Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 12132019 20240713 :

Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 12132019 20240713

Is next. Host this is the washington journal for december 13 and it is the House Judiciary Committee mary meeting at 10 00 to vote on articles of impeachment after a 14 hour debate yesterday of the articles themselves and proposed amendments by republicans, all of which were rejected. Our coverage will start at 9 30 this morning and up until then, we take your comments on this latest phase of the impeachment process. Here is how you can call us and let you know let us know your thoughts. 2027488001 for republicans. 2027488000 for democrats. And independents, 2027488002. Atyou want to text us, do so 2027488003. You can post on our fitter twitter feed at cspanwj. If you want to post on our facebook, you can do that at facebook. Com cspan. The website is available at cspan. Org if you want to watch the proceedings from yesterday, 14 hours in length. A vote was expected yesterday. However, it was at the end of the session this happened. [video clip] there has been a long two days of consideration and it is very late at night. I want the members on both sides of the aisle to think about what has happened over these last two days and search their consciences before we search our final votes cast our final votes. The committee will stand in recess until tomorrow morning at 10 00 a. M. I will move to divide the question so each of us must have opportunity to cast up or down vote. The committee is in recess. Mr. Chairman. There was no consulting for the Ranking Member on your schedule for tomorrow which you have just blown up schedules for everyone. You chose not to consult the Ranking Member on a schedule issue of this magnitude . So typical. This is the Kangaroo Court we are talking about. Lets have ae, dictator, it is good to hear about that. Host 10 00 is when you can see it on cspan. If you want to listen to it and you have to go out and about, you can download it on your device and use our cspan radio app. Some of the amendments yesterday, you heard from jim jordan of ohio, he offered an amendment defeated along party lines to strike the first article arguing the Ukrainian Government never announced an investigation into the bidens. It was the rhode island democrat who recounted various testimony from senior state to permit officials and other witnesses who appeared before the House Intelligence Committee pointing towards wrongdoing by trump. The Pennsylvania Republican offering an amendment to eliminate the second impeachment article. That amendment defeated 1723 and he made the case that Trump Administration provided the panel thousands of documents and witnesses. That was pushed back by other members of democrats including jerry nadler defending the article saying the president s decision not to recognize congress authority of impeachment by barring testimony rption ofr usu congress role. You, itshow it to starts at 10 00 and we will start coverage at 9 30. Can follow along on the website. Silly, granite city, illinois. You are up first. Caller good morning. Moderatelitically person. Therefore, i am a democrat. I am 75 years old and i remember well the nixon impeachment. My mother, at the time, was an extremely conservative republican and her attitude was there is never a situation where one should impeach the president. She believed the president , like nixon said, whatever he did isnt illegal. You elect a tyrant, in a sense. She did not understand much about the constitution or the congress, certainly not about the Supreme Court. She graduated eighth grade from a country school. Host so you dont hold that view or you do hold that view . Caller i dont. I spent 30 years teaching logic, ethics, and Critical Thinking in colleges, so i do not hold that view. I think there is a very good reason why in the constitution, which i have talked about a lot in classes in the section on justice in ethics classes, there is a very good reason why the founding dollars put the legislature as article 1. It is intended to be the most powerful of the 3 branches. People talk about them being equal. If you really read the forget what wed are used to talking about, the president of the united dates was designed to be a city manager we hire and administrator because 435 people in the house cannot administer anything, they had to have somebody to pay the bills and do those kinds of things. Host that is ken in illinois. Steve in bay village, hello. Caller good morning. I think it is much ado about nothing. I think maybe trump could have behaved a little bit better, but what he is guilty of, i believe half the people in congress have done worst worse than he has. After spending all this money, everyone knows the house is going to impeach and the senate is going to acquit them, so what has we what have we received for all the money we spent . Host that is steve. If you go to the hill, a couple of stories taking a look at the senates perspective on the impeachment process saying Mitch Mcconnell pledging he will be in total coordination with the white house as he plots the strategy for an impeachment trial. It was during an interview he pledged he would be in sync with the white House Counsel whom he met with privately yesterday. Everything i do during this time on coordinating with the white House Counsel he was pressed in that interview about the potential for witnesses during a senate trial. In the story adding he would coordinate with trumps lawyers. A story about how republicans and democrats in the senate are looking to the potential of witnesses. Democrats warned republicans will pay a political price if they cut the trial short. They want to hear from mick mulvaney, john bolton, mike pompeo, and possibly the office of management and budget acting director. These are obvious witnesses, that was the Senate Democratic whip dick durbin. It is reasonable this is going to be a trial. The story adding republicans warned Democrats Press for those people, they will demand joe biden and hunter testify about their possible ties to ukrainian corruption. Jim, buffalo, new york. Caller i have been watching all of this nonsense and it has been so clear to me from day 1 it is get trump at any cost. I am so sorry hilary did not win, but grow up, democrats, it is over. They have done nothing but destroy this country by their sham investigations. Trump has done a lot of good things for this country and he has certainly made stupid comments like when he mocked that reporter for being handicapped, you cannot defend that. You have to give him credit for what he has done for the economy and finally we have somebody standing up to these other countries and not letting them walk all over us. The only thing i think the democrats have accomplished is the general public of my friends and i feel maybe it is time to split the country in half and have two separate countries, let the democrats and tv personalities and movie stars have their country and the rest of us can go to our own side. Host speaking of the president for his perspective, tweeting today about the events of yesterday saying republicans Republican House members were fantastic, it helps to have a much better case, the dams have known dems have no case. Next from georgia, democrats line. Articles watched the of impeachment yesterday and i am very sorry doug collins represents the state of georgia. What a horses ass. And these people that want to keep him as the president are asking for trouble on top of trouble. That is my comment, thank you. Host kentucky is next, we will hear from mark, republican line. Caller this is mark from kentucky. I watched all of the show last night and i watched the other night. I have been watching the whole thing and to me, it is a waste of money when they could be doing good things for the country. The country has been doing good, i dont understand why they keep putting this president through all this stuff for nothing. Money, it is af waste of money. They could have decided last night to vote on it. Instead, they want to come back today, come on tv. It did not make a it did not make sense. Host john is next in cincinnati, ohio. Issue has to do with this obstruction of congress, contempt of congress and accountability. I believe the law says contempt of congress, people shall be prosecuted. You make up your what ther and Inspector General is reporting of all the failures of the fbi , would you ask like eric holder and lois lerner what the penalty is for contempt of congress . Apparently it looks like it is nothing and you never see any of these people lose their pensions and benefits. You have to hit them in the pocket because that is all they understand and i appreciate comments. All of this hearing available at our website. We will start with madeleine dean, she drew parallels to the efforts of yesterday and the nixon watergate hearings. [video clip] lets go back. As has been stated today, the constitution devotes only a few sentences to impeachment. I will read one. Article 1, section 2, the house of representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers and shall have the sole power of impeachment. As professor raskin told us properly, the constitution uses sole only the word twice. Not shared with judiciary or executive. That means we have the sole opportunity and up obligation to determine what evidence is necessary for impeachment. Not shared with the executive. Judiciary chairman peter rodino warned president nixon about his failure to comply with subpoenas issued in the watergate impeachment inquiry. It is not within the power of the president to conduct an inquiry into his own impeachment to determine which evidence and what version or portion of that evidence is relevant and necessary to such an inquiry. These are matters which under the constitution the house has the sole power to determine, not shared with the executive, not shared with the courts. It is a civics lesson, dont let the other side, who have such talented constitutional attorneys over there distract you, this is not an ordinary dispute, this is a very rare, thankfully, very rare dispute. It is not an ordinary dispute where you go to the court, we dont need permission to use our constitutional rules. Host you can give us a call. 2027488001 for republicans. Democrats, 2027488000. And independents, 2027488002. Text us at 2027488003. Carol from wyoming saying i dont understand what part the president is hiding phone calls and messages telling his people to ignore requests is not obstruction. James says i hope the American People can now see we need thirdparty. From kentucky, democrats line, jim, you are on. Been a registered democrat for years and i have always voted for the person i thought was more than job. Equipped to do the i dont understand what is going on. S Hillary Clinton deal they dont have any reason to impeach the president and i dont know if i can vote democrat anymore. Ares a democrat, why you saying there is no case that has been made by the democrats for impeachment . No, not really. I watched it and over and they. Ont have a leg to stand on it is a route up system screwed up system. They are not letting republicans. Ave their say it is very screwed up. Host francis, republican line, hi. Caller they have been after trump from the beginning. Alls a democrat, but after their baloney, i said i have had enough, i am going to become a republican. I voted for trump. I am proud of what he is doing for our country. They dont have a leg to stand on. They are making up whatever they feel like and that is what i have got to say. Thank you. Host we will continue until about 9 30 with your calls and comments on todays expected vote. You continue to call us, you can post on our social media sites and text us. A lot of other things going on in capitol hill this week, especially as time is coming short for the house and senate to take their christmas break. One of those things happening yesterday concerning the budget. Joining us is caitlin emma. Good morning. Guest thank you for having me. Host in essence, a deal reached when it comes to spending, walk through the big points of the deal. Guest this is a longdelayed deal. There is a dozen bills that fund the federal government. Over the summer, lawmakers were able to craft a bipartisan budget deal and these bills stem from that deal. This has been months and months in the making and there has been a lot of partisan fighting over the border wall and other hot button issues in order to get to this point. What essentially happened yesterday afternoon is top appropriators in congress announced they have reached sort of a tentative deal, a deal in principle to pass all 12 of these bills before december 20, funding when government is expected to expire. Not saying there would necessarily be a Government Shutdown, but we would likely be facing another continuing resolution, which would drag out current funding levels to another date, which would probably be early into next year. Essentially, they are keeping the details of their agreement under tight wraps while they work through other issues, technicalities and trying to figure out what might ride on to some of these bills. A source told us yesterday in terms of the immigration issues, the border wall funding issues, it would flat fund the aboutents border wall at 1. 4 billion and it maintains his authority to move money around if that is what he decides to do in order to build parts of the wall. That had been a provision democrats had been seeking. The white house made very clear that if you do that, you are going to tank the president toss support for spending bills and you dont want another Government Shutdown over the holiday season. That is as much as we know at this point. A source told us the deal would not backfill military Construction Funding the president tried to raid in order to build a wall. A federal judge earlier this week actually blocked him from doing that. Aside from that, there are a number of other hot button issues we are not sure how they have shaken out. A compromise is a compromise and the House Appropriations chairwoman told reporters not everybody will be happy with this. Really, we need it to pass and these bills do a lot of good for a lot of people. Host is the white house ready to sign onto this . Caller the white house has not officially signed off, that is always the big caveat. The Government Shutdown over christmas last year is fresh and everybodys minds. Steve mnuchin has been to capitol hill twice this week, he was there yesterday morning. He stressed the president is supportive of appropriators in crafting a deal in their endeavor to pass all 12 bills next friday. He has sort of given this illusion of the white blessing,pport or but this is not over until we see text and congress can pass them and until the president can sign them. Host you talk about some democratic concerns over the , what aref republicans saying . Caller trip guest republicans have been somewhat quiet, they have demanded more money for the president s border wall and they have said placing restrictions on his transfer authority would be a nonstarter and they have also thought the restoration of military Construction Funds the president wall. Ed to build his it has been barely 24 hours at this point. I think we can expect a lot of folks to have a lot of different feelings about the way this shakes out. As the chairwoman said the other day, not everybody will get 100 of what they want. At the end of the day, you have to fund the government. Host some legislators saying the bill did not address or things they wanted to see when it comes to their interest. Guest there is sort of an interesting dynamic earlier this week it became clear Kevin Mccarthy, republican leader in wanted certainth items in the spending bills for issues back home. He was looking for a provision that would essentially allow a dam in california to hold more water while Speaker Pelosi wanted 10 million for a project. There was sort of this dynamic of if you get that, i should get this kind of thing and that is very common of what lawmakers typically want in a deal like this, it is about being able to bring things back home. With the final product, it is unclear how that has shaken out since details are being kept tightly under wraps. Host what happens to finalize this deal and keep the government from shutting down . Said, i think lawmakers and staff will continue to work over the weekend to sort through the technicalities of putting this together. There is a question of what might ride along with the bills, things like that, we need to see actual text, which is a huge list for the folks putting this together, that could possibly happen maybe over the weekend, maybe monday. Congress is sort of setting a tuesday is when we are looking at voting on all 12 bills likely in two separate. Ackages called minibuses it is possible the house might have government funding taken holdingby tuesday night their breath and crossing our fingers. Ons part of a huge wednesday, they are voting on articles of impeachment on the house floor and thursday they huge tradeking up deals. Huge week before they leave for the holiday break. Like i said, it is not over until it is over, the house passes on tuesday and that gives the senate time to do their thing and the president has to sign this by friday when government funding runs out. Host this is caitlin emma. That is the story about the deal she has been talking about, 1. 3 evan trillion dollars 1. 37 trillion. Thank you for your time. Host internationally, the bbc reporting on the victory of Boris Johnson in the u. K. , winning another term as prime minister. A big victory for the conservative party. The story from the bbc highlights the fact that the conservative partys comments majority is in its largest since Margaret Thatcher won a third term in 1987. The president of the United States congratulating boris tweet. Via britain and the United States will be free to strike a massive new trade deal. This deal has the potential to be bigger and fa

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