Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 06122020 20240712 :

Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 06122020 20240712

Text us your thoughts at 2027488003. Wj. On cspan at cspan the discussion about confederate leaders, there was a recent poll on this topic. It asked what should be done with the statues of confederate leaders. Roughly 2 roughly one third of the voters in the poll expenses should be taken down. 44 said the statues should remain standing, down eight point since the survey was taken down two years ago after the riots in charlottesville, virginia. The poll was done with Morning Consult and politico. A history of some of those bases across the u. S. That have come into the conversation and its history such as for georgia. Ing located in it was established as a training down in world war i and was named after a confederate general who was present at the battle of antietam and gettysburg. Mr. Bragg, named after ragg. Established as an artillery Training Ground in world war i, named after a u. S. Army officer who served in the second aminal war and mexicanamerican war before becoming a Confederate Army general. Located indon, georgia as well, founded as a training site for world war i. Is named after john brown gordon, a confederate general who robert e. Lee called one of his most trusted generals, despite having no prior military training. There is more on the history of some of those bases if you look to the Montgomery Advertiser website. Renaming off their these bases or taking down of the statues, give us a call at 2027488000. If you oppose these efforts, 2027488001. The conversations, even extending to capitol hill. S White House correspondent joins us. Guest thank you. Host your thoughts on the nancy pelosi. Guest she is renewing the call on removing a number of the s in the that honor people who either fought for the confederacy or or otherwise confederacy. The the most notable name on the list of people actually honored in the capitol with a statue from the collection of statues where each state gets to send, would probably be jefferson confederateas the president during the war. Send thetate gets to statues. Speaker pelosi basically wants them to be removed by what is called the drink committee on the library, joint committee on the library. It wants to remove the statues anyway. What we have heard from thatlicans, at least, is that is Kevin Mccarthy and mitch mcconnell, i believe have said that do you need the states to make this decision. And they are welcome to send other statues. We have seen the statues in the collection change over the years, but Speaker Pelosi, i believe, would like to see them event is perhaps some of the Southern State legislatures will not be inclined to replace them. Host what would be the process . Guest the joint committee will need to figure out whether or going toare actually do much of anything. Now, this is separate from the other issue that congress is is adebating, which role for congress itself, the question of naming of military bases which you mention in the open. These are both issues that would require a president and the pentagon to consent to. But the manner of the the matter of the statute is interesting because congress itself could make the decision, that they have generally been ready deferential to the states. Host we saw the Senate Armed Services committee take up consideration on that front. Tell us what happened. Guest so the Armed Services committee met behind closed doors in its markup of the annual Defense Authorization this week. What we learned on wednesday was but an amendment had been offered by elizabeth warren, the democratic senator from massachusetts, who everyone knows very well after her president ial campaign. Senator warren offered an amendment that would basically give a threeyear timeline to the pentagon to remove the names of confederates from frankly everything, not just the military bases like fort hunt, fort bragg, fort benning and the like, but also places where there may be ships, there may be militaryn installations but may be named for confederate figures, basically all of that needs to go away. Want to basically have a Jefferson Davis highway running through a military base either. Put that into the Defense Authorization. That will be in the bill as it goes to the floor. Hofe, chairman of the Armed Services committee, said even though it was adopted not going vote, he is along with it. It will not take an affirmative senate. The because it is in the bill coming out in the committee, more than likely, if senators want to not make the military have to remove the names of confederate generals and the like, they will have to have a vote on the which floor to do that, is not necessarily a vote that a lot of senators want to take. Host for those items attached to the defense of the white house on that . Guest so, even before i knew that the amendment had been offered, i happened to be one of the rotating reporters in the White House Press briefing on wednesday afternoon. And the press secretary said the president would not sign any legislation, any legislation that changes the names of military bases that crikey on her confederate generals, arguing that it may have been the last place that people left the United States before going and dying in the war. General David Petraeus had an opinion piece a few days ago. Believeave spoken up, i robert gates is now speaking up, the former defense secretary. Is the white house argument that he will not sign anything even if it is in the Defense Authorization. So we are looking at the possibility, as farfetched as it may have been on wednesday morning, of a standoff that leads to a veto of the Defense Authorization which always includes a pay increase for a host always includes of provisions that the pentagon named over items that are for confederate figures. Host neil covers the white house and also congress, serving as the chief correspondent of the rollcall on those fronts, here to walk us through what is going on in the white house and congress on these issues. Thank you for joining us. You. thank host to your calls on the idea of taking down confederate statues or the renaming of bases. If you supported, 2027488000. 2027488001. It, bob in texas is a supporter of the effort. Thanks for waiting. Go ahead. Caller good morning. I just want to say that i definitely do support it. The question is why we have slaveowners and confederate traders that went to war against the United States in the civil war, because they wanted to be. Wners of slaves they were domestic terrorists at the time. Road in manye countries, they are removing these statues that remind them of horrible histories. That is why there are no statues in germany of ardell fidler of itll fidler, or statues that is why there are no statues itler in germany, or mussolini in italy. Host bob in texas, ok. To california, you oppose this effort. Go ahead. Caller president grant said, let us have peace. This war is long since over. These bases have traditions. Fort bragg means something to someone in the service. It has a tradition. A lot of these statues are in the wrong places, they should be put where they belong. They could go to spotsylvania or in gettysburg. They dont need to be in richmond. There are a lot of wonderful places these statues could be put where they would be in. Roper context just about everyone in the union army was a white supremacist. Are we going to start taking their names down . Leonard i dont know if it was in the civil war, but a lot of great union generals, they were all white supremacist. Are we going to start stripping those names next . Lincoln was accused of being a white supremacist. Even though he was far ahead of timeverage person at the on the subject of the rights of afroamericans to have the same rights as them in earning wages, bread iwith their just think, lets keep things in context. Lets have peace in this country. Host thanks, earl. We go to john in washington, d. C. , a supporter of these efforts. Caller good morning. I am the National Executive director of the United States adjustment and recovery act, in billbill a new proposed. What you are witnessing, the removal of a lot of the as well as atatues few other fixtures, such as andrew jackson. First to be the removed from the white house because that is a reminder of the native american holocaust as well as the black american slavery holocaust that was enforced in this country, as well as all of your confederate ,tatues that represent treason domestic tourism, murdering domestic terrorism, murdering, it. Ery, you name anyone still stuck in the 17th or 18th century is to have a reminder that the civil war is over. What the American Public is recognizing, the end of the civil war and the beginning of civil conversation. Host from robert in michigan, an opposer of these efforts. Good morning. Caller thank you for having me on. I would like to have one suggestion, before you cut somebody off, give him a little bit of a warning. [laughter] be a little bit more polite, maybe. I know you give somebody, what, a minute and a half or two minutes . About 60tried to get calls per show. Go ahead, please. Caller sure. My opinion any work of art shouldnt be destroyed. We are going down a slippery slope. What is next . We will start tearing down confederate churches and other things . If you look back 10 years before when this terrorist started, a lot of terrorists were in the middle east tearing down artwork. It is just wrong. We should have it on display. It is part of our history. As far as flying different flags, one flag could be blowing, like the black lives matter flag, yet the Confederate Flag cannot be flown . Coppe is just a piece of with colors on it. Host doesnt go beyond art and is it more than just pieces of art . Think of thebut artist and think of the person who put in a lot of blood, sweat and tears. I am an artist myself. It takes a lot of blood, sweat and tears to make, especially the statute made out of bronze and staff. These artists are rolling in their graves. Ainter how many i going to say that either. Host ok, thank you for calling. Brian in washington state, on our line, you support these efforts. Go ahead. Caller good morning, washington journal i am mystified by the previous caller. What the heck is a confederate church . Never heard the term before. In regards to the military bases, i have to say that the orange guy in the white house taking a stance that he wants to defend the confederate naming of statues and the admiration of the Confederate Flag, when he stated, on blasting john mccain that he prefers soldiers that dont get captured, there is no bigger, obvious example of a surrendered, captured soldier than the confederacy. Host to the renaming of basis, if it happens, what does that accomplish in your mind . Caller it shows respect for thate like general grant was very respectful to the losers of the confederate war when he made sure that lincoln and the union were respectful to the men that had to go back to their communities and live a respectful life after the loss of the revolutionary war. You have a public grant who said, hey, even against his ands choice to be mean very derogatory to the confederate soldiers and their leaders, grant said, no, we have got to treat them like americans. They are americans, our brothers and relatives. So there is respect. And then there is stupid. Host ok, that is brian in washington state. To the topic of renaming of generals, its for was one of the discussion points that Speaker Pelosi had in the press conference yesterday. [video clip] rep. Pelosi the American People know these names have to go. These names are White Supremacists that said terrible things about our country. This is 100 years after world war ii. Some of these names were given to these bases. You listen to who they are and what they said, and you have the president make a case as to why a base should be named for them. He seems to be the only person left who doesnt get it. Host if you want to see the full press conference, by the way, where she talks about not only taking down of some statues connected to the confederacy and the renaming of bases, go to our website, cspan. Org. Wendy in michigan, hi how are you doing . Caller . What is it with nancy pelosi . She is running our history. All of this will be removed. It is not right. We have no history issue let this go. We are going to have no history of generals, of all the stuff. It will be like it never existed. Host wouldnt they be mentioned in history books or museums or other avenues . Caller well, i never you all of these generals were White Supremacists or anything. When you them as a general. That they fought for their side. Just rip it want to out of history and forget like it never existed. You cant do that to your countrys history. Host that is wendy in michigan. Rose from connecticut, texting this morning saying, those statues and flats are offensive to most people of color. My suggestion would be to set up a museum and put them out of sight of the public. Bill from boston saying, the on army soft to preserve the union army was fighting against states who sought to preserve the system of slavery. Send them husseins statue still holds meaning. Lily in florida says, some of the people in congress and the white house love the confederacy and their statues. Why give praise to evil, the were passed. To text us, you can do so at so,7488003 and if you do please include your name, city and state. The Montgomery Advertiser highlights some of those bases. Po is namedl after a bishopk of the Episcopal Diocese of louisiana who became a confederate general. After colonelamed Edmund Rucker given the honorary title of general. It goes on to say that during the battle of nashville in 1864, he was wounded and captured. He was later the ku klux klan first grand wizard. Again, more of that available if you go to the Montgomery Advertiser to learn more about the base is named after confederacy generals. Is supportive of the efforts, hi. Caller we had this discussion before about the statues put up in the face of people that were suffering in those times and decided, it would be good to take down those studies. What about a place like vicksburg . The you know what is in the National Park in vicksburg . For those who dont, it is all Union Monuments and union dead. There is no confederate there. After the war, that is what the country did. They put those monuments in the south to let them know, hey, we countries. , not two so are we going to dig up those graves so we dont have to remember the civil war . That is all union. Host from san clemente, california, ron on our opals line. Caller thanks opposing line. Caller thanks. He created the trail of tears for the native americans. This is a slippery slope. You go with ford john brown instead of fort benning. It is crazy stuff. The bottom line is that obviously, things that are i mean, if you want to talk about offensive, lets go back to the greeks and the romans. They still have their statues up of various people that were enemies and friends through the years. That is history. So the bottom line of this story is if you really want to compromise, you have something lee in virginia usgr ant. How about fort benning in mseh sherman. Were one of those forts trying to relate our Major Military bases to the nation, relating to it. Host that was run in california. From texas, this is a leftist attack on society. That usa fought a civil war over slavery. Are we getting ready to fight a second civil war over the wealth of individuals versus government . William is next in pennsylvania, a supporter of these efforts. In november. Today, how are you doing sir . I am lovely. I dont know too much about history, i am only 33 years old. I just served 10 years in prison and my eyes are woke to the way the world is now. A lot of people say this is destroying history. What about the black mans history . Those who did not get their story told. And all these white people that keep putting monuments up that kept them held down . When is the world going to understand that you have to stop putting a oppression on the black man . Because, he made america great. Without helping u them pick all the cotton host but if you remove the statues, how will that be discussed, then if there are no reminders of the past . Caller if you talk to your kids, if you ask them, they dont even talk about slavery and no more. They are removing us from history already. It is our kids that are looking at this. Host ok. Lets go to james in greenwood, indiana on our ow of post. Caller it is a slippery slope, depending on which group you talk to. Right now we are going after confederate and slaveowners. The metoo may go after the womanizers permit the native americans have grievances. The mexicans in nested pelosis state california was stolen from mexico. There is no statute that is not offend somebody. Maybe we will take them all down. I guess the Washington Monument is in jeopardy, that is what i hear. It is a slippery slope. Host that was james in greenwood. He mentioned other statues being expanded into this recent call to be torn down. They are highlighted in the wall street journal this morning saying that was has gone iconography. Erate the Police Memorial statue was defaced with red paint in california. Officials foiled away a statue of a police commissioner. And a mural was painted over in boston. And a Christopher Columbus statue was found beheaded on wednesday. It has since been put in storage and the mayor, martin walsh, says the city will assess both the damage and the statu

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