Transcripts For CSPAN Campaign 2020 NHIOP Lesser-Known Candi

Transcripts For CSPAN Campaign 2020 NHIOP Lesser-Known Candidates Forum - Democrats 20200209



everything devoted to politics right here. this is a special event, we are pleased that you could come out and make it. we have some special guests here today, the deputy secretary of state of new hampshire is here with us. also, one of the all-time greats of new hampshire, the person who has protected our primary and brought forth a real democracy in new hampshire and brought forth a lot of the wonderful aspects of this primary data so -- that so many people celebrate, especially us here at the institute of politics. without further ado, i would like to introduce secretary of state bill gardner. [applause] sec. gardner: thank you. every four years, this is a special night in new hampshire. it is a reflection of the primary and what it all about. the new hampshire primary from the beginning has been about the little guy. it gives an opportunity for any person who meets the qualifications to be able to have a chance to run for president, get on the ballot here, and we have had several instances over the years where someone who came into the state and was little known, added up -- ended up winning new hampshire and ended up becoming president. the primary has had a good record. no person has served as president since the people of new hampshire could vote directly for a presidential candidate. every single person since that time in 1952 who served as president has one at least one new hampshire primary. this evening gives an opportunity for all of those who are on the ballot to come and participate. we have 33 democrats on the ballot this time and 17 republicans. it is not unusual that we get 50, mid 60's is the highest we have had, since 1972, there has been an evening like this where all of those who are on the ballot will be able to have a chance to get their word out at a debate like this. tonight follows in that tradition. i want to introduce the person who is going to moderate this, who will introduce the candidates who will be here for the first one. last time four years ago, we had more republicans on the ballot than we had democrats and the republicans went first. four years ago, and this year, there are more democrats on the ballot, so the democrats are going first. with that, i would like to a newuce josh mcalpine, hampshire journalist who i personally hold a great deal of respect for, watching him over the years, he is going to be the moderator and i would like to -- he will then introduce the candidates and our panelists. josh? [applause] josh: i never thought there would be a day i would be introduced by someone i respect as much as secretary of state bill gardner. thank you for all you do for new hampshire. the new hampshire primary matters and it is the reason we can have something like this take place tonight. thank you again. i'm not going to spend a whole lot of time talking, let's get to know our candidates first. i will introduce them to the stage. it will not be in direct order as they are seated. let's start with mosey boyd from arkansas. followed by raymond michael from new york. how are you, sir? sam sloan from new york. mark stewart from connecticut. someone who really cherishes , who ity, david this'll understand has not arrived. moving forward, we have robbie wells. good to see you, sir. who am i missing? anyone? jason dunlop, sorry about that. jason hill's from maryland. >> dave is here. josh: what is that? mr. sasol. right on time. anybody checked that bag? all right. yeah, why don't we [inaudible] >> it has my notes. >> sorry, folks. josh: these are the candidates. thank you for arriving. the lesser-known candidates, but that does not diminish your willingness to serve. we certainly appreciate you being here. let me introduce our panelists who will ask the questions. starting with holly raymer, one of the most respected journalists in the state of new hampshire, 23 years for "the associated press" and has covered presidential campaigns and asked a lot of questions and they are always fair and down the middle and they are important. john d'este, sitting next to holly, a longtime journalist in new hampshire, political reporter for wmur. prior to that was with "the union leader." both former colleagues. we are lucky to have them both tonight. let's give a welcome to the panelists, as well. each candidate will be given a two minute opportunity for opening statements. the questions themselves, despite a typo, will require one minute response. we have tracy -- katie, sorry about that. katie has the time cards, she will let you know when we are getting close. any follow-ups, if they are required, i ask you to keep them short. we'll get started with the questions first -- in a moment. first, let's do opening statements and start at the far end, go right to left. if you are looking at the audience, with mr. wells. >> hello, everyone. my name is robbie wells. i am seeking the democratic nomination for president in 2020. i am from atlanta, georgia. it is great to be here in a new hampshire again. my thoughts and prayers are with the nine people that were lost two days ago in california and whether you are a sports hero or just an average joe, we are part of the family called the united states and these people billy -- will be missed. we face a critical moment in our nation. we must get real with the direction our nation is going to go. there are good people running for president that you see on tv all the time. i want you to understand, we have to get serious about this at real. you need someone that has the toughness to go up against mr. trump and defeat him. number one. and number two, someone who has the stamina to give you eight years of continuity in the white house. i truly believe i can do that. i believe my background doesn't -- does speak well for that. you deserve a president who loves all the people and has a plan to unify this country. i truly believe that whether you are black or white, male or female, young or old, a member of the lgbtq community, whatever your religion may be, we are all very unique in this country. we can celebrate our differences because we have one common bond. we are all americans. i have seen adversaries become allies when they come together with a common goal. that common goal is to achieve global, sustainable energy independence for the sake of our children. and our children's children, but make no mistake, america will achieve greatness for the first time once the lines of separation that have divided our people are completely a raise. -- erased. again, my name is robby wells. god bless each and everyone of you. [applause] josh: our next candidate, thistle from texas. >> hello everyone. sorry i am late, i was on the bus, it ran a little late. is anyone here from the nursing school? hi. you guys took care of my dad for 10 years, so thank you. i appreciated that. i am not really from texas. i am a veteran, i have been all over the country. i retired twice from the navy in a wheelchair. once in 1992 and again in 1996. i volunteered to serve in texas on the border because 80% of the drugs that come into america illegally cross that border in texas. the border is 1954 miles long from san diego to corpus. that is quite a wall. about $100 billion project with donald trump. $100 billion. that is a lot of money. i don't really feel it is necessary. we have a lot more pressing issues that we have to deal with where that money could be used. we need a clean energy initiative in the united states or you are probably not going to see grandchildren, quite frankly, according to the scientists and global warming initiatives programs going on. i was going to talk about the ba -- v.a. and substandards there, but i think the accountability in d.c. needs to be readdressed. like i said, our priorities need to change. i am here to try to help. i have been in the military since i was 16. my father served in the military from the age of 17 until he was 60. like i said, if it was not for saint anselm's, i would not be here. thank you. josh: thank you, appreciate that. mark stewart, connecticut. mark, take it away. >> thank you. i am an educator and businessman and i am running really for a better congress. i want a show of hands, how many here think our democracy runs imperfectly? how many think -- keep your hands up if this is the case -- our democracy is broken? a lot of you. there is a chance to dramatically change it and i lot of things move quickly and -- in washington, you think gosh, this is not going to happen until i am middle age. i am in middle age, i was saying that in my 20's. i am here to gain traction in any forum that will have me. i thank you and hope there will be others -- i'm not going to say just two weeks because i am in the ballot for four other primaries. vermont is up next. the message is similar and one to democrats and independents and libertarians and even republicans. things are broken. it takes an outsider to change it dramatically. it takes on your part a willingness to vote for an outsider. it is not going to damage bernie sanders if he gets one less delegate at the democratic party convention. but look what a vote -- let's say 2% in new hampshire, vote for one of us. because of being outsiders with a message that is a message are probably what you have to say, but gets diluted, diluted in congress where they have to trade off favors, gets diluted because individual candidates and legislators have to play to what media wants, what will 0-secondn a 3 soundbite. democrats who are not satisfied with the leaders on the national stage now, consider going outside the box. stewart for liberty is my website. we have 500 videos. i would love to have you watch. josh: thank you very much. appreciate that. next, mr. sloan. >> my name is sam sloan. i am a book publisher and internationally rated chess player. if you play the game of chess or study it seriously, you have almost certainly studied one of my books. if you study mathematics, you probably studied one of my math books i have published or reprinted. i have published 974 books. that is something like a record. we started off with 10 major candidates, none of these candidates are sitting amongst us. of the 10 that started, four are left. the ones that are out spend tens of millions of dollars in the money was wasted, down the drain because they are not running anymore. this is a ridiculous situation that so much money is wasted on major candidates and we are sitting here, any of us are just as qualified and good and we would make just as good a president as those guys who dropped out or the four that are still left. looking at the candidates still left, what can any of them do? i have done a lot of things. for example, i argued before the supreme court, won a case 9-0. i am the only living nonlawyer who has done that. nobody else but me has done this. nobody but me has published 974 books. nobody but me has done a whole bunch of things. you can look at my biography, i have done a bunch of things that nobody else has done. i'm am a person who gets out and does things every day, i get stuff done, i stir up trouble. it's true, but anyway, things happen when i am around. you will see that consistently. i think you'll know that if by some chance i get lucky and i am elected, things will start happening fast. there will be a difference having me around than other people. that is my major point, and i want you to look at the major candidates. can any of them do anything? just take any candidate. which of them can actually do something other than smile, have a nice smile, nice personality, and get votes, most of them are not capable of anything at all except running for election and getting elected. josh: thank you very much. appreciate that opening statement. next, mr. morose. >> my name is raymond michael morose. i am here running as a worker's president to get more unions in the workforce. the unions will need -- we need unions to help people with the coming displacement of workers to the computerization of jobs. when i was driving up here, i passed thousands of truck drivers whose jobs will be lost in the near future due to computer-driven trucks. robotics. workers -- toll workers, some are already gone. what happened to employment security? we need it. we need more unions that will provide it. i choose workers over algorithms, workers over robotic transport. i think we need worker counsel at every corporation, as germany does, every level so they can find work or retraining. we need a new respect for labor president. i will work to pass an act which will protect workers pensions that might run out of money. we need to make it easier, not harder, to form unions and collectively bargain. since ronald reagan, unions have declined because it is harder to form unions and collectively bargain. the development of cryptocurrencies will displace financial workers. will these financial institutions retrain workers for new jobs, i don't think so. i think we should develop quantum computing agency now that ibm developed a quantum computer and the federal government will oversee the implications of that as it relates to cryptocurrency. lastly, on the displacement line, we can have 30%, 40% unionized workforce in the country and as a society, we would be better off. thank you. thank you very much for that statement. josh: mr. dunlap. >> i want to start by apologizing. i am a bit nervous. this is one of the most terrifying things i have done. you will know why as you learn more about me. people like me are not supposed to seek the public light. sidney harris said that the difference difference between nationalism and patriotism is a nationalist -- a patriot is proud of what the country has done and a nationalist is proud to matter what it has done. the former has a responsibility to make sure the tale is told right. the latter leads to war. i want patriots to defend. if you think you hear steel in my voice, you do not. you hear titanium in my spine. i have four screws. i have served in every major engagement in some form since the balkans. i speak russian, german, serbian, croatian. at 17, i applied for my first secret clearance and had renewed every four years until i was 28 and retired. i retired from the military. when donald trump attacked the u.s. ic, he is not attacking nameless people in suits. he is attacking uniformed personnel. privates, specialists, sailors, people that service every day. people tend to separate those because they do not know, they assume the nsa is something else. it is not. it is people like us that protect you. that's what we did, and this is not the way our country is supposed to work. what will happen, i predict the steele dossier, i predate the u.s. government on the jamal khashoggi murder. if you look at the capital gazette and what that was. we are going to end up with a bigger disparity between the electoral college and popular vote but nobody has a strategy to be trump and russia and china and saudi arabia. it is only what they are going to do after the election, but they don't have a plan to win the election. they have a plan, but nobody has a strategy. thank you. >> the last opening statement comes from this void. boyd.m ms. >> thank you for having me. i'm grateful to be here. thank you for coming. i am running for president to rebuild patriotism by uniting americans around our shared values. i want to take a moment to speak to the nation through this opportunity we have this evening. president trump, vice president pence, senators, u.s. congress members, service members, public servants at the national and state and local levels, new hampshire voters, and my fellow americans, thank you all. i look forward to the opportunity to serve as your next commander-in-chief. i am ready for this job. i am the right woman at the right time. i own true grit law firm in fort smith, arkansas, i manage the river valley economic development council, and i lead madam president political action committee dedicated to electing women to the white house. for 20 years, i have supported women to serve as president of the united states. i just want to give you a brief history lesson. women have been running for president for over 150 years. in 1870, victoria woodhall announced herself as a candidate in the 1872 election. i think that is a long time to wait our turn. i have a plan for winning this race. i am working with robby wells and i believe we can rise up. we can rise up with robbie.com. i have an undergraduate degree from brown university in american civilization, looking at our multicultural history. i have a masters degree in national security studies from the school of foreign service at georgetown. i have a law degree from the university of arkansas at little rock. i believe i had the experience, the compassion, and the commitment to make this race happen. my campaign funds say mosie boyd for president, true grit. i have earned that and i hope to have the opportunity to share more and how we can work together and rise up at this critical time to defend our national sovereignty to protect our liberties and freedom. there is a reason the new hampshire state motto is live free or die. i believe this is a decision point and we need change. thank you. >> thank you very much, ms. boyd. time for the opening statements during the time for the q&a portion. we will send the first question to ms. boyd. >> welcome to new hampshire. welcome back to new hampshire. some of you have been here many times. you all made impressive opening statements and opening cases. let's be more specific. there is a feeling among -- you are running as democrats. democrats will be voting for you in the primary. voting in the primary or undeclared. make the case to those voters who are democrats, undeclared, as to the number one issue that seems to be on their minds before you get to the actual issues, taking donald trump out of office. how do you plan to do that in a more effective way than these top-tier candidates we see on television and on the national debate stage every day? why should these voters of new hampshire who are listening, look to you as the alternative? >> we are looking to win in november with a majority of the vote and the majority of the electoral college. right now, we are focused on the most liberal part of the democratic party. there is a whole spectrum of democrats that have been voting republican for a while. in the november election, we need moderates, independents, conservative democrats, and enough people to win the november election and the electoral college majority to be sworn in on january 20, 2021. i believe as a moderate democrat who has friends who are conservative and independent, who are willing to support me, the chairman of the republican party in my home county has said that if i win the democratic nomination, he will vote for me. one of our leading q&a group members who is a former mayor in fort smith, arkansas is an enthusiastic supporter of me and he wants to support a reasonable candidate in this next election. i think as fun as it is to speak to the far left, i think we have too much noise at the extremes of both parties and it is time to come back to the middle. and serve the american people. >> same question for mr. dunlop. what is your strategy to take down donald trump? remove him from office, i should say. donald trump has already drawn his line. he declared himself a nationalist. the next election has to be nationalism versus patriotism. the republican party is running under faux patriotism. they attacked my brothers like lt. col. vindman because of where he came from. he signed a contract and served with honor, same with anybody else. they will attack veterans but try to cloak themselves in the valor of others. he decided to do that. we have a choice to make. we have two big a candidate that can say -- or we can pick someone who gets close to it. it will look the

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