Transcripts For CNN TV on the Edge Moments That Shaped Our C

Transcripts For CNN TV on the Edge Moments That Shaped Our Culture 20241008

Why do i have to be so ashamed . I mean, why cant i just see the truth . I mean, be who i am. Im 35yearsold. Im so afraid to tell people. I mean, just susan im gay 40 Million people watched today. Theres nothing like it. Right . Except maybe the super bowl you talking about straight writers writing a coming out was like this is so cool. And yet this is going to kill this show. Its going to be over. Yes. Like i thought this could be the end of our Careers Elon caught her entire career at stake she could have lost everything. We do not want the gay and lesbian lifestyle paraded in the Living Rooms of americans homes. You would think gay people did not exist. They very rarely showed up on tv. I remember as a young gay kid, being so hungry to see even negative portrayals because it meant that there were other People Like Us and all copulating incurred the wrath of god. We import the most hated part of america somebody die. He was owens coming out episode suddenly tends to the world. Hey, its okay to be gay you keyed up the explosion of characters that follow someone needed to just blow the whole thing open and she did television was king. Were going and died by the Tv Guide if people had these must watch Tv Shows and a lot of times they were sitcoms. There was a standup to Tv Sitcom Pipeline 15 years, i got three kids, so i breathe well in captivity and loved rosanne. Are you ever sorry, we got married every second of my life are here men, stuff people like tim allen, a mans man, the guy with harry chez. Oh my folks moved to florida this past year. That didnt really want to move to florida, but they are in their 60s and thats the law. There is of course, jerry seinfeld, if anything wrong with it no, no, of course not peoples personal sexual preferences or no and of course, Elon Degenerate always asked me, well, youre funny, is it as a child and no, i was an accountant, but she was so clever and unique he pretty much said, listen, elon having sex is kind of like riding a bicycle. You know what i mean . I know its been a while, but i dont ever remember peddling and she had a very specific cadence. Have you had a massage did they make you put them with prime on had this very offbeat kind of humor nappi, seem like a great crowd but she never know she was so delightful and so likable, so relatable. The girl next door she hadnt huge Stand Up Fan Base would you welcome ellen degeneracy, Eleni Breakout was when she appeared on Johnny Carson high god, zaillian Felon D. Generous the generous whats so funny know i never thought that it does sound like that done that really was i think a turning point. And in elons career, come with me. Eleni generous Behind The Scenes on my tv show, these friends of Mine Standup Comedy has beamed abroad. A Network Sitcom Vehicle the difference this time is the show is an Out Of The Box Grand Slam hit what does the Title Mean . What is it about the show . Bunch of friends hanging out their friends of mine yeah. Listen, its yellen what do you know we just tried to point out the absurdities of normal everyday life. Im not that out of it. Whos smarter, Beavis Or Butthead which is what i did in my standup. Just talk about everyday Thing Seinfeld mold. Im sure it was pitch like seinfeld with a woman seinfeld with a woman. We were compared to seinfeld in the beginning when people are trying to hide their feelings hes their voices go up you get a haircut. Like it then friends came along than we were compared to friends since we know what happened, were gonna be conscious to avoid those questions and she wont be able to tell us any tire supportive Friends Dynamic has completely thrown out of whack it was always focused on my character Ellen Morgan own, was clearly the center of the Show Members and it was focusing more and more on me. It felt like we werent even watching the character felt like we were watching ellen. You were funny kid i was funny. I mean, i wasnt a Class Clown and most of the time they thought it was just weird. I never fit in because i was very dry and very subtle as a kid, i didnt do kid type stuff. You have a lot of dates . Yeah, i did. I had different boyfriends every week. I just i never i told my mother i didnt think i would ever find anybody that you know, im a jew eventually find someone im single like it that way. Yeah, im happy South Royalty in vermont. Hello. Hi, Larry Ellison was out to her friends but the public didnt know there was just no coming out for someone who wanted to hit the Big Time it was a different time. Both on television and off television. So how does the Datsun Gay yet there was no political correctness back in the 1990s in terms of the gay community at all, we saw the im but Big Old died Bumper Sticker such abuse of everyday language. We just roll off of peoples tongues because we made being gay a joke. The same people that would put whole motion and military gay rights were not in their infancy. But were still kind of under the radar no federal law protects lesbian and gay people from discrimination. You have to remember, you can still be fired just for being gay. The fact is a 33 and of gays and lesbians have suffered discrimination on the job if you couldnt get married the socalled defense of Marriage Act defines marriage as a union between one man and one woman. And even president clinton favors and dont ask, dont tell was the law of the land. Hes conserve in the military only if they keep their Sexual Orientation private or they can prove they are celebrate. I think its the Jim Crow Laws Of The 90s it institutionalizes prejudice in 1993 as president clinton was beginning his first term, i was the first openly gay white House Staffer up until that zero point. I was always a little worried that my Sexual Orientation might prevent me from serving certainly at the highest levels in government. Because in a professional context, No One was out from a very early age. Youre conditioned by Society Everything is a Man And Woman and youre always taught that thats what is normal, that, that could definitely come between me and my calvins. Youre taught to kind of hide who you are eleni Guy Like is here elon more oregon was essentially a Streak Character for years i knew it was good in the third season, we were told no episodes about elon we dont want to say any guys, nothing as the show develops, well Elon Get A Guide or any kind of Love Thing happen. I just i just dont think that thats the kind of show i want to do. So you know, its tough whenever you have a show. Im elon where the Characters Name is the name of the show other. Why didnt you just view it as an actress and im funny and so ill play a heterosexual that fictional character of Ellen Morgan represents elam generous i just i just didnt want to play that. I wanted to play what i did in my Stand Up for all those years is just somebody who could enjoy life and make fun of situations and not be so obsessed with finding the right guy and dating. It just wasnt me that was really, really hard to write to. It was tedious to say the least. I mean, lets face it, how many edge she plots can you have around you know, a really cute woman running a bookstore. Theres not a lot you can do with that. It grows stale very quickly. You couldnt build an audience with just that. This had been an ongoing issue on season four. Was head of the studio at the Walt Disney Company do my job to approve anything that happened on that show creatively and financially, i think its an apocryphal story. Dean valentine, and number of executives are in michaelides Years Office and hes saying i love the yellen show, i love ellen. I dont understand why it isnt more popular. Lets get her boyfriend. And someone in their said, shes gay and shes saying she doesnt want to date anymore. And he said then lets get her a Girlfriend And Michael lovitz said, dont even think about it and my guys are says will then get her puppy. Now thats the story that i heard. I heard this story and i said, lets call it the Puppy Episode because we had to do a code, we had to do a code are you saying what i think youre trying to say . What do you think im trying to say i cant even Say The Word why cant i Say The Word . I mean, why cant i just say decorate it . Have ran have blue. Thats a really tough call for you. Thats John King from cnn. Lets look at the data. Your county leaned read, i fit 15 points in the last president ial election however, looking at the latest polling, youre going to need a lot of those purple sprinkles how this guy really knows this stuff . 5 a cupcake, you know, the average cost of a cupcake around hears 3. No comment. Why did we choose safely who were always working on a project while loading up our suv one extra push and for so we schedule that safe flight. Com. We were able to track our technician and no exactly when he arrived we could keep working safe. Flight came to us. I am kendrick with the replacement. 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You know, i think she even claimed a Blast Or Something because i need to make announcement. We all like gathered around and shes i think this year im gonna become an out i want the character to come out on the show. Ill just show life. And in life, right . Well, we were out on the patio like, oh, its really nice out here. Its too crowded in the house, are not less, im tracy comes as as elie just said, shes coming out great. I missed that the star of the Show Kind of americas sweetheart, no way probably a great, many people didnt know was gay was going to come out yeah. And she was so excited i was in therapy at the time to be 37yearsold and feeling this sense of shame and that nobody would like me if they found out that i was gay. Out and it just made sense for the character to come out at the same time when we had to take that long walk through dizzy to tell the studio that it was like the Baton Death March because elon was just stoic . Yes more determined that . Yes, she was committed and she just she went for it and i have to say dean valentine, and he was great. He was rate. Yeah. I wasnt i didnt Say Yes in that meeting because theres there was very careful about the image that a projected for the World And Anything thats going to affect a company and its shareholders i mean, i was a little bit naive i think about where america was on its dialogue with homosexuality. But i just felt very, very confident that the company would be supportive and that the show needed. How did the executives react . Disney abc, they were all very supportive but this is the disney company. They had to have a reservation or two i think that they probably did. And im in a business that you know, im the commodity im the product and thats what i kept telling Disney And Abc maybe theyll boycott you for a week or whatever it may maybe theyll, but you can go on and do another show. This is my life. I am taking the biggest risk here and im willing to take the risk because thats how much it means to me. I remember walking back an elon was crying and she was so relieved. You know, was this your first exact Producer Job oh, my god. Yes. Me too. So i felt that its going to maybe ruin your career exactly. That. Ill never do this again. We are on the same page my feeling was it was the place to be yeah. I was just excited by it because i thought like, oh man, theres stories to tell we are so excited to have something that really right we had to go back to the Drawing Board we marked the entire season leading up to the coming out of the south we were riding towards something i feel pretty i feel pretty and woody and hey she wanted everybody stories, anybody who was gay, an out we took little bits and pieces and we sort of mashed it. Alan this could be you walking up to your new home i mean, we were really having some fun here is like a puppet show. Your life heres your husband Coming Home from work. Oh, i think they felt its in the wrong show we wanted the teases to make the audience look every Week And Wonder if we were going in the direction that it seem we were going house in the closet. I think with every one of those little tease it became a little less frightening yeah. Id like to talk to you about the role of men in your life. Yes, its funny and its pew but it was also frustrating because we were waiting. I mean, we wanted this to happen he was built up. You teased you how you seem to be having a lot of froun with it, et cetera. What was the point . Well, the teasing was not supposed to go on that long shooter youre gay elon it was a disney stockholders meeting going on and they wanted to make sure the stock didnt go down. So we had to wait. Nobody wont say that, but i know that thats what the case was. Robert iger presence. We never got the okay. It just kept getting pushed back and pushed back and pushed back. And the story leaked out way in advance the Ellen Morgan character on the sitcom, ellen may reveal herself to be a lesbian later this season, as we know it there was just a rumors that elon might come out and suddenly everywhere you looked, there was elon news, lots aromas in the press and whats going to happen this season. We do find out some the character is lebanese media firestorm. It just blew up and we were talking about adding a character to the show and his name was going to be less bn. I mean, elon was just having a blast earth. Theres a rumor going around when the speculation about

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