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, most amazing event in the world. That is the ces held each january in las vegas. We will get to that in a moment. For some of the
Member Companies
. Everybody would expect to see at your local best buy. Startups as well. The you take policy positions . We have very strong and clear policy positions. We are very strong in certain areas. We stay out of other areas. What is one policy decision . We believe strongly in the concept that innovation is a good thing and we should foster innovation. It is something that is in our dna. We excel at it. We want to make sure that people can create something without having to get permission from government. We want to make sure that the
United States
is the leader in innovation. We try to push policies that favor innovations. What did you learn at ces this year . Wilbur ross was there with many other government officials. Said,ke for board and coming to this event gives me faith in the future of our country. Its the optimism that innovation produces. Its the sense that we can improve the human condition. We can live better. People can live safer, healthier, longer lives. They can get better education and communicate and have greater mobility. The production, clean water, things like that. The most fundamental problems are being resolved by innovation and technology. How many exhibitors . Over 4400 companies exhibiting. Almost 3 million square feet of exhibit space. Attendees . 170,000 people came from around the world. Over one third of them were from outside the
United States
. Joining us today is rebecca kern with bloomberg government. Shes the
Capitol Hill Technology
policy reporter. Banks for having me. Ces and saw the exposition floor and a lot of the policy sessions. I wanted to dig into the fastest areas of growth you are seeing at ces this days. Theres a lot of health and wearables. Where else are you seeing growth . Health is one of the biggest. An alternativeow to a lot of surgery and drugs and things like that. We are growing by leaps and bounds. The is so
Much Technology
can do. Mobility is very big. We see self driving cars and electric cars and hybrid cars. We also see different forms of mobility, including urban mobility involving things, helicopters. Theres all sorts of electric scooters and things like that that are getting people around. All forms of transportation. Yesterday, talking about transportation. You testified at the house energy and
Commerce Committee
about economist vehicles autonomous vehicles. Could you share some of the thoughts you shared about at the hearing yesterday and the biggest take away . Theres a tremendous opportunity we have in the history of mankind where we are losing one
Million People
per year through death and injury from car accident. Most of those accidents are human error. 94 is human error. If we can get rid of that, we will have we have all lost people. Its a tragedy that does not have to occur if we get it right. We will empower disabled people. There was a witness who was blind, representing blind people, in favor of this technology. Theres also older people as well. We are all aging. Getting someone back and forth with dr. Is a big deal. This a competitiveness battle going on. Major countries like china and others that are trying to lead on self driving cars. We have a lot of the technologies and silicon valley. There are so
Many Companies
out there who are part of this ecosystem. We have to get it right from a
Government Point
of view. Ces has become a car show. With most every major car company there. They are showing things. It is not a consumer show. Its a show where the entire ecosystem is there. They are doing deals. To succeed in any business, you have to do deals across the industry. Companies,p
Different Things
that consumers need. E have brand names
Consumers Want
to replicate their life at home. They want to put it in their car. Internet access, audio, video, jill locational devices. There is only
Different Things
you can do. Are we ready for
Driverless Cars
. Consumers are voting with their pocketbooks. They are spending a tremendous amount of money. Almost are cold cars sold now have features, all these things which may cars safer. Were starting to see a real dip downward despite the fact that we are driving more miles, the death rate is starting to go down. Sometimes, it is based on miles and speed limits and things like texting on driving. We are starting to see a great trend that im hopeful will continue. Where do you envision legislation happening in the space . The house is looking into some form of legislation. It has been tried before. What are some principles you would like to see . Legislation went through the house and
Nothing Happened
in the senate. They change their position for some reason. Its a challenge. It will affect auto parts replacement and tow truck drivers. All these legacy businesses and jobs are different. I dont think its our obligation as a country to make sure that lawyers have jobs. I dont think we should allow lawyers to control legislation. Everyone every new technology as an opportunity. We face that. ,e know that a lot of things status quo industries trying to protect themselves. With the
Motion Picture
industry, recording equipment, we see what they are doing with the internet. They are trying to impose liability on internet companies. Same thing with hotels. Theyre trying to shutdown airbnb. Between the
Movie Companies
and airbnb, they are trying to shut down a lot of new competition. Americans have the right to do that. What makes america greater is that our government doesnt listen to them. We favor innovation and progress. Thats who we are as a country. Not protecting the horse and buggy with companies in the industry that is out there. You have a tech liability field. It has been in place for over 20 years. We are now hearing conversations looking at trying to break that apart a little, amended in certain ways. Make a contingent on political speech neutrality. You are not allowed to have these protections and less you are ensuring speech online is neutral. That has no bipartisan support right now. Do you for see cracks happening in this congress . If i do my job right, they shouldnt. Senator josh hawley has a very promovie industry bias. Theres knows he could about that. He doesnt like the technology industry. Hes gunning for an award. Biden whoou have joe has said some of the same things. The
Motion Picture
industry is very strong, a powerful lobbying group. If it wasnt for section 230, the internet in a today would not exist. Theres a reason that we have five times the number of unicorns in the
United States
than europe despite the fact that we are culpable in size. We foster innovation. We said, this is a great technology. It sounds confusing. All it means is if you are an internet provider, you are not responsible for what individual consumers are posting on your website within certain exceptions. It is a
First Amendment
thing. That is something which has allowed us to grow. If this happens, if section 230 goes away, will google and twitter survive . Yes. Will a new started survive startup survive . Absolutely not. Theres a problem there. This is not about these great people saying, we are concerned about consumer things. Some senators are falling for this. It is a ruse. They are trying to say, this is something that is hurting americans. This is about the
First Amendment
and someones right to state their opponent online. We are dealing with the coronavirus thing in china. The
Chinese Government
shut down the internet and the doctor that warned about it. Now, we are dealing with a major health issue. They are shutting down the government. We are not china. We have a fundamental belief in the
First Amendment
. That is what is embedded in section 230. Whether that can survive
First Amendment
certainly, i do want to have to find out. We dont want to see
Congress Erode
section 230. It was
Just Announced
that britain is developing an office of internet regulation to be called off,. Is that a slippery slope . It is the name of the existing
British Telecom
office that is out there. They have been reasonable. Britain has been reasonable on a lot of these issues. We will see where they go. Their approach has been, we cant innovate so we will regulate. Theyve been unable to innovate. It has been one of the challenges they recognize. They are trying to change and somebody different ways. We will see what happens. I think that they pulled out of the eu because of the regulations they were imposing that britain didnt like. I would be surprised, given british sensibility, if that is the direction they are going in. I think the brits will be looking to innovate, free up some of the strictures they felt because of the eu. Im not losing sleep over that. Maybe i dont know enough. Speaking of europe, they passed the ub are, one of the largest privacy regulations in the world right now. We are looking at doing something similar in our congress. See are the prospects you for a settled privacy bill moving this year . What principles would you like to see if such a bill were to move . Its a great example of good intentions. The fact that it is across europe is a good thing. We copy of very similarly. It makes it better if there is a global sentiment. That allows anyone to start a business. What we are most concerned about that having 50 states with 50 different rules, ruining american business, granting money for their state. What makes america strong is the fact that on a national basis, we have a large innovation agree population. We create and we invent. When we construct that by having 50 different states with 50 different rules, thats a big problem. The number one thing is a national standard. Lets stop giving incentives for trial lawyers and attorney generals. We want to know whether something is legal or not and we will follow the rules. Especially if it can be done on a national basis. Lets not incentivize every lawyer to do it. The problem i have with lawyers, i am a recovering attorney, they have huge classes and they pay a lot of money. Anyone can get a law degree. Its not that bad. You have people with a license to sue. They use it. Theres only so much of a lawyer tax a competitive disadvantage is the number of lawyers we have. If we have an issue with another competitor, we should trade what they have with our lawyers. We have some new lawyers. We need to reduce our numbers. Its out of control of this. Lies, where do you want to see privacy moving . You would like to see one national standard. Youre in support of preemption. Heres the deal. We face competition now in three ways. Europe, theelves, europe approaches privacy everything. They have very little innovation. You have the right to be forgotten. You could do some really horrible things and to race your whole internet history. Thats what they do in europe. Thats the law. China goes the other way. There is no privacy. They know everything about you. Us and theptable to europeans to say that this is what a government does. To me, its an election of three bears. I would rather rest be right in the middle. All these new technologies require information and data. I was talking to the head of a
Major Medical
department. Im lucky if i can get 4000 data sets. The chinese have 400,000 and its no big deal. Privacy is great. Theres a tradeoff in privacy with whats reasonable. We value privacy in our room information. Not in every situation. If safety is involved come is health is involved, we give it up a little bit. We always will and we should. With competition and advancement, people prove that they are willing to give up their information for the greater good. It should be on a voluntary basis. The
Business Community
needs standards to follow. We will follow them. Dont kill all innovation in the name of protecting innovation. Has lost a loved one cancer and we can get yours, this is something we need to share information on. Hopefully people will do it voluntarily. Are we aware that we are sharing this information . Health care information is more sensitive versus commercial information. The reason that facebook and google are
Free Services
is because you are sharing information. You are getting ads that are suited to you. Some people dont like that. We are moving to a narrow where there are standards. They govern how these devices share information. No one is talking about that anymore. The industry has set up guidelines that they father. Follow. You can opt out. These are things which are common sense guidelines. Its just a matter of having voluntary guidelines. We cant afford to choke innovation. We cant afford it for our own health and safety. Do you think more people are comfortable giving their information to a private
Company Rather
than the government . We do give our private information in our tax filings. Im not going to say the government will ruin everything with information. I think if you trust the brand of the company, that will be the next competitive field, who is the name you can trust with privacy and your own information . Of a is a great
Example Company
that people trust with your information. Samsung is another great example. They have done a great job of keeping people keeping peoples information private. We have seen action in californias cc pa. Can you give us an impression . It went into effect didnt worry first. It is not enforceable until july 1. We saw a flurry of activity these companies have a lot of lawyers. It may affect funding or their ability to start a business. It was not a bad thing. It got me off of a few mailing lists. I dont think state should have their own laws on this. We need a national standard. It is chilling. If we have to follow 50 different states, that kills the startup community. The
Big Companies
can do with 50 states. Its more extensive for them. Its difficult. You have to to consumers in different states what are you you are doing. How can we get to a
National Standards
. Stc recently announced they mergers. T looking at what do you think of this retroactive look back of mergers . They have not indicated they will take action yet or not. Do you think this look back is warranted right now with the size of these
Large Companies
. . The the federal trade commission has a normative authority. We talked about competency policy. Acquisitionsk at going back several years, i find a troublesome. It was so long ago. Would be overwhelmed with millions and millions of documents. Maybe they will find something they think is industry interesting. Tearing apart a merger that occurred 10 years ago i dont how you would do that. I used to be an antitrust attorney. I think a company has a right to know what they are doing is legal or not. Those
Companies Made
acquisitions that followed the law. Ftc approved many of them. That scares me. Sometimes, government lawyers try to create new areas of law. If you are a business, you have a right to know what the law is when you do a business transaction. It should be clear. We have to challenge congress on this. What is the law and how can a business follow it . Dont create new theories because you dont like something that happened 10 years ago and theres a change in political it ministration. Lets deal with the future. If you have a new policy, make it perspective. To make it retroactive is not fair. Its not the american way. The white house chief
Technology Officer
also attended ces last year. Is it important that the white house have a cto . Absolutely. The first chief
Technology Officer
in the world was my best friend don upson, the secretary of virginia. He did something amazing. He made an effort to standardize the law of commercial business on the internet so business could occur. It was a bipartisan effort. It took over the world. Thats the standard today for the world. A chief
Technology Officer
and government has a clear job. He has continued the work of the
Obama Administration
in every major renovation area. Thats a lot of what has gone on with the company ministration involving technology. Path and heres the the policies to make it happen. There has not been this shift in change from one administration to the other with technology for the most part. Its really important that companies and businesses are looking forward. Technology is changing so rapidly. We know where we want to go. To serve oure want people so they are healthier and safer and better served. We also know that it makes sense to have someone with thats their job. He has done a fabulous job. His predecessors did a great job. Are we on the right path for 5g . Every 10 years, theres a new g. Faster, better, bigger wireless. If it was not for wireless, our economy would not be as healthy. We would not have the jobs we have. We are on the cusp of 5g. The technology is there. There are standards being worked out. There are all sorts of different ways of doing it. Its not like theres just one standard. Theres different sorts of spectrum that can be used. Our government has determined that one of the
Chinese Companies
is putting us at risk if we use the technology. I dont know. I trust the government there. We are in a bit of rip and replace. We are very focused on how we get to the broadband, to the rural communities. They are suffering without any g. Thats really important. It will get there. Its a question of when and how. Meetinges, i can veto of two of our cabinet secretaries and european ministers. Coming european and
Member Companies<\/a> . Everybody would expect to see at your local best buy. Startups as well. The you take policy positions . We have very strong and clear policy positions. We are very strong in certain areas. We stay out of other areas. What is one policy decision . We believe strongly in the concept that innovation is a good thing and we should foster innovation. It is something that is in our dna. We excel at it. We want to make sure that people can create something without having to get permission from government. We want to make sure that the
United States<\/a> is the leader in innovation. We try to push policies that favor innovations. What did you learn at ces this year . Wilbur ross was there with many other government officials. Said,ke for board and coming to this event gives me faith in the future of our country. Its the optimism that innovation produces. Its the sense that we can improve the human condition. We can live better. People can live safer, healthier, longer lives. They can get better education and communicate and have greater mobility. The production, clean water, things like that. The most fundamental problems are being resolved by innovation and technology. How many exhibitors . Over 4400 companies exhibiting. Almost 3 million square feet of exhibit space. Attendees . 170,000 people came from around the world. Over one third of them were from outside the
United States<\/a>. Joining us today is rebecca kern with bloomberg government. Shes the
Capitol Hill Technology<\/a> policy reporter. Banks for having me. Ces and saw the exposition floor and a lot of the policy sessions. I wanted to dig into the fastest areas of growth you are seeing at ces this days. Theres a lot of health and wearables. Where else are you seeing growth . Health is one of the biggest. An alternativeow to a lot of surgery and drugs and things like that. We are growing by leaps and bounds. The is so
Much Technology<\/a> can do. Mobility is very big. We see self driving cars and electric cars and hybrid cars. We also see different forms of mobility, including urban mobility involving things, helicopters. Theres all sorts of electric scooters and things like that that are getting people around. All forms of transportation. Yesterday, talking about transportation. You testified at the house energy and
Commerce Committee<\/a> about economist vehicles autonomous vehicles. Could you share some of the thoughts you shared about at the hearing yesterday and the biggest take away . Theres a tremendous opportunity we have in the history of mankind where we are losing one
Million People<\/a> per year through death and injury from car accident. Most of those accidents are human error. 94 is human error. If we can get rid of that, we will have we have all lost people. Its a tragedy that does not have to occur if we get it right. We will empower disabled people. There was a witness who was blind, representing blind people, in favor of this technology. Theres also older people as well. We are all aging. Getting someone back and forth with dr. Is a big deal. This a competitiveness battle going on. Major countries like china and others that are trying to lead on self driving cars. We have a lot of the technologies and silicon valley. There are so
Many Companies<\/a> out there who are part of this ecosystem. We have to get it right from a
Government Point<\/a> of view. Ces has become a car show. With most every major car company there. They are showing things. It is not a consumer show. Its a show where the entire ecosystem is there. They are doing deals. To succeed in any business, you have to do deals across the industry. Companies,p
Different Things<\/a> that consumers need. E have brand names
Consumers Want<\/a> to replicate their life at home. They want to put it in their car. Internet access, audio, video, jill locational devices. There is only
Different Things<\/a> you can do. Are we ready for
Driverless Cars<\/a> . Consumers are voting with their pocketbooks. They are spending a tremendous amount of money. Almost are cold cars sold now have features, all these things which may cars safer. Were starting to see a real dip downward despite the fact that we are driving more miles, the death rate is starting to go down. Sometimes, it is based on miles and speed limits and things like texting on driving. We are starting to see a great trend that im hopeful will continue. Where do you envision legislation happening in the space . The house is looking into some form of legislation. It has been tried before. What are some principles you would like to see . Legislation went through the house and
Nothing Happened<\/a> in the senate. They change their position for some reason. Its a challenge. It will affect auto parts replacement and tow truck drivers. All these legacy businesses and jobs are different. I dont think its our obligation as a country to make sure that lawyers have jobs. I dont think we should allow lawyers to control legislation. Everyone every new technology as an opportunity. We face that. ,e know that a lot of things status quo industries trying to protect themselves. With the
Motion Picture<\/a> industry, recording equipment, we see what they are doing with the internet. They are trying to impose liability on internet companies. Same thing with hotels. Theyre trying to shutdown airbnb. Between the
Movie Companies<\/a> and airbnb, they are trying to shut down a lot of new competition. Americans have the right to do that. What makes america greater is that our government doesnt listen to them. We favor innovation and progress. Thats who we are as a country. Not protecting the horse and buggy with companies in the industry that is out there. You have a tech liability field. It has been in place for over 20 years. We are now hearing conversations looking at trying to break that apart a little, amended in certain ways. Make a contingent on political speech neutrality. You are not allowed to have these protections and less you are ensuring speech online is neutral. That has no bipartisan support right now. Do you for see cracks happening in this congress . If i do my job right, they shouldnt. Senator josh hawley has a very promovie industry bias. Theres knows he could about that. He doesnt like the technology industry. Hes gunning for an award. Biden whoou have joe has said some of the same things. The
Motion Picture<\/a> industry is very strong, a powerful lobbying group. If it wasnt for section 230, the internet in a today would not exist. Theres a reason that we have five times the number of unicorns in the
United States<\/a> than europe despite the fact that we are culpable in size. We foster innovation. We said, this is a great technology. It sounds confusing. All it means is if you are an internet provider, you are not responsible for what individual consumers are posting on your website within certain exceptions. It is a
First Amendment<\/a> thing. That is something which has allowed us to grow. If this happens, if section 230 goes away, will google and twitter survive . Yes. Will a new started survive startup survive . Absolutely not. Theres a problem there. This is not about these great people saying, we are concerned about consumer things. Some senators are falling for this. It is a ruse. They are trying to say, this is something that is hurting americans. This is about the
First Amendment<\/a> and someones right to state their opponent online. We are dealing with the coronavirus thing in china. The
Chinese Government<\/a> shut down the internet and the doctor that warned about it. Now, we are dealing with a major health issue. They are shutting down the government. We are not china. We have a fundamental belief in the
First Amendment<\/a>. That is what is embedded in section 230. Whether that can survive
First Amendment<\/a> certainly, i do want to have to find out. We dont want to see
Congress Erode<\/a> section 230. It was
Just Announced<\/a> that britain is developing an office of internet regulation to be called off,. Is that a slippery slope . It is the name of the existing
British Telecom<\/a> office that is out there. They have been reasonable. Britain has been reasonable on a lot of these issues. We will see where they go. Their approach has been, we cant innovate so we will regulate. Theyve been unable to innovate. It has been one of the challenges they recognize. They are trying to change and somebody different ways. We will see what happens. I think that they pulled out of the eu because of the regulations they were imposing that britain didnt like. I would be surprised, given british sensibility, if that is the direction they are going in. I think the brits will be looking to innovate, free up some of the strictures they felt because of the eu. Im not losing sleep over that. Maybe i dont know enough. Speaking of europe, they passed the ub are, one of the largest privacy regulations in the world right now. We are looking at doing something similar in our congress. See are the prospects you for a settled privacy bill moving this year . What principles would you like to see if such a bill were to move . Its a great example of good intentions. The fact that it is across europe is a good thing. We copy of very similarly. It makes it better if there is a global sentiment. That allows anyone to start a business. What we are most concerned about that having 50 states with 50 different rules, ruining american business, granting money for their state. What makes america strong is the fact that on a national basis, we have a large innovation agree population. We create and we invent. When we construct that by having 50 different states with 50 different rules, thats a big problem. The number one thing is a national standard. Lets stop giving incentives for trial lawyers and attorney generals. We want to know whether something is legal or not and we will follow the rules. Especially if it can be done on a national basis. Lets not incentivize every lawyer to do it. The problem i have with lawyers, i am a recovering attorney, they have huge classes and they pay a lot of money. Anyone can get a law degree. Its not that bad. You have people with a license to sue. They use it. Theres only so much of a lawyer tax a competitive disadvantage is the number of lawyers we have. If we have an issue with another competitor, we should trade what they have with our lawyers. We have some new lawyers. We need to reduce our numbers. Its out of control of this. Lies, where do you want to see privacy moving . You would like to see one national standard. Youre in support of preemption. Heres the deal. We face competition now in three ways. Europe, theelves, europe approaches privacy everything. They have very little innovation. You have the right to be forgotten. You could do some really horrible things and to race your whole internet history. Thats what they do in europe. Thats the law. China goes the other way. There is no privacy. They know everything about you. Us and theptable to europeans to say that this is what a government does. To me, its an election of three bears. I would rather rest be right in the middle. All these new technologies require information and data. I was talking to the head of a
Major Medical<\/a> department. Im lucky if i can get 4000 data sets. The chinese have 400,000 and its no big deal. Privacy is great. Theres a tradeoff in privacy with whats reasonable. We value privacy in our room information. Not in every situation. If safety is involved come is health is involved, we give it up a little bit. We always will and we should. With competition and advancement, people prove that they are willing to give up their information for the greater good. It should be on a voluntary basis. The
Business Community<\/a> needs standards to follow. We will follow them. Dont kill all innovation in the name of protecting innovation. Has lost a loved one cancer and we can get yours, this is something we need to share information on. Hopefully people will do it voluntarily. Are we aware that we are sharing this information . Health care information is more sensitive versus commercial information. The reason that facebook and google are
Free Services<\/a> is because you are sharing information. You are getting ads that are suited to you. Some people dont like that. We are moving to a narrow where there are standards. They govern how these devices share information. No one is talking about that anymore. The industry has set up guidelines that they father. Follow. You can opt out. These are things which are common sense guidelines. Its just a matter of having voluntary guidelines. We cant afford to choke innovation. We cant afford it for our own health and safety. Do you think more people are comfortable giving their information to a private
Company Rather<\/a> than the government . We do give our private information in our tax filings. Im not going to say the government will ruin everything with information. I think if you trust the brand of the company, that will be the next competitive field, who is the name you can trust with privacy and your own information . Of a is a great
Example Company<\/a> that people trust with your information. Samsung is another great example. They have done a great job of keeping people keeping peoples information private. We have seen action in californias cc pa. Can you give us an impression . It went into effect didnt worry first. It is not enforceable until july 1. We saw a flurry of activity these companies have a lot of lawyers. It may affect funding or their ability to start a business. It was not a bad thing. It got me off of a few mailing lists. I dont think state should have their own laws on this. We need a national standard. It is chilling. If we have to follow 50 different states, that kills the startup community. The
Big Companies<\/a> can do with 50 states. Its more extensive for them. Its difficult. You have to to consumers in different states what are you you are doing. How can we get to a
National Standards<\/a> . Stc recently announced they mergers. T looking at what do you think of this retroactive look back of mergers . They have not indicated they will take action yet or not. Do you think this look back is warranted right now with the size of these
Large Companies<\/a> . . The the federal trade commission has a normative authority. We talked about competency policy. Acquisitionsk at going back several years, i find a troublesome. It was so long ago. Would be overwhelmed with millions and millions of documents. Maybe they will find something they think is industry interesting. Tearing apart a merger that occurred 10 years ago i dont how you would do that. I used to be an antitrust attorney. I think a company has a right to know what they are doing is legal or not. Those
Companies Made<\/a> acquisitions that followed the law. Ftc approved many of them. That scares me. Sometimes, government lawyers try to create new areas of law. If you are a business, you have a right to know what the law is when you do a business transaction. It should be clear. We have to challenge congress on this. What is the law and how can a business follow it . Dont create new theories because you dont like something that happened 10 years ago and theres a change in political it ministration. Lets deal with the future. If you have a new policy, make it perspective. To make it retroactive is not fair. Its not the american way. The white house chief
Technology Officer<\/a> also attended ces last year. Is it important that the white house have a cto . Absolutely. The first chief
Technology Officer<\/a> in the world was my best friend don upson, the secretary of virginia. He did something amazing. He made an effort to standardize the law of commercial business on the internet so business could occur. It was a bipartisan effort. It took over the world. Thats the standard today for the world. A chief
Technology Officer<\/a> and government has a clear job. He has continued the work of the
Obama Administration<\/a> in every major renovation area. Thats a lot of what has gone on with the company ministration involving technology. Path and heres the the policies to make it happen. There has not been this shift in change from one administration to the other with technology for the most part. Its really important that companies and businesses are looking forward. Technology is changing so rapidly. We know where we want to go. To serve oure want people so they are healthier and safer and better served. We also know that it makes sense to have someone with thats their job. He has done a fabulous job. His predecessors did a great job. Are we on the right path for 5g . Every 10 years, theres a new g. Faster, better, bigger wireless. If it was not for wireless, our economy would not be as healthy. We would not have the jobs we have. We are on the cusp of 5g. The technology is there. There are standards being worked out. There are all sorts of different ways of doing it. Its not like theres just one standard. Theres different sorts of spectrum that can be used. Our government has determined that one of the
Chinese Companies<\/a> is putting us at risk if we use the technology. I dont know. I trust the government there. We are in a bit of rip and replace. We are very focused on how we get to the broadband, to the rural communities. They are suffering without any g. Thats really important. It will get there. Its a question of when and how. Meetinges, i can veto of two of our cabinet secretaries and european ministers. Coming european and
American Values<\/a> in terms of privacy, liberty, they are very much in common. We have a mutual interest in making sure we get to the next technology, especially when china is harvesting data from everyone and they will have the data they need to do well in
Artificial Intelligence<\/a> and robotics. Have double the population of europe and the u. S. Combined. They are producing one million stem graduates the year. That is multiples more than we have in europe. They have everything they need in china to go forward. We have a sense of liberty and democracy and a shared interest in making sure that we are competitive and innovative as well. 5g is one of the chokepoints. Huawei exhibitor at ces or a member of cta . They are not a member but they exhibit at ces. They cant sell in the u. S. Ces is an international event. They meet their customers from elsewhere in the world. 5g, are we on the race to beat china . I know we are heavily competitive there. Now that wally is out of the picture, will that inhibit our growth in reaching broader 5g deployment . I dont know what it means to beat china. They will have more 5g the plymouth and we will. Best employment then we will. They will have more 5g because they have more than we do. Some of it, they were accused of taking. Affinity with kia and samsung. Other companies have stepped up to try to make sure that we can as western democracies and make sure that we can produce something which gets our citizens to what they want which is faster, quicker, bigger wireless pipes. We are into the 2020 elections. Im wondering what you think, whether companies are doing enough to address this disinformation online. Do you think they are taking enough responsibility in removing fake videos and such . We saw an instance last week of an altered video of nancy pelosi ripping up
Donald Trumps<\/a> speech , slicing it with other parts of his speech. Twitter and facebook decided it was not something to take down. Where do you think this conversation is heading going into the next election . Love forticians beating up on facebook. They all use it. I have yet to see a politician elected to congress where if their ads were analyzed by journalist, it was hardly accurate. I looked at that facebook ad. I saw nothing wrong with it. That is what nancy pelosi did. Anybody knows that she wasnt doing it while they were recognizing the 100yearold guy in our military. You are stepping in dangerous ground if you think that facebook should make judgment calls. I dont want private industry making judgment calls about political advertising. I think political advertising is why we have politics fighting each other. Is there a more reasonable course we can take . Timeframets limited for political advertising. Some countries cut it off. We have to get creative to level the
Playing Field<\/a> for politicians. If we start having
Companies Making<\/a> judgment calls about what theeal or not, and that is poster child, that was obviously satire and a political ad for anyone in washington. I cant believe that was the case. I think there are really fall sense. Sometimes the
New York Times<\/a> makes a judgment call. They have a lot of time to do that and a lot of ads. I dont think its a fair burden to put on a company like facebook or others. To say, you have to make this decision. There should be a way that does not involve them. Thats not for me to say. Thats for congress to make a decision on. I hope they make one respecting the
First Amendment<\/a>. It has not gotten a lot of respect lately. Traditional media is saying, thats unfair. The
First Amendment<\/a> protects everyone. It affects political speech, facebook rights as well. We have to be careful. The
First Amendment<\/a> is being torn up on
College Campuses<\/a> and by traditional media. It is being torn up by attacks on facebook. The
First Amendment<\/a> is so central to who we are as a nation. I hope that hate to see it around it. President and ceo of the
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