Americans from job discrimination. A. M. , a discussion on federal efforts to regulate chemicals. Ont good morning, everyone tuesday, january 14. We will begin with your thoughts on a fair impeachment trial in the senate. What does that look like . Democrats, 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001. And independents, 2027488002. Text us with your first name, city, and state at 2027488003. Or go to twitter at cspanwj and facebook. Com cspan to join us in the conversation. With the Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer, democrat of new york on the floor yesterday talking about what he would like to see in the senate trial. [video clip] a fair trial is one that considers all the facts and gives the senators all the information they need to make an informed decision. That means relevant witnesses. That means relevant documents. That means the truth. Senate these things, a trial would become a farce, a nationally televised meeting of the mock trial club. There is a reason that with one exception, every impeachment trial of any official in the history of the United States has featured witnesses. That one exception was the trial centuryator in the 18th. The question of his impeachment was dismissed on jurisdictional grounds before the issue of witnesses could come up. Every other trial had witnesses. When leader mcconnell talks about precedent, he is talking about witnesses, plain and simple. The democratic request for 4 fact witnesses and three specific sets of relevant documents is very much in line with our history. We dont know what those witnesses will say. We dont know what those reveal. S will regardless of the consequences , democrats arent on a quest for the truth. Host that was the minority leader and in a tweet he said republicans are so unwilling to argue against witnesses that they can only support delaying the decision. They are like the broken magic eight ball that keeps saying act again later. Democrats will force votes on witnesses and documents in a senate trial. The leader of the democrats promising a vote on this and Senate Democrats put out this video on twitter. [video clip] in every trial there has ever been in the senate, witnesses were called. It is not unusual to have a witness in a trial. Any doubt, call for witnesses in a trial. Who was engaged . Who was in the middle of it . It is a totally different case and the difference between getting the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. You are basically changing the trial. Host Senate Democrats are saying the chamber should follow trialent, the impeachment in the senate. Here is the majority yesterday on the floor. [video clip] the senate was never going to precommit ourselves to doing the prosecutors work for them. Have alreadyts done enough damage to the unity, andnational our institutions of government. The senate will not be sucked into this precedent breaking path. Ourill fulfill constitutional duty. We will honor the reason for which the founders created this our institutions and our republic can rise above shortterm the house has done enough damage, the senate is ready to fulfill our duty. Host Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell on the floor. Marco rubio tweeted out this. Claiming senate gop is going to hold trial without witnesses is lying. We are using same rules used in the clinton trial. During initial arguments, we will only consider testimony of witnesses used in the house. After initial phase, senate can hear additional witnesses if needed. Take a look at the rules for the senate trial in 1999. The house impeachment managers and the clinton defense Team Presented their cases. They each got 24 hours to do so. After that, senators had 16 hours to question the parties and then they held a vote to dismiss. If not dismissed, then they would vote to subpoena witnesses. Each side prevents presents evidence. This is from the clinton 1999 clinton impeachment trial rules. Senatorslicans deliberate behind closed doors, which they did, and they held a final vote on each article. That is what it looked like in 1999. Here is what Senate Republicans are arguing on twitter. After weeks of stalling, Speaker Pelosi finally announced she would transfer her urgent articles of impeachment to the senate, but she has not. The American People are ready to move on. Speaker pelosi is meeting behind closed doors with House Democrats today to talk about this and other legislative issues before the managers are voted on in the house and they will proceed with articles of impeachment over to the senate. That could happen. A vote on house managers as early as wednesday, but it is still up in the air at this point. Dodon in kansas city, what you think . What does a fair senate trial look like . Caller a fair trial would be a motion of dismissal and let and get this crap over with. Democrats had their chance when their trial in the house. No, to you and others senators insist on trial for trump. Apparently there is not enough votes to try to dismiss the articles of impeachment. This from roy blunt, who is part of the gop leadership in the senate. I would not think there is any interest on our side of dismissing, certainly there are not 51 votes for a motion to dismiss. The president and republicans for dismissal do not have the votes right now. Raymond in lexington, south carolina, republican. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. House did thing, the the investigation, take the evidence and look at it and decide whether or not based on trialidence they got the should go forward or not. This is dangerous for the future. In the future, what they ought to do before the congress the house of representatives can impeach a president , they need to present their evidence to the Supreme Court to see if the evidence is compelling enough that it should have a trial in the senate because this whole thing is a crock of nonsense. Adam schiff called it a parody. Phonek Donald Trumps call and could not find anything in it that was bad, so he made up the whole thing, he read it out onto the record as if it was an actual phone call and it was a bunch of nonsense. I will ask you seven times this and that and donald trump never said any of that. Destroying the institution, basically, is what they are doing. Host richard in california, what do you think . Finally, i say. A fair trial should not only have the testimony and witnesses from the investigation in the house, but any additional new witnesses pertinent to the facts and findings of the truth about what is really going on. Obviously you could not get all of that done because the white house blocked all witnesses and documents would have taken two years to get that information. If people like bolton and other people want to testify, they should be brought in. What you want is the truth. I hear all these calls about this is a sham. Are you kidding . There are probably 10 counts of impeachable things trump has done, they just did not have time to do the investigations to charge him with them. This is trump doing this is trumps doing. The good thing is we have democrats who can speak to abuse of power. It. Blicans want to dismiss macconnell is in league with the white house, he does not want anything. He wants to get this dismissed and go on. It is obviously so political. You have to be delusional to think this is some kind of conspiracy on the part of the democrats. I cannot believe it took this long to impeach him. Requestschdog group nnell. Probe into mcco the gop leader violated the u. S. Constitution and the senate rules. The public declarations that his role is to coordinate with the white house and thereby make a mockery of the trial contradicts his oath of impartiality. Mcconnell has come under scrutiny. He also told reporters he is not in thertial juror upcoming trial. Lets go to ron in pennsylvania, democratic caller. Caller good morning. I want to follow up with that. Ast caller republicans have to start realizing the American People, all we want is the truth and how did we get here . We got here because there was a. All made by our president our president was holding up aid to a country that needed aid. An extortion call basically was brought forth to the country. Now we have to get to the truth and when mr. Bolton said he was not going to be a part of the nsa deal and he quit as an person, we need to hear from him. As a country, we deserve better, we deserve the truth. We always tell our children never to lie, tell the truth. Bringhave a trial, lets witnesses and get this over with so the American People can move on. Host quinnipiac is out with a new poll. 51 of people surveyed approve of the house vote to impeach while 46 disapproved. 48 do not want the senate to the senatele 46 say should do so and they found 48 disapproved of the decision to hold onto articles of impeachment over the last couple weeks and 66 say john bolton should testify in a senate trial. Victor in florida, independent. Caller hi. I have a good idea as to how you can get at the truth. Test is a new lie detector out. I wish cspan would bring those people on. It is 90 reliable on detecting lies. Everyone of them should have to take that lie detector test, although it would not be binding for a conviction, but it would expose politicians for taking money from russia, from lobbyists because they want trump reelected. The russians have gone on record they want to trump reelected. Connell, they mc call him moscow mitch for a reason, because they think he is taking money. He has a long record of corruption. He appointed seven judges unqualified by the ada and try to appoint a racist judge, but they stopped him. He held up the nomination of a Supreme CourtJustice Obama appointed for 11 months. He breaks the law all the time. Mcconnell needs to be tried with treason and if they find out he has taken money from the russians, that is treasonable. Trump did not rise to the level of impeachment, all he should have gotten was a reprimand where you would set such a low bar all the future president s would be affected by it. Host there are 4 gop senators open to witnesses. ,hat includes Lisa Murkowski mitt romney, and Susan Collins. They say they are open to witnesses. Not open toy are witnesses right away. This is from the wall street journal. Democrats are pushing to hear from 4 people, including john bolton. Some Senate Republicans have said they would like to hear from witnesses such as mr. Bolton and senator collins said she was reaching out to republicans to reach an agreement that would allow witnesses requested by the house and white house to testify. Lamar alexander indicated he might be one of the republicans willing to join democrats voting for fresh evidence and testimony. Mitt romney said he would not witnessesar from right away, he would like to follow the clinton impeachment trial set up. They would hear initial arguments and then he would be open to voting to hearing more witnesses and evidence. Here is Chuck Schumer on the floor yesterday talking about hearing from witnesses and getting additional documents. [video clip] lets consider what legal mcconnell leader mcconnell is suggesting. In the clinton trial, the senate waited three weeks to confront the issue of witnesses. Once they decided on three witnesses with the support of Senate Republicans here today, including leader mcconnell, it took time for witnesses to be deposed and for the senate to consider what they submitted. Ultimately, the clinton trial ran for two more weeks. Republicanellow senators to ask themselves after the senate concludes the trial leader mcconnell wants to get through, do you think he wants to extend the trial by several weeks . Leader mcconnell has gone on record and said he wants the total. O span two weeks he has gone on record and said after we have heard the to vote ande ought move on. Are we to believe he has an open mind about extending the trial several more weeks . Host minority leader Chuck Schumers response to the idea of following the 1999 clinton impeachment trial rules. Democrats, as far as new theence, are looking at information between lev parnas and rudy giuliani. Text messages, who was arrested in october. The messages include exchanges between the two. That is an example of the asdence democrats would want they call for a trial in the senate. The president tweeting we demand fairness, shouts pelosi and the donothing democrats, yet they would not let us have one witness, lawyers, or ask questions. John in georgia, what do you think . Caller it looks like we got ourselves in a pickle. You have the house that has voted two articles of impeachment that have yet to be presented to the senate. That you put up in the clinton impeachment, if that is correct, it seems to me that would take care of the thing. You have the house managers , you give thecase president , if he chooses to , thent his case, 24 hours you have questioning by senators a few hours and then you would probably have a motion to dismiss. That will probably carry and that would take care of the matter procedurally and correctly. If the motion to dismiss fails and additional witnesses need to be called because of new senators can vote. If they vote to call witnesses, call witnesses. , youhn bolton is called know the president is going to invoke executive privilege. That will go to the courts and we will be tied up for a long while. Lets just do it. Host john in georgia. Beverly in North Carolina, democratic caller. Hi. Caller how are you . From florida, victor, he covered it all, except for one thing, Mitch Mcconnell and mr. Put in a factory in mcconnells state built and managed by a russian who was thrown out by obama. That is the only thing i want to add about that. However, with our trial with congress, with the house, 60,000 documents were sent in when clinton was impeached, 60,000. None were sent in this time by trump. He wants to do the same thing senate. Trial with the what can i say about senators . Back this man . He is the gift that keeps on giving. If you spend one time one , that is 1700tor. 40,000 by the time you end one term, they are a millionaire. T is all about money the constitution Means Nothing to any of them. We have a president who does not want to be a president , he wants to be a dictator. Will be inresident milwaukee for another campaign rally. You can listen to what the president has to say in wisconsin. Dan in massachusetts, independent. Caller thank you for having me on. Host morning. Caller for years and years, i watch lawyers that talk about congress and stuff and Jonathan Turley has got to be the most evenhanded scholar i have seen and he said he is a democrat, also. He said the evidence is so that it really should not rise to this level. He did suggest a couple other ways they could have subpoenaed more people and pressured the courts to get more people, but i dont think they are interested in that. This is more of a show and a circus. What i am really concerned about is we watch this whole mueller investigation. We watched these people from the fbi and the Justice Department being questioned. We have watched these people say ,ow they have committed treason lied on tv in sworn testimony. The press does not portray it that way to us. We are living in this world where the press and media tells us how we should think and they repeat it over and over and they expect us to respond how all the professionals say we should. We are in a scary time. Very basic logic shows what is going on. We have a heavyhanded government with a democratic powerwho is abusing their and we have seen it from the beginning. On tv, live, sworn testimony, over and over again. There is no question what is happening here. With thisin the house impeachment stuff, you should have your deposition. That is where the discovery happens. What do you think should happen in the senate trial, given everything you said . Caller the senate trial should take all the information, all the discovery the housemaid and they should work with what they are given in the house. Is where all this information should be gathered and then they vote on what to do with it. They had a onesided gathering exposition and they voted on it. The whole thing is tainted. I think giuliani has it right saying the Supreme Court needs to intervene. The house is out of order. It was a sham from the beginning. Host what does the white house want according to cnn, the white house wants a senate trial to include the ability to dismiss the articles of impeachment against the president. The Washington Post reports any senator can move to dismiss the charges as long as it is done so in writing. The front page of the washington blunt, fourth in line in Republican Leadership saying there are not the votes to dismiss the articles of impeachment. Stan in florida, republican. Caller good morning. Congress is supposed to find all the information and build a case based on information. How do we know what information they got when they do everything behind closed doors . Now all of a sudden they want to force the senate to do like they did. I think they ought to do like they did, do not worry about what they say. You are doing the trial. You dont have to call witnesses. You are not a factfinding thing. You are finding the Information Congress gave you and adam trump, that guy has hated since he got elected. He stood up in front of all america and held up these papers and said here is absolute truth trump conspired with the russians. That has never been proven by trial. He ran the you are telling me this is impartial . Host republican in delray beach, florida. An update on the conversation with all of you yesterday on iran. Mitch mcconnell is going to on the war powers resolution that would limit the president s ability to take military action against iran. He says he will strongly oppose the resolution, but he will allow debate. Mike pompeo was supposed to be testifying for the House Foreig