Not last of there is no funding for government. But they have carved out certain exemptions and exceptions for employees that continue to work. Law andbased on an old a memo from the Carter Administration lays out who can work and who cant. Funds come from annualother than appropriations. If they are fee funded, they can work. Host whats an example . Example, some operations of customs officers are funded by fees because you pay a fee every time you fly on an airplane. To paying that persons, certain persons salaries or checking passports. Those employees, you pay a fee to get your passport renewed and that helps pay the salary of the employees who process those. There are also exceptions for employees who work to protect life or property, basically how they call it. Anyone working national security, defense department, homeland security, Justice Department are also working protecting property the government owns. Its part of that exception. Host how many federal employees are furloughed today . Guest the administration is taking a new approach to this. Agencyng to the guidelines on who would be furloughed, there was about 850,000 or so. Found fundss have to stay open longer like the epa , the energy department, they are staying open at least for the first few days of the shut down based on leftover funds not are putting toward implementing the shut down immediately. Host do some agencies create a Rainy Day Fund . Guest sort of but its breakup located. But its pretty located. Agencies of not done before to this extent. Toldbama administration the agencies to use their on obligated funds as they could but we are seeing more maneuvering between accounts and things like that to stay open. When Congress Appropriates funds, sometimes the those dont have a time limit. If there is left over balances there, they can take that and use it to stay open. The epa and some of the other agencies i mentioned have decided they have enough to do that for a few days or weeks. Becamehe National Parks a symbol of the shut down back in 2013, the signs in front of the world war ii memorial and on the national mall. We are not seeing as much of that this time. Is there a strategic reason to make that happen . Guest the white house has said the Obama Administration tried to weaponize the shutdown and make it so it was in as impactful as possible for political purposes. Obama Administration Official to my that was the case but thats what they are saying. They are trying to do the opposite of that and make it so agencies are staying open as make theossible to impact of small as possible. The National Park service is still furloughing over 80 of the workforce. Host they are putting their signs on the national mall. Some there are still signs but when i was reading it, it said you can still do your camping overnight but we might not have the personnel we usually do, some of the facilities might be close like that to rooms because they dont have the people there to service them. They are trying to keep the open air memorials and monuments and parks open as much as they can and closing off certain parts that it would not be safe to go on with someone there with someone not there to help you. Host a republican has a tweet from yesterday you can see he put together a composite richer during the 2013 shutdown, what it looks like near the Lincoln Memorial from the world war ii memorial and the same shot from the current shutdown. We are taking your calls this morning as we talked to eric katz, the Senior Correspondent from government executive. We want to hear from you and hear your questions about this shutdown. As folks are calling in, will federal employees get back pay for however long this lasts . Guest most likely, most of them automatically will, roughly 60 of the federal workforce will still be working throughout the day even though the government will shutdown and all military personnel are still on active duty and working. They are not getting their paycheck that they would normally get but they are guaranteed to begetting backpay wants the government reopens. The rest of the workforce who , they aresent home not guaranteed to get back pay but historically in 2013 and in the 90s during the clinton , congress voted retroactively to grant federal employees back pay. There are already bills in the congress to do that again. Host we promise to keep you updated about President Trump tweets this morning your phone calls with eric katz of government executive, jim is up first from wake forest, north carolina, good morning. Ask,r i just want to congress can still override the president s veto. Everybody is calling each other names and blaming them, they can just override the veto and make it law. Im looking at how the congresspeople will still be getting paid, why cant they do that for the military and why not stop their own pay . Military notd the getting their paychecks like will see if that gets impacted but they are guaranteed back pay. Members of congress will be getting paid. Thats the way the law works. Host why is that . Guest thats just the way it works. Working through the shutdown. Many lawmakers have already come out to say as long as there is a shutdown, im not going to take my salary, i will donated to charity or Something Like that. We saw that a lot in 2013 as well. About the question president the congress overriding the president ial veto. We get to that stage, we can cross that bridge. We willll happen see what happens on an effective vote at noon about the continuing resolution and senate is expected in at 10 00 and then a boat is expected. The house is in at noon today as well. There will be plenty of action on capitol hill and we will keep you updated on all of this. We go to fredericksburg, pennsylvania, a federal worker, good morning. Caller good morning. My concern is for the military. Im a retired air Traffic Controller and was not furloughed but i was essential personnel. Father wasitary, my and soan of world war ii was my fatherinlaw and my grandfather fought in world war ii and im a veteran of the via numb. My son is in the garden. This fight is for the citizens of the United States and the argument is not for the citizens of the United States. They are on a legal status. Thank you. Host tillman has a question on twitter do you have a number . We see around 60 of the workforce still working throughout shutdown, 40 furloughed. Thats the number of employees working but as far as services, it might be a different breakdown. The workforce is tilted disproportionately toward Veterans Affairs and providing health care for veterans and the defense department, homeland arerity and those agencies way more functioning that some of the other agencies. Host you said some agencies have found money to function, how long can they last . We will see after a week, more agencies going to the normal shutdown procedures if we make it that long. The epa said they have about a week. We will see how long they can stretch out those dollars. Host are federal workers allowed to work from home during the shutdown . Guest no, if they are furloughed, they are legally required to not work. Otherwise, they would be violating unpaid volunteer laws that apply to the federal workforce. If you are furloughed, you are to look at your government device or check your email and not allowed to answer calls from coworkers or anything like that. You have to be sitting there, not working. Host how is that working out for stephen in missouri. . Worker, 37 years, my experience and i have been through many shutdowns, we always got back pay. Im not saying we will get that now. I have no idea. It does harm are the newer type federal employees. They get very apprehensive. They are young and starting families. The older guys, the older ladies , we have been through it and we try to calm them down. I want to make another point about not working. The gentleman makes a very good point. We were told you will not work at home. Needless to say, many others did. A two orame back after three week shutdown, it was utter chaos to be able to serve the public and get caught up. The gentleman makes an excellent point. We were told specifically that you will not work from home. Needless to say, some of us did, thank you. He raises a good point about coming back from a shutdown, there has been studies as to how much money has been wasted during this time and how work piles up. Arraye this across a wide of government offices that get backlog because of the way the work had to stop during a shutdown. Federal employees get worried retirementssing new , that all stops. Backlog piles up during a shutdown. He said that employees were trying to do some work from home. They are not supposed to during a shutdown. For the most part, a lot of that stuff is getting backlog. Mentioned retirement benefits. To current federal retirees see any impact by the shutdown . Guest i believe they will still get their benefits. There is a carve out in shutdown procedures where earned benefits still get paid out like social security. They should be ok. Red bluff,t is in california, a republican. Go ahead. Caller my daughter is in the military. Shes not getting paid. That is ridiculous. This has to do with the democrats. Number two, you have allowed a your phone and call and ifnt trump a nazi somebody were to call obama Something Like that, you would have every democrat on the phone calling for you to be fired. I will get a hold of cspan and tell them that i want all the and havens to call in you fired. That is ridiculous to allow that. That is an american. Thank you, goodbye. Brenda is in manchester, washington, federal employee and also a democrat, go ahead. I wanted tohere, talk more about the cr. Shutdowns arethat never good. They should not happen and i feel bad for everybody affected. S not about mike has been its not about my husbands current position but he to run the Business Office for the Pacific Carrier fleet. They were the only ones who can authorize any expenditures toward the carriers for the big huge projects. This is a nightmare. Its really hard on them to constantly continue to work on these continuing resolutions. I dont want to say that i approve of the shutdown my husband certainly does not. Not said it, thats why the republican senators were voting against the cr because they are tired of them. Thats what needs to get worked out in washington. Give them a budget. , i honestly think the republicans wanted the shutdown. And repealingorm aca, they are working with the senate to see what they can pass. You cannot pass the reconciliation on a budget. They knew this would not pass. Up because they wanted to see if the democrats would hold their ground or shut down the government. Trump is not getting involved is a big deal maker. I would challenge who really wanted the shutdown. I challenge anybody to show me what democrat was ever a proponent of a shutdown. They have made remarks in the but only republicans have been against government. Host you mentioned that President Trumps involvement, here is a tweet from him just now we will keep watching thattwas it the president s twitter page. Can you walk us through how the continuing resolution impacts the employees question mark guest . Guest a lot of the attention has focused on the immigration side of things. The democrats i have spoken with on the hill have said the real reason they are ok with this is they want a full year appropriation budget and dont want to keep doing the cr. It hurts their ability to plan longterm, to start new projects, to cancel old projects that are not working anymore. Host explain that. Guest the way the appropriations process works is when there is a new full year appropriation, lawmakers go through line by line at every agency and say you have this amount of money to do these things. They spell out exactly what projects they can work on and sometimes what they cant. In a cr, none of that happens. It just says keep doing what youre doing at the same level. There is no specificity and there is no new planning or anything along those lines. Kansas, anrado, independent, go ahead. Go ahead. About hi, i dont care daca and the wall. I want to know what else is in the bill. Where will the money go and how much money is going to be spent . Why cant we talk about that . Host which bill are you referring to . They are trying to pass to bring the government back. Host walk us through the threeweek continuing resolution. Guest it would go toward everything. This is what funds the government across the entire scope of what government does. The latest proposal would last three weeks. It would keep spending at what agencies were doing in 2017. It would keep those levels consistent for the next few weeks. It would carry us forward into and then we would have to go through it all again. Louisiana, line for republicans, go ahead. Observation, i was 28 Years Air Force and spent nine years as a federal Civil Service employee. I have a little knowledge of whats going on. That the United States active duty military must report for duty but they will not get their paycheck. Eventually, i understand, they will get their paycheck. The federal Civil Service employee be treated the same way . They are being furloughed which means they dont come to work but they will eventually get their same paycheck. That vacation when i was working. I cannot understand why if something is good for the united but notilitary to work get paid while they are working but eventually get paid, why cant the same thing apply . The guestmment by about its about the budget, its not about the budget. If it was about the budget, it would not have the dream act stuff in this legislation. I cannot buy that argument. Guest a couple of thoughts on that the democrats tried to put forward after the Government Shutdown a bill to ensure the military personnel get paid on time on a normal schedule. Congress did that in 2013 when the Government Shutdown 20 sure that no paychecks were delayed for military. Mitch mcconnell blocked that measure. I think they dont want to make this dreck out longer by taking away the pain of a shutdown. Keep trying to ensure there are no delayed paychecks for the military. As far as the Civil Service, they also are guaranteed back pay if they are working. They have toot, wait and see what happens. Some have called it a paid vacation since they usually get back pay. Federal employees would take issue with that because they have uncertainty and bills to pay and they dont want to wait a couple of weeks until they get paid. Can you talk about what the federal employee unions are doing right now and what they are asking for . Guest they obviously want to end the shutdown. This is a breadandbutter issue for what they stand for. Federal employees to essential work, not just ones working today are sometimes called essential employees. They are saying the should not be allowed to happen. Against thebying shutdown and there were number one issue is insuring back pay like we were discussing. They are also trying to educate thepublic that these are kinds of services that are not happening when the Government Shutdown. You might not notice it on day one but people are feeling the pain and its not just National Parks. Host tell us about the United States postal service. Here is a tweet guest agencies that are , they receive no appropriations from congress. They are funded through selling stamps and other mail services. They stay open in a shutdown and have money to operate. They dont rely on congress to give them their funding. They continue to deliver. Federalbecca is a employee in goshen, indiana, good morning. Caller yes, i am a disabled that. I was of that. Vet. 2013 shutdown and as a disabled vet i am heartbroken looking at the civilian side through the 2013 shutdown, i never saw that pay. , istatus today over 20 years requested to go on leave because i see this on a daily basis. I am a republican and proud of it and i work with people in a large city who i know are publicly very much the other way. I have to go in now and ask for my pay, and asked her five days, because it was suddenly andended for me personally i wont go into the details. I have that little added thing that i will have to go through to get my pay. What i have seen is the unions are doing nothing. That might be in my particular area but they basically sit in liberal circles, i dont want to get into the politics, but i am affected daily by this. At this point, i am forced to sit under the same people that did it last week knowing that i will now have to have more days of my pay too big for. Im a disabled veteran on the heartbroken for my country and the people on active duty who are forced to go through all of this. Host thanks for sharing your story. Guest im not sure about her but theparticular interesting point she mentioned is that federal employees who are furloughed are not allowed to take leave in order to continue to get paid. Anyone who has their regular annual vacation or sick leave, that is canceled and you are in furlough and not paid. Host any estimates as to how much the shutdown is costing per day . Guest i have seen some that put it as much as a couple of billion dollars a day. From the estimates that came out after the last shutdown, 20 or 30 billion impact on the economy. That was the author that was the 2013 shutdown. It had a substantial impact and maybe slowed the decimated the slowing economy affected that. Host alexandria, virginia, john is a democrat, good morning. Caller i thought the buck stopped with the president but he is apparently not involved in all in this entire thing. I would encourage every single last person who gets their check from a Trump Company to go on strike right now until the government opens backup. Thank you. Host any thoughts on that . As far as President Trump getting involved, there have actually been several republicans in the senate and in congress who have said