesnt the lame stream media treat us as they should . Answer, because they are fake news. Virginia. D richmond, your next. Caller good morning. I am in richmond, virginia. We are doing pregood. Some people wear masks, some do not. Plant pposed service we have a post service plant. People generally have common sense to know how you should handle yourself. Are 7 billion people on the earth. 7 billion. , whenany people on earth youre Walking Around in crowds,f youve been in a big crowd you can smell peoples breath and some of these crowds. In richmond we have the perfect storm. We have protesters. We have the virus. We have all of this going on. Personally i feel like some of the protesters should realize there are maybe carrying the virus, and in a situation like that you are not doing yourself any good. I think everybody should wait and see what happens. This virus hit, and trump is acting like the rainmaker. If everything works all right he was correct, if it does not work out all right he was wrong. I expect better out of the federal government. The federal government has done a bad job as far as helping. Walk around richmond. Where yousome places can get tested, people with all of these clothes on and masks and shields. I cannot wear a mask. I am almost 80 years old. I wear them outside and smell the fresh air. Off. The summer enjoy yourself at home. We will talk about next year. Thank you. Host that is charles in richmond, virginia. Charles mentioned protests in richmond. Protesters looking for Police Reform. Some news on that effort on capitol hill today and in the coming days. First focusing on the senate at the Republican Police reform bill led by senator tim scott. This is from the New York Times. Senator democrats said they blocked the republican attempt to advance a narrow bill to encourage Police Departments to revise their practices, rejecting the measure as inadequate, setting up a clash that could mark the death of a fledgling congressional effort to address racial bias in Law Enforcement. It reflects electionyear politics, they say, bit by democrats they can gain more by blocking a fundamentally flawed measure than trying to salvage it, which could provide cover for republicans and mcconnell. Kentucky in the eyes of voters. The republican bill spearheaded by the parties loan africanamerican member in the chamber. Fastly different from the democratic measure. The democratic bill is supposed to pass the house on thursday. Mitch mcconnell says that package is going nowhere. President trump tweeting about senator scott and is built, saying today senator scott and the Senate Republicans have a great bill up for a vote. It will be great for people of color and police and in fact has majors police support, rebuilding trust and keeping communities safe. Hope to sign it into law as soon as possible. Isaac is next. Michigan. Your thoughts on the Coronavirus Response by the federal government. Caller good morning. Your producers that i had to make a comment about the federal response. Host we try to keep people on topic as we are having these conversations. Caller i listen to the scientist. I had a couple of questions. The lady from florida, a couple of callers ago, she mentioned she carried lysol and wipes. That was my question. Every time i watch a commercial hearing or something from the house or the senate, they always seem to have a supply of lysol or Hand Sanitizer or wipes. I cannot find that stuff anywhere. I was wondering when the companies will be manufacturing this stuff again, because i cannot find it online, i cannot find it in stores. If any of your other callers could comment about that, where do i find lysol disinfectant spray and lysol sanitizing wipes . It always seems like when you watch a congressional hearing they have an ample supply. Host have you had other supply chain issues during the last couple of months . Have you had any Food Supply Chain issues or anything else . Caller paper towels. We were wellstocked with paper towels and tissue paper. That is just out of habit. We have run out of lysol disinfectant spray and we cannot find any of the wipes either. I know the ingredients come from china to make these products. Are we back trading with china to get the ingredients for those products . I cannot find it does disinfect my home. Host isaac in michigan. This is joe out of colorado. Good morning. Caller good morning. Ive a couple of questions for leaders. I am a Business Owner and Property Owner and we are the only people in the past history that have any say so. I have questions for our leaders, why we have strayed from our virus doctors and biologists with the virus that came out of the lab. We did not create this, it did not come from the burbs, this is straight from a lab. Host why you believe that . You think it came out of an american lab. Caller it came out of a lab in china. Do believet why this was human made and why would they want to get it out . We need to publicize that our leaders are responsible for this, and we publicize this further. People thatea visited china visited my hospital. My message to my leaders as they are more concerned about themselves than they are the children. I think the people should fire them all. I do not think leaders can handle a pandemic. Beijing and hong kong are not sick. Message we the people these individuals made a sick. They should not have their jobs. Host back to oklahoma. This is tom. Good morning. Good morning. That was me and got cut off. Finish your comment. I was saying i do not understand why we are allowing this to happen. I do not understand why we are not to clara this president reckless and competent and removing him from office before he kills more people. Trying to kill and having big rallies were trying to have big rallies, not too successful. There are all kinds of witnesses to his crimes. Are not understand why we not dragging people into port and dragging him out of the white house and locking him up. Host got your point. Gave you two chances. Patrice is next in hillside, new jersey. Caller i agree with the previous caller time. Thank you for taking my call. I have an issue with people saying the masks are political. Can we stop making everything . Olitical and stop saying that these are peoples lives. 120,000 people have died. It is not political. It is just being responsible. For trump to even take people saying it is to make me look bad, he is the most narcissistic president. I know you have to have some kind of ego to think you can run the free world, but he has taken it to the extreme. Everything is personal for him. It is about him. He only wants to win reelection so he cannot be indicted after he leaves office. It is clear he does not care about the American People, he does not care about our health, he does not care about our finances, he does not care about where we will live, he does not care about whether we sign childcare, he just wants everything open, and he is the reason why we are so behind and everyone else is so advanced. South korea is in their second coronavirus wave and we are not even out of the first because he does not want to face the music and face the facts our supply chain is wrapped as far as medical supply. We rely on china. And he a big problem said that our trade bills are intact our trade deals are intact with china. It is not. That is why the previous caller cannot find lysol. I find lysol in shoprite. It might be five or six left. That is how it is. The stuff is not coming into the stores. Host patrice out of new jersey talking about supply chain issues, another topic that came up at yesterdays hearing. Doctor on the ppe supply chain and supply for frontline medical workers being asked about it by several members of the committee. [video clip] there was an absolute shortage of everything when this started. Everyone in the world was looking for the same supplies. We try to manage that from increasing supplies, and using the dpa multiple times. Investments toe approve production. We estimate the country in the fall, if there were a covid outbreak to this degree, we need n95s permillion month. We should have about 100 a million by that time. This was not about 180 million by that time. This was not available in march. Between march 1 and june 19, the government distributed or enable the commercial distribution of 160 million masks. 630 8 million surgical and procedural masks, 281 million gallons and over 16 billion pairs of gloves. This was an enormous effort. We need to be better prepared. This all needs to be on shore. We talk to governors in every state. Many of the states are also doing their own supplies for 60 to 90 days. I am confident from here on as we ramp domestic manufacturing that we will be in a much better position than we were three months ago. The assistant secretary of health and Human Services administration yesterday at the energy and Commerce Committee hearing. Taking your phone calls. About 10 more minutes in this segment before we turn to the medical side of coronavirus. We will be doing that with dr. Ira breite, one of the hosts of doctors radio on sirius xm to answer your questions about how far we have, and trying to understand this virus. This is wendy, out of michigan. Good morning. Caller good morning hi. I am calling because i was listening to the woman who called from florida and how she initially was saying she thinks donald trump is doing a wonderful job. Away thaty mind people are saying these kind of things. , i am aas noticing former advertising person and also a coach. He isn you not think doing the most to rend us job the most horrendous job as a leader in our country is beyond my comprehension. Peoples to me like these who are saying these things about joe biden not wearing about how he stays in his basement and cannot speak if he has a mask on and it makes him look weak, and then the next breath she is talking about how she wears gloves and a mask and protects herself and she is educated. It is almost like her unconscious brain has been repeat what donald trump or his bad actor subliminallye messaging to these people. 2015 a pattern of people repeating exactly what by the trump out campaign. I started noticing these patterns. The fake news is a perfect example of a trigger a trigger statement that automatically makes the brain unconsciously goat into some kind of conversation go into some kind of conversation they do not even know they are saying. Exemplifies the union gang, the black and what yang,e yin and blackandwhite, polar opposite way of looking at what is really happening in our country. Mescares the hell out of because this administration is not doing one thing to try to protect the citizens, the consumers on being fed these subliminal messages. You look on the tv and you see the ads on tv for his ads. He noticed there is a rainbow, little spray of rainbow coloring. In my opinion is there is subliminal messaging inside of that. Host that is wendy in michigan. This is mike in new england, connecticut. Caller good morning. I would like to respond to your previous caller that mentioned for country made up of 50 sovereign states. What he forgot to mention is we are the United States of america , and he also mentioned conflicting information that has been put out on different sides. This president has been the chiefcting information in since the very beginning when he claimed this was nothing more than the flu and it would go away. More than divide the country on this issue than anyone else. Thank you for letting me call. Host five minutes left in the segment. Via social media, this is jesse from facebook, saying the response has been better than expected and the president us hope. He is an incredible leader, very encouraging and productive. This is from sarah. Trump said it was a hoax and he ignored dying americans. Then he was ineffectual. This from susan. For better or worse, people take their lead from the president. He does not listen to his Health Experts and provides a terrible example to the public. Susan in westchester, new york. Westchester, new york, home of the 16th district of new york. That was one of the focuses yesterday of the new york primary. That is the home district of congressman ellie angle, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs committee. In a tough primary election, this is the fox news story, saying the longtime congressman who was first elected in 1988 and rose to become one of the most powerful democrats in the house was substantially trailing a medical principal and yesterday a middle School Principal and yesterdays primary, which could mark the second upset of a veteran years,sman in two referring to alexandria ocasiocortez defeat of joe crowley. Fox news thing the district too early to call. As of 1 00 this morning, bowman was 61 had 61 of the counted votes and engel was in second with 36 . New york counties do not release any mail ballots yet. Counties have until july 1 to start releasing the results of the ballots. Ls fate in the house waiting to be seen. Catherines next out of michigan. Caller good morning. This virus came upon the world very fast. They thought it was like another virus we had, but as we know now, it is not. They still do not know everything about it. Doingk the president is what he should be doing. Had dr. Fauci and this other , every day he reported to us. Now that the economy is opening need to do not think we have this every day. There is nothing new they can tell us. I watch the panel yesterday. There is nothing new. The administration has done all. Hey can for us this thing with him not wearing a mask, if he chooses not to wear a mask, that is his choice. We all have choices. This lady that was on from michigan, from bloomfield hills, she was a real nut. That is all i want to say. Host before you go, when you say theres nothing new they can tell us, are you saying medically there is nothing new. Caller nothing new has come out. No news no information, information they can tell us. When there is new information, they will tell us. Host stick around for the next segment because we will focus on that in our next segment. Before we leave this one, chuck from el paso, texas. Thanks for waiting. Caller how are you doing this morning . Host im doing all right. Caller i need to shut off my tv. Trump says that he wants to slow down on the testing of the virus. If you want to slow it down, how come we dont start with the white house . , andaxes are paying for it if we do it this way we want have to pay taxes on it, if he starts paying for it, or maybe the Republican Party starts paying for it. Cspanime i look in on or other tv news networks, i find out that hes having his rallies where you have people Walking Around with the mask on and it the American Flag. When kevin gotow down on his knee kevin capper nick got down on his knee. Who aree people, wearing these masks with the American Flag on the front, what they are doing is putting their saliva on the American Flag. In other words, they are spitting on it. Why are they doing that if they are such patriots . Chuck, in el paso, texas. Up next we talked about the latest development in the coronavirus pandemic with dr. Ira bright of new york university, and we have a vote on Police Reform with Tom Mcclintock of california. We will be right back. Sunday night on q and day, the university of california professor offer a vaccine nation, on lessons that the polio vaccine can teach us about a covid19 vaccine. We will face distribution problems, we will face problems of equity, even if we have enough vaccine for everyone, there will be those who have the privilege to say that im not comfortable getting it until 5 Million People have been vaccinated. And there will those who say i have to get a vaccine because i have to go to work and i have to make sure that im safe and can provide for my family. I guarantee that we will see problems of equity. This is one thing im concerned about. Watch sunday night at 8 00 eastern on cspans q a. Washington journal continues. Host welcome back to our program, dr. Ira breite is a host of aat nyu and a Radio Program that has been helping people understand the coronavirus. You are on this program back in late march that she were on this program back in late march. How far have we come in understanding this disease since then, whats the biggest breakthrough . Guest we have come to understand a lot more than we did before. I think one of the most important things is that there has not been a break for a breakthrough. Has not been a half ah with a magic care. But we learned a lot more about managing the disease, if you have it, we have ways to help you get through it and understanding the processes of this disease, whats happening there. Are having some success at medication. Have good medicine but s. S not carols cure all we are cutting the number of hospitalizations, but not actually decreasing death rates. There are successes but not at the same level. Bettero we have a understanding of why some people get the disease and are fine, and others who get it end up dying . Guest we do not. We are epidemiological he coming epidemiologically coming to conclusions, people who are heavier, older, with underlying heart disease, high blood pressure, kidney disease, those people are more likely to have severe symptoms. We do not know, specifically, why. We can suppose. Things like being older. But we dont really know. And we also dont know why, and i referred to this as the russian roulette aspect. Most people who are younger do fine. Then, i sawd somebody with a stroke, things like that when i was involved in a hospital. With covid and we dont know why. Its one of those areas we are researching. Joining. Ira breite is us. Taking your questions. Our phone lines are split up regionally in this segment. If youre in the eastern or central time zones 202 7488000. If you are in the mountain on North Pacific time zones. Zones 202 7488001 and using that medical professional line at 202 7488002. You can go ahead and start calling in. As folks are calling in, dr. Breite how has treatment evolved . Whats working the best . Guest there are few things to say about that. Weve gotten better at several things. Youhe outpatient level, if are somebody who has coronavirus like symptoms, weve gotten better at triaging who need to go to the hospital and who does not need to go to the hospital. Telemedicine, the ability to see people in their homes has allowed people to get a sense of the physician as who is doing well and who isnt. That helps Hospital Capacity stay lower to some extent. Thats one big change. Are in terms of understanding the disease. Last, wee spoke thought of coronavirus as primarily a respiratory disease, you have pneumonia, problems breathing, being on a ventilator. We understand now for a Certain Group of people its also a vascular disease. People get blood clots. What ends up killing a lot of people may not be so much pneumonia in the sense of having something in your lungs so much as it is having blood clots in your lungs so you cannot oxygenate correctly. That, getting people in the hospital anticoagulation so they dont get clots has been helpful. In terms of medicaid in terms of medications, there are some things we know, hydroxychloroquine which was touted as being potentially helpful, as studies are done, it appears that is not helpful in people who are actually sick with the disease, and two, there does not seem to be any prevention. One of the goals was to look to see if you gave healthcare workers hydroxychloroquine would stop them from getting the disease. It does not appear to do that. That was a big negative finding, but important, because there was a lot of emphasis on this particular drug. There are two drugs that do seem to have a good effect on people with this disease. , andirst is remdesivir antiviral drug originally developed for ebola. It does not work well for ebola but does work well for this. It does not stop people from dying, does cut the number of hospital days among the more seriously ill. And as we can see with whats going on with texas and florida, Hospital Capacity, the ability to take care of people with the disease, when they get sick is a vitally important part of the process. Awaying we can do to chop the number of hospital beds being used is important. The other thing that came out and the research has finally been published. There was a press release two days ago where they came out with the study, but it was called a prepublication review, not officially reviewed by other physicians yet. They just put out the data. Dexamethasone is a commonly used steroid. You may have used it at some point in your life. It appears that dexamethasone in two groups of patients, those who are very sick and on ventilators, and those sick enough to be in the hospital on ofgen, do better in terms mortality rates. Marginally, but better, than those not getting the medication. For those working in the hospital that do not require oxygen, there was not much benefit, there was no benefit of the drug. Its really best in those who are already pretty sick. From notot help you getting sick in the first place. Thats a big deal. It cuts death in the intensive care unit from 30 to 22 . Still high, but better. Host on infection rates versus hospitalization rates versus death rates, where you think we should be looking to get the best sense of where we are in the United States and getting a handle on this . You cannot see this on your screen but we will show viewers, on the left from the New York Times we have a scary chart about new coronavirus cases in the United States and thats on its way up. And this chart from the Washington Post has new deaths in the United States by day. That chart is heading downward. Guest this is an important issue which has been getting a lot of play because i think the and i think how to interpret the data is tricky. But lets look at what we can think of, when we think about statistics for the coronavirus, lets think about the things we can look at. The first thing is the rate of infection. As an example, in march and early april we did not have enough tests. So i would see people who i would swear up and down on a stack of bibles had coronavirus but there was no way for me to know for sure. They were not very sick and getting better. And now theres widespread testing, i can literally pick up an app on my phone, go to the nyu system and order a covid test. Its actually put cool. We are finding a lot more cases and people who would not have been tested for. Thats good. It gives us an idea about where the diseases, who is getting it, if the only thing noah will allow us to track and trace the disease. Because you have to wallow it. Thing thate only will allow us to track and trace the disease. Because you have to wallow it follow it. It does not enter the second questions, hospitalization. There are a limited number of hospital brett hospital beds in any particular area. And theres a limited number of people who are qualified to take care of people in those hospital beds. When i was in new york, i became covid army. S literally recruited. Even though i am an outpatient physician and have not taken care of hospitalized patients for many years, because of the surge of patients, they needed me and others like me to come to the hospital to take care of people. Its been a while. Regular that, but hospitals became intensive care unit doctors, everyone had to step up a level. We have a lot of capacity in new york, some places dont. You have to think about hospitalization rates. But those lag behind regular infection rates. If you see a ton of young people with covid, because of the way covid works, its a weird disease. Flulike, yucky, you might lose your sense of smell. But we also have the tape the day 10 event, you go from being flu like nothing able to breathe and to not being able to breathe. And that weirdness, that second bump, means hospital rates might not creep up until well after you see lots and lots of younger people with the disease. This is what you are seeing now in florida, texas, places where they were saying its just the kids getting it. But we interact with other generations. Just because im a middleaged person does not mean i dont see twentysomethings constantly in my daily life and that i dont see older people in my daily life. Really lags in this disease. We get people, we put them on ventilators, on ventilators they can stay alive for a while even if there is nothing that we can do for them. It can take several weeks to pass away. , not as a using death final marker for how bad this was, but as a marker for making policy, the cat is out of the bag. What we are seeing now is a lot more testing, more positives, like we would expect. We are seeing people who have the disease, most do fine. Thats true. If enough people are getting the disease, if all of a sudden 20 of the population gets the disease, like new york, even a small percentage of that people can totally overwhelm the health care system. People can die. You run out of doctors and nurses and other Health Care Workers who start getting sick. And its a bad situation. Im hoping thats whats not happening in the south, but i am worried. Is ourr. Ira breite guest, and associate clinical professor at nyu and the host of doctors radio, taking your calls and questions this morning about covid19 and the coronavirus pandemic. , in arnold,ls, sue maryland, good morning. Caller thank you. My question relates to taking temperatures. We use the thermometer as a screening method when we go to work. Im wondering what the relationship of spiking a fever and shedding virus is . Am i contagious the day before, or the day after i spiked a fever . Guest thats a great question. That we are having trouble tracking. We have difficulty with presymptomatic cases, those who are shedding the virus and will get sick but have not done so asymptomaticas people, the 22yearold Walking Around not feeling anything. , because it isps true that people when they are coughing are shedding virus the most, particularly the call that happens. Leadingtemperature is a indicator. Is it perfect . No. One of the problems, and this is is thathe issues because theres no its not and you can take a test have it in five minutes. You have to use what you have available. Temperature is imperfect, but is reasonable in the sense that you could have a low temperature and be full of disease. But the truth is that most people temperature are sick and those without are not mostly. Its an easy screening tool and so its a reasonable thing to do, given that its one of the Better Things we have. But you are correct, its not perfect and there are people who have it and dont have it and you will miss both ways. Host with the understanding that you are based in new york, we have a questionnaire from twitter. Can americans pay for their own quick selftest . Are Companies Making them . Guest we are not quite there yet. This has become an issue it is an issue. In germany for instance, i have a friend whos a physician there , they have the equivalent of the german fda approved saliva, so you can swap the inside of your cheek. We dont have that Technology Available here yet. I think its important as we go forward with this to try to use the best available technologies. And as you have mentioned, Antibody Testing has become an interesting and hot issue. There are people who have talked test, thenot the nose pcr test which tests for the active virus, but the antivirus the Antibody Test which is a blood test, which says that if you have had it you will not give it to anybody and its fine. That might be true, theres a decent chance that it is true, but we dont know that yet. Sayi think its hubris to that just because you have an Antibody Test and should be ok you therefore will be ok. I think those tests, we have to take it at the moment with a grain of salt but its important to use them, because the research will suss out how good they predict immunity to the disease. But at the moment you cannot use them we are really stuck with pcr tests for the majority of us in this country as the most to say i have covid now. Host dean is next, from florida. Caller good morning. Thank you dr. Breite for all you are doing. I did not have much of a question, other than we should andbe washing our hands Wearing Masks whenever possible. I dont think it needs to be worn in the openair when theres no one around. But i wanted to say that the people who try to blame the president for this virus and everything in general, i believe are delusional. The president has been tested and people around him are being tested, hes taking vitamins and they have given him a clean bill of health. And i believe the hypocrisy of the press, obama, the left, and everybody trying to blame everything on him and also republicans is really twofaced. We need to be united. We need to help each other. And people need to realize what they are doing. Host we have your point. Dena started talking about masks, what is your recommendation on mask usage . Guest i like and support the use of masks. And i dont understand why you would not want to wear a mask. Shown tolly have been prevent droplet transmission of the disease, thats a nice way of saying if you cough and you have a piece of cloth in front of your face, less gunk goes into the air. This disease travels on droplets. Is it perfect . No. Are we perfect as people in terms of how we use them . O but as a general rule, masks are good. , buty not protect you certainly if you are carrying this it will protect the person next to you, even if that person is 22 years old and healthy, that person might go home and see their elderly grandmother later. This is not a rugged individual type of thing. This is really being good for communities and society. Appropriate, if we are going to be within six feet of each other and we are going to have open restaurants, reasonably crowded stores, mask uses going to be essential. Having said that, you do not need a mask if you are in the woods hiking and theres no one around. The six foot rule is not perfect, someone is going to call and said i saw a study with 22 feet of spread. For the most part, six feet is good. If you are in a relatively empty area and you pull your mask down, thats fine. ,ven as i went to the office there are blocks where there are no people and i would put my mask on. But when i saw someone from a distance i would put my mask on and they would do the same thing. If it was below their nose they would pull it up. These are the common courtesies that we, as citizens of this country, this is the type of stuff we should be doing for each other. Its a good thing to do. Understand nott wearing a mask today. It makes no sense to me given that its one of the real things that will allow us to not close down the economy. Host in san pedro, california, this is robert. Caller good morning everyone, hi dr. Ira, i was talking about 3. 50st of the mask at hired aand he has company that has never made a covid mask until he hired them and i think that was a disservice to the country because we need jobs here in america. Im wondering if gavin newsom might sleep upside down in a coffin. Point,e have your robert. On mask availability and where we are on that, and ppe in general . Think one of the problems we had in the beginning , and i will say that i am just a doctor, im not a logistics person, but i have come to appreciate logistics people, there was not enough ppe for people in hospitals. One of the reasons we stopped doing elective surgeries in new york is because we needed the ppe for the folks taking care of Covid Patients. It is important to have enough ppe. I cannot open a webpage without seeing an ad for several attractive masks that you can purchase and use. It is certainly easier for me in normalce to purchase masks which is what we use here for a regular office visits. N95 masks has been easier. It is getting better, fortunately we have a smart bunch of folks who run business in this country and the mask business is booming. That will correct itself. I think its important, particularly if there are shortages and theres a need, that this is the type of thing where there is a role for governmental push. Because masks really mean keeping economy open. Message from deb in columbia, missouri, asking if you can address the difficulties in knowing how many days an a symptom addict carrier can spread the virus and if a person asybe a symptom attic person can spread the virus and if a person can contract it more than once. Guest this is one of the more variable things. If you get the virus you might andsick four days later, you might get worse, its a simple continue them. But this virus is all over the place in terms of how sick people get, and its hard to find normal. From a practical point of view, it is summer and this is a significant issue, a lot of people want to visit their older parents, they want their children or grandchildren to come up and visit them. And if you are coming from a higher incident area, florida, going back to new york, there is , does theion sevenyearold have the disease and will they bring it and potentially infect grandma . For which there is no good answer except potentially isolating yourself for extended period of time. And even then, if you are on the plane that has been hard. This is where masks come into play. What i have been telling people for this type of thing, how to know the early infection things, if you are planning on travel, and visiting relatives, really try to mostly isolate yourself as much as possible for at least a week before. Dont go out to restaurants, even if there outside, where a ask when possible wear mask when possible, when you are flying wear a mask. And for the first few days, try to keep six feet away from the person you are visiting. I you can get a test, encourage that. If you can get to a place and get a test with a nasal swab a day or two later, i am encouraging that, but im not 100 sure it is necessary. Mark or no way of saying the guy next to you is not carrying it or is carrying it, and thats particularly scary. Coming up on 8 30 on the east coast, talking with ira breite for the next half hour or so as we talk about where we are when it comes to covid19 and the coronavirus pandemic. Mike has been waiting, in missouri. Caller good morning. Sorry about. , and your city going through what it went through. My wife and i are entertainers, we were in the middle of this when it hit. Our last gig was st. Patricks day in cape girardeau. We were among the masses and we we were among the masses, we were 59. We came home and locked , and we were fine for about 12 days, then my wife. Ent down no lung stuff, she just all of a sudden had a super fever, but she never went over 100 and one 101 and she had that for five days and it went away. We started a countdown, and other than feeling off i was in the other problem is that she has bad allergies and i have breathing issues. But its a neurological thing that happened, i looked it up and i cant remember what they called it, i was sitting there, in the chair, i dont know if youve ever been to the chiropractor and was galvanized and they put those pads on you that send electric shocks through you. Guest i do know that treatment. The chairsat there in and was watching my leg muscles, it was like it was its own thing. Host you think you both had it . Caller at the time the tests werent available readily around here. She ended up developing a cough for about six weeks. We took ran twice, she had antibiotics. The neurological thing, and before i get off the phone, you guys are the boss, tell your producers, i would have been a civics teacher if i had listened to you guys in high school. Host thank you for the call, what sort of entertainer . Musician . Caller we do a lot of things, but we are musicians. Im ezra and dill, we do educations on farms, renaissance festivals, we just have a good time. I make people laugh area laugh. Host thank you for the call, i hope you are both well. Dr. Breite . On those symptoms and that story . Guest its a typical story for covid. This is something that we saw appear when covid was bad. People who live together, family units tend to get it as a family unit. This is where you could see the variability in the disease. I had situations where one spouse was incredibly sick. Wife. R to mikes life and sometimes the symptoms would linger. But the other spouse wasnt. Now that the Antibody Tests are available, people want to know what happened so they are getting tested, and everybody in the household is positive. Its rare for me to see a situation where the wife has it and the husband doesnt. Its not unheard of, but its almost unheard of. It really does pass through. We talk to people about what happened in most people with the disease are fine, maybe they lost a sense of smell for a day , its not just about individual sickness, its about the fact that its so infectious it blows through a place and overwhelms the health care system, and does not allow for anything else to happen. Thats really where it gets dangerous. Attacks from virginia, are there studies done for indicators of herd immunity . Will we know when less people are sick . Or are people trying to find indicators and point to the prevalence of herd immunity in a location . Guest this is one of the scarier things out there. Generally, herd immunity is the lots of people have antibodies and its harder to pass from one person to another because its caught by a person whos already had it. You need 60 of the population to be immune. Thats why we have to vaccinate so many people. Even in new york city, even in the bronx, the hardest hit borough in new york city, 30 of people had. Had it. , in terms a disaster of hospitals, utilization, people sick, ive never seen anything like this in my life. And even among later, its almost like you forget. Part of your brain says i cannot remember how bad this was, you dont want to believe you are in the middle of it. From a herd immunity point of that for the country to do it would be awful. I cannot imagine subjecting ourselves to that to try to achieve herd immunity on so many different levels. The second thing, and this is the scary part, i will use measles as an example. If you had the vaccine for is prettyhat immunity lifelong. Most people cant get it again. In covid we dont know if thats true. We assume its true for a while, but the body doesnt always remember well that it is immune. The antibodies fade. Covid is one of those diseases that people can get again. Its only six months old, we dont know whats good happen with it. But it would be bad, that would mean there would never be herd immunity because people would be losing immunity and subject to getting the disease again. Occurmmunity will only when theres a decent vaccine and if we lose the antibodies that vaccine will have to be given on a regular basis. Host can you talk about convalescent plasma . Guest convalescent plasma is one of the oldest things in medicine. Its the idea that lets say you had a disease, chickenpox or hepatitis b, you have the antibodies,you have takeplasma, if you were to blood and spin it down, and that yellow stuff on the top was just liquidd, if you get the protein and stuff added to their, there will be antibodies to whatever you had. And theght in Covid Research is interesting but theres not enough of it out there just yet. I have a feeling we will have more after this run of disease in the southwest. What we are hoping is that the antibodies in the person who had intof you inject those someone who has the disease currently, will help them fight off the disease. Its been shown to work and other viral diseases and it is simple to do, all you need is someone elses live. There are many people willing to donate their blood and its a hopeful area of research. Having said that its a hundredyearold technology. Colleen, in pennsylvania, thank you for waiting. Caller hello, thank you dr. Breite. I live in belle vernon, pennsylvania. Lately, andshopping you probably dont know about all of the laws, but i have noticed a lot of people are not Wearing Masks when i go into the store. As far as i know, the people at , i desks are Wearing Masks think they are even free just freight is afraid to say to people that are not wearing them parents died from this disease. Indaughter had a new baby march my husband and i, we dont because weo hold him are scared to death because nobody knows what the disease scary andts really its a shame the president makes and that its not cool to wear a mask. I called my ppo and i cannot get a test done unless i have an emergency to go to a doctor there is no testing place around where i live. Speak tocannot anybodys individual Insurance Companies for obvious reasons. Covid,r of exposure to or potential exposure to covid is a legitimate reason to do a reasons, whyious would you not want to do a test in that situation. We have certainly, in our tests, ordered a lot of because people are worried they have been exposed and they are potentially traveling. It is a perfectly good medical reason to do things. Its the type of thing that i would suggest speaking to your physician, but most of the folks that i know, my colleagues, we are really quick on saying yes to a covid test. Even now in new york because we did take all of those extra steps in the beginning. We took the social distancing seriously. We have mask laws, and most people are great, most people want to wear a mask and help people. But in the same way that we have traffic laws because sometimes you dont want to necessarily follow the rules and its good to have a push, i think mask laws are a similar thing, encouraging people to do what they know is right. About 15 minutes left with dr. Ira bright. The host of serious xms doctors radio. You can find him easily enough. A question from twitter, asking why we are not being told that vitamin d from the sun fights viruses, saying masks keep the sun off of our faces. Guest im sorry i just got an amber alert in new york state. D does not actually, to my knowledge, have anything to covid or other viruses, necessarily. There is some evidence that uv kills ultraviolet light viruses. And certainly evidence that it kills coronavirus. Untold nothing vitamin d itself would be anything that i above normalnd vitamin d being low and its a good idea for your bone health, but not for this. Host to diane, out of kansas. Caller i have two questions, if the good doctor could explain how significant the strains of covid19 are, for example, i heard that when this first hit the United States we had one strain on the east coast coming from europe and another strain on the west coast coming from china. That theently heard most prevalent strain right now is 10 times as infectious as the original strain was, id like to get an understanding of that. Is mored question personal. , hewn physician had covid has recovered and is back to work. I had an appointment with him that was canceled before he got sick and was rescheduled after he came back. And i spent a lot of time talking to them, ive known him for many years. He recommended that i should probably take an aspirin a couple of times a week. I dont have any digestive said it is important that your blood is a little thinner, because this could have significant issues if you are in the hospital. I would like you to comment on that. That let me comment on first and then spike proteins and stuff that even if you were a physician you would not hear much of until recently. As you were talking about earlier, covid, coronavirus, is a disease not only of the lungs, but all blood clots. One of the things that seems to kill a lot of people is the fact that people are getting blood it does not seem to happen at the same level at outpatient levels. The recommendation to take an aspirin, which has blood thinning properties, to prevent ape to prevent complication of covid, its a reasonable thought, but the evidence we currently have would speak to not doing it, because as you have pointed out, aspirin can have complications in terms of stomach ulcers and whatever else. At the moment im not recommending that. The current recommendation is that even if you have covid, you do not have blood thinners unless you are hospitalized. If you are hospitalized it is standard to put people on blood thinners. In terms of the strain itself, viruses mutate, and they mutate constantly. Its not xmen level, where there totally different, but their genetic codes change. One of the ways that scientist can track where viruses are from is by saying these people had this type of mutation and can track it back to this place. And one of the things that has become apparent is that the that was on the west coast of this country was that the , which basically came through new york and italy is another strain. Questions as to whether the ability of this second covid and the way it works is that there is a and it has the cell something called a spike protein which jams itself into that protein. Better spike is somehow on the second virus, the east coast virus, than the west coast virus, theres a lot of Research Going into that. It may or may not we are really not sure. We dont have any evidence to this point, thats is having this virus is any worse than disease once you do have it. They both stink in the same way, but there is a question as to whether its more infectious. Host one of those early east coast hotspots was in westchester county, and this is judy, from white plains. Ask, are more to young people contracting covid . Host right now . Or more people more young people getting it . Caller more young people contracting covid . Guest its an excellent question, i think the answer is yes based on the data we are seeing out of florida and california. Fore are potential reasons that, not the least of which, and i say this as the father of a 23 and 20yearold, young usple do stuff that those of of a certain age are perfectly happy to live without. They are more likely to end up in groups or be together, it is what it is. And i do think that young people tend to spread it and get less sick. The fact that they get less sick , this has been seen in diseases like ebola. Ebola stops partially because it is so darn deadly, once people is like oh, ite is there and it really does stop the spread. It can spread quickly amongst young people who are really not particularly symptomatic without them knowing about it and start poking into younger peoples interactions with older people. As we open up the economy that occurs more. Question. Cky as the economy opens up, what do you tell your 20yearold and 23yearold . What rules do you have . Guest more than their mother does, i think thats one of the issues. Its really one of those things to lay downhard what you want people to do. What i truly try to emphasize, as much as possible is if you are going to have a good time, try to stay somewhat away from people, dont go to closed spaces. Andink the biggest issue, im not disclaiming younger people, but in general, having gone out to dinner for the first time in a very long time this friday, because you could eat alcohol andhat other things make people less likely to follow the rules. Is to notal thing lose too much control in terms of stuff they are doing to themselves, because that makes you do dumb things. Host out of boynton beach, florida, thank you for waiting period caller waiting period waiting. Doctors il of the have seen say hydroxychloroquine has worked but it has to be given early, prehospital, in the first five days. I could go on and on about how these doctors who give it prehospital in the first five days and claim they have almost 100 recovery rate. It was something in st. Louis in the last couple of days from a doctor at a nursing home who had 60 patients, everyone had a 100 recovery. And as soon as they see the symptoms, before the test is back, a 100 recovery. On hydroxychloroquine, again. Guest a disease that has a high curate, if you give someone a pill cure rate, if you give someone a pill and it does naturally get better and most people, you can go a look, its hydroxychloroquine, it could also be either in the air. Theres been a decent amount of largescale research at this point that hydroxychloroquine has not been shown to be effective. Not as a preventative drug, not in less illnt drug people with covid, its not a treatment for those who are seriously ill with covid. The fact that some of my speaksues stand on this more to them than it does to hydroxychloroquine. Argue that itto was not worth investigating, but its been investigated, it doesnt work. Its over. I will leave it at that. Host a couple more colleagues callers with dr. Breite. Mark, in omaha, good morning. Let me hit that button. Caller thank you for your information dr. , thank you for having me on. I thought i heard that young people its not determined that they for sure spread the disease, but i thought they had spreads were very young kids dont spread it and i wanted to know the doctors opinion, whats the death rate for young people to feel secure that school should be opened, whats the impact of young people having it where you would feel comfortable opening schools . And i did want to talk about new york, the senior spread was so talk to there, did you dr. Quan to Governor Cuomo that his policies were wrong to and hetients back eventually lifted that policy . Because hes wiggling all over the place and blaming it on trump but doesnt the local government has something to do with that, along with the ppe, he should be providing the ppe. It seems like a lot of doctors in new york are trying to blame trump for everything. I would like your input, did you speak up to cuomo . Host i got your questions. Guest there were plenty of ways plenty of blame to go around in the beginning of this, and we should go forward rather than relitigate the past. In terms of schools. Children do that really well with the disease. There is a very small percentage of children who have this very odd organ inflammation disease which does fortunately appear to respond to steroids. Thats a good thing. School, fromids in a kids point of view, they will be fine. Is whater problem happens when your kid comes home from school and you live with kidsother, the grandmother is there. When you have that situation, what do you do . What everybody misses about the disease, but its been pointed out well with the nursing homes, is that one person comes in contact with another person and it is that contact that leads to a problem. So unless you are putting kids in boarding school and not have them come into contact with adults at all and keep them in isolation, it doesnt work. Kids come home, they see their parents and grandparents. Thats why school is an issue. Lets not forget that teachers are not when he five years old, and are not all 25 years old. There are many that are older and youre subjecting them to a class full of kids i could give them covid. Hawaii,st call from allen, good morning. Caller im so happy you got me, good morning doctor. I will have to listen more often, here in hawaii, there is going to be a potential change in the way they allow people to come in. Right now its a strict quarantine. They are about to model after alaska, where they are going to ask for a 72 hour previous pcr test to let people in. And with the false negatives, i the range i think the ranges between 25 to 30 false negative, thats not great. Some are advocating for two tests, some between two and six days apart. I was curious as to if you could comment on that, thats coming up in the state of hawaii in the next few days and the governor will likely announce it before the weekend. Host thank you for the call. Guest its a really interesting thing. Hawaii, as alan pointed out, has a very strict quarantine. The place where somebody posted a picture of themselves on the beach three days after werelanded and they arrested. The government of hawaii is not taking it. So the question is, is doing testing on people beforehand and allowing them to immediately enjoy the activities from the state, is that a reasonable response . Some things are political questions. You have to decide what percentage is correct. I will say that if the general rate of disease, and the rate that people are coming from are lower, that form of testing, even though its imperfect, is probably good enough to control the spread, as long as the government is also doing strict contact tracing, so the people who are tourists accident like come in with the disease, those around them are isolated in the areas are closed down temporarily, giving time to recover. , a clinicala breite associate professor at nyu. The host of doctors radio, we always appreciate your time. We can check in with you again down the road. Tick around, more to come host well be joined by congressman mcclintock a member of the house Judiciary Committee to discuss the Police Reform vote in the house and other top policy issues. And later delegate Eleanor Holmes norton to discuss that upcoming vote on d. C. Statehood. First yesterday on Washington Post event norme National Security advisor john bolton explained why he didnt testify against the president during the impeachment proceedings but rather wrote a book. If the goal was not just getting a vote that impeached trump in the hoist but actually removing him from office, they did it just about 180 degrees the wrong way. And i saw that and thought that jumping off the cliff with them was not only a mistake, but that whatever else i had to say would have gotten lost in the shuffle of their mistakes. And i think thats to be regretted, but this happened the democratic strategy was devised by them and implemented by them before they talked to anybody else as far as i know. Your decision changed history and i hear your political argument there, your legal argument, your historical argument. At the same time did you ever grapple with both a moral and personal obligation as a citizen to speak up . I grappled with it extensively and asked myself what my duty as a citizen was and what would be effective. Ronald reagan used to say when i served at the Justice Department in the Reagan Administration used to tell ed meese sometime, im not jumping off the cliff with all flags flying. And i thought what the advocates of impeachment were doing here was pretty much exactly that. I think they were virtue signaling. And i think that they made a strategic mistake for the country. Their argument was that trump will be forever impeached and that will be a constraint on his behavior. That is exactly the opposite of what happened. He was not just impeached, he was acquitted. So their actions did not form a deterrent against future similar conduct by trump, they enabled it. And i thought that was a mistake and i thought in any event the time really to discuss these kinds of things couldnt be better than in the middle of a president ial campaign and with the impeachment effort doomed to failure, in my view, and i believe as it turned out correctly, i thought the responsible thing to do is make sure that these facts in the book were put on the Public Record for people to consider. People will read the book. They may vote for donald trump anyway, thats their decision. My hope is at least they know hat they are voting for. Washington journal continues. Host California Republican Tom Mcclintock joins us, a mefment house Judiciary Committee, thats the committee that marked up the house Police Reform bill that will be on the floor this week. Congressman mcclintok, during the markup of that bill you acknowledge that there are some provisions of that bill you do support, but you ended up voting against sending that bill to the house floor. Why . Guest because of the provisions in it that basically federalize all local Police Departments. My views on this were shaped years ago when i worked for the legendary chief of the Los Angeles Police department, ed davis, and the period he was chief while crime was widened nationally by 50 , he drove it down in los angeles. Did he so by following the principles of sir robert peel, considered the father of modern policing, that the principle is that policing is very much a community activity. In fact, he said that the public are the police. The police are the public. The only difference is that the police are members of the public who are paid fulltime to attend to the enforcement of the law. This is quintessentially a local question that the democrats seek to federalize. Thats the part i oppose. But there are provisions in the bill that are legitimate functions of the federal government to protect the Constitutional Rights and Civil Liberties of the people. And that includes things like abolishing qualified immunity which is a was by the warren report that protects Public Officials from liability when they deny citizens their Constitutional Rights. That should never have creeped canon, cial cannon it needs to be removed by statute. The most terrifying power that we give the federal government or any government is the ability to crash into someones home. That is protected. The only time they are permitted to do that is with a judicially issued warrant. When they are using that authority its absolutely imperative for their safety as well as the safety of citizens to announce that authority before they cross someones threshold. I dont know about you but somebody an armed intruder shows up in my house, theres going to be a gunfight. If they have a Legal Authority to do that, they need to announce that in advance. Those are two areas where i think we would find i certainly agree with the democrats. Host one place that you have also agreed with democrats joined in legislation is in the stop militarizing Law Enforcement act . What is that . Guest five years ago i cosponsored the legislation put forward by hank johnson that simply restricted the transfer of military hardware to local Police Departments. Again, getting back to peels principle. The police are not a paramilitary institution. They are simply an extension of the public of the military weapons that are not available to the general public should not be transferred to Police Departments from the battlefield, basically. Another area i worked on for many years is to assure that the records of Police Officers are made public. The Police Officers are discharging a public responsibility. They are using powers loaned to them by the public. How they use those powers i think needs to be in the open. That provisions also in the bill. When we talk about peoples Constitutional Rights, the federal government has a clear responsibility to protect those rights. But it is completely incompetent to try to make decisions for every Police Department in the country. And thats where the democrats cross a very bright line. Host you seem to indicate there is room for compromise here. How does that happen . Mitch mcconnell has said the democratic bill is not going anywhere in the senate. Senate democrats expect to block an effort to begin debate on senator tim scotts, the republican bill in the senate. So what happens here . Guest well, that all depends upon whether both sides are serious about reform. If they are, then each side will bill. En to a compromise if either side is not willing to do that, then they are not serious. Host congressman Tom Mcclintock, republican of california, Judiciary Committee member us. Will be with us for the next 20, 25 minutes or so. If you want to join the conversation this morning, you can do so phone lines as usual. Democrats, 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001. Independents, 2027488002. Congressman as folks are calling in wanted to get your thoughts on President Trumps action yesterday i guess it was monday. We talked a lot about it yesterday on the program. To pause Legal Immigration channels into this country, including the h1b visa program through at least the end of the year. Guest immigration is an important contributor to our economy. Particularly in periods of low unemployment. When we have high unemployment, when americans are out of work, it doesnt make a lot of sense to me. We have gone from the lowest unemployment rates recorded in 50 years to among the highest unemployment rates ever recorded. Because of the government overreaction to the covid virus. That is i think that the president is correct at the moment in restricting those until we get unemployment back down. When unemployment gets back down to the levels it was, then i think that reopening the nation for legal foreign immigration is certainly warranted. Host what mark would you set for reopening the country to Legal Immigration . Guest i think we need to get back to the levels that we were enjoying at the beginning of the year before we took a wrecking ball to the economy. Host let you chat with a few callers. Jerry, hundred huntington beach, california. Democrat. Good morning. Ller well, your record over the years, you have just been a somebody that stalls the party line every chance you get. These things you said you are going to support. The overwhelm way you support it because you know as well as everybody else knows as soon as it gets to the senate its dead. You can vote and pat yourself on the back how great and still doesnt go anywhere. I cant help but remembering some of the things you have done over the years. Just an example, years ago, caller called in a riveting caller called about trade policy. And your response to her was, oh, im not going to go back to smoothawley. These are the things that you just hold the party line. You always have. Host got your point. Give the congressman a chance to respond. Guest i think if you check the record youll find that i have one the more independent voting records among republicans. I believe in free trade. I believe that every society that has practiced free trade has seen their economy prosper and bloom. And every nation that has practiced protectionism has seen their economy wither and contract. Nowhere was that more evident than the smoothawley act which turned to the section of 1929 into the depression of the 1930s. Thats an area where i disagree with the Trump Administration. By the way, with respect to Police Reform, 13 years ago when i was in the state senate back in 2007 i partnered with democrats to forward an open records act for police misconduct. Host from your home state of california, we spent a lot of time this morning talking about coronavirus and the response to coronavirus. How do you think the governor has done out there in california . Do you think that more federal dollars are needed for the response . Do you think there will be a second stimulus for americans when it comes to coronavirus . Guest its an interesting article in the editorial actually in the wall street journal yesterday citing the report that compared the each states that kept their economies open with the 42 states that closed them. Californias restrictions were among the most draconian and severe in the country. Hat they found is that the states that had kept their economies open, not only saw a fraction of an economic damage that was incurred by states like california, but also the fatality rates from covid are 75 less per capita in those states. Thats pretty dramatic evidence of a complete failure of policies in states like california. That decimated their economies. And at the same time showed themselves entirely ineffective at slowing the spread of the disease. I know we have seen that in california. Host what about this idea of a second stimulus and more federal spending . T i am very concerned the first bill that we passed i supported because the core of it was to assure liquidity to Small Businesses and Large Businesses that were facing a crisis because of government actions in response to the infection. But i warned at the time this was no substitute for reopening the economy immediate. The problem comes down to this, the government cannot finance the economy for any appreciable length of time because the it is the economy rather that finances the government. You shut down the economy, the revenues to the government collapse. Every trillion dollars that we spend at the federal level we dont have any of that now. We have to borrow all of it. Comes out of the same capital pool that would earwise be available to finance consumer purchases, as well as business restoration. And it has to be paid back with interest in the future. Every trillion dollars we borrow the 000 that is added to credit card bill of every family in america on average. Thats 8,000 of those families will have to repay to their future taxes. Im very skeptical that further socalled stimulus spending is going to do anything other than rob future Economic Growth of our economy. And remember, government cannot put a single dollar into the economy that it is not first taken out of the economy. So the record of stimulus spending has been abysmal every time we attempted. Host bedford, texas. Tonys a republican. Good. Caller good morning. Thanks a lot. Like being here. Really wish i could see cspan in hd. Thats another story. I was wondering if you thought that the president was a conservative republican and why . Because i think all the issues are kind of linked together. Guest i think up until the covid crisis he had done an extraordinary job reviving the american economy. We were enjoying record Economic Growth. Lowest unemployment rates recorded in 50 years. Lowest unemployment rates for minority groups ever recorded. He did that through a combination of two policies. The biggest regulatory rollback in the history of the country, far greater than anything Ronald Reagan achieved. One of the largest tax cuts in the history of the country. That created an economic expansion of the likes of which we have not seen within our lifetimes. So i think those policies were absolutely sound. My objection is basically putting Anthony Fauci in charge of our national economy. Thats been a complete disaster. Host what would you have done differently . Guest i would have kept the economy opened. I would have followed the example of the eight states that did keep their economies open. And again the blame is not just with the administration. They issued advisories. But the blame actually rests with the governors that imposed these restrictions. The eight states that kept their economies opened, which seen a fraction of economic damage, and actually have vastly lower fatality rates, those states that blocked down. That was the biggest mistake. I think the its important to remember that the constitution itself is not suspendable by any individual even in a crisis. And that was the other mistake that i think was made and did significant damage to our Civil Liberties as americans and the relationship between government and the people. Host columbus, georgia, bert, republican. Go ahead. Caller yes. Hello representative mcclintock. Guest im sorry . Caller you ever get called john wayne because of your name . Movie he made, mcclintock . Guest that is an old one which unfortunately i remember when it came out. Caller id like to ask you a question. I had a at t robocall the other day. The guy was from india and i told him i said, at t robocall . And the guy was from india, and i asked him, i said, now, youre trying to tell me that at ts a good company, but i want to tell you this, that at t is taking American People, training people from india to take their jobs, americans jobs. Then the people from india are getting paid less money when they are trained for their job. What do you think about that . He said thats not very good. My question is this, does these jobs that these visas, do they help the economy or the corporations or do they help who do they help . Guest very good question. Ultimately im afraid who they hurt are those unemployed americans competing for the same job. Thats why im saying when we are running high unemployment bringing in legal immigrants to work doesnt make a lot of sense. It does make a great deal of sense when the unemployment rates are very low and the jobs need to be filled. But in both cases i want to emphasize the word legal. IlLegal Immigration undermines the whole process of Legal Immigration and makes our country possible in the first place. Host green belt, maryland. Bill, independent. Good morning. Caller good morning. Whose opinion and what case did the court took up qualified immunity . Guest forget the name of the case. It was in 1967. Basically what they this stems from the kkk act of 1871. This was a reconstruction act werethe southern officials denying blacks their Constitutional Rights now guaranteed in the constitution. The kkk act allowed them to build a federal fort to sue for damages because of the depravation of those rights. Now that law remained in place and intact essentially from 1871 to 1967. In 1967. The Earl Warren Court said, well, wait a second. As long as they are acting in good faith, whatever that is, then they shouldnt be libel. Then they later case in 1982 i believe further broadened that exclusion to basically say, you know, you can do anything you want as long as theres not a case with virtually identical circumstances that says you cant. The court i would emphasize is from 1871 to 1967 we did just fine without qualified immunity. That should not only apply to Police Officers. It would have to apply to all Public Officials. The victims of lowest learners should be able to go in the federal court to sue lois lerner for her misusing her powers to deprive people of their Constitutional Rights under the First Amendment. For example. Thats an issue that i think is absolutely essential for preservation of our constitutional liberties. Host less than 10 minutes left with congressman Tom Mcclintock. Republican of california. Member of the house Judiciary Committee. Did want to ask you, congressman, about that hearing set today before the Judiciary Committee. The title of the hearing, political interference and threats to prosecutorial independence. Well be airing it live here on cspan when it happens. The testimony that came out yesterday, the written testimony by former prosecutor aaron za ynn i ask, the former are zalensky. Read you what he wrote. Hes expected to say today, what i heard repeatedly was roger stone was being treated differently from any other defendant because of his relationship to the president. I was told that the acting u. S. Attorney for the District Of Columbia, timothy shea, was receiving heavy pressure from the highest levels of the department of justice it cut stone a break and that the u. S. Attorney sentencing instructions to us were based on political considerations. I was also told that the acting u. S. Attorney was giving stone such unmolest dentedly favorable treatment because he was afraid of the president. Your reaction . Guest well, as i understand it zelinsky does not quote any sources. We are left to rely on him. Thats his version of events. The legal scholars that have looked at his conduct and those around him in that case have said that the excesses of the rosecutors was egregious and unwarranted. That the sentencing that was being recommended for stone was vastly greater than comparable cases. That feeds into the whole question of the politicization of the justice and intelligence agencies during the obama administration. This was the genesis of the entire russian collusion hoax which obstructed the administration and convulsed our politics for the last two or three years now have become increasingly clear that the b. I. And justice officials knew the dossier was false from the time they got it but they used it anyway for other purposes. This administration is looking back on those things. I know the investigation is now well under way. I think well see a full accounting. What you are seeing are the democrats is an attempt to suppress that full accounting and getting all those issues out into the public. And to hold officials accountable where they have abused powers that they have been loaned by the American People. Host that hearing set to begin in about 2 1 2 hours. You can watch it on cspan. The house Judiciary Committee hearing also airing at noon eastern on cspan. Org. You can listen to it on the free cspan radio app. Sonias been waiting in daytona beach, florida. A democrat. Good morning. Caller yes, good morning. I would like to remind your guest that the first message that trump gave to the American People was that this was a war against an invisible enemy. It seems that dauch is teaching us how to fight that war without the couch dr. Fauchy is teaching us how to fight that war without the proper weapons being developed yet. And that was by testing, isolation, and tracking. Something that we as the United States that are not united anymore but are separated into each state are trying to fight this war separately as states. That was your president that called it a war against an invisible enemy. Id also like to find out from your guest what he thinks about the way that new yorks treated the virus and how far their numbers went down . And what eight states is he particularly calling on to say that they kept the economy opened and that it worked . Host well take your questions. Few questions there. Guest first let me refer to the editorial yesterday in the wall street journal that cites the study, i have read that study as well. It is very compelling. The states that stayed open not only sustained a fraction of the economic damage, but the states like new york did close, their fatality rate is some 75 less in those states that shut down. There have been a number of analyses of the infection rates between those jurisdictions that destroyed their economies and those that kept them open. And they find very little statistical difference between the two of them. With respect to new york, if you recall, the administration there infected ny patched Covid Patients in the nursing home. There is a highly vulnerable population. And the death rates went off the charts. It was interesting that just a few weeks ago Governor Cuomo admitted that some 80 of the hospitalizations for code of in for covid19 in new york were people already sheltering at home or nursing hometowns, 84 , which is a stung admission of the ineffectiveness of trying to quarantine an entire population. Quarantine in the past is a legitimate police power of a government. It is an individual who has contracted an Infectious Disease and ordered them to stay home while they have that disease to protect the General Community from spread. What is being imposed now across this country and in other countries around the world that is something very, very different. This is quarantine of an entirely healthy mop pew lation population on the pretext they might contract a contagious disease. That is government power without limit and it makes a mockery of our First Amendment rights. To assemble. Practice religion freely, and fifth amendment rights not to be defied of our liberty without due process of law. Quarantine in the past has always been subject to due process. If you are personally subject to a guarantee order, you have the ability to go to court and ask them to vacate that order and show cause. Thats not the case in the mass quarantines that have been ordered in this situation. From everything i have read, the effect on containing the virus has been minimal, if anything. The impact on the economy has been absolutely devastating. And by the way, one other thing we have not taken i asked fauchy about it. I fauci about this. Have you taken into account the related death that will be set in motion by these policies . His answer was no, they havent. Now we have information from the wellness kept 75,000 deaths, thats their term for suesides and drug and alcohol abuse deaths. We have seen a drat matic dramatic reduction in cancer screenings that will play out into untold cancer deaths that were set in motion by these lockdowns. I dont think it was thought through very carefully at all. I am very critical of those politicians responsible for opposing it. Host happy to point that caller to that lead editorial you were talking about from the wall street journal. News from the nonlockdown states is the headline. June 23 edition if she wants to look at it. She asked about the states that were cited. The new analysis from the sentinal of kansas nonprofit compares the 42 sits that shut down most of their economies with the eight states that did notcht latter Group Includes mostly rural states with some small metropolitan areas. North, suth dak dak iowa, arkansas, ok ork, and utah. More there in that editorial. If the caller wants to find it. Steven our last caller out of west springfield, massachusetts, a republican, good morning. Caller good morning, gentlemen. First of all i would love to say that i wish my president would have a trump rally in the state of california and i would just like to know what is who do you feel is the possibility of that happening . Guest im not in touch with the campaign. He has been out in california a number times. And has drawn huge crowds. I was with him in bakersfield a w months ago when he flew in on an announcement. And on one days notice you had standing room only in a huge aircraft hangar. There is still a strong conservative presence in california. It might be muted at the moment. And certainly is in the minority in my state. But i think that as they are watching events unfold, we are seeing a movement back in favor of the republicans. Just looking at the Congressional Elections as they are unfolding looks like well pick up a number of seats that we lost two years ago. Host congressman, last 30 seconds, well talk next to a delegate Eleanor Holmes norton of the District Of Columbia about her d. C. Statehood bill. Do you support statehood for d. C. . If so why or why not . Guest i dont. And u see the disorder complete collapse of the municipal governments responsibility to protect citizens, i think its all the more reason why Federal District of columbia should stay a Federal District. However i could make common cause is, like any other territory, they should not be subject to federal income taxation. 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Org and on the free cspan radio app. The president set to hold a press conference in the bilateral meeting with the polish president today. Thats set to happen at 3 30 p. M. We are going to be airing that on cspan3. Just a few of the happenings today from the capitol hill to the white house. You can watch it all with us on the cspan networks. We are talking about d. C. Statehood asking for you to call in. Your thoughts on having the District Of Columbia eventually become the 51st state in this country. Heres the headline from v. O. X. About the bill. That has been offered by delegate Eleanor Holmes norton of d. C. Expected to get a vote on the house floor this week. D. C. Closer to becoming a state now than it has ever been. If the house of representatives passes a bill granting statehood to the District Of Columbia, that vote expected on june 26, it will be the first time in the nations history that either house of Congress Approved legislation granting full statehood and congressional representation to d. C. s more than 700,000 residents. For at least the next several months the bill is highly unlikely, they write, to travel far beyond the house. There is little chance the Republicancontrolled Senate will agree to give two senators to an overwhelmingly democratic city. And even if the bill somehow mansion to pass the senate, President Trump said has said the republicans would be, quote, very, very stupid to allow d. C. Statehood. Hes all but certain to veto that bill. Statehood for the District Of Columbia whose residents pay federal taxes but have no vote in congress is arguably closer than its ever been. President trump trailing democratic president ial nominee joe biden by more than eight points in recent polling. Now indicate democrats have a chance to regain the senate. That could mean that an eventually vote happening perhaps under a Joe Biden Administration and perhaps with democrats controlling both chambers. That would all depend on the november 3 elections. We are asking you this morning to call in. Let us know your thoughts on d. C. Becoming a state. And that process. For more about that process well be joined on the phone now by delegate Eleanor Holmes norton. Congresswoman, good morning to you. Explain what it means for the residents of the district that this vote is happening this week and how that admission process would work under the bill that you have crafted. Guest well, it means a great deal to the country as well as to the District Of Columbia. More to us because the residents of the Nations Capital pay the highest taxes per capita of any residents. Thats one figure i ask everyone to remember. The highest federal taxes per capita have no senators, have only me in the house. I vote on some amendments on the floor but on final passage of bills, even bills that affect the District Of Columbia, i do not have the vote. Its been that way for 219 years. We have more than enough votes, indeed we have more than enough call sponsors to pass the bill on friday. This coming friday, the 26th. Which will therefore be a historic day because it will be 219 years thatin e district has been in exist existence that the precedents have had either house to vote to give them the same rights as other residents. I heard in your introduction something that i think i need to clarify. You talked about the president saying over his dead body or words to that effect. And that the close host the v. O. X. Article, the president saying that republicans would be very stupid to allow d. C. Statehood. Guest exactly. And you perhaps said that the Senate Majority leader does not support statehood. Let me indicate what the polls are showing. The polls are showing that democrats have an excellent chance of taking the majority in he senate and the poll numbers for this president are so low that hes even having hes even going to states and risking the pandemic on his supporters. Just to get out there. It is true that this will have a way to go. Every bill has a way to go. In fact, the senate now is only judges only affirming. So there is a whole lot of stuff to be done. But this is a huge forward movement. When you get this kind of vote in the house and remember those senators will see these representatives voting, in such large numbers for this bill. When you get this kind of big push in the house, you are more than halfway there. Host question, why statehood at this point . Why not an intermediary step for its full representation, full voting representation for you on the floor . In the past there was an effort to try to craft a deal with republicans to give you that full voting representation. I remember being paired with what was going to be an eventually house seat for the state of utah after reapportionment. Why not go back to that process and try to make a deal with republicans . Guest go back is the operative word. That was a shows you how things can change. Thats why things change for statehood. Utah was devastated when it believed it should have gotten an extra house vote. It paired with the District Of Columbia and in fact, we were successful in the house and the senate in getting at least a house vote several years ago. We got that bill through and the only reason we dont have at least full Voting Rights in the house of representatives now is that republicans attached a rider or an amendment to that bill that would have essentially elimb named all of the gun safety laws in the District Of Columbia eliminated all of the gun safety laws in the District Of Columbia. You see what an uphill climb it has always been even for a house vote. We decided to go for the whole enchilada. If its going to be an upward climb, let it be an upward climb for fully equality for people who paid full income taxes. Host congresswoman, appreciate your time this morning. Out of the busy week. Did want to ask you about some of the reaction from your republican colleagues. We just talked about congress mam Tom Mcclintock about whether he would support d. C. Statehood. He said no. Republican congressman congressman massey of republican taking the time to tweet about your bill yesterday. This is what he said. Ill be voting no on the farcical d. C. Statehood bill. Its unconstitutional, he said. The constitutional proscribes a federal city. And the 23rd amendment gives d. C. Three president ial electors. Statehood for d. C. Requires a constitutional amendment not a simple bill. Guest thats not true. The district clause in the thatitution makes it clear the congress has full control over the District Of Columbia. And it does not that does not nothing in the constitution makes it any different for the district than any other jurisdiction. And that, of course, requirement is for a majority vote in the house. The constitution does not say that the Nations Capital shall never become a state. Host what about the federal buildings here in d. C. . The white house and the capitol building. The National Mall as well. What happens to those locations under your admission bill . Guest its important to note when we are talking about statehood we are talking about he 66 square miles of hometown washington. The federal enclave that most people call the capital or the capital when they come to visit the Nations Capital, will interestingly be called the capital. That will remain under the jurisdiction of the federal government. We want jurisdiction only over hometown washington the way the states had jurisdictions over their states. Host congressman, before you go i did want to ask you about statues here in d. C. Youre out with an upcoming new piece of legislation about removing specific statues here in the district. Can you talk about which ones and why . Guest well, we would like by legislation to do what the people are apparently trying to do in a virtual revolutionary act. That is to take down the statues of confederate soldiers and confederate generals who betrayed their country. That says a lot about washington, d. C. You can did anything you wanted to do here. So some of these, because it was controlled by the federal government, even hometown washington, sole some of these statues are on d. C. Land, some are on federal land. If they are on federal land, i have introduced bills, im introducing bills that would take down those statues so that the people dont have to do it themselves. If you were watching tv they have been doing it night after night. The pike statue, which was perhaps the most notorious as far as we were concerned about pike betrayed his own soldiers. They themselves tried to get rid of him. Prominently displayed here in the District Of Columbia and the people were able to bring down the albert pike statue. They have not been able to take down all of the statues. I think it is up to the congress of the United States to do that job. Host what is the emancipation statue in lincoln park . Why would you want that taken down . Guest the emancipation statue depicts a slave kneeling at the foot of abraham lincoln. It is just the kind of depiction segregation to the and the denial of fully equality ourthe africanamericans in country. I dont want these statues, even the most notorious of them, simply taken down. I want them put in a museum and i want that statue put in a museum. We need to learn from our history. The way to learn from our history is not to destroy it. Put it where people can see it and learn what it stood for and how far we have come. Host congresswoman Eleanor Holmes norton, delegate for the District Of Columbia. Do appreciate your time this morning. Well talk to you down the road. Taking your phone calls now with about 10 minutes or so left in our program today. Getting your thoughts on d. C. Becoming the 51st state. Is that something that you would support . Phone lines, 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001. Independents, 2027488002. Start here in the District Of Columbia. This is samantha, a republican, good morning. Caller yes. I am in favor of d. C. Becoming a state. It does not make sense that those of us who live here are bankrolling these places like kentucky and mississippi and all of these other entities. Lso ms. Nortons understanding of the emancipation statue does not give it credit. Evidently she does not give rise to the fact that people of color paid and had that statue designed. Frederick douglass delegated it. In representing the District Of Columbia to allow anybody to decide they dont like the way 150 years oks over later is a disservice to the lineage of the people who were here and were freed. They dont even know the name of the young person who was supposedly on his knees. Was the last person who was liberated where they were going and grabbing people and bringing them back into slavery. Does she really understand . Because if people know it nationally and people who have studied, who are real historians, she would be about preserving that entity that is a part of the history not only of d. C. But the history of this country. Host thats samantha in washington, d. C. That statue in the capitol hill neighborhood of washington, d. C. As the fox 5 local news story on it about Eleanor Holmes nortons bill notes, paid for by former slaves, placed in the park in 1876. Tracy, windsorville, maryland. Youre next. Your thoughts on statehood for your neighbors next door. Caller i have relatives that live in d. C. And i just think its just common sense that its really unfair for them to pay taxes and not have representation. I think its just a commonsense issue and not about a Political Party issue. I mean i get why some Political Parties would not be in favor of it. But section off the federalowned buildings and make that the city so that the president has his own city. And let the precedents have representation. Their license plates are going to say, taxation without representation, which is just to me antiamerican. Host nick, connecticut, independent. Your thoughts on d. C. Statehood . Caller i dont support statehood for d. C. Personally. I think that if it was to become a state it should just be folded back into maryland. Into back into the property that was originally kept from when they decided to make the Federal District. That way the people there can you can add a Congressional District to maryland and they can get their representation and i feel like thats probably the best option. Host that vote on d. C. Statehood will take place on friday. Thats the schedule according to the majority leader, steny hoyer. The house in at 9 00 a. M. On friday morning. Also well be in at 9 00 a. M. Eastern tomorrow as well. A couple tweets and comments via social media about d. C. Statehood. This is marie saying that House Democrats are trying to make the District Of Columbia another democrat state. That would mean another democrat mayor. As well as all we know how disastrous that would be is what marie writes. Jody saying, make d. C. A statement divide california into three states. California southern. Northern california. And that would add eight new senators and represent one state whose citizens have been underrepresented and one state ho has never had state rights. This saying the proposed bill to make d. C. The 351st state is nothing more than political posturing. Knowing it has zero chance to pass a rightwing controlled senate. This effort should be deferred until 2021 instead so that it could pass unanimously. Matthew john is next out of west palm beach, florida. Good morning. Caller good morning. How are you, sir . Host doing well. What do you think about d. C. Statehood . We only have about five minutes or so left. Caller very quickly. It just looks like another sneaky trick by the democrats to make something into the way they want it because its a completely Democratic State almost. They just want the two houses in the senate. If it was a republican held, mostly republicans in d. C. , they wouldnt even talk about this. Its just ridiculous they use every kind of sneaky trick they can or anything they can to try and sway the election. For example, when they had the protestors, now theres nothing wrong with peaceful protesting, right . But they had thousands and thousands of people protesting without masks. They never said a thing. Trump has a couple rallies where people dont wear a mask and all of a sudden its crazy. Its just completely ridiculous how the fake news and democrats are trying to use any kind of sneaky trick in order to win. Joip host john in florida. Speak norpe and House Democrats set to hold a News Conference to unveil their Patient Protection and Affordable Care enhancement act. That coming up at 10 00 a. M. Here on cspan. We are expecting the speaker at that podium you just saw. Can you listen to it on the free cspan radio app and airing it on cspan. Org as well. Matthews, thanks for waiting in connecticut. Your thoughts . Caller thank you for taking my call. I want to quickly say i do support statehood for d. C. The residents of d. C. Just like the residents of all other states they pay federal taxes. They do everything that a resident of every other state does. They deserve representation. I just personally feel even though im a democrat, even if d. C. Was majority republican, i would support statehood for d. C. Because i believe in and i support democracy. And people, residents of a state, deserve to be represented in both of our houses. Also feel that it had become a political issue because if something dk does become a state they will gain two senators and they will gain some representation in the house and that would probably tilt towards democrats. I think its just a political power move that d. C. Has not yet become a state. Thank you. Host frank is in new york. Independent, good morning. Caller hello. I think making d. C. A state, its a matter of making a bad situation worse. We already have a problem with wyoming having two senators for a half Million People. New york, two senators for 20 Million People. And id like to point out something, in the constitution it says the one unamendable thing is to change its equal suffrage in the senate. For the states. In other words, you cant that is considered an unamendable portion of the constitution. So that theres no going back. I dont think the situation is already bad that we are going to have to fix and making the senate some kind of house of lords or something. We should not be making what i consider a bad situation worse. Host thats frank in new york this morning. We mentioned that the majority leader in the house has this vote set for friday. Take you back to last year when steny higher threw his support behind moving the statehood proposal forward. This is his column in the Washington Post from may of last year. I was headed about d. C. Statehood. Now i believe its the only path forward. One of the paragraphs now that oped by the majority leader. Steny hoyer saying i had been hesitant in past years to call for statehood for the district because i believed that we could achieve Voting Rights for its residents without having to take the politically difficult steps statehood would enstale. Thats what i tried to do in 2010 by pursuing a deal on legislation proposed years earlier by congressman tom davis, republican of virginia at the time, to give house representation to the district and an additional house seat to the state of utah. Sadly that effort to achieve a compromise fell short. I now believe the only path to ensuring its representation is through statehood. Cheryl is in clinton, maryland. A democrat. Your thoughts on your neighbors next door . Caller yes. I am a native washingtonian. I now live in maryland and i definitely support statehood in washington, d. C. First of all we pay way more taxes than when i was in d. C. I paid over 1 hundred some more thandy since i was in maryland because i have to support and kentucky and alabama and all those racist states doing everything they can to hold my people back. I think its wrong. I think its unfit. And taxation without representation is the same. Taxation without representation is tyranny. Its a shame the way the District Of Columbia is being just raped of money to support these racist states. Host you said you used to live in d. C. , correct . Caller come to this travesty of people who are treason host you said you used to live in d. C. . Caller no. I am i moved out of d. C. I had no idea the amount of money i was saving when i moved to maryland based on the money host when did you leave something dk . Caller im supposed to bring four to seven they are 40 some years later still in charge of the money coming out of d. C. O support these racist places. They were so stupid and ignorant and stop bothering black people and everyone else to support themselves to having to rely on the District Of Columbia. Host all right. Got your point. Karen buchanan, looking at Eleanor Holmes nortons bill to make d. C. The 51st state she makes the clear distraction distinction between hometown and the federal enclave. The bill would still allow for those several buildings to not officially be part of a 51st state of d. C. Frankfort, kentucky, republican. You are next. Caller hello. Host go ahead. This bill that they are trying to pass, it is like they disregard the constitution and want to make up any new law they want to make up, and we are supposed to be based on the constitution. On the constitution said that that piece of land was designed for the federal. It was not supposed to be a state. They set it aside for what they intended it for. They want to change everything to suit them, but the constitution says that everyone is supposed to be fair and equal. You go and tear down my statue, then youve got to tear down everyones statue. You cannot just destroy my history and leave everybody elses untouched. Host on statehood, the license taxationd. C. Says without representation. Do you think that is fair. Vote forhen i went to trump, people threatened to kill me if i went in and voted for him. I lived in d. C. Five years. Host why did you leave . My family got sick in kentucky and i had to help my family. My brother, my cousin. My cousin died in january. Host my condolences. Joe, our last caller in washington journal. But we will be back tomorrow morning at 7 00 a. M. Eastern, 4 00 a. M. Pacific. We will take you to that News Conference featuring Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other house mccright set to arrive in just a few minutes. Be unveiling their new Patient Protection and Affordable Care enchancement act. Live coverage beginning now on cspan. [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2020] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] Speaker Pelosi good morning. Thank you all for being here. My apologies, it is like the middle of the day. There is so much that has been going on today already, but here we are to talk about something that is so important in the lives of the American People, their health. It is not only about their