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CSPAN Washington Journal August 20, 0103

Adam wilson discusses the current challenges facing Law Enforcement in the u. S. And the state of relations between the police and the communities they serve. We will also take your phone calls, comments, and tweet. Live right now on cspan. Host this is the washington journal for january 2. We will ask you to share your thoughts about the largest about hate crimes and terrorist incidents in the United States. The fbi released data looking at hate crimes in the u. S. We will show you the data and ask you to give your thoughts on this topic. Here is how you can call us. 2027488000 if you live in the eastern and central time zones. 2027488001 if you live in the mountain and pacific time zones. And if you are a member of Law Enforcement and want to give your perspective, it is 2027488002. Ou can text us at 2027488003 you can post on our twitter feed at cspanwj and our Facebook Page available to you as well at facebook. Com cspan. The fbi last november released information about the topic of hate crimes in the u. S. This takes it up to 2018. When it comes to 2018, they found the fbi recorded there incidents. Hate crimetiple bias incidents which involved 173 it downs they broke to motivation behind the incident saying almost over half were based on race, ethnicity, ancestry bias. Bias based on religious and when it comes to matters of sexual orientation, 16. 7 . It breaks it down further by category, taking a look at the numbers and comparing from the year previous. When it comes to those idents, there were 4000 and religious matters, 1564 incidents in 2017 versus 1419 in 2018 and sexual orientation. In 2017, the bias motivations rose1130 cases and that slightly in 2018 to 1196 cases. It goes further, not only defining by crime category, but offenders as well. Of the known offenders, 53. 6 percent were white, 24 were black or africanamerican and 12 of race unknown and other 29. 9 accounting for were not hispanic or latino. Group of multiple ethnicities and more than half the cases, 59 point 9 , the ethnicity was unknown. When it comes to hate crimes and it is and the law in the United States, the Justice Department provides 6 categories of law that feature hate crimes. Crimerts with the hate prevention act of 2009, which makes it a federal crime to cause Bodily Injury or do so because of actual or perceived race, country of origin. Astatute saying it makes it crime to use or threaten to use force to interfere with housing rights because of a race, color, disability. X, or prohibits the intentional defacement, damage, destruction of religious property because of the religious nature of the property. Topic as you saw play out in new york and texas, you can talk about that or the heard. Ics you just if you want to call us and let us know what you think, 2027488000 for the eastern and central time zones. 2027488001 in the mountain and pacific time zones and if you are a member of Law Enforcement, call us and let us know your thoughts at 2027488002. You can also text us at 2027488003. He is inrts us off, maryland, you are first up. Caller good morning. The incident in new york, the man that killed the jewish people, he is a possessed man. The man in texas, demon possessed. Until they stop using terms like Mental Illness we are at a dangerous moment and things are going to intensify. You are going to see pure hate and evil. Host why not treat this as a Mental Illness issue . Caller you cannot medicate a demon possessed person. This guy in new york, he was in a cult. All these people, it is pure hate. Until people realize it, you dont know what we are dealing with, it is a spiritual war. Everybody wants to look at the physical. It is a spiritual problem. Host eric in rhode island, you are up. Caller unfortunately, i think it is going to increase as i told your screener and the reason why as the population gets more diverse, people get scared and in particular, me. I am a white caucasian german ancestry lead our the population growth in the United States in the beginning. That is not the case anymore. Populations get more scared because they become more diverse. I want to make one final point. Host are you currently scared for your own situation, is that what you are trying to say . Caller absolutely not. Host i just wanted to clarify that. Caller absolutely not. I am all set. I want to make one final point. In 1922, there was a chinese man who said this. There is the yellow race and the white race. All the yellow races are feeble and stupid. Check it out and we are trying to rule the world. Host archer in cincinnati, ohio. Caller hi. Host are you there . Caller marcia, i am here. Host marcia, i am sorry. Good morning. Caller i am interested in these statistics you put up. And adid not seem to be mention of the hate crimes against africanamericans done by police. I think it is important to moree the police do shooting than necessary. Makes you say that . What gives you that confidence of saying that . I know a young man in cincinnati murdered by a Police Officer. He was not even a Police Officer , he was employed by the university offcampus. He killed a young guy for not having a front license plate on his car. Of people do not have license plates and in texas, they are all over the place. Host lets hear from bill in new york, you are next up, good morning. Morning, pedro. Happy new year to everyone. Suggested, the last caller, is quite on point. The reason i say this is because the fpi came out with that report that said many of our organizations have been infiltrated by white supremacist racists. Host she was using one instance to base a total point a total point, to be fair. Caller i get where she is coming from, because if you have Police Officers doing these crimes also, they should also be a possible part of that data collected. Host to the larger issue of hate crimes and domestic terrorism, what do you want to add . Caller i think somebody said on the show the other day, a hate i i may do something a name as i do it, that doesnt mean i hate that whole population of people. We have to be careful with this. I want to say one more thing. I do believe the number one problem we have in our Society Worldwide is racism. And really injustice and if you look around the world, the payingwho are darker are a heavier penalty than anyone else. Host the Justice Department offers this definition when it comes to domestic terrorism saying according to the fbi, the website saying domestic terrorism is violent criminal acts committed by individuals and or groups to further ideological goals stemming from j in wisconsin, hello. Thank you forr cspan. Individual that is just a simple, thank you for cspan. Hear from chris wray, the fbi director testifying on capitol hill, the topic he was questioned on was the topic of domestic terrorism. [video clip] can you share with the committee the challenges you had with your agency in addressing domestic terrorism because there definition issues that continue to be a challenge from what i understand. Are think what you referring to, which we talked about a little bit in the past, there is not currently a domestic terrorism offense as such in the same way there is on the International Terrorism side a Material Support to foreign terrorist organizations. Having said that, we tackle the domestic threat through a wide variety of tools, explosive charges, gun charges, state and local charges, hate charges, so we use a lot of different tools to go after it and our folks have been resourceful with partners in making sure we dont let anybody get away with it. We had i think 107 domestic terrorism arrests in fiscal year 2019, which is about the same number as our International Terrorism arrests. Host the wall street journal takes a look at the incident in texas, a story saying it is gun advocates seeing lessons from the texas shooting that took place saying the incident was captured in vivid livestream video showing parishioners reaching for weapons circulating on social media with conservatives pointing to it as evidence that the new law works. We now have a situation where someone saved a lot of people. The founder of the Second Amendment foundation, some officials in texas and gun control advocates disagreed. Beto orourke tweeted on sunday clearly what we are doing in texas and in this country when it comes to guns are not working. The church identify the parishioners that sprang into actions, jack wilson, the former owner of a local gun range. Next up, carol, union city, california. Caller hello. Am i on . Host yes, you are on. Go ahead. Caller i am so upset with all these dumb labels and this racist business. When someone calls me racist. I am supposed to be white, but i am kind of tan. That . You have to do ,hen i get called racist finally, i am going to say i am racist, i only help people in the human race. Host to the larger issue of hate crimes and domestic terrorism. We have seen it play out in the last week or so. What do you think about the larger situation . Is so silly to be hateful in all of that. I think there is a group of people trying to divide all of us by putting all these labels on us. Joe in new jersey, good morning. Caller i just want to say one little thing. Did not haveedia this thing for republicans because they keep putting down saying the president is racist andeverything else democrats are the ones causing this mess because they are creating this hate because they say they hate the president , they hate this. Host how does the larger issue of hate crimes turn into a political issue, then . Caller the newspaper creates it. They just keep on putting out this stuff about everything the president is doing is bad, it is no good, they do this wrong, the same way now with the embassy being attacked, they are blaming that on the president. They are putting the blame on things they should not be. They should be together, not separate. The according to the fbi, statistics, which you can find forhe website, justice. Gov 2018, saying Law Enforcement agencies may specify the location of offense as one of 46 location designations adding that most hate crime incidents, 9 ared in or little over 9 at schools and colleges. A little over 5 at parking lots and garages. Churches, synagogues, loanes, and mosques and locations, a little over 11 per 11 . Nancy in texas, you are next up. To disagreeuld like with all the previous callers. It doesnt matter where we come from, this is a melting pot. The United States is the only country in the world that is a melting pot. We come from all different countries. Some are born natives, some are migrate some migrate. And ani am 48 years old american. I am not a mexicanamerican. I am not a texmex american. I am in american. The larger issue of hate crimes and domestic terrorism, what do you think of that . Caller i believe when you start taking the labels off of people and realize this is america and we need to stop looking at different groups and separating the groups. Host how does taking the labels off change anything . Caller it changes a lot because when we view the country as a whole, we are all americans. When you Start Holding people accountable for their behavior how do we hold them accountable . They do bad things, we discipline them. We find a way a just and fair way of disciplining them. Host it was earlier this week the new York Governor Andrew Cuomo talking about the rise of antisemitism, hate crimes in the United States after the incident at the hanukkah party. [video clip] meets ignorance. Time inan intolerant this country. Exploding. R, hatred it is an american cancer in the body politic. It literally turns one cell in we body against others and have seen it here in the state of new york. This is about the 13th incident ,f antisemitism in 13 weeks comes during a period of high holidays for the jewish people. Illegal. Olerant, it is at the end of the day, it is not just about words, it is about action and we have seen enough violencerk, this is spurred by hate, Mass Violence and i consider this an act of domestic terrorism, lets call. T what this is these people arent domestic terrorists and the law should reflect that. It should be punished as if it is an act of terrorism. Host here is how you can let us know, 2027488000 in the eastern and central time zones. 2027488001 in the mountain and pacific time zones and if you are a member of Law Enforcement, 2027488002. In the New York Times this morning, an oped by mitchell silver, a former new york Police Official associated as the director of Security Initiative joint program, how to combat antisemitic violence. As a former director of intelligence at the new york police department, i can tell you deterrent is crucial. In recent days, the office is committed to deploying extra Law Enforcement resources in endangered communities, this is a good start. Increase police patrols, the establishment of fixed posts and should be officers employed. Removing these resources after a short time has proved to be ineffective and incidents return as patrols leave. Recent antisemitic attacks are committed with by people with a history of psychiatric problems. Rather than being released immediately, those arrested should be evaluated to determine whether intervention is necessary. He does at a point saying when appropriate, and assailant should face jail time and a message that hate crimes will not go unpunished. In new york, we will hear from john, hello. Caller i get confused when you label a crime as a hate crime when you have a young kid, 17 or 18 go into a church and shoot people and then you have a crime that happened in new york city with a man wielding a machete and he chops people up and the started saying that was a case of Mental Illness and then you had this thing with the Police Officers in texas where another man went down there and his mission was to go down to shoot white Police Officers and that was not a hate crime that was a postwar syndrome issue he had. I think a lot of these labels are really used for statistic purposes only and you read the statistics at the beginning to prove points and you can take numbers and put labels on just about anything to get your point across. To me, call it what you want. These people that do these things are mentally ill, that is true, that is a true fact. Some people are doing it with the motive of hate. That is true. It is a hard one to argue. Both of these facts and labels are true, but i think the purpose they are being used for, that is where i think people that are supposed to be sane use these statistics i think they are the ones that really are host selfish such as what . Caller like the crime in new york city, they are coming across the media now this guy suffered from Mental Illness and they are setting him up like the guy was a victim because nobody paid attention and addressed his Mental Illness. You have a crime where you have a 17yearold kid go out and do something so heinous and you say this was a hate crime. Apply one label to all those instances . Is that what you are saying . Caller when somebody goes out callills somebody, if you that a hate crime, i would put that acrosstheboard. I dont care what color they are, i dont care what religion they are. I dont care how old they are, how young they are. I will call it a hate crime, i will agree with you there. The statistics come from the fbi, was getting an elaborate on your point. Karen in indiana, you are next up, hi. Caller thank you so much for washington journal, i love hearing from the people. The voters, and i love hearing about their opinions and ideas. I have one i think is important. I studied for many years, the america has been skewed by our tax base. If we would tax everyone equally and they did not feel disparity of income, of expenses and that kind of thing, they are going to have a lot more selfrespect and ability to go forward. Incomepeople by categories and if we do that, we are taxing the middle class. When i was working, i was paying 28 of my income to the government and i dont mind that because i like having Unemployment Insurance and Social Security. I am living on Social Security now. Are you saying these instances we see play out, saying in march, there are larger ties to Economic Issues . Is that what you are saying . Absolutely, everything starting to deteriorate has to notith us not tax taxing people dollars. Host what led you to start thinking that way . Ler the rich are able to i was abless to hide income based on beentions and so that has 30 years ago. I understand we have to have taxes to pay for the things we want and i think the people overall want health insurance. I can see somebody absolutely going berserk and shooting people because they have access , because they have bills that are absolutely tearing them apart in terms of health. Givingaren in indiana her thoughts. From our text service, this is nathaniel. I believe a lot of the hate crime has to do with changing demographics. No longer a predominately europeanamerican country. Been in pennsylvania, i am concerned with the move toward hatred of Law Enforcement. We cannot forget the work and sacrifices made by men and women in blue. Chicago a retired Chicago Police Department Person saying i think police do most of the shooting it only seems that way because those cases are more highprofile. Most often whi

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