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CSPAN House Intelligence Chair Adam Schiff On Impeachment Inquiry Report July 13, 2024

Hours of work through depositions, open hearings, and compiling all the evidence into todays report. It was enor it was an enormous task and i want to begin by acknowledging the great work of the great and late colleague of mine elijah cummings. We continue to be inspired by his legacy. And guided by thoughts of his integrity and the great moral clarity he always showed in his work. I also want to thank my colleagues, chairman engel, chairwoman maloney, for their tremendous work as well. This report chronicles a scheme by the president of the United States to coerce an ally, ukraine, that is at war with an adversary, russia, into doing the president s political dirty work. It involves a scheme in which donald trump with held official acts of acts, a white house meeting, as well as hundreds of millions of dollars of needed mill tafere assistance, in order to compel that power to deliver two investigations he believed would assist his reelection campaign. I want to underscore first of all just how important that white house meeting was to ukraine. Ukraine has a new reformer as its president. President zelensky. A meeting with the most important patron of ukraine, the president of the United States, in the oval office, carries enormous significance both to the people of ukraine, but as equally important, to russia. That the United States has ukraines back in its conflict with a nation which incladed its territory. The military assistance is also absolutely essential. As president zelensky go into corkses negotiations with vladimir putin, the fact that the United States is providing substantial military assistance approved on a bipartisan basis by congress is enormously important. The with holding of that aid even for a period of time sends a disastrous message to friend and foe alike that the United States does not have the back of its ally. So these were things that ukraine desperately wanted and needed. At the same time there was something President Trump desperate hi wanted and believe head needed, and that was an investigation that would damage the rival he feared apparently the most, joe biden, as well as an investigation into a debunked Conspiracy Theory that it was ukraine, not russia, that interfered in our last election. That Conspiracy Theory, which is often summarized, characterized by the term crowd strike that Conspiracy Theory is a russian narrative. That is a Conspiracy Theory put out, promulgated, by vladimir putin. To deflect attention away from russias interference in our own elections and to try to drive a wedge between the United States and the nation of ukraine. So thats what the president wanted. These two sham investigations. One into joe biden. Also debunked and discredited. That sham investigative theory but also into this idea that ukraine interfered now election, not russia. He was willing to sacrifice the National Security of the United States by with holding military aid and diplomatic recognition in the form of the white house meeting in order to get what he wanned. That scheme, however, was discovered. Because among other things a courageous person stepped forward and blew the whistle. But also because congress announced it would investigate the matter. Once we dwan our investigation and once it became clear to the president and to the white house that this was going to become public, this scheme was going to become public, only then did the president of the United States release the military aid and as for that white house meeting that ukraine so desperately sought that has still not happened to this day. Now, what does this mean for americans . Why should they care about what the president did visavis ukraine . Why should they care about ukraine . First of all, this is not about ukraine. This is about our democracy. This is about our National Security. This is about whether the American People have a right to expect that the president of the United States is going to act in their interests work their security in mind, and not for some ill list personal or political reason. So americans should care deeply about whether the president of the United States is betraying their trust in him. Betraying that oath that he took to the constitution to protect our country. And defend its institutions. So we should care about this. We must care about this. And if we dont care about this, we can darn well be assured the president will be back at it, doing this all over again. Because indeed, he already has. First there was the invitation to russia to interfere in our last election, russia, if youre listening, hack hillarys emails, and later that day they tried to do exactly that but then there was the use of this official power to compel another country, ukraine, to interfere in the 2020 election. And even after, even after our investigation began, even after the impeachment inquiry began, there was President Donald Trump out on the white house lawn, once again making it abundantly clear that he wanted ukraine to investigate the bidens. And whats more, he wanted other countries to interfere in our election as well. And that china should also investigate the bidens. This is the result of a president who believes he is beyond indictment, beyond impeachment, beyond any form of accountability and indeed above the law. And that is a very dangerous thing for this country. To have an unethical president who believes theyre above the law. The question now is what does congress do about this . One of the other very important elements of our report today which goes beyond the president s misconduct with ukraine goes to the president s obstruction of the congress. Of a coequal branch of government. And i want to underscore also the seriousness of this misconduct. Because the president informed every department for which we sought records, the state department, the office of management and budget which has the records about the with holding of the aid, the defense department, his own white house personnel, to refuse to turn over a single document in answer to congressional subpoenas. The president instructed witnesses not to appear. The president used his office and his bully pulpit to try to intimidate witnesses. If the Congress Allows a esident who so fully and blanketly obstructs the work of Congress Even involves an impeachment investigation into the president s own misconduct, then we are begging for more of the same. We are signaling to any future president that can engage in whatever corruption, malfeasance or negligence and they are beyond accountability. And to my g. O. P. Colleague, they need to consider that when we have a democratic president , are they willing to say in answer to their oversight that a president may simply refuse . Because if they are and if we do, it will mean that the balance of power between our branches of government will be fundamentally altered and altered for the worse. It will mean that future corruption, malfeasance and incompetence will be far more likely than it is today. The facts here are really not seriously contested. Indeed, the testimony of the witnesses was remarkably consistent. And you might be foregiven having watched the hearings and watched the reaction of the members of the two parties to the testimony of these witnesses if you thought they were two different hearings going on at the same time. This points out another danger that the Founding Fathers were all too aware of, an thats is the danger of excessive factionalism. That is that a Political Party may become so weded to a president of their own party that theyre unwilling to do their constitutional duty. If oneirmly believe that party relinquishes its responsibility to the constitution and their oath it does not relieve us of our obligation to the same. I hope that every member of the house and the senate, whether these proceedings go forward in the house or they dont, will keep in mind their duty as to the constitution. Not to the person of the president. That ought to be our guiding principal. Finally, i think whats is really us here so aptly summed up in what the president s own chief of staff had to say when he informed the country that yes, indeed, they had with held military aid to get this political investigation. He told us to get over it. To get over it. That is what the president does. We should just get over it. This is essentially what he was saying. That we need to just get used to the idea of a corrupt president and get over it. And so we will have to decide, given that the evidence of this misconduct is so clear and uncontested, are we prepared to just get over it . Are we prepared to say that henceforth we must expect from this president and those that follow that there will be a certain amount of corruption in which the National Security of the country will be compromised, in which which the oath of office will mean that much less, in which the belief in the rule of law and the United States in the United States will be that much less, is that what were simply to get over or get used to . Well, i for one dont think we should get over this i dont think we should get used to this i dont think thats what the founds of the country had in mind. Indeed, i think that when they prescribed a remedy, kind of conduct by a president of the United States putting his own personal political interests above the interests of the American People was exactly why they prescribed a remedy as extraordinary as the remedy of impeachment. And so we have a very difficult decision ahead of us to make. And i have every can can confidence that the Judiciary Committee in consultation with the entire caucus and our leadership will not only receive this report as well as the reports of others and make a proper demmings about what articles of impeachment are warranted. With that im happy to respond to questions. When did you obtain the cell phone records that are in this report . And what cothey tell you that you didnt learn otherwise . Mr. Schiff i cant go into the speves of dates in which we obtained certain evidence or indeed whether we obtained communications from one or multiple parties. But certainly the phone records show that there was considerable coordination among the parties, including the white house. Coordination in the smear ampaign against ambassador yovanovitch which cleared the way for the three amigos to take over the ukraine policy, coordination in execution of that policy and this was indead a continuum that began prior tooth recall of the ambassador. Now your question gets to a very important point which is, there is more investigative work to be done. One of the issues that we are looking into is, did this scheme begin far earlier than we first understood . Was this scheme in fact put in place to try to pressure the last president , por sean coe, and his corrupt prosecutor general into conducting these same investigations . And was that plan put into new il and chaos when this reformer zelensky surged in the polling and ultimately won that presidency . Thats something we continue to investigate. And that is something that these phone records also shed light on. But even as we believe that we cannot wait because the president s efforts to secure intervention in the next election persist, we continue our investigation and we will. Just to be clear, it sounds like you support impeaching the president. Do you support impeaching and the senate removing him from office . Mr. Schiff im going to reserve any kind of public judgment on that until i have a chance to consult with my colleagues, with our leadership, and i think this really needs to be a decision that we all make as a body. So im going to continue reserve judgment. As you can tell, i am gravely concerned that if we merely accept this that we invite not only further corruption of our elections by this president , but we also invite it of the next president. So i am keenly aware of the significant of the precedent we set in whatever direction we move. Im also strongly guided by the fact that one of the seminal moments in this scheme took place the day after bob mueller testified, the day after donald trump thought the last investigation was over, he began the next significant step in a ew course of misconduct. Do youn that [inaudible] feel like presenting the strongest possible case here to the Judiciary Committee or would the case be stronger if you had more time to do the investigation . Mr. Schiff i want to say a couple of things, first of all, we continue to investigate whether this scheme began earlier than expected, whether the scheme also involved the last president of ukraine. But look, we have provided overwhelming evidence in this report of a scheme to pressure the current president of ukraine to conduct these political investigations. Will it move others if were able to show that this was not the first time, this was the second time . I think what we have produced in remarkable short order is so overwhelming it ought to be presented to the Judiciary Committee now without any further delay. If we do uncover additional evidence and we do learn more every day, we will feel free to file supplemental reports to the Judiciary Committee, but there is, i think, grave risk to the country with waiting until we have every last fact. When we already know enough about the president s misconduct to make a responsibility judgment about whether we think thats compatible with the office of the presidency. Do the phone records cast doubt on anything youve heard from witnesses or anything the president has said publicly . Mr. Schiff no, they dont. At least, that i can identify at this moment. I think the phone records are remarkably consistent with the coordination of a lot of this scheme. Now, we obviously dont have complete phone records and some of the phone records are deeply suggestive of who the parties were talking to, particularly in the white house or office of management and budget. But because of the president s effort to stonewall investigation, including not turn over their own phone records, not only to us but witnesses like sondland who asked for them, we dont have all the answers. But we do know this without any doubt. And that is, the president of the United States solicited foreign interference in our election, and used the power of his office, the power to convene a meeting in the oval office, the power to provide or withhold hundreds of millions of dollars of aid to an ally at war, to get his political dirty work done. The only question is how much more, how more extensive was the scheme, how many others may have been involved, what was the full knowledge and participation of other parties . While we intend to get answers to those questions and let the American People know the full facts, we do not intend to delay when the integrity of the next election is still at risk. Last question. Mr. Chairman, your report mentioned call records involving Ranking Member nunes. Did you speak to him or inquire about those with his office . Do you believe he should recuse himself later today on this vote in and do you and your staff plan to present this report to the Judiciary Committee . Mr. Schiff the rules provided by the Judiciary Committee provide that our staff counsel will present the report to the committee so thats thats what we expect to take place. In terms of Ranking Member, it wont surprise you, im going to reserve comment. It is, i think, deeply concerning that at a time when the president of the United States was using the power of his office to dig up dirt on a political rival, that there may be evidence that there were members of Congress Complicit in that activity. Now, theres a lot more to learn about that and i dont want to state that that is an unequivocal fact but the allegations are deeply concerning. Our focus is on the president s conduct first and foremost. It may be the role of others to evaluate the conduct of members of congress. Thank you very much. You can read the House Intelligence Committee impeachment inquiry report on President Trump and ukraine online at our website, cspan. Org, impeachment. It will serve as the foundation for debate over whether the 45th president should be removed from office. And the 300page report, Intelligence Committee democrats will be used by democrats on the Judiciary Committee to write possible articles of impeachment. Again thats at cspan. Org impeachment. The house impeachment inquiry hearings continue this week on cspan. Today, the House Intelligence Committee will vote in a closed door stotion send their findings on President Trump to the house Judiciary Committee. Then on wednesday, live at 10 00 a. M. Eastern, the house Judiciary Committee, led by chair jerrold nadler, will hold a public inquirly hearing on the constitutional grounds for president ial impeachment and will hear testimony from law professors. Law feldman of yale chool, michael gearhart, and Michael Turley of United States<\/a> to coerce an ally, ukraine, that is at war with an adversary, russia, into doing the president s political dirty work. It involves a scheme in which donald trump with held official acts of acts, a white house meeting, as well as hundreds of millions of dollars of needed mill tafere assistance, in order to compel that power to deliver two investigations he believed would assist his reelection campaign. I want to underscore first of all just how important that white house meeting was to ukraine. Ukraine has a new reformer as its president. President zelensky. A meeting with the most important patron of ukraine, the president of the United States<\/a>, in the oval office, carries enormous significance both to the people of ukraine, but as equally important, to russia. That the United States<\/a> has ukraines back in its conflict with a nation which incladed its territory. The military assistance is also absolutely essential. As president zelensky go into corkses negotiations with vladimir putin, the fact that the United States<\/a> is providing substantial military assistance approved on a bipartisan basis by congress is enormously important. The with holding of that aid even for a period of time sends a disastrous message to friend and foe alike that the United States<\/a> does not have the back of its ally. So these were things that ukraine desperately wanted and needed. At the same time there was something President Trump<\/a> desperate hi wanted and believe head needed, and that was an investigation that would damage the rival he feared apparently the most, joe biden, as well as an investigation into a debunked Conspiracy Theory<\/a> that it was ukraine, not russia, that interfered in our last election. That Conspiracy Theory<\/a>, which is often summarized, characterized by the term crowd strike that Conspiracy Theory<\/a> is a russian narrative. That is a Conspiracy Theory<\/a> put out, promulgated, by vladimir putin. To deflect attention away from russias interference in our own elections and to try to drive a wedge between the United States<\/a> and the nation of ukraine. So thats what the president wanted. These two sham investigations. One into joe biden. Also debunked and discredited. That sham investigative theory but also into this idea that ukraine interfered now election, not russia. He was willing to sacrifice the National Security<\/a> of the United States<\/a> by with holding military aid and diplomatic recognition in the form of the white house meeting in order to get what he wanned. That scheme, however, was discovered. Because among other things a courageous person stepped forward and blew the whistle. But also because congress announced it would investigate the matter. Once we dwan our investigation and once it became clear to the president and to the white house that this was going to become public, this scheme was going to become public, only then did the president of the United States<\/a> release the military aid and as for that white house meeting that ukraine so desperately sought that has still not happened to this day. Now, what does this mean for americans . Why should they care about what the president did visavis ukraine . Why should they care about ukraine . First of all, this is not about ukraine. This is about our democracy. This is about our National Security<\/a>. This is about whether the American People<\/a> have a right to expect that the president of the United States<\/a> is going to act in their interests work their security in mind, and not for some ill list personal or political reason. So americans should care deeply about whether the president of the United States<\/a> is betraying their trust in him. Betraying that oath that he took to the constitution to protect our country. And defend its institutions. So we should care about this. We must care about this. And if we dont care about this, we can darn well be assured the president will be back at it, doing this all over again. Because indeed, he already has. First there was the invitation to russia to interfere in our last election, russia, if youre listening, hack hillarys emails, and later that day they tried to do exactly that but then there was the use of this official power to compel another country, ukraine, to interfere in the 2020 election. And even after, even after our investigation began, even after the impeachment inquiry began, there was President Donald Trump<\/a> out on the white house lawn, once again making it abundantly clear that he wanted ukraine to investigate the bidens. And whats more, he wanted other countries to interfere in our election as well. And that china should also investigate the bidens. This is the result of a president who believes he is beyond indictment, beyond impeachment, beyond any form of accountability and indeed above the law. And that is a very dangerous thing for this country. To have an unethical president who believes theyre above the law. The question now is what does congress do about this . One of the other very important elements of our report today which goes beyond the president s misconduct with ukraine goes to the president s obstruction of the congress. Of a coequal branch of government. And i want to underscore also the seriousness of this misconduct. Because the president informed every department for which we sought records, the state department, the office of management and budget which has the records about the with holding of the aid, the defense department, his own white house personnel, to refuse to turn over a single document in answer to congressional subpoenas. The president instructed witnesses not to appear. The president used his office and his bully pulpit to try to intimidate witnesses. If the Congress Allows<\/a> a esident who so fully and blanketly obstructs the work of Congress Even<\/a> involves an impeachment investigation into the president s own misconduct, then we are begging for more of the same. We are signaling to any future president that can engage in whatever corruption, malfeasance or negligence and they are beyond accountability. And to my g. O. P. Colleague, they need to consider that when we have a democratic president , are they willing to say in answer to their oversight that a president may simply refuse . Because if they are and if we do, it will mean that the balance of power between our branches of government will be fundamentally altered and altered for the worse. It will mean that future corruption, malfeasance and incompetence will be far more likely than it is today. The facts here are really not seriously contested. Indeed, the testimony of the witnesses was remarkably consistent. And you might be foregiven having watched the hearings and watched the reaction of the members of the two parties to the testimony of these witnesses if you thought they were two different hearings going on at the same time. This points out another danger that the Founding Fathers<\/a> were all too aware of, an thats is the danger of excessive factionalism. That is that a Political Party<\/a> may become so weded to a president of their own party that theyre unwilling to do their constitutional duty. If oneirmly believe that party relinquishes its responsibility to the constitution and their oath it does not relieve us of our obligation to the same. I hope that every member of the house and the senate, whether these proceedings go forward in the house or they dont, will keep in mind their duty as to the constitution. Not to the person of the president. That ought to be our guiding principal. Finally, i think whats is really us here so aptly summed up in what the president s own chief of staff had to say when he informed the country that yes, indeed, they had with held military aid to get this political investigation. He told us to get over it. To get over it. That is what the president does. We should just get over it. This is essentially what he was saying. That we need to just get used to the idea of a corrupt president and get over it. And so we will have to decide, given that the evidence of this misconduct is so clear and uncontested, are we prepared to just get over it . Are we prepared to say that henceforth we must expect from this president and those that follow that there will be a certain amount of corruption in which the National Security<\/a> of the country will be compromised, in which which the oath of office will mean that much less, in which the belief in the rule of law and the United States<\/a> in the United States<\/a> will be that much less, is that what were simply to get over or get used to . Well, i for one dont think we should get over this i dont think we should get used to this i dont think thats what the founds of the country had in mind. Indeed, i think that when they prescribed a remedy, kind of conduct by a president of the United States<\/a> putting his own personal political interests above the interests of the American People<\/a> was exactly why they prescribed a remedy as extraordinary as the remedy of impeachment. And so we have a very difficult decision ahead of us to make. And i have every can can confidence that the Judiciary Committee<\/a> in consultation with the entire caucus and our leadership will not only receive this report as well as the reports of others and make a proper demmings about what articles of impeachment are warranted. With that im happy to respond to questions. When did you obtain the cell phone records that are in this report . And what cothey tell you that you didnt learn otherwise . Mr. Schiff i cant go into the speves of dates in which we obtained certain evidence or indeed whether we obtained communications from one or multiple parties. But certainly the phone records show that there was considerable coordination among the parties, including the white house. Coordination in the smear ampaign against ambassador yovanovitch which cleared the way for the three amigos to take over the ukraine policy, coordination in execution of that policy and this was indead a continuum that began prior tooth recall of the ambassador. Now your question gets to a very important point which is, there is more investigative work to be done. One of the issues that we are looking into is, did this scheme begin far earlier than we first understood . Was this scheme in fact put in place to try to pressure the last president , por sean coe, and his corrupt prosecutor general into conducting these same investigations . And was that plan put into new il and chaos when this reformer zelensky surged in the polling and ultimately won that presidency . Thats something we continue to investigate. And that is something that these phone records also shed light on. But even as we believe that we cannot wait because the president s efforts to secure intervention in the next election persist, we continue our investigation and we will. Just to be clear, it sounds like you support impeaching the president. Do you support impeaching and the senate removing him from office . Mr. Schiff im going to reserve any kind of public judgment on that until i have a chance to consult with my colleagues, with our leadership, and i think this really needs to be a decision that we all make as a body. So im going to continue reserve judgment. As you can tell, i am gravely concerned that if we merely accept this that we invite not only further corruption of our elections by this president , but we also invite it of the next president. So i am keenly aware of the significant of the precedent we set in whatever direction we move. Im also strongly guided by the fact that one of the seminal moments in this scheme took place the day after bob mueller testified, the day after donald trump thought the last investigation was over, he began the next significant step in a ew course of misconduct. Do youn that [inaudible] feel like presenting the strongest possible case here to the Judiciary Committee<\/a> or would the case be stronger if you had more time to do the investigation . Mr. Schiff i want to say a couple of things, first of all, we continue to investigate whether this scheme began earlier than expected, whether the scheme also involved the last president of ukraine. But look, we have provided overwhelming evidence in this report of a scheme to pressure the current president of ukraine to conduct these political investigations. Will it move others if were able to show that this was not the first time, this was the second time . I think what we have produced in remarkable short order is so overwhelming it ought to be presented to the Judiciary Committee<\/a> now without any further delay. If we do uncover additional evidence and we do learn more every day, we will feel free to file supplemental reports to the Judiciary Committee<\/a>, but there is, i think, grave risk to the country with waiting until we have every last fact. When we already know enough about the president s misconduct to make a responsibility judgment about whether we think thats compatible with the office of the presidency. Do the phone records cast doubt on anything youve heard from witnesses or anything the president has said publicly . Mr. Schiff no, they dont. At least, that i can identify at this moment. I think the phone records are remarkably consistent with the coordination of a lot of this scheme. Now, we obviously dont have complete phone records and some of the phone records are deeply suggestive of who the parties were talking to, particularly in the white house or office of management and budget. But because of the president s effort to stonewall investigation, including not turn over their own phone records, not only to us but witnesses like sondland who asked for them, we dont have all the answers. But we do know this without any doubt. And that is, the president of the United States<\/a> solicited foreign interference in our election, and used the power of his office, the power to convene a meeting in the oval office, the power to provide or withhold hundreds of millions of dollars of aid to an ally at war, to get his political dirty work done. The only question is how much more, how more extensive was the scheme, how many others may have been involved, what was the full knowledge and participation of other parties . While we intend to get answers to those questions and let the American People<\/a> know the full facts, we do not intend to delay when the integrity of the next election is still at risk. Last question. Mr. Chairman, your report mentioned call records involving Ranking Member<\/a> nunes. Did you speak to him or inquire about those with his office . Do you believe he should recuse himself later today on this vote in and do you and your staff plan to present this report to the Judiciary Committee<\/a> . Mr. Schiff the rules provided by the Judiciary Committee<\/a> provide that our staff counsel will present the report to the committee so thats thats what we expect to take place. In terms of Ranking Member<\/a>, it wont surprise you, im going to reserve comment. It is, i think, deeply concerning that at a time when the president of the United States<\/a> was using the power of his office to dig up dirt on a political rival, that there may be evidence that there were members of Congress Complicit<\/a> in that activity. Now, theres a lot more to learn about that and i dont want to state that that is an unequivocal fact but the allegations are deeply concerning. Our focus is on the president s conduct first and foremost. It may be the role of others to evaluate the conduct of members of congress. Thank you very much. You can read the House Intelligence Committee<\/a> impeachment inquiry report on President Trump<\/a> and ukraine online at our website, cspan. Org, impeachment. It will serve as the foundation for debate over whether the 45th president should be removed from office. And the 300page report, Intelligence Committee<\/a> democrats will be used by democrats on the Judiciary Committee<\/a> to write possible articles of impeachment. Again thats at cspan. Org impeachment. The house impeachment inquiry hearings continue this week on cspan. Today, the House Intelligence Committee<\/a> will vote in a closed door stotion send their findings on President Trump<\/a> to the house Judiciary Committee<\/a>. Then on wednesday, live at 10 00 a. M. Eastern, the house Judiciary Committee<\/a>, led by chair jerrold nadler, will hold a public inquirly hearing on the constitutional grounds for president ial impeachment and will hear testimony from law professors. Law feldman of yale chool, michael gearhart, and Michael Turley<\/a> of Georgetown University<\/a> law school. Follow the impeachment inquiry, on tv on cspan3, online at cspan. Org or listen on the free c spand rail yode radio app. Next we again show you House Intelligence Committee<\/a> chair adam schiffs comments on the committees inquiry report. [captions Copyright National<\/a> cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] mr. Schiff good afternoon. 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