Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 07172019 20240714 :

Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 07172019 20240714

Al green talks about his continued efforts to impeach trump. Pierce looks at thee Trump Administrations attempts to restrict who can seek asylum in the u. S. You are seeing, that is the final tally from yesterdays houseboat condemning President Trump over his tweets toward four female members of congress. Between the house and republicans over the speaker using disparaging remarks over the president on the president and one member of congress abandoning his post because of partisan squabbling. Looking at the events of the last few days, some members have called for a cooling of harsh rhetoric and more civility. We will show you what took place yesterday. We want to hear from you in light of recent events, can civility in politics be restored . You can let us know by calling the phone lines. 2027488000 for democrats. 2027488001 for republicans. And 2027488002 for independents. If you want to tweet and use social media, our twitter address is cspanwj and you can post on our Facebook Page at facebook. Com cspan. All of this available to you if you want to go to our website at cspan. Org to see the events of yesterday. This was the wall street journal about the house voting to condemn those comments in a vote yesterday. Michael bender writing it was a handful of republicans who broke with leadership on this. Susan brooks of indiana, brian fitzpatrick, will heard will hurt, and fred upton. Mitch mcconnell offered a mild reprimand of the president and his comments on the matter saying from the president to the speaker to freshman members, all of us have a responsibility to elevate to the public discourse. That was a statement from the speaker. Also from the wall street journal and writing up to some of the events, they say the vote we showed you came at the end of a chaotic afternoon on the house floor in which Nancy Pelosis characterization of mr. Trumps tweets as racist was rules ruled out of order, but kept on the record. You can see all of those and that full accounting of what took place at cspan. Org. Here is nancy pelosi. [video clip] these comments from the white house are disgraceful and disgusting and these comments are racist. How shameful to hear him continue to defend those offensive words. Our caucus will continue to forcibly respond to those attacks on our members, which reflect a fundamental disrespect for the beautiful diversity of america. There is no place anywhere for the president s words, which are not only divisive, but dangerous and legitimized and increased fear and hatred of new americans and people of color. It is so sad because you would think there would be a given that we would universally, in this body, just say of course of course. There is no excuse for any response to those words but a swift and strong unified condemnation. Every member of this union should join us in condemning the president s racist tweets. To do anything less would be a shocking rejection of our values and a shameful abdication of our oath of office to protect the American People. If she would like to rephase rephrase comment. I make a point of order the words are to be taken down. The chair will remind all members please, please do not personality based comments. The gentleman from georgia is recognized. I make in order that comments are not parliamentarian and to be taken down. Host the backandforth leading up to this, but we will show you what you heard from Emanuel Cleaver, the action he took when he was he saw what was going on. This idea of civility in politics, can it be restored to the political process . 2027488000 for democrats. 2027488001 for republicans. And 2027488002. If you want to tweet us, you can do so cspanwj and if you want to post on our Facebook Page if you go to the page now, there is a poll. It is not scientific, a simple yesno poll. You can make your comments, about 500 of you doing so before the start of the show. You saw what happened in the backandforth between Speaker Pelosi and doug collins. You saw Emanuel Cleaver presiding over the matter. Later in the process of doing so, he decides to make the unusual move of abandoning the chair. Here is the lead up to that. [video clip] i tried to do this in a fair way. I kept warning both sides. Whereul had a situation on another motion to take down the words of a friend of mine and we never want to pass up an opportunity to escalate. That is what this is. I dare anybody to look at the footage and see if there was any unfairness. Unfairness is not enough, but we want to just fight. Abandon the chair also takingvent place yesterday. You can see that at cspan and to the words of representative cleaver, that is our idea for the first hour. Eric in maryland, you are up first on our independent line. Go ahead. Host good morning caller good morning, pedro and good morning, america. I am an immigrant. I came in this country and i work hard. The comment was really offensive, especially given his history because his grandparents germany. To answer your question about can we bring back civility in politics what really scares me is the democrat on the left are as dangerous they are just more polite. The socialism agenda is also scaring me. I dont even know how i am going to vote in 2020. Of civility in politics, in a simple way, do you think it could be restored . Caller it would be difficult. I still believe joe biden might be a voice of reason because he is a guy that is really liked on both sides. Host lets go to jerry in detroit. Hello. , pedro. Good morning greetings from motown, the hometown of my represented of and a member of the squad, rashida tlaib. Restoredivility can be and i think it can be when we finally get a president who behaves better than this one and remark. Like to make a especially people on the republican line get offended at being called a racist. If they dont like being called that, how can they think that way . Notou hate anyone who is white, you hate anyone who is not white. I think President Trump emboldened these people. Of civility,idea it strictly resides with who is in the highest office of the land . Caller i think so because donald trump has a track record of making a lot of racially insensitive comments. If you recall the trashing of andblack Football Players charlottesville, that sort of thing. Like i said, he has been emboldening some of these racist, white republicans, some of whom will no doubt be talking smack about me afterwards. Host steve on the republican line. Caller i will try not to be too longwinded today. Both parties are playing to this. They are trying to attract a moderate voter like myself and we are not paying attention to any of this. We are sitting on the sideline and ignoring it. Host why take a stance of ignoring it . Why do you say that . Caller look what happened to joe biden. About comes up and asks auestion on busing kamal comes up and asks a question about busing. They were busing the students, why not bus the teachers . As attorney, she was not that great. There is a couple of things if you look at her record out here nuclearly with the where we tried to move storage lets gonvolved to sandra in alabama. Caller hello. Totallythose people are out of order. The president said i want you to go back to your country, come you dod let me know how this. I think they were very respas disrespectful to the highest office in the land. I think they need to be taken out themselves and teach. Civility be restored given what you have seen the last few days . Caller if some of those house members will give and try not to wear their feelings on their sleeves, i am sure the republicans and the president will give them respect if they give him respect. Omar is omar ilhan the head of this and i know she has lied to congress herself. She was married to her brother host we will leave it there. This idea of civility in politics, if it can be restored. Because of the instances of the last couple days, you can call for democrats. 0 republicans, 2027488001. And independents, 2027488002. Joins us on the phone, he is there editor in chief. Good morning morning and could theput it into perspective way you covered the house over the years . Caller i would say it has almost become tiresome and. Liche level. Taken it to a new in the capital yesterday, we the tookess the congress the anger and vitriol up a new notch. I have never seen a presiding thecer relinquish the chair way mr. Cleaver did. I have never heard a speaker of the house accuse a president of the United States of being seen aand i have never republican try to have the speaker ruled out of order and shut down the rest of the day. That was the first time that happened since i got to start winring congress in 1985. Ip oneill was the speaker that i would mark as really one of the opening bells of this decline in civility and discourse at the capital when the speaker became so frustrated with Newt Gingrich he hurled insults at him and his words were taken down. Host can you go through what the rules say when it comes to parliamentary procedure about what you can say and what some found wrong with Nancy Pelosis statements . Guest the rules are quite explicitly clear and the rules about what is within bounds and out of bounds in terms of decorum and rhetoric on the house floor are written down in a book that is called jeffersons manual. Book ofn outgrowth parliamentary procedure written back in the earliest days of the republic. The rules we are talking about now were not enumerated by jefferson. There has been talk on social media, why are we abandoning a rulebook written a couple centuries ago written by somebody who was a slaveholder . These rules are called jeffersons manual, but they are an enumeration of the precedents set in congress over 200 years and on page 190, it says references to racial or other discrimination on the part of the president are not in order. Remarks may not refer to the president as a racist and it goes on to say or to him having made a bigoted or racist statement. Precedentsdents and notes are as recent as five years ago. It was clear mrs. Pelosis comments were out of line in that context and that is why eventually mr. Hoyer the democrats then did a clever thing, which whoever is in the majority would have done such a thing, to acknowledge she was out of order by the rules, but essentially say lets use our majority muscle to let her set a different precedent. Host you heard the chair use the term engaging in personalities, what does that mean . Caller guest that was one of the rules, one of the sort of bedrock rules on decorum on the house floor is that you are not supposed to be talking about the personal traits personal characteristics of the people you are talking about, you are supposed to be confining your speech to policy and what may have been said or not said, but not to get into personal characteristics. Beganas what mr. Collins with when he asked mrs. Pelosis words be stricken. The two punishments are supposed to be the speech is excised from the proceedings and the person who said the offensive thing is supposed to be habited from saying anything on the house floor for the rest of the debate on that topic. Engaging in personalities was part of it, but there is an even more explicit prohibition on what you can and cannot say about the president. Host you heard our guest on the phone reference tip oneill. There is a tweet from tip oneill showing the backandforth leading up to what our guest was talking about. When it comes to abandoning the post of monitoring or watching over the house, have you seen that before . Caller i absolutely have not. Mr. Cleaver was put in that position. Not everybody gets to preside over the house, only members of the Majority Party preside over the house. Pitchingittle bit like staff on a baseball team, there are per certain people called on to do certain jobs and mr. Cleaver is one of the presiding officers who gets called on to preside at certain highly emotional and fraught times and to see him, of all people, walk minister. An ordained he is known to be personally passionate, but to be somebody to can get the two sides cool their rhetoric and see him be frustrated is interesting. I have seen presiding officers need to leave the room to take a phone call or need to leave the room to take a bathroom break, but never seen them walk off in frustration. Host when it comes to this idea of civility, can that be restored when you have the big events like the one we are seeing play out over the last day . Guest it will be tough and maybe you already mentioned this as we look into today, but it will not get any easier. The houses moving on right away to have votes to hold the attorney general and secretary of commerce in contempt of congress and there will be another test vote on a call for impeachment number which is a resolution and the democratic leadership will argo argue against, but it will happen. There will be other topics on the house floor that produce similarly incendiary rhetoric. If i may sort of offer that i the lastg back time we had a period with a civility reset was after september 11. It takes something that dramatic and calvin isaac galvanizing to get people to put their vitriolic talking points away and come together for the good of the country are it i hope it will not take a similarly moment like hurtful that to galvanize the country again. Host david hawking, you can ulcrum. Us. Ork at thef congress votet of that will take place today around noon. Bob greene will join us later in the program. To the idea of civility in congress, we are getting your take on it. 2027488000 for democrats. 2027488001 for republicans. Nd independents, 2027488002 from louisiana, jean is next. Caller good morning, pedro. Thisavent we had discourse with any other president . Number 45 thinks he can say anything and it will be unchecked. Have civil discourse restored unless, lets be truthful, as long as number 45 as our leader who has no morals and is a racist and a bigot, who has no integrity is a pathological liar. We have not had this kind of discourse before. Number 45 instigates all of this. He throws a rock and hides his head. We need to get rid of him. Vote blue. Host lets hear from don in tennessee, independent line. You are next. Caller i am wondering if that lady in louisiana came up with those ideas all on her own. Why dont we fundamentally change america and put a moratorium on the house and the senate . Give them a two year unpaid vacation. The president make a proposal and tell the nation okay on such and such a day, everybody use your phones and call in yea or nay. Lets prove we dont need these people. Host how does that change the idea of civility in politics . Caller just prove to them we do not really need them, just vote on an idea straight up, the American Public calling in. Host tony in texas, republican line, hello. Caller on the first day of this new congress, you were hosting and the question of the day was instructions we have for the new congress. I happen to be one of those collars and on that day, the first thing i said was to take a look at the mirror before you start speaking and the other one of those things i did say that day is before you accuse when i say you, i am not talking about you, i am talking about congress and when they say before you accuse anyone of roles. G, reverse all the yesterday we heard i believe it was john yesterday and he played a clip of the four congresswomen in their statement about the president and what had happened. If you would go back or everyone go back to the transcript of that and every time they use a racial term like black or white by the way, the phrase, people of color, i find that to be racially offensive because black, white, brown, whatever, we are all of color. Host all of this leading up to the idea of civility in politics . Caller exactly. If we go back to the transcripts when they had those racist terms and reverse it and every time they say black, reverse with white. And then rethink what they are saying. Sameay realize there is a tone of racism going on. For all of us, we need to stop and think that way. Host democrats line, hi. Caller good morning. I am a naturalized american citizen professor and i see civility has to be restored. However, that could only happen for years to come. Has unraveled and untapped is a way of ah third of the population feeling they are the landlord and two thirds are only the tenants. Government media education in order to restore civility, equal opportunity and equal treatment under the law for all americans regardless. That is something that is aspirational and is not going to happen overnight. Host james from seattle, washington, independent line. Caller hello. How are you doing today . Host fine, thank you. Caller we cannot get civility in politics until we get a politician instead of an independent entrepreneur businessman trying to run his country for his own avenues and not considering he is the president of the people. Had severale president s before, are you saying more civility took place under their tenure . Caller i am not saying more civility, but we at least have politicians that will serve as politicians. Civility cannot be restored as long as trump is in there not acting as a politician. Host from paul in roanoke, virginia, on the topic of civility in politics. You are next up, republican line. Stop. both sides need to this is getting ridiculous. I have been hearing it from both sides. Mainly democrats have been doing this for years. If they dont agree with what your opinion is, they call you a racist or sexist, whatever. It has been going since the Obama Administration and even before that. Every time they were in the campaign, they called republicans a racist. We have to stop this and if we cannot debate each other, we should not be calling each other names. Host do you think the current president plays a role in the current level of civility going on . Caller he should not have said what he said the other day, i agree that. Too. Have been saying it, this has got to stop. Host that is paul in virginia. The Washington Times editorial takes a look at civility. In their last paragraph reads the president scolded the squad, as is his custom and some republicans called him over the line for telling the ladies to go home. They replied they are home, american citizens all, but the squad have spent years practicing insult of mr. Trump, accusing him of racism and they are getting what they asked for. We live in angry times. It was yesterday the Senate Majority leader took before cameras and spoke to reporters. He was asked about the current level of political discourse and rhetoric and had this to say. [video clip] there has been a lot of discussion about the events over the last couple days, so i w

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