Allison, scott jennings, congressman ro khanna, scott taylor, and kara swisher with 27 days it's to go americans with different perspectives aren't talking to each other. But here they do i'm abby phillip in new york. Let's go right to what america is talking about. Which candidate can make your life better, or kamala harris is in the middle of a media tour and today she got a question that speaks to what's on your mind, the direction of the country, and what it's headed for, and how it might look different if she had led the country through the last four years and not joe biden, while her answers singled out, that she was a little surprised by the question, just listen would you have done something differently than president biden during the past four years there has done a thing that comes to mind in terms of and i've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact. Listen, i plan on having a republican in my cabinet. You got it less difference between joe biden and me. Will that will be one of the differences. I'm going to have a republican in my cabinet because i don't i don't feel burdened by letting pride get in the way of a good idea all right, we're here at the table. It have an answer can and ready to go for that question, which is kind of at the core of what voters are asking themselves, who is really the candidate who is going to give them change here? yeah, scott, you're like evidence. You know, i mean, i would've, said actually one of the things that i was doing different is what i'm talking about here today on this show. And it's introducing that the care economy is going to be he's center in my campaign because we have a country who is burdened by having to care for our parents that we were just talking about because there are things that are different. But here's the thing that, that answer shows me is that kamala harris is a loyal person to her boss and she's not going to use an interview to throw him under the bus for clickbait i think it has to be throwing under the bus. I mean, but i mean, it is a legitimate question for voters like, what is the next four years is going to look like? that is different than the last four years, but she is running on the slogan of a new way forward. And she said today, we're going to stay on the same path, which is i think everyone would admit not a popular path. I mean, biden has put some handcuffs on her. I mean, he has gone out last week and said she helped me pass every law. She was part of every decision. He's making it difficult for her to get any separation and then she has also in the last few days said biden has totally with it totally couch for his mental acuity. And today says, yeah, i can't really think of anything that i would have done differently. This must be very confusing for american voters who must be thinking, then why are you running? why isn't he running if he's up to it and you wouldn't change anything, then why is joe biden not in this race right now, i thought about who goes on the view and gets outsmarted by the way. I mean, this was a total disaster for her if she had had a canned answer, you'd have said all she has. I would have say good job, separate yourself. It'd be the last political sham that in several different times. But in this case, we just was giving the answer shoot off the top of her head and it's fine to do that. At one time. You want her to be sort unscripted and other times he wanted to be scripted or shouldn't be scripted. I think she just said she's going to be loyal this guy. Think you're absolutely right. She cannot especially as a woman throw him under the bus, she needs to look oil and she has been loyal to him and i don't think people would find that upsetting if they if she threw him under the bus to whatever she does. I hear what you're saying, scott and i think logically yes. It seems that it would be difficult for her separate herself from biden, but but look at the new york times sienna poll asked which candidate represents change at 46%, say harris 44% say trump, which candidate represent is a strong leader, 45 per say, presents a harris 48% say trump something in there, tells me that voters are they actually do think that she's going to be different from biden on one of the most important issues of our time, abortion rights, reproductive rights. She is different she's clearer, she's when visited a reproductive health clinic. She's more passionate. She doesn't have to say it. It's obvious this is why the race is neck and neck. Women are supporting or much more than they supported. Joe biden and i think you know, whether she flubbed an answer or not. They're loyal the point is, everyone knows that she's clear moral voice on an issue that really matters. So one of the other interesting things about this press tour that she's doing is that we are seeing a different side of her. I mean, she's going to places like howard stern to the view to call her daddy here is that again yeah. I mean, that's neither stop. This is one of the big guess it shows it, you know, much. I wish it was but here's the thing. Like it is huge and i think most people do not recognize his, including on the all the cable stations like haha. This is an important show. This is the howard stern of women. If you want to make, you have to make sure that hour. Now he returns pretty good. He sees for a long time, he said an amazing career in that regard. But this is an important venue for her to be on and i can't underscore. I was talking to a group of people and some people were joking about every young person. I said, if you don't understand this, all the young people are like, thank you. Like you have to understand how important absolutely. I mean, let me just play real quite before you jump in. This is her at talking to 60 minutes. This traditional media, but she's talking about the gun that she owned that a lot of republicans, a question that there's a real where is it? here's her talking about it? what kind of guns you own and when and why did you get it? i have a glock and i've had it for quite some time and look at my background in law enforcement and so there you go have you ever fired it? yes of course at a shooting range yes, of course, i have all right so can. We lay this to rest? are you satisfied that she owns a gun that she doesn't matter to me, i guess let me just talk about briefly about a couple things that we just said like, i don't want her to have can answers. I don't want to i want her to be authentic and that's it. That's another case right there. Just like i own a glock you know. Well, and i've had it for quite some time. Quite some time ago she also supported legislation that would have banned that glock and would have confiscated inside city limits that glock so i just want it in washington or in california and getting california county, california. So and san francisco specifically. So i just find her to be very inauthentic and i think a lot of folks too as well. So i think it's important for her to go on those mediums of nontraditional media just like president trump has many, many times in many podcast, i think it's extremely important i want her to, i wanted to do as much media as possible because i believe the more that people see her, the more they see that in authenticity and the more they dislike her do you think that she should have done more media earlier? i mean, i don't want to go too deep into this conversation, but i mean the big picture of all of this, and i'll play another clip in a moment. But the big picture of all of this, do you think that she is doing just fine and why not see this part of her a month ago? who knows, if you should? i like mainstream media wants to be like she should have done it. We've ever seen a campaign like this before, so people who act like they know exactly what's happening here they also have a bridge to sell you in brooklyn. Okay so i just think that we will know on november 6 or seventh or eighth or ninth whenever it's called, whether or not she should have done more media. I think the question is at the end of the campaign, when you look at the hours of interviews interviews, not fox news, not like, you interviews that kamala harris has done. And donald trump has done, i bet you, they almost average out to be the same. And i think the way we cover it is different because we cover donald trump and kamala harris differently. Whether we like it or not, that's the case. I mean, i hear people see we will see we'll go back and we also should do per capita. How long they, but she really has not done even with this blitz. Yes, she really stream media. They're very active on social media. There everything has changed and mainstream media doesn't seem to get that still, i don't know, 20 years into the internet age, people consume things much different currently than they used to. And you have to just respond to that. And in her case, she's doing what she wants to do. That's why the new york times is squawking because they haven't gotten the interview, but nature is going to she's only had the call me daddy and howard stern and she had all the smoke and then all the smoke. Matt barnes and stephen jackson were on the breakfast club today talking about which. But i think just like it's a strategy, not an either or thing. I mean, what you got to acknowledge that just because she has the ability to do friendly interviews, doesn't mean that that's the only thing that she should do. I think it's totally fine for her to do. It. It's just that it's also fine for her to do quote, unquote mainstream media because there he is donald trump doing, i guess is mostly, i mean, i think that's a totally fair questions i think even some of the friendly, nontraditional interviews have not turned out that well, but very contact with the mainstream media i mean, the 60 minutes interview on issue after issue, i think did not really help her campaign. The immigration answers did not help her campaign, denying answering the question three times about whether they made the right decisions on the immigration changes that lead the flood of people into the country. So i think the reason they're shying away from it is because often her rhetoric doesn't survive contact with the mainstream media. It's more app to survive contact when you go on the view usually but, but it's a tough thing even then, even then it was let me say one quick thing just because i think this is actually an important shift in messaging. This is her on howard stern, i taking a page leslie out of donald trump's book i do believe that this is an election that is about strength versus weakness. Yeah. And weakness as projected by someone who puts himself in front of the american people and does not have the strength to stand in defense of their needs, their dreams, their desires but it sounds like it's one that i couldn't very well be effective, especially since trump is trying to run as these strong candidate i mean, he himself has said, like a strong man. Thank you. Showed that also in the debate where she went toe to toe with donald trump and came out stronger. And that was against a former president. I think that's where she came off as presidential, but my view is it's not as important for her to do as much mainstream media. I think she's done fine. I think she needs to go on factory floors whereas i think she needs to go on town halls. I think she needs to go in the rural communities and the place where i've actually seen her grown tremendously is her connection with voters as on a retail level, i've seen her when she was a district attorney in san francisco and you look at her now there is a image of her connecting with a young girl and how she connected definitely listen to put her out there with voters. They're the ones who are going to decide ceos aren't doing these anymore either. Everybody is going that directly to people now as i used to do lots of ceos interviewed, it's very hard to get them now, mark zuckerberg goes to friendly venues were they say, oh, wouldn't large head you have how did you think of that or whatever? it's a change in the whole media ecosystem because they have their own direct way. And i think a lot of media has to think about, but i think, you know, you mentioned her change in rhetoric where she's trying to, okay. Now, now on the strong person, donald trump is the weak person. Just speaking as a dude, right? a country guy i'm just telling you right now. I mean, i talked to lots of guys of a bro so when you when you talk to people, no one's looking at her and saying this is the strong leader that plays out in the data. That in the del conversation it's not a sexist thing to say. I wouldn't even dismiss it. I think that that is worth unpacking. They is 100% and it is a challenge for her, but it may not be for the reason that you're saying everyone stick around for us coming up next donning revelations from bob woodward's new book, including trump's secret calls to vladimir putin, his secret covid deliveries to putin. And what biden really thinks of america's allies and adversaries stay with us dragging ramo kitten. 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And with favor so scott taylor, is it fair to ask what was he doing on these calls when why so many of them it's fair to ask, of course, if there if it's true, i don't know if it's true or no, it's his reporting it's the same thing with john kerry when he was meeting with the iranian officials after, after he was out of office, it's fair to ask what we know, what's he talking about and i guess it's fair to ask for sure. Yeah. I mean, i will say that trump hold that illegal when kerry did it, he said it was okay. And obviously the trump campaign has put out a statement that it was false. So i'm not sure for sure not but i will say that mrs. Harris was sent over to stop the war and then shortly after they are putin invaded as he did under obama and biden. So my opinion that the next president and hopefully will be donald trump has the ability to, to speak to putin. And i know that's a dirty word and a lot of circles which is sort of ridiculous because you need to be speaking to your enemy, of course. And i think i think that donald trump, as opposed to harris, has the ability to potentially stop world war iii and that's what i'm betting. Well, first of all, she was over there to warn zelenskyy vowed but the upcoming invasion, so that's oddly inaccurate she was over there to talk to were there for a show of force to determine also, while she was there, didn't that they were going to invade and they had intelligence, including in the woodward book about this. The second thing is he's a private citizen. You shouldn't be talking to admire putin. That's really pretty much basic stuff. He shouldn't be meeting with other world leaders. It's not, he's not been we have a government that doesn't all the time. I understand that, but this is a unique situation leaders all the time but the same guy, an adversary that's the question here is she sheila adversary like, well, i'm asking you an adversary like vladimir putin. Does that not change the calculus? yeah, i don't love the optics of him talking to putin. Just be honest, because the way in the middle of a war, there's like a war going on, but it's not surprising to me that a former us president republican or democrat would have conversations with world leaders peters, that they had some relationship with. I know the book also sort of made a big deal out of this idea that he sent these like covid tests or whatever to putin. But i've been, i've been wondering the machine. I've been wondering though today, like what is more concerning? these conversations and these covid machines or the fact that we've been sending billions to the iranians who are now funding terrorism and attacking our biggest ally. And kamala harris goes on tv and says, this is our biggest geopolitical foe, which it's not but the relationship between biden and obama and harris and the iranians to me is far more. I just felt glad you're talking about the iran nuclear deal and you're talking about the unfreezing of assets that's not the same thing as obama sending billions of dollars to iran. Well, the congressman has but