Transcripts For CSPAN Profile Interview - Kellyanne Conway 20171209

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>> kellyanne conway, nearly a year into your job at the white house, what has been the biggest learning curve for you? >> the biggest learning curve has been transitioning from the private sector to public service. i always admired those who entered public service but never envisioned myself going that route, and so to recognize that you now have the responsibility and the gravity of performing and speaking sometimes on behalf of the president and to the nation on behalf of the nation is a responsibility i take very seriously. seriously. i think it is that particular recognition. also to recognize all the different rules and regulations that apply to once government service at this level. they seem to be, there are many in number and we in the trump administration as part of the commitment to transparency and accountability have gone farther than other administrations in terms of committing ourselves to ethics and other regulatory measures. ware of those it takes a constant to be very aware of those it takes a constant vigilance. >> when you walked through the gates on january 20, president trump is our 45th president, what we thinking? >> what an incredible privilege incredible privilege and blessing it is to be part of that. even one small molecule at a something for being raised to modestly. i hope it inspires of the people to work hard and dream big. and be a little lucky along the way as well. incredible -- incredibly enormous tasks in front of us, people were saying that was the campaign promise or something he said out on the trail so he feels a gas to do it. -- he feels he has to do it. even after obamacare, keeping the country more safe and are -- thoseose are not campaign promises, those are moral imperatives and you see the task that this president has inherited and you realize there is a certain hilton not working around the clock or never sleeping. you want to get some a to done and in our case you want to go it trump speed, not swamp speed which is a completely different case. per pacittiis to be intellectually and physically and constantly thinking about the next big thing to execute on. donald trump as a successful businessman of decades functions much the way he does as president which is he wants many different ideas and inputs and individuals and issues to be brought to him on a constant basis. he is someone who has the country sees now for themselves, requires very little sleep, is filled with energy and ideas and he is accustomed to doing things in a way that there is product and deliverable and constant motion. i am not sure, i am sure that washington is not accustomed to that. business inertia is a powerful physical force unless met by friction and he is the friction. he wants us all to move forward more expeditiously and a compass many things and you saw at the beginning a number of different executive actions being taken because those were measures that president trump could implement immediately through his pen. thehaving to wait for legislative process. when he had an opportunity to do that whether it is a hundred regulations being eliminated or rolled back because they were overwrought or unfair to -- than he did that immediately. he was trying to renegotiate teacher trade deals. tpc andking us out of yet he is getting us into keystone and dakota access pipeline. these are in the first one or two weeks in office. that set the tone and the content for the type of president he would like to be. he would have liked to have been in the first year and he has been. you see the way the stock market, the consumer confidence, the and employment numbers, the small business formation numbers, the national manufacturing numbers, all these robust leading indicators of the prosperity this president has brought to our nation. just in the first year. it does not was get covered enough and does not get covered fully or fairly, but the people say it. i travel weekly for this administration and i am not in ofnt of sanitized audiences supporters. i have no idea if they vetted -- voted or if they did and i do much -- do not much care. they say people -- people say keep pushing. even those who did not vote or for him say they are rooting for their country because that is the way they were raised and that what they always do. >> he is critical of his critics both democratic and republican. is that the new norm when he bob corkersenator and senator mccain? >> he has good relationships at different times. i would say i know other administrations will disagree because there's a complaint of different administrations. you would be hard-pressed to quantitatively find a criticized public figure in the last however many years. the way that the office is described by some people, particularly those whose job is to cover it. it is regrettable. [indiscernible] mission with that person and isice because that person the leader of the free world, the commander-in-chief, those brave men and women are making sacrifices every single day that i can hardly fathom. i know enough about to respect enormously. i believe we owe the men and women in uniform, those who are gratitude.ebt of it is not easy to repay. so when i think about all of , it seems aore of a this constant tug-of-war. there are many responsible journalists out there, reporters out there and outlets that are trying to get the story. there are many more who are trying to get the president and do not seem interested in getting the story. >> who is getting it right >> -- who is getting it right? >> a few people. i will tell you whether secret's. they have taken the time and the patience and the care to get to know this president and his decision-making process and why the cabinet that he has. they have demonstrated their leadership skills on their own. we have amazing success stories in our departments and agencies. to always get fair and full coverage by making an impact in people's everyday lives would be -- what the epa has been able to do, certainly the va. 24 hourveterans of the phone service. they had that whistleblower and protection act and the accountability act and the choice act allows our veterans privateor quality and and timely care. if they cannot achieve that which most veterans say they can both those who cannot, the president has always said we do not take care of our veterans who are we as a nation? he said he made the issue bigger than just one piece of a veterans agenda and give us a call to action saying who are we as a nation? what our teams have been able to in retreat ifisis not full on defeat and i can go on. the small business administration and dhs at the voter -- border. that alone is the market leadership, someone who pulls together very respectable men and women who have had previous careers in public and private service who are willing to serve this president and this nation at this time. and do it effectively. it is easy to accentuate the negative. we are at a time in our culture where it is easy to complain and cheap and easy to be a naysayer .nd a critic moreose to be a little bit sunshine and light and think about things more positively and take the full measure of everyone so that if you are going to focus on one person, one error or transgression or in the case of anyone one tweet or one article or when statement or one piece of legislation you're not looking at the full measure of the individual or the issue. ofhington is a city institutions, not of individuals. that is a recognition of fact that not everyone ends up appreciating. you have to subvert your ego to the greater good. i'm not here to read about myself, i am not here to think about myself, i hear for something so much bigger. that is a lesson that a lot of folks can understand. i have said publicly and privately that there are two -- you need to get with the program and get in or get out. it does not mean being blindly loyal and marching in lockstep and never disagreeing. it means the opposite. the -- fundamentally he invites and accept and expects this agreement and dissension and the diversity of viewpoints of backgrounds. on nearly every issue. i -- if you cannot feel free to disagree respectfully or two dissent or two given alternate point of view to something, you should not be here. you should get out of that job. great to work in a place at this time in my gosh in this great nation's history for man, a man, to men, the president and vice president who appreciate the value of other people. anecdotallyting it or from their senior advisers. heppreciate the fact that surrounds himself with folks who are not afraid to say no. who are not always saying yes and who respect them enough as the people who are elected to make the ultimate decision. >> let me follow on the media and i want to talk about you. who is in you right, where do you go for information? tot do you read if you want get a sense of what is happening? >> i read it all. it is regrettable that so much of the country is curating information to reinforce their own point of view. it seems to me that much of our programming is geared that way. thank out for c-span which is not geared that way. they become curated to appease the oz -- audience that already exist and you can see that with thechiron's that exist, screaming headlines. you will see something that is going on, it is flatly false, it is not true. if you go to the source, someone familiar or someone close to the white house, i think maybe they made the -- mean the coffee shop across the street. with -- thatttable people with more information sources we have, the less people become reliant on information -- its where they go and did not happen overnight. now that we have, there is information overload, many americans suffer from information under load. the idea will cover whether tax reform will pass before they tell you what is in the bill. to cover the story. they want to tell you who is up and down in the white house rather than the stock market is up in the employment -- on a claimant rate is down. which is something people care about. where people stand on the issues and on this president has an awful lot to do with where they are sitting and the beliefs they have brought to bear. i feel like the 2016 election was a major inflection point and a major embarrassing episode for many people in the mainstream media. none of them lost their jobs. their leasing -- they are losing them now for different reasons. there is an cover. if everybody was wrong but nobody lost their jobs, they skated to her, we will keep covering this man as president and a candidate. -- there are a few great white house reporters especially in print. who take the time to ask the question and do not fall into what i refer to as the culture of sameness. there is a shame in being the same. if everybody is writing the same story and has the same headlines, everyone is leading the same cast with the same people and pundits, the same screaming headlines. if you set it for five straight days 20 47 but secondly it is coverage that is incomplete, you are missing out on so many great stories that can be told. the first and foremost responsibly of the media which i always think we need a free and fair media and i'm a big believer in the first amendment. with that role comes a great responsibility. to get it right and get the full story. not just part of it. the first responsibility to connect -- is to connect america with information. to be critical and tough and skeptical but not negative as it has been. for every story that has been covered about individuals or palace intrigue, you're missing the opportunity to tell america what happened and how it affects them. title, counselor to the president, what are your duties and responsibilities? >> i remember when i told the president elect that i had decided to come into the administration because i have not made that decision for six or seven weeks and i will review why that was. my four children were and four crappybe ages, 14, 13, 9, and eight. addition to my children, i was staring at a goal -- gold line of money. that was attractive. why wouldn't it be? thatther reason is i felt professionally speaking my greatest assets would be as an outside adviser, to counsel him from the outside and make sure system,he surroundsound this political operation and policy operation where we would have constant ads and grassroots support and informing the public about repairing and replacing obamacare, renegotiating trade agreements, about energy prosperity and infrastructure in tax cuts and the like. i felt like we needed to continue that for the president and his administration. also the president said what would you like to do and he no to press secretary and commerce director. ford worked in policy decades before i moved to new york and i love policy. i wanted a policy portfolio. i would like to give support to your major initiatives, obamacare, tax cuts, anything having to do with infrastructure, pro-life. he is an amazing pro-life president. he has been a very effective pro-life president in his first year. in specificortfolio areas. 64,000 americans dying just last year up from 52,000 a year before. military spouse employment, those are the two i highlight. areas that i consider to be nonpartisan issues in search of bipartisan solutions. if you are a democrat and you are watching this interview, why not, on board with what we are trained to do to break the back of the opioid crisis, when not tell the people in your state i am joining with the president and with his chief advisers to bring relief to my state, so suffer,ilies no longer folks no longer descend into addiction. so many americans are afraid, they feel ashamed to come and say i have a problem or my friend ordered my child has a problem and we are losing people unnecessarily to drug addiction, to misuse. .pioids tricks the mind it starts out in mom and dad's medicine cabinet, that little bottle of pills, it has the family doctor and the pharmacy. a tricks you into thinking it was there to help so if you just took a piece of it this one time it will not be harmful. which is not the case. military spouse and planet, we have done a good job in the public and private sectors making sure that our veterans have opportunities and skills opportunities when they come back from being overseas or when they are no longer active military. we are trying to extend that reach to our active military spouses who are 92% female and many are acting like single moms. they have the responsibility being single moms while he is overseas. topping out military spouses to access employment, they face needing to be reassigned, to have reassignments and move every two or three years. it is difficult to find employment. it is ther them licensing and credentialing that gets in the way so we have five or six licensing compacts between the state. if you are a licensed attorney or nurse or cosmetologist in missouri, then you get , whyigned to camp lejeune do have to pay that money and wait to get relicensed if you are in good standing and you have been working question mark we try to connect them with opportunities and that regard. and break down the barriers. that commitment is a family commitment. the spouses incredibly patriotic, is very resilient and proving that he or she can multitask and a great decision and soas someone copes economythem up with the or small business administration, we are working provide those opportunities. thank you for going into some issues quickly. people should know what we are working on. about this,asking ask how you can help because we are doing this for this nation. epidemic, attorney general sessions said it is the worst in our nation's history and it is. >> who is to blame? >> there is a spectrum of actors to blame and that means there is a spectrum of us possible actors that can help. there is over prescribing by the medical community and you have the major pharmacies and pharmaceuticals are all too happy to fill those prescriptions. majorve our pharmaceutical companies, the major chain drugstores and trinity pharmacists say we are not going to give you 30 days supplies. we have had republican governors place -- places like new jersey to go from that 30 day to three or five or seven days. pain is the fifth indicator. we're having health care by emoji. unless you tell your doctor that you are the smiley face when you are leaving we have to make sure you never feel pain. in a highly educated wealthy country there is the idea that no one should feel pain. why not? why not take a couple of extra aspirin and not have the bottles of pills in your cabinet. i want to make clear we're not talking about chronic pain sufferers and their millions who suffer. we are talking about the sports industry, dental procedures, the surgery, temporal pain, temporary and sudden pain relief. what we're finding out is that pain management need not mean pain medicine. i took a trip not so long ago with governor christie and patrick kennedy who has been a great advocate about mental health. in this country. we took a trip out to the vas inveland -- to the va cleveland. we have to blame also the porous border. quoted a statistic about drug demand. they are taking on major policy issues together and i hope the country memorized every word. they are calling traction all of us to get involved. the president made clear that there is drug demand and drug supply. he said 90% of the heroin in this country is coming from the southern border. we know we have a fentanyl, , we have aword problem in this country. the baltimore sun ran an article that fentanyl is a bigger killer than homicides in the city of baltimore. i talked to governors who tell us they cannot keep up with the fentanyl explosion in their states. fentanyl is being laced into the drug 50 times the power -- potency of morphine and heroin. young adults are working out for two or three hours a day, they will not put a french fry in their mouth but they buy a pill for five dollars and they are dead the next day. do not take the pill. dayslikely than not these from these campuses the pill is laced with fentanyl which is a major killer. that is coming in from china the best we can tell to all of our sources. it is being manufactured there and brought into the country through the mail, through our ports, airports, we need reinforcements, we need brave andand women at our border dea agents to have the tools they need to be able to intercept a lot of this fentanyl and make sure it is not destroying our communities because it is. inyou compared growing up new jersey as golden girls meets jersey. what was it like, what was your upbringing? >> it was the gift that keeps on giving. i was raised by four italian catholic women. and twond her mother other sisters raised me. my uncle through marriage gave me a great example of a successful, healthy marriage. to grow up in a house of adult women that means i did very little for myself. but it means i was taught to be a giver, not a taker. and we had picture up -- pictures up of the last supper. i cannot recall a lyrical conversation. it was not until i was assigned -- theycal high school were assigned to cover two presidential conventions, i was going into my senior year in high school. president reagan president reagan visited my high meool, and i got to 10et him. the democrats went first. alsoesswoman ferraro, italian and catholic. i thought that was amazing, a woman as vice president. then i turned to the republican convention next week, and heard ronald reagan's speech. here is a man four times my age, different coast, different gender, but he spoke in a way that was optimistic and uplifting. he spoke about some very dark issues like the soviet union, and the growing threat of communism. i felt that he appealed to me in the way that the other party did not. i gave fair and full coverage before. there wasn't a twitter then. i was hooked then on republican politics. really struck, i had a relationship with my i see that is- the gift that keeps on giving. there is something to that abilitynd love and the .o pass on family legacy i think the humility from that greatest generation certainly, where people gave and take, where they looked at it as a country of immigrants, that the united states of america is a place of promise and opportunity and safety, and a place where women have rights. i waseciate the fact that able to leave that small modest household in new jersey, pursue my dreams. my parents did not go to college, let alone law school, entrepreneur, an counselor to the i was president certainly. young girls run up to me all the time. the positiont open of first female president of the united states. most people won't pursue a career in politics. i do live in a country where am very happy for my three daughters. live in a great country where girls do have rights. i think it is a wonderful time to be a woman, to be a young girl in this country. as someone who tried to start the conversation over a year ago as campaign manager on sexual misconduct, i am glad people are jumping in later in the game. i don't think anyone really wanted to hear my voice because of the campaign i was managing, but good. that is great. host: this may be obvious, but why mary tyler moore as a role model? ms. conway: i was not say role model. my mother looked at that genre of television in the 1970's, and she had received the first issue magazine, which i defined -- at the time she was divorced, which i find it ironic. raising two daughters on her own. mary tyler moore, a career woman who did not get have to get married. showedsing whole -- i think it women being something other than a wife and mother in the household. i think it showed another dimension. i grew up liking carol burnett and lucille ball. you had to sit down and watch it. you did not have life on demand. my role models are the women who raised me. they will always be. i think in part because they are not household names. they never saw celebrity. the richness and graciousness of my mother and 3 aunts -- they never sought fame or glory or power, or even wealth. their legacies are the people that have raised and the they have brought to the family named. family had to grow up very quickly. they can all read, and they can read what is written about their mother. it will not be easy for them, but that is a good lesson too, that just because somebody says something does not make it true. there are a lot of miserable people in the world who feel better attacking a total stranger for how she looks or where she works. it teaches my children that their catholicism, they must pray for those that are in such a dark place that they would d against a person whose greatest sin is trying to do well from the person. host:whose greatest sin does thr any responsibility for this discourse? ms. conway: we all their responsibility. for me to give a more fair answer -- i am just shocked. dignify the i won't venom by doing that, but what is said about this president for ratings, for ad revenues,f or them to try to navigate their own way through the donald trump presidency, instead of taking ae time to learn and write thoughtful intelligent article or give a well reasoned appearance on tv. attack,t easier to attack, attack. i think that is regrettable. most of the president's twitter feed is about policy. posts areat he things from his foreign trips,ps things he takes to north dakota talking about tax cuts, in pennsylvania talking about manufacturing reform. that is not scintillating enough. that is not -- that is light, not heat. so it does not get as much coverage. , we are a culture that looks the other -- that is, not heat. so it does not get as, we are ae that looks the other way. murderers going free. someone deported five times. why was her here? why was he on the loose? why does he get to walk away scott free, when the 32-year-old innocent women whose last words were, help me dad -- people have to ask themselves why. that happened long before donald trump occupied 1600 pennsylvania avenue. host: let me conclude with a couple personal notes. is your codename blueberry? ms. conway: that has been written about. i was told to pick something with the letter b, so i picked blueberry because it has been a part of my life. i grew up on a blueberry farm for the ages of 12 to 20. there inegal to work the 1970's and 1980's. i learned a lot about leadership and teamwork and a honesty's work for an honest day's wage. i no longer have secret service protection. i find that men and women network and the secret service are unbelievably brave and humble, amazing public servants. i am also happy that my family has a little bit more freedom and privacy, and that they threat level is reducing. i would have to say yes, that is true, blueberry. host: four kids. how do you juggle it all? ms. conway: the children come first, the house structure comes first. by the time i get to the white house by 7:30 in the morning, there has already been cheerful chaos hours on end. more, butd to sleep it is the greatest privilege in , andfe to be their mother it comes first. i volunteer for something, and to make sure i am not disappointingly four -- disappointing the four people that matter to me in this world. children in this world want us to be fully present. i won't trick myself into saying, here i am in the house, and can go watch this tv they can watch that tv. the technology is put away. i tried to do one-on-one time with them. onlyd my husband for children -- it is a totally different than what we are accustomed to. i teach them the golden rule. be the them to try ot bigger person and show mercy, know they are imperfect children being raised by imperfect parents. that they are very privileged, they have access that many adults and children in this country lack. we try to raise them with a certain conscientiousness of the world. it is easier for them to see hypocrisy and narrowmindedness also. host: have you given thought as to how long he will stay in the session? -- in this position? ms. conway: i have not given thought to leaving. i will be here six months, one year -- public service is a noble calling. i have said from day one that the thing that would push me out earlier than i would want to leave is the responsibility of my family. i have relatives that are ailing, and children of ages that are very reliant on me. from the inside or outside, i will continue to fight for this president and vice president's agenda, because i believe in a free market to democracy and doing my small part at this time to ensure thet nation's security, prosperity, transparency, accountability. i grew up around forgotten men and women. i saw a lot of their faces at rallies. i see them run up to me at airports where i am, just in everyday life. i feel so privileged to be part of them. once you are part of that, you are always a part of that. bycan do well by them continuing to be vigilant. i can see through a number of the major initiatives. i think my best use of these issues, the most important for my family -- i want to repeat what i said almost a year ago. a liberal commentator said -- i said, leave him alone. he said, i don't know how she will have this big job in the white house and raise four kids, and he was excoriated immediately. nobody ever asks the guys, what are you going to do with your golf game and mistress? 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