Politically in whatever interests they want us to do. How long have you been a Border Patrol agent . 22 tears. President trump is meeting with your group. Can you tell us what the meeting is about . He will speak with the spouses and children of our Border Patrol agents talking about what the policies the administration has implemented tomake our job safer and make the border more secure for the American Public. You have been an agent for 22 years. Andre a lot of administration. Give us your sense of how things are under the Trump Administration. If you look at the past administration, we felt greatly demoralized. We were not necessarily due to policies by the agency, we were not necessarily allowed to do our job. When that happens, we do not feel everybody wants to feel like they have accomplished something when they go home at the end of the day. We were not feeling that way. Under President Trump, we you feel like we are able to secure the border, the policies he has been implementing have been working, such as the aca, these are policies that he negotiated with other countries because congress has not helped him. Host looking at the numbers from the Trump Administration, 2016,prehensions, 408,000, it dips in 2017, it 2019,again in 2018, but almost 900,000 apprehensions. What is going on . Guest the American Public, they demanded that the president try to work with congress to close certain loopholes that were inviting people to cross the border illegally. When congress refused to help, that exacerbated the problem. That allowed criminal cartels to recruit people to come to the United States, put themselves in their hands. It also allowed criminal cartels to create a profit and revenue. When that did not work, President Trump out on his own and negotiated agreements with mexico, guatemala, and el salvador. These programs have caused a drop in illegal immigration and it is because congress refused to work with him. Host for those of us who do not live on the border, what do you ,hink is the biggest thing misunderstandings that americans do not know about the work you face on the border . Guest what most people do not understand, they believe that they believe the only people that we deal with are from mexico or central america. That is not true. We deal with people from all over the country. I have arrested a group of illegal Border Crossers that were from poland. We recently host the southern boy . Guest the southwest border. Host the southern border . Guest the southwest border. Two of the three individuals were sick with high fevers and we had to transport them to the hospital. This was a couple days ago. Most people think that all we deal with our people from mexico and central america. We deal with people from all over the world. Russia, brazil, china, everywhere. Host has that changed . Guest this is what we have seen throughout my career. Host tell us about the area where you work. Have you been there most of the time . Guest i have moved around a lot due to what i do. I want to get a full idea of what is going on in out in all of our borders. I spent 15 years in california and arizona. I moved to maine and spent three years in a man, now i am in montana. I spent the last five years in montana and in a couple months im moving back to arizona. They are different experiences, very different. Guest very different. Host one of the things that is a big part of President Trumps push is portable funding. We saw a news that he is moving money around, the headline in the washington times, the president will take more funds from the pentagon for the wall, the pentagon informed congress on thursday, it will take 3. 8 billion from its accounts to build president transporter balls as he rushes to get President Trumps border wall. Tell us what you see happening in terms of the wall being built. Guest it is being built right now. We added 100 miles of replacement wall. This is new system that help secure the border better. I would like to go back to my time in arizona, i work in a 58 mile stretch of border. We did not have any infrastructure, any border barriers. We were arresting over 100,000 people in this one small area a year. Thoserted building walls, arrests have dropped down to about 10,000 a year. Physical barriers in strategic locations work. All you have to do is look anywhere that we have dealt these areas, such as san diego, el paso, arizona. When we have done that, illegal immigration and drugs that is an important part drugs have gone down to those areas exponentially. Dictate whereo illegal crossings will take place rather than the criminal cartels dictating to us where they are going to cross. Host recently, there was a tunnel, california, arizona. Guest we want to vent to go underground because what happens, this costs that a lot of money to do and it is cost prohibitive. If they cannot get there across easily, it puts a dent in their profits, and we go after them with our intelligence department. That is where we want to be. Host a border agent for 22 years. Welcome back recalls and comments. Four republicans. Four democrats. Been in ever lifethreatening situations . Guest i have a couple times. It can be a dangerous job. Out,hing i like to point criminal organizations, they are the ones that will be dangerous. Bordery not to harm patrol agents because they know if they do, there will be public outcry because of what they have done. There will be pressure. There are sometimes they absolutely have to go out of ther way to get us out of picture so they can get their drugs across. Host are you feeling more political pressure from washington . You are ahead of the council, you represent your members. Feeling republican and democrat pressure . Interesting, when you look at moderate republicans and moderate democrats, they generally tend to agree that we have to secure the border. There is really a lot of agreement in that respect. It is when you get to the outliers, you talk about the radical left, the radical right, that is when you start getting into things that do not make sense policywise. The vertical right wants us to shut every than down to where nobody comes in illegally or illegally. The radical left does not want order patrol or ice anywhere. Near one of those policies work. It is where we are meeting in the middle that republicans and democrats can get along and they agree we have to secure the border. Host have you been down there when members of congress or the president has visited . When they leave and those members leave those torts, what is there take away . Guest it depends who it is. I have sat in on roundtables with President Trump when he has gone down to the border. He supports our mission. Because of that, the morale goes up exponentially. Then when you have members of congress i will say her name alexandria ocasiocortez, when she says we are running concentration camps and we are. Oh, morale is going to go in the tank. These are people who are supposed to support and she goes after the men and women, and that is a contrast between President Trump, who supports the men and women of a Border Patrol and supports the mission we are trying to accomplish. Host the number of Border Patrol agents that has grown and the last few years. Guest we have a hard time maintaining our agency because of the politics. We are in the spotlight. Right now, there is almost 20,000 Border Patrol agents nationwide. Host there was some military involvement in terms of support for you guys. Is that still happening . Guest we still have the national guard. What they do is act behind the scenes. They bring our cameras, they help with certain detention facilities, which allows us to free up our ages to be in the field to secure the border. They are a great help. Tot because we need increase the side of the Border Patrol staff . Guest we do not have enough agents to put our agents in the field. When our agents have to be in the Processing Center to process individuals or have to go on our cameras for monitor sensors, it takes agents out of the field where we need them to patrol the border. Host we have calls waiting period gym on long island on the independent line. Caller great job, buddy. I do not know why they did not come here, the Border Patrol, when they had that greenlight where the in new york lines were out the building and snaking around the building. They could have snatched some of these guys. They chopped up some people down the block from me. I could tell you, i am 66 now, 66 years old. I have to call the cops every weekend from april to october because the spanish people from south of the border love to blast the music so loud my ears my mirrors fell off the wall. Host leesburg, virginia. Jim on the independent line. Caller i applaud your service. I am a veteran. Illegal immigration and immigration are number two in my book. You have to take care of this immigration problem. Your comment on shutting down the border totally, i wish you could take a pause. The assimilation is not happening. We have 1000 channels on tv. They can sit there and watch spanish tv or korean tv all day long. I am in construction. I could be making a dollar or two an hour. I go on these construction sites. Large commercial construction sites building homes for these developers. I can speak to maybe one guy in the whole crew. It is ridiculous. Unemployment should be zero. Every ablebodied man and woman should be out there working. Everify should be fully enforced. Are you aware of i cant remember if it is m. I. T. Or yale study where they run the numbers. Probably over 30 million Illegal Immigrants in this country. Any word on the daca . Everything leaks in washington except something from the supreme court. If you came here illegally, your parents have to go home. I will give you a pass on the kids, but the parents have to go home. Host do you want to address this . Guest we have to separate illegal immigration with legal immigration. I dont think there is anybody in the United States that disagrees with legal immigration. The vast majority of the United States does not want to see people come here illegally and game the system and get all the benefits. As far as daca, the parents are subject to deportation. Daca was ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court. The parents are subject to deportation. The problem is finding those people that are here in the United States illegally. When we do find those individuals, ice does a great job of doing their portion of the putting their work into the immigration debate. Host the change the administration made, the migrant protection protocols. People come to the borders and they are told to wait in a border town until the case is heard . Guest what used happen, and this was the major problem, there are certain magnets that draw people to cross the border illegally. The main magnet was the catch and release program. Somebody would cross illegally, claim asylum, get released into the u. S. , and never show up for the Court Appearances. They would do what president obama termed disappearing into the shadows of society. President trump says we have to get rid of that magnet. We cannot release people into the United States and not have them show up to the Court Appearances. Now if somebody comes up and claims asylum, we send them back to mexico pending their asylum proceeding. If they show up to the court proceeding, they have the right to prove they should be allowed to remain in the United States. If they dont have that right, we send them back to their country. Host some pushback related to the violence in the mexican towns. The department of Homeland Security says this program is to increase access to court hearings. What it is doing is forcing 62,000 plus asylumseekers to wait in dangerous conditions with no hope they will ever have the opportunity to get a lawyer and virtually impossible chances of winning asylum regardless of the strength of their claims. Guest what frustrates me is just three years ago, if we ever issued if the state department issued a travel warning about going to mexico, everybody would be pushing back on that saying mexico is not dangerous. Now all of a sudden, mexico is extremely dangerous. The mexicans have certified these towns for their own country is perfectly safe for these migrants to be in their country. Frankly, you hear a lot of anecdotal evidence or anecdotal stories that there is violence in these mexico towns, but there is no actual evidence or physical evidence that the violence is taking place. Host is there evidence when called for the folks are coming back . Guest absolutely. We paroled them back into the United States for the hearing. As long as they give us an address or a way we can get a hold of them, we bring all of these individuals that are waiting for asylum back in to have their Court Appearance before an immigration judge. Host what happens after that hearing . Guest the burden of proof this is not a criminal proceeding. The burden of proof is on those individuals to prove they should be allowed to remain. If they cant prove that, they get sent back to their country. Host lancaster, pennsylvania. Vince on the republican line. Caller good morning. I wanted to say thank you for the job you all do down at the border. If it wasnt for cspan, i know a lot of folks, democrat, republican, independent, or plain old americans would probably never get the right story. It would not be spun like the media does. Whether it is fox or one of the other ones. There are a lot of folks that dont like what is going on. I called because this new bill trying to be passed with 44 democrats on board as far as folks that have been kicked out, going through the expense of taxpayers and bringing them back and having them tried, basically opening up all the borders. Pardon me for not remembering exactly what the law is called. After you do your effort and you cant be discouraged anymore, someone is throwing another pile on top of you. I want to know what you think of this new bill that is trying to be passed now. I want to thank you before you comment. We pray for you. Guest let me address the issue of cspan. I absolutely agree that cspan is right down the middle. They look at both sides of the issue. I can personally appreciate that. They dont take up one side or the other. The American Public needs that. We need to have an honest conversation. Once we have that honest conversation, whether you agree or disagree with me, at least you know the truth is and you can make up your own mind. As far as the bill he is talking about is hr 8353. That would make decriminalize the process of crossing the border illegally. This is a bill that does not have a prayer of passing. When we talk about the radical left in the radical right, bills get introduced. It will not pass. It has no support. It does not even have the support of the majority of democrats. It is not going to pass. To incentivize people to cross the border illegally, if you do that, people are going to violate our laws. You cannot incentivize. You cannot reward people for violating our laws. If you do that, they will continue to do that and that is what the bill will do. Host i want to play the comments of the subcommittee chair on the house foreign affairs. Here is what he said. [video] i have long advocated for robust u. S. Assistance to help mexico strengthen its democratic institution, combat corruption, defend human rights, and improve security. I believe mexico and United States have a shared responsibility to reduce Violent Crimes and improve quality of life to those living on both sides of our border. The United States must enact stricter gun laws, dedicate more resources to combating Money Laundering by the cartels, and increase investment in programs to reduce domestic demand for illegal drugs. We also expect a sincere commitment on the mexican side to reduce this violence. Host brandon judd . Guest i have never seen an Administration Work more with the Mexican Government than the Trump Administration has been doing. The Trump Administration has been trying to put as much pressure and give us much aid to mexico as possible to try to help with this crisis on the border. As far as guns, mexico has some of the toughest gun laws in the entire world. Yet they have one of the highest murder rates due to guns. To say the United States has to place stricter gun laws, i just do not know somebody from another country should be talking about it. Host where do the cartels get their guns . Guest there are a lot of places. They can get there from china, from many Different Countries. Some come from the United States. We saw that with fast and furious. Host lets hear from jerry from rhode island, independent line. Democrats line. Caller thank you for taking my call. I am a liberal. Liberals dont like laws. The democrats have had some great bills obstructed by the republicans that said we need more outposts, more cameras, more technology, more drones. When people come to the border we should be able to know they , are coming and be able to greet them with the proper people. If it is women and children, they get dropped off by the coyotes. They are criminals, we can stop them. A place on the border, locals put in 500 cameras and they stopped the drugs and put them in the ravines in these places. That is what we need to do. A wall is a wall of hate. If youre dropped off by the coyotes and you go 100 miles to a wall, you have to decide which way to go. The chance is you are going to die. It is a wall of hate. If you do it with the technology and the other way, it is compassionate and a much better way to go. Host are those human traffickers still as active as they have been in the past . Guest yes. They are more active due to the profits they can generate. What frustrates me is when our policies allow a criminal organization like the cartels to generate billions of dollars of revenue. What we should be for is legal immigration. We should be for people coming to our ports of entry and presenting themselves and asking for legal entry. What we should absolutely be against is people crossing our borders illegally. When they do that, they are putting themselves in the hands of very dangerous criminal cartels. They are paying these organizations thousands of dollars each to bring them to our borders and smuggle them into the United States. Host you mentioned your experience as a Border Patrol agent in maine and montana and lonelier outposts. Were there illegal crossings . Guest we have attempted illegal crossings everywhere. We have it on our northern borders, our coastal borders. We have more on the southwest border because it cost less to come up in mexico than what it does to fly into canada and then cross the northern border. As we do a better job on the southwest border, we can expect see more illegal immigration of the northern border, which is what we have in seeing. Host ashland, ohio. Gary, good morning. Caller i have three questions i would like to ask. Number one, what is the ideal population of the United States . Number two, what is the cost of illegal immigration to the american citizen . Number three, what is the cost of legal immigrants to the american citizen . Guest i would love to be able to answer that question but im a Law Enforcement agent. We dont deal with the cost aspect. What i can tell you about what i am an expert on is Border Security and how we can secure our border. Those are absolutely good questions and questions that need to be addressed. Im just not the one to address them. Host when did you get elected . Guest i was just elected again for another term yesterday. I have been the president for the last seven years. Host you balance that . You are a working agent as well . When you are finished this weekend, after meeting with President Trump, it is back to work next week . Guest i spent a great deal of time represent our agents and in uniform patrolling the border. Host mel in salt lake city, utah. Democrats line. Caller thank you for cspan. Right off the bat, i know trump cut legal immigration. There has to be more illegal immigration. You guys have it totally wrong. The one guy that called before me about sensors and cameras, lets go that route. Walls are totally not needed nowadays. You guys have got it all wrong. 800,000 people came across with a coyote, i dont think so. Host tell us about what efforts you see daily in terms of technology. What new technologies are being introduced . Guest we have gone the technology route. We spent the last part of the Bush Administration and the first part of the Obama Administration enamored with technology. Technology helps us detect people. It does not help us apprehend people. It is a mixture of both. Yes, we get enamored with technology. Drones flying in the air tells us there people crossing the border. If i dont have the personnel to actually respond to those individuals, there is nothing i can do. You have to have the proper mixture of technology, personnel and infrastructure. If all those three mesh together it is pieces of a puzzle. You cant complete a puzzle unless you have all the pieces. Technology is one piece of the puzzle and we are working on that. Host on the walls themselves, we have seen pictures of some that have blown down in the breeze. Guest as we are building those walls that is not a finished wall. Yes, some things like that will happen. You put the wall back up. You finish the construction. We have never had a finished wall blow down because of wind. Host susan in glenwood, illinois. Good morning. Caller good morning. Agent judd, i want to commend you for your service and congratulate you on your appointment for another term as president. Living in illinois and for over 25 years in arizona, can you tell the American Public what would happen if all the wall, all the restrictions on the border were removed . What would happen to our nation as a consequence of the action of the radical left . Guest what i can say is if we did not have the Border Patrol, did not have laws, yes, people would be coming across. We have the laws and the Border Patrol. As you pointed out we apprehended in 2019 almost one Million People that crossed illegally. If you have those laws and a Million People are crossing illegally, i would hate to imagine what would happen if we did not have any laws. We enforce the Laws Congress passes. We do not go out and decide what we want to do. All we are there for, Law Enforcement officers, border or municipal Law Enforcement officers, we enforce the laws passed by whatever authority passes those laws. Host how frustrating is it to see Congress Fail to pass comprehensive Immigration Reform over the course of now two decades . Guest its extremely frustrating. I go back to the Immigration Reform and control act of 1986. The problem was there was a legalization piece and enforcement piece. They gave a legalization piece but did not follow through on the enforcement piece. Because they did not follow through, it gave rise to the illegal immigration we saw. Because of that, weve had to double the Border Patrol on three separate occasions because of the number of people that were crossing our borders illegally. Anytime you incentivize crime, it is going to take place. We have laws in this country to protect the American Public. Frankly, it is the laws that made this country the greatest nation on earth. If we ignore those laws, we become like any other country. Host border have apprehensions drop. The number has dropped for the eighth straight month following crackdowns by the Trump Administration including forcing asylumseekers back over the u. S. Mexico border to wait out their claims. A couple comments on text. 202 7488003 if you want to send us a text. Tell us where you are texting from and your name. Jimbo in bakersfield, california. Independent. Wouldnt it be best to focus on upgrading these locations on the border with a smart wall . Is your work more effective under trump than previous administrations . Guest we have to look at the idea that more drugs are crossing at ports of entry than they do between the ports of entry. If its the same idea if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound . Just because you dont detect the drugs that are crossing the border between the ports of entry does not mean they are not crossing. What we can do is we can see how many drugs are in suburban america. You know how much is there based upon how many deaths are happening or the arrests. What we know is not all those drugs are crossing through the ports of entry. They are crossing between the ports of entry. We have a problem in both areas. We absolutely have to increase the enforcement at our ports of entry. We have to devote more resources. We also look at what is happening between the port of entry. As far as i will tell you under the Trump Administration morale is higher than even under the Bush Administration. That is because this president supports the work we do. Host a quick followup on drugs coming into the u. S. Is that somebody with a backpack on or a tractortrailer . Guest it depends on what drugs they are bringing across. If it is marijuana, it will be backpacks. If they are bringing across fentanyl, opioids, it will be in smaller containers. They will bring those through with cars to the ports of entry. You have to understand, at a port of entry i can inspect every Single Person in every single vehicle that comes into the u. S. It does not make sense to bring drugs through the ports of entry. If you go i dont have people, i cant inspect. It makes sense the cartels are going to bring the drugs between the ports of entry rather than through the secured locations. Host the next caller is karen in new jersey. Good morning. Caller good morning. I have a question on the border crossings. I see the focus is on people who are brown and black. I wanted to know how many who are not brown or black are crossing the border . What is there apprehension rate . Guest it does not matter what color a person is. Whether you are from china, whether youre from poland i arrested a group from poland. We see a picture of people crossing illegally. When somebody crosses and legally we deploy our agents to , the area and we will take those individuals into custody. I will tell you, i personally have never arrested somebody from africa. There have been arrests. I have personally not. I have arrested people from russia that were white. People from poland that were white. Yes, we do deal with the majority that what you already the majority are from mexico or central america. That is undeniable. It doesnt matter for you are from. If you crossed illegally, we will deploy resources and try to take you into custody. Host what was the story with the group from poland . Where did they land . Why were they coming to the u. S. . Guest during the processing, we have to try to determine that. They will give us a story. The best we could determine was they flew into mexico city and worked from mexico city up to the border. I think it was 2001. Host did they hire a coyote . Guest nobody crosses illegally without paying criminal cartels. You have to pay to work your way up to the border. Host rodney from maryland, independent line. Caller i wonder why no one talks about the real issue in south america. Im a selfemployed mechanic. I repair all kinds of equipment on the construction sites. Forklift and bobcat, that kinda stuff. I have been doing this for 22 years. Over the years, ive had quite a few customers who are mostly from el salvador or guatemala. It is very rare you find guys on the construction sites from mexico. The guys i deal with, they are building all the houses out there that people are living in. To a man, they tell me the reason they came to the u. S. Was because they cant make any money where they come from. I dont know 50, 60 plus years, we have been allowing american corporations to go south of the border to build their whatever they want to build, factories and stuff. They pay literally five dollars per day. No one can live on five dollars per day. If we have a universal wage and we required american corporations who want to go south of the border to make their products to pay the same wage they pay in this country, if you can make 20 in el salvador in an american factory, you would have people coming from the u. S. To go there to work. Host brandon judd . Guest i will first address why people are coming here. The vast majority of individuals coming here are coming here to work. They know that there is a lot more opportunity in the United States. So they will come to the United States. There are specific driving factors that force people to leave their country. There are specific factors that cause people to cross the border illegally. The main factor is we have the best country in the world, in my opinion. We have more opportunity than you will see throughout the world. People are going to want to come here. We want to see people come here legally, not illegally. Host please ask your guest about the everify program and why it does not work. Guest the program does not work simply because it is not being enforced. It is like any law. If you dont enforce a law, it will become a suggestion. If its a suggestion, people will violate it. If im driving down the interstate and the cops are going to allow me to go 10 miles over the speed limit, i will go 10 miles over the speed limit. I will stay just below with the cops are going to enforce. It is the same thing with any law. If are not enforcing it, people will look at it as a suggestion and blow it off. Host donald in kalamazoo, michigan on the republican line. Caller good morning. I have a couple of questions. I would like to say these people who call and talk about how little money they make in mexico and how much we make here, that is true. But five dollars is a lot more money in mexico than it is in the United States. A lot more. As far as separating the children, which i keep hearing about, i hope this man can tell me about the orphan trains. When we had children running loose like stray dogs in the street that were picked up like stray dogs, shipped out west, southwest, and given away like stray dogs. That is separation. Thank you. Guest what we saw in 2014 is we had this huge problem of unaccompanied minors coming up to the border without parents, without any sort of guardian. There was nothing that broke our hearts more than seeing that. You want to talk about misery. When we took people into custody that worked their way up through mexico and they were 3, 4, 5 years old, that will break your heart. That was true misery. That is the idea that we have that if you dont come to United States, you are not going to have the same opportunities. We dont see that anymore because what happens is you deal with issues. As issues arise, you put certain policies in place. We dealt with the issue and we dont see it anymore. Host anthony from staten island, new york on the republican line. Caller there is a reason why certain groups of foods are not allowed from Different Countries into the United States. Certain bugs to spread and cause major damage to crops. There is a coronavirus and other viruses that are now spreading everywhere. How do you control immigration where you dont know who is coming over the border and what kind of viruses or what kind of sicknesses they might be bringing potentially . There is also terrorism. There is also drugs coming in from the border. If you find yourself in the middle of the desert, how do you know you have actually crossed the border . Im talking about u. S. Citizens and mexican citizens, if there is no physical barrier . Host we have not talked about the coronavirus. What extra steps what has the Border Patrol been told about keeping an eye on this . Guest we are the first line of defense from allowing viruses to come in or different diseases to come into the United States. We have to be vigilant taking individuals into custody and medical screening on these individuals to find out if in fact they are contagious with a certain disease. If we find they are contagious, we immediately transport them to the hospitals to take proper steps. We are the first line of defense, which is one of the reasons it is important we do detect and apprehend every Single Person that crosses the border illegally. Host have you or your fellow agents gotten help from viruses, illnesses, diseases from immigrants you have arrested . Guest there have been many agents. As we see different illnesses spreading, we deal with that. We dealt with sars and ebola. Now were dealing with i think it was a week and half ago we arrested two chinese. That was on the onset of the coronavirus. They were sick. We had to determine whether or not they did in fact have the coronavirus. We are the front line of defense and have to deal with that. Host scott in new york on the independent line. Caller hello. Scott the human. Back a few years ago i was living in louisiana. There were five or six illegal aliens i worked with. I got a few points. Number one, on the west coast, canada to mexico, marijuana is legal. In mexico it is illegal. The states that have legalized marijuana have done more damage to the cartels than the dea could think about doing because marijuana should be legal and we should monopolize on it for our country. Host some final thoughts from brandon judd. Guest as far as drugs, we enforce the law. We dont determine what the laws are. If congress determined to marijuana if congress determines marijuana is legal, we will not seize marijuana. When he points out certain states have legalized marijuana, all the cartels do is they Just Transition to another drug that creates more profit. Even if you legalize marijuana, it does not mean it drugs will stop. They will start smuggling the opioids, the fentanyl. It has increased exponentially. Host brandon judd, meeting today with the president at the white house. The head of the national Border Patrol council. Thank you for being with us. Guest thank you for having me. Campaign 20 to nevada. Saturday night, at 11 00 eastern, president ial candidates joe biden, pete buttigieg, amy klobuchar, tom steyer, bernie sanders, and Elizabeth Warren speak before clark county democrats. On sunday, at 5 00 eastern, joe biden, pete buttigieg, amy klobuchar, and tom steyer speak on a forum on infrastructure. Live coverage on cspan, what on at cspan. 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